"Halo 4: I Get a Woman!" - Sgt. Mjr. A.J. Johnson, RIP

[Kornman00]

Also, Thorne as I recall lost his family with the attack on New Phoenix. The AI had memories of the attack along with the suck-u-up-otron. He's still very much human, and probably wanting to know wtf, more than your average joe, is going on and how this all relates to the attack that killed his family.

Also, 343i should stream subtitles if your setting for "subtitles" is set to on. Well, assuming the game didn't fucking revert it to automatic, let it seems to randomly do (recall Reach doing this as well...not sure about H3).

[DarkHalo003]

Well it at least proves even more so how the Spartan IVs are barely Spartans at all and how the Spartan IIs weren't just so because of their armor. Spartan IVs make a lot of human errors and defect to emotions/bias too quickly. Spartan IIs would never do that and follow protocol to the letter. This is Spartan Ops for a reason. MC's story follows what we know as a legit Spartan, while Spartan Ops' story focuses on humanity's attempt at creating more Spartans through volunteered, seasoned Marines that are not clearly Spartans, but have all of the equipment they would.

Speaking of Spartans, what ever happened to Spartan Gray Team and the rest of Blue Team?

[=sw=warlord]

Also, who here hopes that Palmer's obsession with running around sans-helmet will land her in the same boat as Kat, only messier?
I'm hoping a promethean knight gets her.

[ODX]

Also, 343i should stream subtitles if your setting for "subtitles" is set to on. Well, assuming the game didn't fucking revert it to automatic, let it seems to randomly do (recall Reach doing this as well...not sure about H3).The video for each episode is actually streamed, so they can't really enable subtitles unless they re-rendered the video or went back in and edited in some. Then did a simple code to see if you have subtitles on so it loads that video instead of the non-subtitle one.

Too much work for 343i.

[Arteen]

Also, 343i should stream subtitles if your setting for "subtitles" is set to on. Well, assuming the game didn't fucking revert it to automatic, let it seems to randomly do (recall Reach doing this as well...not sure about H3).
It's been a problem since Halo 3 at least. One would think this is an easy bug to fix.

[Tnnaas]

Hey guys, remember beating this game? Cortana helped us kick the Didact's ass, right? Yeah, here's a bit of speculation:

Let's say there's a chance that Cortana climbed inside the Didact's suit while trying to restrain him. He falls into slipstream space and pops out on the set of Halo 5. Now let's assume both he and Cortana survived. Sounds a tad familiar, huh? It's like that Gravemind sequence all over again.

[Patrickssj6]

ahtZayhxb5U

[DarkHalo003]

My reaction:
t6FUR_nhGX8

[Kornman00]

So TU2 includes a 27.4MB patch to mainmenu.map

No, don't consider this a suggestion they can -add- new armor and such, but it does give hope still for proper/finished UI for campaign/FF scoring or such, if it isn't already there.

[Arteen]

The next time you log into Halo 4, you will be prompted to download a title update. This particular title update tackles actual game and gameplay issues, not sandbox tweaks and balances. We have another TU in the works and will continue working on the timing and content of the next one. For now, here is a change list of what was included in today's title update.
• Implemented general stability improvements
• Fixed glitch where quickly reloading after firing the Boltshot resulted in an instant reload
• Fixed glitch where sprinting prior to activating the Hardlight Shield allowed players to move faster
• Fixed glitch were players could throw a grenade and then immediately sprint afterwards to perform a high velocity grenade
• Fixed glitch where Mantis could fire more rockets without reloading if the machine gun was fired partway through unleashing the charged missile barrage
• Fixed issue where DLC was unavailable for other profiles on the same console
• Fixed issue where DLC disappeared after console reboot
• Fixed issue where players could not unlock Campaign completion achievements when using a rally point other than Alpha for any mission to finish the Campaign
• Fixed issue where players were not given credit for completion of a Spartan Ops Episode Difficulty Challenge when completing it through Matchmaking
• Fixed issue where players with 99 or more Xbox LIVE friends could not get File recommendations
• Fixed issue where loadout configurations were lost if the game was booted and then powered off before passing the “Press START” screen
• Fixed issue where attempting to upload large films to the File Share under poor network conditions caused the upload to fail
• Improved time to load variants with separate profiles
• Fixed issue where moving a profile from one controller port to another after relaunching the game reset loadout settings
• Improved consistency of random ordnance navigation marker display
• Fixed performance issues when launching Halo Waypoint from Halo 4
Boo, no campaign scoring!

[Kornman00]

343i made a custom cutscene (I think they rendered it in the engine) for the VGA awards. Specifically, best character of 2012. It's about 14mins in: http://www.spike.com/netstorage/events/video-game-awards/live/

[TeeKup]

That was obnoxiously cheesy for John. VGA's or no.

[Kornman00]

Yeah

[Kornman00]

The SPOPs crap starts at 1hr43m

There are a few shots of future footage...including that dumb bitch Palmer...dual fucking wielding pistols. Fuck you 343i. Fucking trolls.

Also, I swear I saw something Scarab-y in the clip they showed

Anyway, S01 continues with "new missions and locations" Jan 21. Enjoy the wait you assholes!

[Kornman00]

The SPOPs bullshit doesn't start until 1hr43m

Palmer gets to dual wield pistols in one of the upcoming CGI vids. Cause it's not like she wasn't already a stupid bitch.

"New missions and locations" start Jan 21. Cause waiting for the same shit, different day is just so much fun.

also:
http://i.imgur.com/rlkcM.jpg

[Arteen]

I'm so looking forward to dual-wielding and dozens of unique, new maps for Spartan Ops!

EDIT: Seriously though, Spartan Ops is embarassingly pathetic!

[Pooky]

Firefight would have been better. :L

[Sanctus]

The SPOPs bullshit doesn't start until 1hr43m

Palmer gets to dual wield pistols in one of the upcoming CGI vids. Cause it's not like she wasn't already a stupid bitch.

"New missions and locations" start Jan 21. Cause waiting for the same shit, different day is just so much fun.

also:
http://i.imgur.com/rlkcM.jpg

PLEASE tell me she's at least wearing a helmet...

[Kornman00]

PLEASE tell me she's at least wearing a helmet...
Nope. 'Twas dual wielding without protection. Dirty whore

[Sanctus]

Wtf, 343?

[Kornman00]

I guess the womenz at 343i don't want people to forget that women can be in vidya games too...so with Cortana gone, they must always have the dumbest bitch to have ever graced Halo (yes, dumbed than H2/H3's Miranda) showing her face even though she's a goddamn spartan, let alone the commander of the SIVs

[Sanctus]

They aren't making their point with all of this, they're just making it stupid.

[Rosco]

I guess the womenz at 343i don't want people to forget that women can be in vidya games too...so with Cortana gone, they must always have the dumbest bitch to have ever graced Halo (yes, dumbed than H2/H3's Miranda) showing her face even though she's a goddamn spartan, let alone the commander of the SIVs

Well the only point they've made is that she points weapons at Dr Halsey like a total cunt

[DarkHalo003]

Well the only point they've made is that she points weapons at Dr Halsey like a total cunt
From women i know in the military, they say this behavior between women is almost standard: that women who see themselves as superior (Palmer) treat women they see as inferior (Halsey) like total shit. So basically, 343i is just being realistically and they're trying to make the lore/story realistic.

Regardless, people don't know Halo for realism, so this sort of overdramaticness is pretty extraneous.

[BobtheGreatII]

At this point I think Kat from Reach has more character than Palmer.

[=sw=warlord]

At this point I think Kat from Reach has more character than Palmer.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5466/turk645longnightofsolac.jpg

[BobtheGreatII]

Lol.

[Arteen]

At this point I think Kat from Reach has more character than Palmer.
Here's hoping she meets the same fate.

[Kornman00]

Hey, I bought the War Games pass and some new maps come out today, I think I'll go get them cause I paid for that shit yo and there's new MP challenges out

*loads Halo*

*no place to download Crimson without buying it individually*

*flips a fucking table*

*remembers the definition of insanity*

*commits self to an instition*

[ODX]

You have to do it through the in-game store or something, that's what it had said earlier and that's what I'm searching up and finding now.

[Kornman00]

As I explained in my HBO post (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1168415), which I made before posting here, it isn't showing up in the game's Marketplace pop-up.

Someone who replied to that same post linked to a Waypoint thread: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst162632_Crimson-Map-Solution.aspx


Xbox Support have said that the content will be released for FREE for those with limited edition copy of Halo 4 between 12 and 2pm UK time
As of this posting, it's almost 12pm in the UK.

Why the fuck I do I have to wait, while others without passes can get it immediately cause they didn't blow the money upfront on a pass?

[Tnnaas]

Why the fuck I do I have to wait, while others without passes can get it immediately cause they didn't blow the money upfront on a pass?Because Microsoft/343i. :mysterysolved:

[BobtheGreatII]

Downloading the crimson map pack now.

