"Halo 4: I Get a Woman!" - Sgt. Mjr. A.J. Johnson, RIP

[Ki11a_FTW]

In my original post I was actually addressing the Halo 2 elites with the Halo 4 elites. Halo 2 elites just look like the perfect advanced-kickass alien. Theyre armor is also very sharp and the Halo Reaches elites arent bad, but I didnt like the design personally. The armor is a lot more smoother and rounded, but you can still tell its the covenant elite. Halo 4's just looks over-done, it looks ancient and it looks like they worked way to hard to give it a reptile look. It looks nothing like it should be IMO

[DarkHalo003]

The only problem I have with Halo Reach's Elites is that they look kind of cartoonish as the proportions of the body become more exaggerated outwards (the feet and other appendages are kind of bulbous now).

[t3h m00kz]

It's also been getting totally demolished in popularity by every CoD game released since MW2.

http://www.inquisitr.com/177649/xbox-live-top-games-of-2011/

HOLY FUCK IT'S #4 WHAT A FUCKING FAILURE THEY SHOULD JUST FUCKING QUIT!!

[TeeKup]

I'll go ahead and say it now, H2's flood levels were bar far the scariest things I had ever played at the time.

[BobtheGreatII]

I'll go ahead and say it now, H2's flood levels were bar far the scariest things I had ever played at the time.

Yes.

[Pooky]

Pooky, I'm glad you now know why I think this is all incredibly sad. :shake:

I think it's sad that Reach had the potential to be the best Halo game but failed due to some really dumb decisions. As for the beta being better, I don't know. I quit out of the beta before it even finished due to how atrociously broken the vehicle combat was. The guy who promoted increasing the ammo count for the DMR did so for the right reasons, it's just that the same philosophy should have been applied to all the weapons. More ammo, more damage, more versatility.


HOLY FUCK IT'S #4 WHAT A FUCKING FAILURE THEY SHOULD JUST FUCKING QUIT!!

Chill out dude. I never (directly) said it was a failure. But considering Halo 3 and Halo 2 both dominated XBL for most of their respective life spans, I think it's fair to call Reach a low point for the series. It's being beaten by three separate CoD games. I mean come on, Modern Warfare 2 is older than Reach and it's still beating it.

[t3h m00kz]

oh really


.
I'd rather see a game go all in and stick to its own principles than try to please everyone and fail on all counts (Reach).

no mad bro all chill!

[Pooky]

There's a difference between gameplay failure (which is opinion) and commercial failure. I assumed you were talking about the latter, since you mentioned money and all.

[Bobblehob]

Im pretty sure that Modern Warfare 2 dominated Halo 3 from the day it was released.

[t3h m00kz]

There's a difference between gameplay failure (which is opinion) and commercial failure. I assumed you were talking about the latter, since you mentioned money and all.

it's too bad the majority of people's opinions is what got reach up into #4 then isn't it.

[DarkHalo003]

Im pretty sure that Modern Warfare 2 dominated Halo 3 from the day it was released.
Nah, they were close, but neither one actually had supremacy over the other until the late days when both had exhausted their playability. I think a lot of Halo player diverted to other games and CoD was the default for players who didn't always play.

Halo Reach had a silent majority which is why it suffered.

[Pooky]

it's too bad the majority of people's opinions is what got reach up into #4 then isn't it.

I was more so pointing to the fact that Halo is no longer on top (not only that, it's losing to 3 Call of Duty games). Games in general have gotten more popular, while Halo is relatively less so than it's ever been.

[t3h m00kz]

So now you want Halo to be super popular and cater to the masses..?

[Pooky]

No, they already tried that. I think what I said is that it would be a better game if it stuck to a set of principles and didn't try to please everybody. It might be more popular then too. I'm obviously not the only person who didn't like it, or Halo would still be topping the charts.

CoD is a perfect example of a game that sticks to its principles. CoD doesn't even try to be taken seriously as a game, it's content to sit in casual land and get thrown out every year when the new version comes along.