[Sanctus]

At this point I think Kat from Reach has more character than Palmer.

I think she's more of a character than Palmer even with that needle sticking out of her head.

[Kornman00]

So it sounds like some people are able to get the Crimson maps for free, even though they didn't buy a pass. If I were any of you, and didn't buy a pass, and didn't use that specialization code, I'd put it in now...sounds like it may be the reason why people are getting the yellow star next to their Marketplace...

[=sw=warlord]

So it sounds like some people are able to get the Crimson maps for free, even though they didn't buy a pass. If I were any of you, and didn't buy a pass, and didn't use that specialization code, I'd put it in now...sounds like it may be the reason why people are getting the yellow star next to their Marketplace...
Confirmed
+Rep.

[DarkHalo003]

Lol the whole Marketplace except for the Avatar Store is offline. Lol MS is assmad.

[Siliconmaster]

Man, thanks for the heads up, I managed to get Iffy and my other friend free map packs. And if the marketplace is indeed offline now, then it was just in time too. +rep for everyone! Also wow, rep, it's been a while lol.

[Ki11a_FTW]

damnit! please tell me im not to late.

[=sw=warlord]

damnit! please tell me im not to late.
Yep, you're way too late.

[Spartan094]

Why did I have to work during that time when it was free.

[PlasbianX]

I think I kinda ruined the game for myself.. Double XP Code + Fast Track + Spartan Ops matchmade mission lasting over 8 mins = 13K XP. I'm almost 100 and enough codes left to probably hit 130.

Meh.

[Siliconmaster]

Holy crap Plas. I haven't seen anyone above an 80 yet.

[Sanctus]

I have three bottle caps sitting at home waiting for me to upload the codes. Probably gonna end up finishing wetwork by the end of next week (exams this week for me) and start engineer.

[PlasbianX]

Also I just got the crimson pack for free. Wut

[BobtheGreatII]

Holy crap Plas. I haven't seen anyone above an 80 yet.

Masterz is 94 or 95.

[Kornman00]

I played against a 130 last week. I haven't been using DXP codes and I just hit 70 this morning. I didn't realize how much matchmade SPOPs paid out until this morning...got to 74 not too long after I started (and haven't finished the weekly SPOPs challenges yet either).

I haven't had a SPOPs game last longer than 15mins. You pretty much get 3x the amount of XP in SPOPs MM as you would if you played a good MP MM game and won. Now I know how I'll grind through the more boring parts of the lvl 8 & 9 of future specializations.

[Btcc22]

Halo 4 sounds more like an MMO, going by the posts here. Grinding, unlocks, levels, specialisations, monthly fees.

I remember when FPSs were about kicking butt and having a good time doing it, not experience points and unlocks. :smith:

[Zeph]

I thought Halo 4 was an MMO? People were saying Bungie's next game was supposed to be an MMO and all with the Activision stuff.

[DEElekgolo]

Green halo man blow up big things!!!

[Futzy]

not halo

[ODX]

I'm only just at Specializations (which are fucking stupid, I have to level up 10 more times just for a perk? Neat. Oh, and some random armor I don't give a fuck about), so I'm level 54 right now I believe.

I have seen 90s+ though on multiple occasions.

[Masterz1337]

I'm a 96 but I been eating dorritos and game fuel like a mofo.

[Ki11a_FTW]

I have a bunch of codes that i didnt use yet, but I haven't been playing lately, plus right now im running of XBL codes friends gave me -_-. Christmas I'm getting a new Game setup in my room, so i'll finally have an xbox that's mine with a nice rig and no shit wifi connection. Oh and I had to tell my father to buy me Halo Reach Legendary Edition:) I need a little flashback.

[Kornman00]

I'm a 96 but I been eating dorritos and game fuel like a mofo.
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[Arteen]

I played against a 130 last week. I haven't been using DXP codes and I just hit 70 this morning. I didn't realize how much matchmade SPOPs paid out until this morning...got to 74 not too long after I started (and haven't finished the weekly SPOPs challenges yet either).

I haven't had a SPOPs game last longer than 15mins. You pretty much get 3x the amount of XP in SPOPs MM as you would if you played a good MP MM game and won. Now I know how I'll grind through the more boring parts of the lvl 8 & 9 of future specializations.
6000xp a match is great. I wish I went for the XP boost specialization. I went for stalker, which I don't give a crap about anymore since I learned that specializations take up an existing perk slot, and aren't their own thing.

[=sw=warlord]

Welp. (https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst164628_-Free--Crimson-Map-Pack-access-being-revoked.aspx)

[Siliconmaster]

Well shit. That sucks.

[PlasbianX]

Wonder what happens to the achievements I've gotten so far thanks to the map pack...

[Ki11a_FTW]

Actually I have the points to download the map pack, I forgot I redeemed a point card I got years ago and didn't use it. Is it worth it?

[Kornman00]

Is it worth it?
I've had fun the few times I've played this week

[Siliconmaster]

Yeah, the maps are all medium-large sized, but they vary in play style. Also depends on the gametype you're playing with them, Shattered I think has some hills that are either really easy to defend or really hard to defend depending on which one you're in.

[Arteen]

http://blogs.halowaypoint.com/Headlines/post/2012/12/12/The-Halo-Bulletin-121212.aspx

File Share
Search for in-game File Share is still offline. Custom searches (by tag, most recommended, and most downloaded) are not enabled and will return “no files found”. We utilized something new for this particular Halo 4 feature, and it’s taking us longer than we initially anticipated getting it to a fully functional state. We recognize this is not an optimal situation, and we’ll continue working on it until it reaches shipping quality. In the meantime, here are the different actions you can take in your in-game Halo 4 File Share:• Upload files
• Download files
• Add to File Share
• Remove from File Share
• View someone else’s File Share (by Gamertag)
• Tag Files
• Recommend Files
• Receive File recommendations

This issue also affects web availability of the Halo 4 File Share. We expect both Search and web access to come online in early 2013, and we’ll provide another update in January. Again, we apologize for the delay, and we know this is painful for many of you. We’ll be brainstorming ways to celebrate both features’ release (contests, activities, etc.), so let us know via our forums if you have any ideas in that regard.
My goodness, 343i, it can't be this difficult to retain features from game to game. File sharing is borked, campaign scoring is missing, campaign theater is out, firefight is gone. I'm surprised this game even shipped with forge or theater mode at all.

[TeeKup]

I still CAN'T RENDER SHIT.

I have 25 clips from Reach I need to render for another Stacker video but I CAN'T because 343 bloody sucks. Also H4 rendering.

[Sanctus]

Addendum to Arteen's post: Even with forge shipped its still incomplete. It sucks now, and many of the pieces don't fit right, almost as if they didn't even test them.

And what a bunch of jackasses. "Pr-release sneak peek" my ass.

[Kornman00]

Anyone have the container file for the Crimson map pack?

[=sw=warlord]

Anyone have the container file for the Crimson map pack?
Yep, I do.
Also nabbed a copy of all the containers for unlockables I've got.

[Tnnaas]

Black screened during a Dominion match for 5 WHOLE MINUTES. When I was about to say fuck it, the game said selecting host with better quality. Thinking I could finally resume the game, I stayed in. Instead, I was removed from the match. The cherry on top? I got put on probation in matchmaking for quitting. :ugh:

[PlasbianX]

Anyone wanna run through legendary co-op?

[Kornman00]

I do, me, pick me

[ODX]

Just played Team Slayer Pro...

Holy fuck it's like the old Halo days, no armor ability bullshit and no loadouts (aside from picking DMR, BR, AR).

Why had I never tried this before? I've found my true love <3

[TeeKup]

I can't stand not having a motion tracker though.

[Zeph]

So, did people just get lazy and stop uploading to youtube, or did 343i lie about spartan ops coming out weekly?

[ODX]

Spartan Ops is on mid-season break right now and won't be back until late January.

[DarkHalo003]

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Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Tnnaas]

About a year old, but I'd imagine the Chief's life would mimic Steve's while off duty, minus the radio host part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKuN08Hgpgg

I don't know why, but "You got your yogurt." had me laughing too hard.

[Arteen]

Master Chief would be a great radio host.

"This is Master Chief here at one-one-seven-point-zero FM, bringing you the greatest hits this side of the galaxy. Rock me, when you need me."

n1cdcsNhSPY

[Tnnaas]

Woah, something cool and new just popped out of 343 Industries: The Halo 4 Infinity Challenge (http://halo4infinitychallenge.com/platform/web/registration/Welcome.html).

Top Prize for War Games is a UNSC themed Ford F-150 SVT Raptor and for Spartan Ops your player model gets a cameo in one of the future Halo titles.

While either of those would be amazing to achieve, I'm looking at the lower tier prizes and I'm still drooling.

Spartan Ops Finals

Spartan Ops - Tier 1




Prize


ARV


Finalist Ranking



Halo UNSC VANGUARD™ Personal Gaming Environment

$349.99


2-11



Halo Mega Bloks Forward Unto Dawn - Signature Series Set

$249.99


12-14



Halo Anniversary X Cruiser Board

$169.99


15-19



RVBX: Ten Years of Red vs. Blue 14-Disc Blu-ray Boxed Set

$179.95


20-29



Halo 4 Collector’s Edition Die Cast Warthog

$39.99


30-34



Halo 4: Fuzzy Dice Giclee on Paper

$89.99


35-44



Halo 4 Vigilance Giclee on Paper

$89.99


45-54



Halo 4 Series 1 Action Figure 5-Pack

$59.99


55-74



Halo 4 UNSC Eagle Dog Tags

$5.00


75-224






Spartan Ops - Tier 2




Prize


ARV


Finalist Ranking



HALO 4 WARHEAD™ 7.1 WIRELESS SURROUND HEADSET

$329.99


1-7



RVBX: Ten Years of Red vs. Blue 14-Disc DVD Boxed Set

$139.95


8-17



Halo Mega Bloks Countdown Set

$99.99


18-21



Halo Mega Bloks Rhino Set

$84.99


22-25



Halo Mega Bloks Seraph Set

$64.99


26-29



Halo Mega Bloks Wraith Set

$44.99


30-39



Halo 4 Series 1 Master Chief w/ Cryotube Deluxe Figure

$29.99


40-64



Awakening: The Art of Halo 4

$34.95


65-89



Halo 4 Die Cast Warthog

$14.99


90-115



Halo 4: Collector's Edition: Prima Official Game Guide

$39.99


116-125



Halo 4 Die Cast Mongoose

$7.99


126-151



Halo 4 POP! Master Chief Vinyl Figure

$9.99


152-178



Halo 4 POP! Cortana Vinyl Figure

$9.99


179-205



Halo 4 UNSC Eagle Dog Tags

$5.00


206-355



Halo Mega Bloks MAF (Micro Action Figure) Packs

$2.99


356-403






Spartan Ops - Tier 3




Prize


ARV


Finalist Ranking



Halo Mega Bloks Warthog Recon Set

$32.99


1-10



Halo MicrOps Small Box - High Ground Tower

$29.99


11-25



Halo MicrOps Small Box - High Ground Gate

$19.99


26-40



Halo Mega Bloks Orbital Banshee Set

$21.99


41-50



Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn DVD

$22.99


51-100



Halo 4 Series 1 Carded Action Figure

$12.99


101-300



Halo MicrOps Small Card

$9.99


301-360



Halo 4 Master Chief T-Shirt XL

$19.99


361-410



Halo 4 POP! Spartan Warrior Vinyl Figure

$9.99


411-464



Halo Mega Bloks Combat Units Set

$11.99


465-491



Halo 4 UNSC Eagle Dog Tags

$5.00


492-641






War Games Finals

War Games - Tier 1




Prize


ARV


Finalist Ranking



Halo UNSC VANGUARD™ Personal Gaming Environment

$349.99


2-11



Halo Mega Bloks Forward Unto Dawn - Signature Series Set

$249.99


12-14



Halo Anniversary X Cruiser Board

$169.99


15-19



RVBX: Ten Years of Red vs. Blue 14-Disc Blu-ray Boxed Set

$179.95


20-29



Halo 4 Collector’s Edition Die Cast Warthog

$39.99


30-34



Halo 4: Fuzzy Dice Giclee on Paper

$89.99


35-44



Halo 4 Vigilance Giclee on Paper

$89.99


45-54



Halo 4 Series 1 Action Figure 5-Pack

$59.99


55-74



Halo 4 UNSC Eagle Dog Tags

$5.00


75-224






War Games - Tier 2




Prize


ARV


Finalist Ranking



HALO 4 WARHEAD™ 7.1 WIRELESS SURROUND HEADSET

$329.99


1-7



RVBX: Ten Years of Red vs. Blue 14-Disc DVD Boxed Set

$139.95


8-17



Halo Mega Bloks Countdown Set

$99.99


18-21



Halo Mega Bloks Rhino Set

$84.99


22-25



Halo Mega Bloks Seraph Set

$64.99


26-29



Halo Mega Bloks Wraith Set

$44.99


30-39



Halo 4 Series 1 Master Chief w/ Cryotube Deluxe Figure

$29.99


40-64



Awakening: The Art of Halo 4

$34.95


65-89



Halo 4 Die Cast Warthog

$14.99


90-115



Halo 4: Collector's Edition: Prima Official Game Guide

$39.99


116-125



Halo 4 Die Cast Mongoose

$7.99


126-151



Halo 4 POP! Master Chief Vinyl Figure

$9.99


152-178



Halo 4 POP! Cortana Vinyl Figure

$9.99


179-205



Halo 4 UNSC Eagle Dog Tags

$5.00


206-355



Halo Mega Bloks MAF (Micro Action Figure) Packs

$2.99


356-403






War Games - Tier 3




Prize


ARV


Finalist Ranking



Halo Mega Bloks Warthog Recon Set

$32.99


1-10



Halo MicrOps Small Box - High Ground Tower

$29.99


11-25



Halo MicrOps Small Box - High Ground Gate

$19.99


26-40



Halo Mega Bloks Orbital Banshee Set

$21.99


41-50



Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn DVD

$22.99


51-100



Halo 4 Series 1 Carded Action Figure

$12.99


101-300



Halo MicrOps Small Card

$9.99


301-360



Halo 4 Master Chief T-Shirt XL

$19.99


361-410



Halo 4 POP! Spartan Warrior Vinyl Figure

$9.99


411-464



Halo Mega Bloks Combat Units Set

$11.99


465-491



Halo 4 UNSC Eagle Dog Tags

$5.00


492-641





Definitely going to participate in this.

[BobtheGreatII]

Uh yeah, this came out a while ago. Signed up a few weeks ago.

[Tnnaas]

"New and interesting" is me not going to Halo Waypoint for over a month then discovering stuff people knew for the last couple of weeks. lol

[PlasbianX]

For anyone that does wanna do Legendary Co-Op, my gamertag is LL PlasX LL

So far only Korn seemed interested, but I really want that achievement.

[DarkHalo003]

For anyone that does wanna do Legendary Co-Op, my gamertag is LL PlasX LL

So far only Korn seemed interested, but I really want that achievement.
If I get Halo 4 early, I'll let you know. I'd be totally glad to have a group to play with for Legendary.

[Ki11a_FTW]

For anyone that does wanna do Legendary Co-Op, my gamertag is LL PlasX LL

So far only Korn seemed interested, but I really want that achievement.

Let me know when you guys plan on playing. FK Arbitor is my GT.

[DarkHalo003]

Mine is the same as my Username. Also, I got Halo 4 early so definitely add me. :)

[Kornman00]

MS/343i continue to fuck up with the DLC: http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=38304

This is what happens when you try to cover up your mistakes like they were good deeds.

[DarkHalo003]

MS/343i continue to fuck up with the DLC: http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=38304

This is what happens when you try to cover up your mistakes like they were good deeds.
All this :mech: up in here.

[Donut]

MS/343i continue to fuck up with the DLC: http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=38304

This is what happens when you try to cover up your mistakes like they were good deeds.
i was just having a discussion yesterday about companies being too far up their own asses to admit it when they make mistakes. i feel like it would go so much farther in the PR department if they would just sack up and say "yeah we fucked up, sorry guys."

thanks for the ammo either way though.

[PlasbianX]

I was thinking about doing the legendary run through either tonight if you guys want to, or wednesday / thursday. Whatever everyone wants.

[DarkHalo003]

I was thinking about doing the legendary run through either tonight if you guys want to, or wednesday / thursday. Whatever everyone wants.
I could tonight or Wednesday.

GT: DarkHalo003

[Tnnaas]

That suck moment when I'll be available Thursday night. :v:

[Kornman00]

I was thinking about doing the legendary run through either tonight if you guys want to, or wednesday / thursday. Whatever everyone wants.
Tonight's kinda short notice. If you're wanting to do it tomorrow night, try posting before the morning's up. Same with thursday. Either way, I should be able to join

[Sever]

I guess I'll put this here since it's Halo 4 related. I have some Halo 4 avatar item codes if anyone's interested - the Cryptum t-shirt and Halo 4 t-shirt, one male and female of each, and also a Mass Effect 3 Normandy SR2 (Alliance) avatar prop. Drop me a line if anyone wants one, since I've no need for them.

[PlasbianX]

Tonight's kinda short notice. If you're wanting to do it tomorrow night, try posting before the morning's up. Same with thursday. Either way, I should be able to join

Yeah, we're probably just gonna go with wednesday / thursday

[Ki11a_FTW]

Yeah, we're probably just gonna go with wednesday / thursday

Shoot me a PM when you guys are going on. I'm good for 10pm (eatern).