[DarkHalo003]

That's what I found sad: that consumers/players prefer games like CoD.

[Higuy]

I'll go ahead and say it now, H2's flood levels were bar far the scariest things I had ever played at the time.

:p

Halo 1's 343 GS still freaks me out, along with the Library at times... But yeah, Halo 2. High Charity. :ohdear:

[DarkHalo003]

:p

Halo 1's 343 GS still freaks me out, along with the Library at times... But yeah, Halo 2. High Charity. :ohdear:
I found the Library to be very freaky too. I also thought High Charity and Oracle were terrifying for a while. Then I started poking around High Charity. Now it's one of my favorite levels.

[Higuy]

Sentinel Walls or whatever was also really scary. Something about robots and flood both trying to kill you says something. I forgot the ingame level name though.

[DarkHalo003]

Sentinel Walls or whatever was also really scary. Something about robots and flood both trying to kill you says something. I forgot the ingame level name though.
Sacred Icon and Quarantine Zone. And yes, both of them were very creepy. The music still gives me chills.

[Champ]

Im pretty sure that Modern Warfare 2 dominated Halo 3 from the day it was released.
Well it also came out 2 years after Halo 3 did.

[t3h m00kz]

I don't think it's a case of halo sucking any more as much as it is other franchises making their ways up!

But what do I know, I don't have a 50 in H3!

[Pooky]

Well, Halo 3 isn't the same as Reach. And I'd buy that if Reach wasn't getting beaten by every CoD to come out in the last 3 years.

[Bobblehob]

Well, Halo 3 isn't the same as Reach. And I'd buy that if Reach wasn't getting beaten by every CoD to come out in the last 3 years.

Every game that has come out in the last 3 years is being beaten by CoD games. Reach had a larger player base online for months after it came out than any of the CoD games, same with H3. But, as their respective popularities slowly dwindled, and the new CoD game was released, be it MW3 or MW2, more players moved to the new CoD, it really has no bearing on just how good each game is comparatively.

[Pooky]

You do realize MW2 is older than Reach right?

[DarkHalo003]

You do realize MW2 is older than Reach right?
He does have a point though. Halo Reach isn't the only XBL game to be beaten by CoD, which is something to take into account. If Halo 3 was so perfect, then why isn't it still competing with MW2? From last I heard, MW2 isn't really supported or changed much anymore, kind of like Halo 3.

[Bobblehob]

You do realize MW2 is older than Reach right?

Reach is an older game than BF3, yet its 360 Online population is higher :P Same deal, in the end it really isn't relevant whether one is older than the other.

[Pooky]

Reach is an older game than BF3, yet its 360 Online population is higher :P Same deal, in the end it really isn't relevant whether one is older than the other.

BF3 seems to mainly be a big deal on PC though. Reach's player base isn't split between multiple platforms. I get what you're saying though.


He does have a point though. Halo Reach isn't the only XBL game to be beaten by CoD, which is something to take into account. If Halo 3 was so perfect, then why isn't it still competing with MW2? From last I heard, MW2 isn't really supported or changed much anymore, kind of like Halo 3.

Um, I never said Halo 3 was perfect, not even slightly

It has its flaws but I still find it an enjoyable game.

[DarkHalo003]

Um, I never said Halo 3 was perfect, not even slightly

It has its flaws but I still find it an enjoyable game.
The point is that if traditional Halo would achieve top ranking on XBL, then why isn't it doing that right now? Of course you could say it's because of Halo Reach being the newer game, but isn't this concept disproved by CoD's example?

[Pooky]

The point is that if traditional Halo would achieve top ranking on XBL, then why isn't it doing that right now?

Well, first of all I didn't say traditional Halo. I said a Halo that doesn't try to please everyone.


Of course you could say it's because of Halo Reach being the newer game, but isn't this concept disproved by CoD's example?