[PlasbianX]

I'm free after 2PM EST (GMT-5) so anytime after that works.

[Kornman00]

Works for me

[DarkHalo003]

So I've been playing SpOps since I spent the 14 Day Free Gold Pass that came with the game. It's a lot of fun, albeit some missions are a bit redundant and frustrating as hell when you go it Solo on Heroic. 343i didn't really want anyone to do it alone anyways, especially given how fucking stupid the AI is in these missions. In the first Two Giants mission, where all of the AI have Fuel Rod Cannons and you basically have to strafe endlessly to kill them, the Spartan AI literally just crouch walks into the narrow passage one at a time and get blown to smithereens. Then in both rescue missions where they want you to save the Marine AI, the Marines don't do jack shit except die. Then the AI Turrets in a couple of missions don't really do anything when I thought they'd at least be blasting away at Phantoms or aircraft. Was a bit of fun, but c'mon 343i, if I wanted some bot maps where the AI is often OP and dumb as fuck, I would have just played Halo Custom Edition.

That said, I still think a lot of missions are a lot fun and I don't doubt they are a lot smoother with more than one person.

[Tnnaas]

That post reminds me that I still have to beat Chapter 4 of Episode 5 on Legendary. :gonk:

I agree though, some missions are fun but most are redundant as hell.

[Siliconmaster]

Wait, spartan AI? I've seen Spartans pop up for maybe 15 seconds at a time every now and then, but are you supposed to get AI players to replace theoretical human players? I've played most of the missions alone on Legendary (which is absurd btw) and it's almost always been just me taking out one or two elites per death.

[Ki11a_FTW]

this shit still pisses me off.

http://i.imgur.com/8g19N.jpg

I always thought MC looks boss in H4 but the rest D:. They look like creatures that crawled out of a nuclear wasteland.

[DarkHalo003]

You forgot the Jackals Godzilla.

[PlasbianX]

If we're gonna do that, people need to get on nao. Korn and I are both online. I'm idling around till I see 2 more.

[Tnnaas]

this shit still pisses me off.

-snip-

I always thought MC looks boss in H4 but the rest D:. They look like creatures that crawled out of a nuclear wasteland.
I think this is the third time this thread had me laughing hard. They look so retarded! :lmao:

[Arteen]

Stupid faces aside, I like the Elites. I also prefer MC's Halo 4 armor to what's in Halo 2 and 3. Grunts and jackals are awful.

[PenGuin1362]

I liked the Halo 3 armor. Would be awesome to see it made to the level of fidelity that Halo 4 had. I also like the new elites, but yeah I think the grunts and jackals were too different from the original characters and that bothered me a lot. Really well done characters, but definitely not grunts or jackals.

[EX12693]

Looking at them side by side, I notice the Halo 4 armor is actually a bit reminiscent of the Halo 1 armor. I like that.

[Kornman00]

I was having a great game of SWAT just a few minutes ago, when all of a sudden right as I got my killing frenzy, bam, lost XBL connection -_-. It was literally "Killing frenzy-disconnected from XBL"

[Kornman00]

Yet more evidence that it was unlikely 343i spent much time, if any, testing the campaign in co-op
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-oxoMXsZgA#t=511s

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1169512

[itszutak]

Just bought this game, been playing through it on legendary...


Fuck binary rifle promethians. Just...Fuck 'em. Other than that, the game's been going pretty well. There's a few sections where the LOD really shits on the visuals though. Especially anything seen while flying in a banshee...

[DarkHalo003]

Fuck binary rifle promethians. Just...Fuck 'em. Other than that, the game's been going pretty well. There's a few sections where the LOD really shits on the visuals though. Especially anything seen while flying in a banshee...
Yup. They're assholes.

I noticed the LOD problems in SpOps actually. I think it might have to deal with the Xbox running for more than 2 hours though....

[Kornman00]

http://halo.bungie.org/images/unsc_horiz.png
http://halo.bungie.org/images/unsc_vert.png
:aaaaa:

[DarkHalo003]

I don't get it.

[Kornman00]

The letters are the same no matter your orientation

[Arteen]

Truly the greatest discovery of our time.

[BobtheGreatII]

Mind. Blown.

[Tnnaas]

What's with the magic wand in the UiNSC logo?

[Kornman00]

Unlimited energy sword ammo glitch on Dawn (assuming you have three other people): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWhWH3ksbVM

If you don't have 3 extra ppl on hand, I suppose you could just go into campaign matchmaking

OH WAIT, forgot, that's one of the things 343i doesn't believe in.

[DarkHalo003]

https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/DarkHalo003/wargames/

I've played only two games. I have a Killing Frenzy and Triple Kill already. Hmmmmmmm.

This was my first game:
https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/DarkHalo003/wargames/match-ed8f0c1a4cfa3993

[RedBaron]

The letters are the same no matter your orientation

Technically you have to transpose it.

http://chinfongart.blogspot.com/

I met this guy last night. He was a friend of a friend of a friend who stopped by my place for a few drinks. I was damn surprised to meet someone from 343i considering I am on the East Coast, and they are based in Washington state; apparently he grew up around my area and was visiting for the holidays.

Anyhow, we had a long discussion about how much we both disliked the COD-ing of the multiplayer, and how hard it must have been for the art teams to develop assets given the hardware constraints of the 360 (he told me all art teams combined were allocated only 800 MB of memory at any time of gameplay). And since he was only on the Forerunner art team, I expressed how much I hated the new marines and pelican, at which point he said that he also disliked the broadsword and the new UNSC aircrafts in general.

[Arteen]

That sounds like a fun opportunity. The lich looked great, although I honestly didn't care for the Forerunner designs.

Looking at his blog post, the forerunner and covenant designs do look rather similar. They have the same "monotone base color with accent lights" thing going on.

[DarkHalo003]

Anyhow, we had a long discussion about how much we both disliked the COD-ing of the multiplayer, and how hard it must have been for the art teams to develop assets given the hardware constraints of the 360 (he told me all art teams combined were allocated only 800 MB of memory at any time of gameplay). And since he was only on the Forerunner art team, I expressed how much I hated the new marines and pelican, at which point he said that he also disliked the broadsword and the new UNSC aircrafts in general.
When people say this it still bothers me. It's not really so much that it's "CODification" of any kind because a lot of other FPS games use it (Tribes, Battlefield to name a couple), but rather pulling Halo to current FPS modernization. But I can see why the modernization bothers a lot of people, mainly because Halo has been so stoic in its gameplay philosophies in comparison to the other games. It's obvious 343i is just trying to keep Halo in the FPS race by modernizing it as well as bring in more players. It is a business strategy. However, as an artist and fan of the series, it's easy to be irritated by that fact.

I also agree that the art assets of the UNSC aircraft were bogus and a bit awkward looking. UNSC stuff is supposed to be crisp, slightly curvy, and sharp. I really felt like the curvatures were too liberal this game, albeit the weapons and vehicles look good. Marines are kind of cliche, but I do think they are realistic, even if they are useless half of the time. Still not seeing what the problem with the Forerunner is though.

[EX12693]

I wish they kept with the Halo 3 forerunner style. That shit was awesome.
The new stuff almost looks like it came straight from Tron.

[Arteen]

"Modernization"? If we're talking proper modernization of the competitive FPS genre, we aren't talking about perk systems or other fads. We're talking about theater mode, file sharing, gametype and map customization, online stat tracking and the like. Halo 4 is actually a regression, considering how Reach did everything better.

Also, all of the new CoD-like elements in Halo 4 suck ass.

[Tnnaas]

I think Halo 4 is proof that a franchise cannot be successful on its name alone. It takes a quality comapany to make it successful. I'm going back to following Bungie and just tossing Halo 4 in the closet. Unless an ODST sequel comes out (and it's good!), I'm not buying another Halo title.

I mean, look. Here's 343i, with the biggest (or at least damn near) franchise for the Xbox and they've failed miserably. Their sales were based solely on the fact that it was another Halo title. Remember back before the game came out? All the "I'm buying it because it's Halo." remarks? That's all they had going for them, and it's all they probably ever will have. Customs used to be fun, forge was a blast, and theater was useful. Now customs are a wash, forge sucks, and I can't do a damn thing with theater. Matchmaking is shot to hell (minus some golden playlists), the campaign was too short, and Spartan Ops has become an experience-farming whorehouse.

I think it's fine that they're putting something in, but they never should have broken or removed what we had in the first place. That's like buying a kid batteries for a birthday present and not getting him the actual present. It'd be nice if we could have our cake and eat it too, but I'll be damned if I let 343 have any of mine.

@HaloWaypoint (https://twitter.com/#!/HaloWaypoint) If Halo 4 makes me feel like a six-year-old again, I will personally deliver enough cake for everyone at the studio.

@Dark_Halcyon (https://twitter.com/#!/Dark_Halcyon) It's a deal. Please include enough for seconds. #nomnomnom (https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23nomnomnom)
No. Fuck you, you don't get any cake. :v:

[Masterz1337]

This is still my favorite game of the series, despite it's faults.

[Ki11a_FTW]

This is still my favorite game of the series, despite it's faults.
Yeah I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. Also, the Lich is one bad ass piece of covenant machinery. One of my favorite things in the game.

[DarkHalo003]

I think Halo 4 is proof that a franchise cannot be successful on its name alone. It takes a quality comapany to make it successful. I'm going back to following Bungie and just tossing Halo 4 in the closet. Unless an ODST sequel comes out (and it's good!), I'm not buying another Halo title.

I mean, look. Here's 343i, with the biggest (or at least damn near) franchise for the Xbox and they've failed miserably. Their sales were based solely on the fact that it was another Halo title. Remember back before the game came out? All the "I'm buying it because it's Halo." remarks? That's all they had going for them, and it's all they probably ever will have. Customs used to be fun, forge was a blast, and theater was useful. Now customs are a wash, forge sucks, and I can't do a damn thing with theater. Matchmaking is shot to hell (minus some golden playlists), the campaign was too short, and Spartan Ops has become an experience-farming whorehouse.

I think it's fine that they're putting something in, but they never should have broken or removed what we had in the first place. That's like buying a kid batteries for a birthday present and not getting him the actual present. It'd be nice if we could have our cake and eat it too, but I'll be damned if I let 343 have any of mine.


No. Fuck you, you don't get any cake. http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/extra/v.gif
Someone is mad. Don't get mad. Get good. Joking of course.


"Modernization"? If we're talking proper modernization of the competitive FPS genre, we aren't talking about perk systems or other fads. We're talking about theater mode, file sharing, gametype and map customization, online stat tracking and the like. Halo 4 is actually a regression, considering how Reach did everything better.

Also, all of the new CoD-like elements in Halo 4 suck ass.
I'll admit Theatre mode, file sharing, and customization have all been lackluster as a result of 343i not picking up on important bugs and other obvious issues. However, calling the game shit because of those is simply barbaric. I also think Halo 4 does better than what Reach did at a gameplay level. It's sad knowing what you loved in past games has gone south for the time being. I personally think the game has succeeded in being a pilot for the next trilogy. However, it just shows the differences in opinions I guess.

As far as talking about FPS Modernization, I was simply referring to Baron's statement and nothing else in this thread. I was talking about perk systems and other fads if you want to know what I was referring to without quoted reference.

[itszutak]

Halo 4 felt more "halo" than reach did, honestly...especially the multiplayer but I was glad to see no fucking firefight parts in the singleplayer

Plotwise...I still have a LOT of questions but it was enjoyable. Will have to replay not on legendary to really get a feel for it

edit: tbh almost all my complaints are art direction related

[Kornman00]

p2RI45IjeFI
I tried out the teleporter one...killed me every time. Activates when crouching, forget if thruster pack does too

but I was glad to see no fucking firefight parts in the singleplayer
Unless you played SPOPs first, then you would see firefight parts in the campaign :trollface:

[ThePlague]

How are you able to use those?

[itszutak]

Unless you played SPOPs first, then you would see firefight parts in the campaign :trollface:Son of a bitch. I've been saving SPOPS for after I'm back at my apartment with my roommates...guess they had to cram firefight in somewhere :/

[ODX]

Spartan Ops is irritating in that teammates can be dickwads and kill your vehicles or run you over, and there's nothing you can do about it. You can't ban them. Fucking hell.

In terms of armor abilities though: OMG BLINK

[DarkHalo003]

Son of a bitch. I've been saving SPOPS for after I'm back at my apartment with my roommates...guess they had to cram firefight in somewhere :/
There are a lot of Fireifghts, but mind you the levels themselves can be quite fun at times. Think more like ODST Firefights except you have a more expansive playground with storyline objectives, as well as infinite lives.


How are you able to use those?
You can't, it's hardened in the code. Halo4Council probably is using some hackware to show the demonstration.


Spartan Ops is irritating in that teammates can be dickwads and kill your vehicles or run you over, and there's nothing you can do about it. You can't ban them. Fucking hell.

In terms of armor abilities though: OMG BLINK
I played it solo on Heroic and then I learned to appreciate my teammates entirely.lol.

As far as Blink: YES. We are one with the shadows. Now the Stalker Specialization will truly have meaning!

Balance-wise: It would be too OP. All it would take is a Blink then Sword Lunge or shotgun blast and you'd be toast. There would need to be some sort of time threshold or serious indicator to balance it at its current speed. Of course, if the teleport took longer to happen, then it's less about OP Sword Lunge and more about being a useful skill besides Evade or Jetpack (given both are meant to help movement).

I REALLY like Hacker though. I think they should implement that in a DLC because in Halo:Reach I think every Armor-Lock-Hating user would have loved it. In fact, it makes me wonder if Bungie had brainstormed it and just couldn't fit it in. Oh Xbaux 360, your time is near. Let's just hope there's a lot more power with this next gear. Lol rhymes. It's Christmas Eve folks. Deal with it.

[Arteen]

Son of a bitch. I've been saving SPOPS for after I'm back at my apartment with my roommates...guess they had to cram firefight in somewhere :/
The best part is how often they re-use the SpOps maps themselves. There are eight maps between 25 missions, and only two of those maps are custom. The rest are from campaign or multiplayer. Have fun playing that one section in campaign, then play it backwards in SpOps, then playing it forward again in SpOps, then backwards again, then backwards once more for good measure.

[DarkHalo003]

The best part is how often they re-use the SpOps maps themselves. There are eight maps between 25 missions, and only two of those maps are custom. The rest are from campaign or multiplayer. Have fun playing that one section in campaign, then play it backwards in SpOps, then playing it forward again in SpOps, then backwards again, then backwards once more for good measure.
To be fair, the gameplay is still quite fun. But yeah, prepare for a lot of redundancy and like a lot of these chaps are saying, make sure you know your teammates to bring out as much fun as possible.

[PlasbianX]

For the purposes of doing challenges, is there a list anywhere of what SpOps maps have the most of X amount of enemy? Like so far shootout in valhalla is the best for getting hunters, but what maps are good for say Jackals or Elites?

[DarkHalo003]

For the purposes of doing challenges, is there a list anywhere of what SpOps maps have the most of X amount of enemy? Like so far shootout in valhalla is the best for getting hunters, but what maps are good for say Jackals or Elites?
The Quarry or The Cauldron are the best for those IMO, especially the later missions where it's just wave after wave after wave.

[PlasbianX]

The Quarry or The Cauldron are the best for those IMO, especially the later missions where it's just wave after wave after wave.

I'll have to take numbers on those missions then. Because after doing Shootout, I got 30 jackals, 50+ elites, 15 hunters or so, and whatever number of grunts (wasnt much)

[Kornman00]

You can't, it's hardened in the code. Halo4Council probably is using some hackware to show the demonstration.

Nope.avi

Do a search on "Lord Zedd" and you'll find the poop in his file share

[Arteen]

This is a fun read. (http://armchairdesigner.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/the-philosophy-behind-war-games-a-rebuttal/)

tl;dr Halo 4 is dumb

[PlasbianX]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/02/halo-4-getting-competitive-skill-rank-system

I do not know if this was posted in here before, but considering I'm almost 127.. I'm gonna need something more to work towards other than commendations in this game.

[Tnnaas]

I've challenged myself to use the worst gun in the game exclusively now. Now, I know I'm not good, but holy hell I am having fun racking up kills with the suppressor. I also managed to discover where it is best used too.

Paired up with a buddy. Assist or steal the kill.
Use ordinance near enemy spawns as a lure. Hide until they approach your stuff then take 'em out while they are grabbing your drop.
In tight corridors, around corners, or in caves. Unleash hell.

Objective and FFA matches work to your advantage with the suppressor. I did both BTB and Team Slayer and only select BTB maps like Longbow, Vortex, and Exile seemed to work for me. You don't want something wide open like Ragnarok especially without buildings or enclosed chokepoints.

It's not a camping weapon, but you almost have to use it like one until you're comfortable with it. In time I was able to 1 v 3 BR opponents or go toe-to-toe with an overshielded, SAW waving maniac in the open. Also learning how to keep away from oncoming bullets helps. Dodging shit is half the battle. I use PV to keep tabs on nearby baddies. It lets me know how I should prepare. Use what you think is best though.

Hope this helped pave the way for future suppressor masters. Good luck.

[itszutak]

The suppressor is bad? Shit, I've been using it quite a bit...Mostly on the smaller maps though. It's a really fast close-range killer from my experience.

Of course, I'm low level and probably playing against low skill players...

[DarkHalo003]

Someone did a test and showed that among all of the automatic rifles, the Suppressor is the best up close and the Assault Rifle is the best from midrange. The Storm Rifle is like a hybrid of both rangewise because it isn't quite as proficient as both in their respective areas but closes the gap in between.