Casual players don't care about good gameplay, they just want to play with their friends. That means playing the latest release. And new players don't know or care about the older games. As for CoD, it doesn't disprove anything. It just shows how vastly more popular the CoD series is than Halo right now.

[Bobblehob]

The thing is that CoD is vastly more popular than any game, including Halo. It always has a higher player base, excluding the times right after a release. That fact though really has no bearing on the actual quality of the game itself, especially compared to Halo.

[nuttyyayap]

And yet, the most I ever see in REACH (it's been this consistent since 2010) is 100,000 at most, and less than 1000 at minimum.
And when H3 was popular it had more than that for years, and sustained it even after new CoD games came out.
The best answer to this is that Halo's popularity in general is falling, so we'd better hope that 4 isn't a pile of shit. :downs:

[Bobblehob]

And yet, the most I ever see in REACH (it's been this consistent since 2010) is 100,000 at most, and less than 1000 at minimum.
And when H3 was popular it had more than that for years, and sustained it even after new CoD games came out.
The best answer to this is that Halo's popularity in general is falling, so we'd better hope that 4 isn't a pile of shit. :downs:

Actually, this far in H3 had a similar, sometimes smaller daily player count. Reach has around 300K daily, while at this point in its life H3 had between 250 and 300K.

[Hotrod]

Actually, this far in H3 had a similar, sometimes smaller daily player count. Reach has around 300K daily, while at this point in its life H3 had between 250 and 300K.
This. People don't realize that Halo 3's player counter was the daily amount of player and not the real-time counter we have in Reach.

Also, I have never seen Reach be at less than 1000 players... The lowest it goes nowadays is around 40 000 players online, but that's at around 2am or in the middle of a weekday.

[Kornman00]

The lowest it goes nowadays is around 40 000 players online, but that's at around 2am or in the middle of a weekday.
Where exactly are you getting that number? Bungie doesn't host stats anymore, and I don't recall a global player count in-game. If it's Waypoint, well, I can't stand that sluggish bag of shit.

[Hotrod]

Where exactly are you getting that number? Bungie doesn't host stats anymore, and I don't recall a global player count in-game. If it's Waypoint, well, I can't stand that sluggish bag of shit.
Just judging from the numbers I see when I play the game.

[=sw=warlord]

Where exactly are you getting that number? Bungie doesn't host stats anymore, and I don't recall a global player count in-game. If it's Waypoint, well, I can't stand that sluggish bag of shit.
Shows player count under playlist selection.

[Kornman00]

Shows player count under playlist selection.


... I don't recall a global player count in-game...
.

[=sw=warlord]

.
SELECTION.
you know that bar on the main multiplayer screen.
not the list of playlists but the actual bar denoting which playlist you selected.
L2R

[Kornman00]

SELECTION.
L2R
L2 be descriptive. I can't L2ReadMinds. Especially when they think in schmuck.

Selection implies something, an item of some sort, that you actually select. You don't select the title bar in Reach. It updates based on your selection. There are also two numbers that are displayed within it. The total (ie, global) number of players is on the right, playlist on the left.

Translation to verbose English, from schmuck: "Shows global player count in in the MP title bar, along with the selected playlist's local number".

[DarkHalo003]

Korn, I think they're just going through each section and adding them all together to reach (ha!) the total number of players online.

[Kornman00]

Stating the obvious?

[DarkHalo003]

Stating the obvious?
Intentionally I suppose.

[Bobblehob]

Yay Halo 4

[JackalStomper]

still isn't on pee see

[Hotrod]

still isn't on pee see
And most likely never will be.

[Kornman00]

Fuck that Kony bullshit, Halo 4 PC 2012!

[DarkHalo003]

Fuck that Kony bullshit, Halo 4 PC 2012!
We must rayz awairness.

[Pooky]

Am I the only one who'd settle happily for a H3PC with fully featured editing kit and dedicated servers?

[TeeKup]

Would work for me.

[nuttyyayap]

As long as it actually worked, unlike H2v, I'd be down.