[ThePlague]

So I finally managed to beat the campaign on legendary last night. Holy shit that was a bitch. I don't think me and my friend have ever had that much trouble beating any Halo campaign before (been doing it since 1). Was pretty great though, will give them that.

inb4 wearing Mark VI armor like everyone else, I use Raider.

[itszutak]

So I finally managed to beat the campaign on legendary last night. Holy shit that was a bitch. I don't think me and my friend have ever had that much trouble beating any Halo campaign before (been doing it since 1). Was pretty great though, will give them that.

inb4 wearing Mark VI armor like everyone else, I use Raider.My only really major problem was binary rifles...FUCK binary rifles on legendary. One shot to kill me, but two at least to kill enemies? errgh.

[EX12693]

Just like the Halo 2 beam rifles. Fuck I hated those.

[Tnnaas]

Except if you're watching, you can see when you're about to die. Beam Rifle wielding jackals will never give you that kind of warning.

Also, I had more trouble with Scattershot users than snipers on Legendary. Fucking Battlewagons. :ugh:

[DarkHalo003]

Except if you're watching, you can see when you're about to die. Beam Rifle wielding jackals will never give you that kind of warning.

Also, I had more trouble with Scattershot users than snipers on Legendary. Fucking Battlewagons. :ugh:
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK those assholes. At least you have a chance at dodging Binary Rifles. If the Promethean Knights want to, they can just bumrush you then blast you to death.

H2 Jackals were also more scripted, so if you knew where they would be before they knew where you'd be then you were okay. The fact that both Knights and Crawlers could be ANYWHERE to shoot with a Binary Rifles is simply terrifying. I played a SpOps mission on Heroic on for some reason they ALL HAD BINARY RIFLES. I think I died like 20 times that game.

[itszutak]

Except if you're watching, you can see when you're about to die. Beam Rifle wielding jackals will never give you that kind of warning.

Also, I had more trouble with Scattershot users than snipers on Legendary. Fucking Battlewagons. :ugh:Only really had problem with the first scattershot user I encountered. Once I realized you can't let knights run to cover FUCKING EVER and you need a constant bead on them it became a lot more manageable. I kept a PP/"single-shot" secondary (to take down shields quickly), and a headshot-capable primary (preferring the DMR but often using the lightrifle) and things worked out.

[Warsaw]

The Jackals weren't the problem in Halo 2. It was the Elites, especially since a single plasma rifle could fire at the same rate as a stationary plasma gun (the little purple ones) and they often had two. Combine it with tissue-paper-for-shields and...welp.

[DarkHalo003]

The Jackals weren't the problem in Halo 2. It was the Elites, especially since a single plasma rifle could fire at the same rate as a stationary plasma gun (the little purple ones) and they often had two. Combine it with tissue-paper-for-shields and...welp.
Dude I thought the Drones were the biggest pain in the ass. They could be anywhere and Plasma Pistols/Needlers hurt when it's 10 of them at once. Elites in Halo 2 Legendary were just too intriguing for me to be pissed by them. Outskirts had so many good Elite encounters because it had so many varieties of them in that one level alone.

Don't forget the Brutes walking damage sponges from The Gravemind onwards.

[Donut]

i never understood the frustration with brutes in halo 2. you just cap them in the head with the carbine, right? 1 or 2 shots to remove that little headpiece thing, then one more to finish them off. most of my difficulty came from vehicle battles and elite's shields.

i guess thats the problem ive always had with halo on legendary. youre basically forced to use a plasma pistol and a headshot-capable weapon throughout the whole game, because most of everything else just isnt effective, or doesnt last long enough (rockets, sword). its kind of upsetting when there are only 2 or 3 effective weapons in a game 20+ weapons to choose from.

at least in halo 1 i can think of a good use for every single weapon. halo 2 is pushing it, and most of the single hand weapons in halo 3 are absolutely useless. looking at you, magnum. it gets a little better with the online, but its still mostly dominated by the BR or DMR, followed by the shotgun, sniper rifle, and rockets.

i believe the term for what this leads to is "first order optimal strategy".

[DarkHalo003]

i never understood the frustration with brutes in halo 2. you just cap them in the head with the carbine, right? 1 or 2 shots to remove that little headpiece thing, then one more to finish them off. most of my difficulty came from vehicle battles and elite's shields.

i guess thats the problem ive always had with halo on legendary. youre basically forced to use a plasma pistol and a headshot-capable weapon throughout the whole game, because most of everything else just isnt effective, or doesnt last long enough (rockets, sword). its kind of upsetting when there are only 2 or 3 effective weapons in a game 20+ weapons to choose from.

at least in halo 1 i can think of a good use for every single weapon. halo 2 is pushing it, and most of the single hand weapons in halo 3 are absolutely useless. looking at you, magnum. it gets a little better with the online, but its still mostly dominated by the BR or DMR, followed by the shotgun, sniper rifle, and rockets.

i believe the term for what this leads to is "first order optimal strategy".
It wasn't so much that the Brutes were difficult individually as it was if they were in a cluster, went berserk, or were in Vehicles. The vehicle segments and berserk moments made me rage so hard.

Quarantine Zone on Legendary was also a huge pain in the ass.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Funny I just played outskirts on Legendary. I beat the Campagin once on legendary then was never bothered to play any of it again on that difficulty. The only ones I can actually have fun on are Outskirts, Delta Halo, and Uprising. The rest were just annoying as hell.

[itszutak]

Outskirts?

I always sped through that level. Get to the blind skull spawn at the start (not to pick it up but to be up there), roofjump to the sword, roofjump to the first loading zone, run to the ghost and boost through the rest of the level, preferrably with an empty sword as my secondary and a BR as my primary. Next level, I have an infinitely-charged sword and am pretty much set.

[Pooky]

i never understood the frustration with brutes in halo 2. you just cap them in the head with the carbine, right? 1 or 2 shots to remove that little headpiece thing, then one more to finish them off. most of my difficulty came from vehicle battles and elite's shields.

Yeah um.. once you get to the Brute missions there's little to no reason to carry a PP from that point on. A carbine takes out brutes easily from a distance, and Needlers/Sword are effective against both them and Elites.

[Warsaw]

Carbines were my weapon of choice against Brutes in close quarters like hallways. Even in a pack, you just spam at head level and you'll most likely kill most of them. In more open areas, the Needlers reigned supreme.There was nothing that a single long burst from dual Needlers would not kill, save for Hunters. RIP, dual Needlers.

[Donut]

Yeah um.. once you get to the Brute missions there's little to no reason to carry a PP from that point on. A carbine takes out brutes easily from a distance, and Needlers/Sword are effective against both them and Elites.
oh yeah i forgot about the dual needlers. those were ridiculous. but still, thats just halo 2, and even then, whatever headshot weapon you were using is still just as effective on brutes. move into halo 3, where they reworked brutes to have shields, and a plasma pistol will serve you through the whole game except the flood parts.

[Warsaw]

I just used the shotgun on Brutes in Halo 3 because there was always one available.

[Pooky]

whatever headshot weapon you were using

So, the Carbine then :downs:

Seriously... anyone else notice how the BR and Sniper disappeared nigh completely halfway through the game?

[Tnnaas]

Yeah, that was pretty upsetting. I can handle the whole range of weapons, but I still prefer the true blue UNSC ordinance that I've come to known.

[ejburke]

Wait, which game are we talking about?

It's pretty hard to contrive reasons to have UNSC weapons deep in unkown territory toward the end of these games when the UNSC forces are toast. But it would be cool to have a UNSC-only (or Covenant-only or Forerunner-only) weapons skull. But apparently, they are fucking married to the skulls that Bungie arbitrarily came up with 5+ years ago. It's almost like they hard-coded them into a very sensitive part of the engine.

[Tnnaas]

Double post because fuck in-bred fucktards. It's getting hard to earn perfections with my allies betraying me once a game. Last game, some asshole ran me over when I was ten kills in. It's like there's a switch that gets thrown every time I set out to accomplish something and it causes some rediculous effect that takes hold of my team and forces them to act like clueless fucking idiots. Goddamn.

I'm not mad that it happens, no. I'm mad that it happens damn near every game. :maddowns:

EDIT: Wow, way to let me save edits the first time vB.

[Kornman00]

But apparently, they are fucking married to the skulls that Bungie arbitrarily came up with 5+ years ago. It's almost like they hard-coded them into a very sensitive part of the engine.
Well, AFAIK, the only ex-Bungie programmer at 343i is Greg Snook (animations). However, 343i has been around in some fashion since at least 2009, and the engine can't be THAT hard to figure out when you have the source, so it's not like they have an excuse for sensitivity about not adding more skulls.

I'm holding off on complaining until H5, though. I mean they don't even have skulls in SPOPs, so, in my eyes, I think they didn't rate skulls in general to be that high priority, other than not breaking what Bungie already had in place.

The H4 credits (in the first minute, not didn't wait for the obscure everyone-else credits) list 65 total engineers (animations, MP, sandbox, infrastructure, etc), and some of them were listed as non-343. That's 65+ engineers inheriting a working codebase. :shrug:

[Ki11a_FTW]

Outskirts?

I always sped through that level. Get to the blind skull spawn at the start (not to pick it up but to be up there), roofjump to the sword, roofjump to the first loading zone, run to the ghost and boost through the rest of the level, preferrably with an empty sword as my secondary and a BR as my primary. Next level, I have an infinitely-charged sword and am pretty much set.

Well we all know the shortcuts;) but I played through appropriatly just to absurve the encounters.

[Warsaw]

Wait, which game are we talking about?

It's pretty hard to contrive reasons to have UNSC weapons deep in unkown territory toward the end of these games when the UNSC forces are toast. But it would be cool to have a UNSC-only (or Covenant-only or Forerunner-only) weapons skull. But apparently, they are fucking married to the skulls that Bungie arbitrarily came up with 5+ years ago. It's almost like they hard-coded them into a very sensitive part of the engine.

Didn't stop Bungie before when they dumped ass-loads of random weapons and ammo in Assault on the Control Room and Silent Cartographer, and there shouldn't have been that much on Keyes either.

[itszutak]

Oh man, ammo placement.

I was kinda tired of having to grab all the useful weapons from crates by the end of halo 4...there really should have been some sort of middle unit between Knights and the dog-things; something that could reasonably use rifle-type weapons, but wasn't an insane pain in the ass to fight (seriously...did anybody else notice how fucking fast knight shields recharge on legendary?!)

Perhaps on my second run-through of the campaign (on an easier difficulty) I can actually test out this supposed brand-new AI for the knights; all I really noticed was that they'd sorta hop from side to side and run to cover any time I tried shooting them. I /guess/ that one Watcher (or whatever they're called, the little flying guys) I threw a grenade at did pick it up, but I really couldn't use any fancy tactics on Legendary like the demo videos did.

[DarkHalo003]

Oh man, ammo placement.

I was kinda tired of having to grab all the useful weapons from crates by the end of halo 4...there really should have been some sort of middle unit between Knights and the dog-things; something that could reasonably use rifle-type weapons, but wasn't an insane pain in the ass to fight (seriously...did anybody else notice how fucking fast knight shields recharge on legendary?!)

Perhaps on my second run-through of the campaign (on an easier difficulty) I can actually test out this supposed brand-new AI for the knights; all I really noticed was that they'd sorta hop from side to side and run to cover any time I tried shooting them. I /guess/ that one Watcher (or whatever they're called, the little flying guys) I threw a grenade at did pick it up, but I really couldn't use any fancy tactics on Legendary like the demo videos did.
I suggest Heroic: the Knights will give you a run for your money and everything can still royally screw you over if you're not fast to react. Normal is way too EZ and it feels too slow IMO. I've also noticed that in general the more stamina/health/power you give an AI the more it keeps itself open to attack and the less it goes for cover. In Heroic, Knights teleport like mad and most AI go for cover/regroup pretty fast if they remotely feel unable to win.

[=sw=warlord]

Legendary, Tilt and Catch.
Try that combination on forerunner and see how much of a man you are.

[Tnnaas]

You're on, but only after I beat Halo: Comat Evolved for XBox on Legendary with Legacy Southpaw controls and inverted aim. I feel like torturing myself today.

EDIT: It's like plugging in an etch-a-sketch for a controller. Also, the only reason I stopped to edit this is because an ally's frag blew us up in the first airlock encounter. Apparently being betrayed is a universal trait of mine. :ugh:

[Kornman00]

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[ODX]

What the fuck, how do people figure this shit out.

[ejburke]

What a cocktease. All that work and you can only keep it for that little itty bitty battle. Can't take on the Liche. Can't clear out sniper alley. Come on guys: keep melee'ing until you get that sucker into the rest of the level! Melee is the new grenade jump.

[itszutak]

wait--the pelican had a SPARTAN LASER!? Shit, how'd I miss that?

Second--so the pelican you drive at the end isn't some special unique vehicle for that encounter? I expected it would be...

third-- happy page 343

[Kornman00]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/356/d/8/regular_halo_by_argibi-d5otfac.jpg
http://argibi.deviantart.com/#/d5otfac

[EX12693]

http://kornnersoftware.com/images/boner.png

[DarkHalo003]

I lol'd pretty hard, not gonna lie, because that's what I was thinking the whole time. :realsmug:

Also, someone needs to make meme faces from Halo 4 because there could be SO MANY OF THEM.

[Kornman00]

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Get. Some.

[CabooseJr]

He certainly got something.

[ThePlague]

I love doing that with those idiots who try to turn a corner and sticky you.

[DarkHalo003]

Promethean vision ftw. You camping? I see you! Grenades lol.

[Tnnaas]

Extraction is like a badass version of Terittories. Why isn't in matchmaking yet?

[Kornman00]

If you guys checkout my fileshare, for a film called "Flood 1.021", you can catch a glimpse of the shape of things to come. Special thanks to Limited for helping me verify things.

[Limited]

If you guys checkout my fileshare, for a film called "Flood 1.021", you can catch a glimpse of the shape of things to come. Special thanks to Limited for helping me verify things.Korns trying to get fileshare banned again? :D

Glad to help test, loving the changes so far.

[DarkHalo003]

Too lazy. Just post a Youtube video of it.

jk

How do I Fileshare on Halo 4? I know for past games you could just go to Bungie.net and queue downloads from the player profiles.

[Kornman00]

Too lazy to setup my Pinnacle. Your loss

[PlasbianX]

Just tried out the flood variant with Korn; it's pretty damn cool.

[CabooseJr]

I can record it tomorrow if you want.

[Kornman00]

U WILL RECORD TONIGHT :maddowns:

about to do a team regicide modification

[PlasbianX]

U WILL RECORD TONIGHT :maddowns:

about to do a team regicide modification

My internet cut out there when we were waiting on you :( But I wanna check out the regicide change when ya make it

[Kornman00]

I just played it with General Doom. Set the player scale to 2 and the damage resistance to 1.5x the normal amount (since they're a bigger target). We noticed that they don't apply the player scale trait to the kill cam (where they just basically play back the player actions), but the weapon backpacks will still be as if you are the larger size. Hologram also doesn't keep the scale trait. Probably is a sign that they didn't do much testing of the player scale trait.

I uploaded the flood and CTF games from earlier. Need to eat, but if a few people want to get on later for some of the modified regicide/ctf/flood (or something else), I'm down.

[Ki11a_FTW]

So my Xbox fell over with the game running inside it -_-. I ran over and caught it but it still fucked up my disk. I can't play the level forerunner at all, and all the per-rendered cut scenes have no folly sounds or music:(

[Tnnaas]

That CTF match... I was in awe when I saw Korn grab the flag.

So, one question: Are you limited to how high you can set the player scale or can you set them as high or small as you want?

[Kornman00]

I think we should call it MarioCTF

Too bad the head of the flag can't be switched with a mushroom heh


There are limits, but the lower and upper boundaries are both pretty much unplayable.

[CabooseJr]

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Lemme know if you ever need anything else recorded. I always have my capture device hooked up.

[Kornman00]

Get on XBL right now, and maybe we can get a game going

[CabooseJr]

I've been on Viva Pinata. GT: Hardstyle Miku

[Kornman00]

Heh, I just realized that was the game where we were trying to get the last man standing to assassinate one of us (as I increased the LMS assassination speed). However, that one LMS guy who's name starts with a D wasn't in the party right then. Then that round ended and we like like "okay, we got D in here now we can do it". Expect Nne then joined the game during the last round and became the LMS. And he wasn't in the XBL party. So we didn't get a game with a good assassination shot :saddowns:

edit: add me, kornman00, I'm in the process of making some tweaks

[Tnnaas]

Heh, whoops. I was unexposed to mods in Halo 4 until then, so I was genuinely fearful for my... character's life. :/

[CabooseJr]

Watch out for spartans in tiny tricycles.

[Tnnaas]

Woah, woah, woah, back up!

http://puu.sh/1ILeS.png

FIRTH?! Before you say anything, that's a "one". I double checked to make sure I wasn't seeing things. That's a "one" with a "th" after it. Firth. OKAY!!

[DarkHalo003]

Firth is better than first. Duh.

[Kornman00]

I thought you'd be taller

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[itszutak]

thanks your video gave me permanent motion sickness

[Kornman00]

Youtube's "your video looks funny, want us to fix it?" should explain WHY THE FUCK IT LOOKS FUNNY and WHAT THEY FUCK THEIR DEFINITION OF "fix it" IS.

Twas not like that on upload. Re-uploading another one, this time without youtube "fixing it"

edit: reup'd it and fixed the post above to use it instead

[Donut]

like i said, youtube's auto correct should be relabeled "fuck shit up mode". i have yet to see it fix anything.