[Amit]

Am I the only one who'd settle happily for a H3PC with fully featured editing kit and dedicated servers?

No.

But we already know that H2V was the last Halo PC game ever, so...

Fuck Microsoft? Imagine they release H3PC once the new Xbox comes out? They won't be fooling anyone, but themselves.

[DarkHalo003]

No.

But we already know that H2V was the last Halo PC game ever, so...

Fuck Microsoft? Imagine they release H3PC once the new Xbox comes out? They won't be fooling anyone, but themselves.
Without MS, we probably wouldn't have the Halo we love and adore today. Regardless, we do have a right to be royally pissed off at them.

[Pooky]

As long as it actually worked, unlike H2v, I'd be down.

Yeah.. I actually tried H2v today because I wanted to play some Halo 2 online. No native widescreen support, custom resolutions give you vert- and weird distortion. Mouse control barely works, even on 10 it feels horribly slow and jittery. And even with vsync I was somehow getting tearing. Fuck that game.

[TVTyrant]

Yeah.. I actually tried H2v today because I wanted to play some Halo 2 online. No native widescreen support, custom resolutions give you vert- and weird distortion. Mouse control barely works, even on 10 it feels horribly slow and jittery. And even with vsync I was somehow getting tearing. Fuck that game.
I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago. The campaign works fine on my bros gaming Pc doe

[Pooky]

I don't recall it being so shitty when I played it on XP, which is painfully ironic.

[TVTyrant]

I don't recall it being so shitty when I played it on XP, which is painfully ironic.
This.

Rather sad, isn't it?

[Kornman00]

Without Bungie, we probably wouldn't have the Halo we love and adore today. Regardless, we do have a right to be royally pissed off at them.
ftfy. They're the ones who promised (and kept it) Halo for the PC and Mac. Without Gearbox, we wouldn't have the Halo modding we love and adore today.

It's MS fault for the way H2V turned out. So without MS, we'd probably have a better Halo (2, sans "Vista").

Also, it would probably be easier for them to engineer the Halo 4 codebase for PC titles than to port Halo 3.

[DarkHalo003]

ftfy. They're the ones who promised (and kept it) Halo for the PC and Mac. Without Gearbox, we wouldn't have the Halo modding we love and adore today.

It's MS fault for the way H2V turned out. So without MS, we'd probably have a better Halo (2, sans "Vista").

Also, it would probably be easier for them to engineer the Halo 4 codebase for PC titles than to port Halo 3.
You're forgetting that Halo wouldn't have been what it was if MS hadn't bought Bungie from Mac. I don't even want to think about what would have happened if Mac still had control of Bungie....

You're very right though.

[=sw=warlord]

You're forgetting that Halo wouldn't have been what it was if MS hadn't bought Bungie from Mac. I don't even want to think about what would have happened if Mac still had control of Bungie....

You're very right though.
Apple probably would have got into gaming and the Ipod/Iphone/Ishit probably would never have been thought off because Apple would be too busy buying developers everywhere to develop games for their platform.
Think Activision but on a Apple scale with Ubisoft style DRM.

[TVTyrant]

Apple probably would have got into gaming and the Ipod/Iphone/Ishit probably would never have been thought off because Apple would be too busy buying developers everywhere to develop games for their platform.
Think Activision but on a Apple scale with Ubisoft style DRM.
So... Horrifying...

[DarkHalo003]

These reasons are why I don't hate on MS too much, even if I massively disagree with a lot of their choices. I have an Xbox, so I can play Halo, and after several years of branching out to different games, it's alright to me if there is never a new HEK.

[=sw=warlord]

So... Horrifying...
Just think, if Halo hadn't left mac to come onto the xbox and massively helped lift its reputation, Apple would have ended up buying bungie, after realizing the profit they could make they'd have made a games console.
IGame 4S

[Kornman00]

You're forgetting that Halo wouldn't have been what it was if MS hadn't bought Bungie from Mac.
Halo was never Mac-only. It was going to be for both the PC and Mac before MS stepped in.