[ODX]

I thought you'd be taller

r0e17Wf2frs9:51. Best part. And 10:31.

[itszutak]

Youtube's "your video looks funny, want us to fix it?" should explain WHY THE FUCK IT LOOKS FUNNY and WHAT THEY FUCK THEIR DEFINITION OF "fix it" IS.

Twas not like that on upload. Re-uploading another one, this time without youtube "fixing it"

edit: reup'd it and fixed the post above to use it insteadit works well with everything that isn't videogames; it's actually quite impressive with shakycam.

But yeah they really should explain what the hell they do and when not to use it

[DarkHalo003]

Youtube's "your video looks funny, want us to fix it?" should explain WHY THE FUCK IT LOOKS FUNNY and WHAT THEY FUCK THEIR DEFINITION OF "fix it" IS.

I was uploading a music video for class and it gave me that same notice. That basically translated in my brain "Want us, Youtube, to fuck up your video?"

[ThePlague]

I want to play with you guys :C

GT: TearShade

[Kornman00]

Maybe we can get a larger group going this weekend. What time is good for you slackers?

[Tnnaas]

Anytime you catch me online. I don't think I have plans so it's a good long span of Xbox Live for me.

[ODX]

I have a swim meet until maybe 5 PM Central, so Saturday night or all of Sunday would be good.

[Kornman00]

Let's try shooting for Saturday night then. say around 6PM EST?

[ThePlague]

Good for me.

[CabooseJr]

I'll play for sure. I'll have to leave around 11:00PM EST though.

[Tnnaas]

Yo, I have a question: How is it that I can play a match, get twenty (20) kills, avoid death the entire match, and not get a perfection?

I'm calling BS. Is it only on certain gametypes or what? I-I-I just don't.... :I

[NotZac]

I'm pretty sure perfections are only possible in Slayer. I think that's how it's been in the past.

[DarkHalo003]

It's only for slayer.

[CabooseJr]

Did the host quit and you go into black screen?

[Ki11a_FTW]

Can anyone get me some screencaps or reference shots of the Lich? I've been eager to model this thing but I don't have a 360HD so I can't view games i've played.

[Tnnaas]

I'm pretty sure perfections are only possible in Slayer. I think that's how it's been in the past.

It's only for slayer.
How remarkably un-awesome. :v:

This is the only Halo I've played where the enemy doesn't know how to shoot back in objective games. I guess it's back to sniping from the towers on Ragnarok then.

[DarkHalo003]

How remarkably un-awesome. :v:

This is the only Halo I've played where the enemy doesn't know how to shoot back in objective games. I guess it's back to sniping from the towers on Ragnarok then.
Lol you serious? I racked up around 30-40 kills almost every objective game I played since Halo 3. For some reason, people lose the concept that dying hurts your team (some objective gametypes make it so you can immediately respawn in Halo 4, so this still applies) and since Halo 3 I have utterly gone most games uncontested half of the time because people don't realize I'm simply there to keep the flag carrier clean of bulletholes or rockets to the face. I think you and I are playing different games. Your experiences are totally opposite to mine. :v:

[Kornman00]

Can anyone get me some screencaps or reference shots of the Lich? I've been eager to model this thing but I don't have a 360HD so I can't view games i've played.
Well, there's no film support in H4 for anything other than PvP games. So even if you had a HDD, you wouldn't be able to watch your campaign game.

[=sw=warlord]

Well, there's no film support in H4 for anything other than PvP games. So even if you had a HDD, you wouldn't be able to watch your campaign game.
Has the support been completely stripped out?

[Tnnaas]

Lol you serious? I racked up around 30-40 kills almost every objective game I played since Halo 3.Without dying, clearly.


For some reason, people lose the concept that dying hurts your team (some objective gametypes make it so you can immediately respawn in Halo 4, so this still applies) and since Halo 3 I have utterly gone most games uncontested half of the time because people don't realize I'm simply there to keep the flag carrier clean of bulletholes or rockets to the face.My job is usually keeping the flag in its stand. Some people just don't play defense and I grew tired of hearing, "Flag stolen." Plus, with five players a team we can actually afford to defend the objectives.


I think you and I are playing different games. Your experiences are totally opposite to mine. :v:Yes, because I don't play while high (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?24316-Pictures-Funny-and-or-Random&p=630391&viewfull=1#post630391).

[Kornman00]

Has the support been completely stripped out?
I haven't investigated. While it would be interesting in checking it out and possibly hacking such support back in, I don't consider it that interesting or worth while of a venture.

While looking into the player information values for a TTL guy comparing movement values across all the different games, I noticed that the player representation information element for elites is completely empty. So elites in MP have been completely stripped out.

[=sw=warlord]

I haven't investigated. While it would be interesting in checking it out and possibly hacking such support back in, I don't consider it that interesting or worth while of a venture.

While looking into the player information values for a TTL guy comparing movement values across all the different games, I noticed that the player representation information element for elites is completely empty. So elites in MP have been completely stripped out.
reason I asked is I wanted to know whether the omission was the result of the engine having issues with a side effect of 343I's level design or whether the film editor had been stripped out intentionally for campaign and spart-ops.
I know 343I mentioned they may "fix" the theater in the future but that's pretty much the same thing bungie said about DLC for ODST.

[Kornman00]

Well, when you think about it, the Theater is explicitly under Wargames...it's an awkward setup for them to have it there if they ever do intend to have it for campaign too.

[Kornman00]

Another glitch found, this time on Adift:
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[DarkHalo003]

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How does he know about .vehicle? :tinfoil:

[Ki11a_FTW]

He mapped for HCE tVnO1mM8khA

[ThePlague]

inb4 he has no girlfriend, owait.

[DarkHalo003]

He mapped for HCE tVnO1mM8khA

Holy shit he did those maps and also was pals with Guru? Haha, I love randomly seeing what a lot of the older mapmakers peeled off to do after HCE. I still wish I knew what happened to Jahrain. He was an inspiration for me. :smith:

[Ki11a_FTW]

FFFF Now my xbox won't read my disc at all. Does anyone who has the game installed to their console know if it will run the full game with just disc 2 inserted to the tray? If so I'm gonna by a USB.

[Zeph]

I still wish I knew what happened to Jahrain. He was an inspiration for me. :smith:
What do you want to know? He's doing more programming oriented things now. Last I saw he was really getting into shaders and lighting for a game he and some other people were developing. He asked me to help out with some art but I didn't have the time back then.

Looks like he put up a demo reel about a year ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GWHSwEKbE

[Kornman00]

I came across what appeared to be his LinkedIn a while back. He didn't accept my connection, so he probably abadoned it or didn't realize who I was

[Kornman00]

Sound off if you're planning on joining the For Reals Custom game tonight (a little bit after 6PM EST)

So far I count the following people on record:
Myself
ThePlague (TearShade)
ODX
CabooseJr
NneYe

To give ODX time to get back from his meet, I'll be setting up the variants on my Xbox starting around 6PM, so the fun and games proper might not start until around 615pm-ish.

If someone wants to make a Valhalla, or other large open map, variant with ALL the vehicles placed and maybe an array of swappable armor abilities, that would be helpful for later shenanigans.

[Tnnaas]

I made and uploaded "Ragnarok 1.021" to my fileshare. All vehicles and armor abilities are there so we can try everything out.

[Tnnaas]

Well, it's nice being informed last minute. :v:

I'm leaving for Topeka at around 6:00 (Central; GMT -6) tonight which means maybe half an hour of playing Korn's customs. :ugh:

[Kornman00]

Well you could always send a clone :downs:

[TeeKup]

I could join in.

[DarkHalo003]

What do you want to know? He's doing more programming oriented things now. Last I saw he was really getting into shaders and lighting for a game he and some other people were developing. He asked me to help out with some art but I didn't have the time back then.

Looks like he put up a demo reel about a year ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GWHSwEKbE
That's pretty cool, definitely funny when I recognize all of those maps and a lot of content he used for the reel. I'd simply like to meet him and thank him for open-sourcing his content so I could learn from it both technically and morally.

[CabooseJr]

I might be a little bit late. I got some stuff to take care of before I can join in.

[Kornman00]

Finally, some fucking news of Forge in MM, Grifball, and team doubles (comes after Frank's :words:): http://halo.bungie.org/halobulletins/80

[ThePlague]

So I got an Easycap today:
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It's kinda shitty quality, but better than nothing. Especially for 10 USD.

[DarkHalo003]

That's pretty cool dude. I used to have a capture card, but that was about 5 years ago and now it's corrupted/no-longer-functional. Fascinating devices, not so much how they do it, but the end result.

[PlasbianX]

Played damn near perfect 1:1 remakes of lockout and the pit yesterday. Loved em. Hope to see them in MM

[ThePlague]

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I'm going to start doing commentaries on this crappy game.