[Bobblehob]

Since when? I'm pretty sure they said at the E3 Demo that it was specifically for MAC

[Tnnaas]

I think the original plan was to make a badass FPS on platforms. Microsoft came in and said, "Hey, your game looks cool. Why don't you risk everything and put it on our not-even-finished console instead?"

[=sw=warlord]

Actually.
Bungie was in financial trouble and they approached Apple first looking for someone to buy the company.
Apple initially declined the offer and microsoft caught wind of it.
If you want to point fingers, look no further than the massive recall Bungie had to do because several thousand discs had a glitch and downloadable patches weren't very common then.

[DarkHalo003]

Marathon was such an awesome series (is?) and that's why Apple was originally interested in them. I'm not sure why Apple didn't pursue buying Bungie, but I'm really glad MS did simply because it's led to my favorite gaming franchise to date.

[Kornman00]

Since when? I'm pretty sure they said at the E3 Demo that it was specifically for MAC
Since way back when it was still an RTS. It's been mentioned a couple times before, including in a tweet by MartyTheElder, where he was 'amazed' by how many people still thought it was suppose to just be for the Mac (when they've stated otherwise before).

[Kornman00]

Does anyone here actually miss the clan system from Halo2?

[t3h m00kz]

never used it really. the only clan I was a part of was I never got past peon in because the leader was some d-bag wanting mindless followers, hugboxes and asspats.


Marathon was such an awesome series (is?) and that's why Apple was originally interested in them. I'm not sure why Apple didn't pursue buying Bungie, but I'm really glad MS did simply because it's led to my favorite gaming franchise to date.

Yeah unfortunately for bungie that also meant they were microsoft's bitch for years with limited freedom as developers. I'm glad that they've broken off, now we might see some new, interesting franchises

[DarkHalo003]

The only major part of the clan system I miss is that there was always someone online to play custom games with and it was a hyper extended friends list. I also loved how clans were always dogging each other.

I can't wait to see what Bungie does next. It's my dream to work there (has been since the Halo 3 Beta) and I've been a relatively honest fan of their games now that I've played most of them (still want to play Pathways, Operation Desert Storm, and ONI one day). I've always felt that Bungie has great environments that just need expansion in some of their games, so as someone who is trying to be an environment artist/level designer I want to try and help that one day if they still haven't accomplished perfecting the satisfaction of a level's environment. For example, as of Halo Reach they are better about creating more expansive environments, but the problem is that they lack substance in these environments and levels, like there is a lot of wasted space. I am also little questioning regarding the new game being an MMO (not a big fan of MMO games), but heck maybe it'll be another series I end up loving.

[Ifafudafi]

psst
(have a look at the middle)

http://i.imgur.com/bJpvf.jpg

source (http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2012/05/two-new-halo-4-enemies-crawler-and.html)

[Hotrod]

The second one kind of looks like a Sentinel in a way, sort of.

[thehoodedsmack]

What is a SPARTAN Soldier, and more importantly, why does it look like Cobra Commander?

http://www.deviantart.com/download/93134117/Cobra_Commander_by_DigitalSerrano.jpg

[Delta4907]

Box art:
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17mn5jxh3qyq7jpg/original.jpg

[DarkHalo003]

If that Boxart is legit, it equates to awesome.

Still, I can't for till this game is released. It'll be nice to have some Halo again.

[Delta4907]

It is legit. Here's (http://i.imgur.com/Bo6Im.jpg) a larger version

[DarkHalo003]

Source?

[Hotrod]

Source?
Sauce :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37869368&postcount=607

[Higuy]

Looks cool but also looks practically like the same exact thing they've shown a million times, lol. I really wonder when they'll actually start showing actual information like story.

[JackalStomper]

MC and some covenant get sucked into a giant forerunner space vacuum cleaner and they need to fight their way out.

[BobtheGreatII]

And Cortana is cranky the whole time.

[Kornman00]

ITG: Cortana goes thru puberty.

[DarkHalo003]

Sauce :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37869368&postcount=607
SAUCEM.


MC and some covenant get sucked into a giant forerunner space vacuum cleaner and they need to fight their way out.
Laughing hard.

[TVTyrant]

Well fuck my ass and call me Suzy

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/723842/halo-4-limited-edition-revealed-includes-war-games-map-pack-and-special-edition-of-forward-unto-dawn/?cmpid=sn-110418-facebook-28-fbfantrack

[Hotrod]

Want. There goes 113$ out of my wallet.

[BobtheGreatII]

90 Minute live action movie you say?

http://www.memes.at/pics/pirate.png

*in all seriousness, that's kind of cool. I'm a little weirded out about all the in-game bonuses, but whatever, if I have the cash I'll get it.

[Masterz1337]

This game is going to probably end up being either really good, or really bad. I really like the H3 vibe of the MP gameplay, and I think it's time they mix things up. I'm sure the ideas they have are solid, but like Reach it's going to be all about the execution.

[EX12693]

Um... Want.

[Guardian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldzZCZYa4d8&feature=player_embedded

So sounds like at some stage MC will be fighting with other Spartans.

[EX12693]

Uh.. where did they say that?

[Hotrod]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldzZCZYa4d8&feature=player_embedded

So sounds like at some stage MC will be fighting with other Spartans.
It said that he'd be seeing some and interacting with them, not that he'd be fighting them.

[Tnnaas]

So sounds like at some stage MC will be fighting with other Spartans.
*ahem*

Not against.

[DarkHalo003]

*MC walks into UNSC room and sees SpartanIVs*

MC: Well this is bullshit.

*Leaves*

[Tnnaas]

I wonder what they are going to do with Sergeant Johnson's mustache this ti- ohwait.

[EX12693]

I wonder what they are going to do with Sergeant Johnson's mustache this ti- ohwait.:smith:

[Siliconmaster]

Dammit, you made me sad now...

[TVTyrant]

Dammit, you made me sad now...
.

[DarkHalo003]

Why would you remind us of this? :saddowns:

[JackalStomper]

He comes back to life.

Just like he did like 5 times in halo 1...

[Zeph]

Is it just me or did it seem like the Halo4 MP was a stupidly slowed down twitch arena shooter?

[DarkHalo003]

Is it just me or did it seem like the Halo4 MP was a stupidly slowed down twitch arena shooter?
Not sure what you mean here. The game hasn't even been released yet....unless you mean Reach.

[Hotrod]

The multiplayer looks great if you ask me...

[Higuy]

You can hardly judge the multiplayer with the stuff shown in that video. Also laughing my ass off with the name of the planet being Requiem... Sel would know why

[DarkHalo003]

Holy shit gotta call 343i and tell them they can't call it Requiem.

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

Old news, but wasn't posted here: http://gamingbolt.com/metroid-killzone-designers-working-on-halo-4

[DarkHalo003]

I heard about that (saw info on it) and I'm hoping that means more interactive and explorative environments.

[Kornman00]

In Halo4, dispensers need you there.

[Spartan094]

I wonder what they are going to do with Sergeant Johnson's mustache this ti- ohwait.
I lol'd

[Cortexian]

Holy shit gotta call 343i and tell them they can't call it Requiem.
Yeah since all maps compiled for Halo CE are the property of Microsoft/GBX/Bungie or something.

I'm sure it matters.

[=sw=warlord]

Yeah since all maps compiled for Halo CE are the property of Microsoft/GBX/Bungie or something.

I'm sure it matters.
Only the code is theirs, IP is not unless defined before such as Halo content already existing.

[DarkHalo003]

Yeah since all maps compiled for Halo CE are the property of Microsoft/GBX/Bungie or something.

I'm sure it matters.
I was being completely sarcastic and facetious. -_-

[itszutak]

So it looks like there's preorder-exclusive(?) armor if you buy from certain stores
(pictures in link)
http://halo4nation.com/multiplayer/halo-4-armor-skin/

I'm just going to leave it at that

edit: oh damnit I can't seem to get rid of that damn thumbnail

[BobtheGreatII]

That's horrid.

[TVTyrant]

Thats disgusting looking :barf:

[DarkHalo003]

I think that armor is okay....if you like shit.

[Hotrod]

I love the armour shown there (which isn't part of the pre-order exclusive), but the camo doesn't interest me too much. I love Best Buy's pre-order bonus skin though!

Here's a list of different bonuses : http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst85439_All-pre-order-bonuses---Compilation-thread.aspx

Keep in mind that the armour permutations aren't a part of the bonuses for any of them.

[TeeKup]

Those are god-awful....

[=sw=warlord]

Those are god-awful....
I'm surprised you don't like those.
Given how much you like Gundam.

[itszutak]

On the plus side it means I don't feel like missing out if I don't preorder

[TeeKup]

I'm surprised you don't like those.
Given how much you like Gundam.

They look NOTHING akin to Gundam or the sort.

[FRain]

That looks BAD. Straight up BAD.

[TVTyrant]

On the plus side it means I don't feel like missing out if I don't preorder
my thoughts exactly

[itszutak]

They look NOTHING akin to Gundam or the sort.

On the other hand, if you squint and cross your eyes they /kinda/ look like eva, but that might just be the color schemes and smooth lines. I'm really not seeing the resemblance to gundams either

[EX12693]

Do not want.
I never expected this. But.. Do. Not. Want.

[Bobblehob]

Good god, you guys make it sound as if you are required to use these camo skins, they are available to people who want them, stop bitchin.

[EX12693]

Its not the skins.... its the armor itself. It's fugly.

[Bobblehob]

Its not the skins.... its the armor itself. It's fugly.

Its different, how dare they give you different options for your armor :P

[Caboos001]

So it looks like there's preorder-exclusive(?) armor if you buy from certain stores
(pictures in link)
http://halo4nation.com/multiplayer/halo-4-armor-skin/

I'm just going to leave it at that

edit: oh damnit I can't seem to get rid of that damn thumbnail

Dat ass, it's so, square...

[Hotrod]

Its not the skins.... its the armor itself. It's fugly.
Well they haven't shown all the options yet, there's bound to be at least one that you like.

[EX12693]

The only non-standard helmet I've ever really liked is the EOD one..

[Kornman00]

ITT/ITG: shitty armor with shitty skins.

[Bobblehob]

ITT whiny people

[Cortexian]

ITT: ITT

[TVTyrant]

ITT: ITT
ITT: ITT: ITT

ITT: ITT: ITT

ITT: ITT: ITT

[=sw=warlord]

ITT whiny people
Look whose talking.
Sir-Bitch-Alot himself.

[TVTyrant]

Look whose talking.
Sir-Bitch-Alot himself.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RaLfbHPcnT4/TgIm9r2z5KI/AAAAAAAAAqg/XkZ3HmSPt5M/s1600/big-bang-theory-s4e3-zazzy-substitution-06.jpg

[Kornman00]

Kitties

ITT

[TVTyrant]

Kitties

ITT
Kitties

Kitties

ITT

[TVTyrant]

Kitties

ITT
Korny, sing soft kitty to me

[Hotrod]

What does ITT mean anyway?

[TVTyrant]

ITT: People who don't know what ITT means

[Hotrod]

:(

EDIT : ITT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT ITT MEANS, BITCHES!!!

[TVTyrant]

:(

EDIT : ITT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT ITT MEANS, BITCHES!!!
ITT: People with Dalek avatars

[EX12693]

ITT: TVT

[TVTyrant]

ITT: TVT
ITT: People who talk to TVT

[Hotrod]

ITT: People with Dalek avatars
ITT : People who will be EXTERMINATED!

[TVTyrant]

ITT : People who will be EXTERMINATED!
ITT: I have too much time on my hands

[Hotrod]

ITT: I have too much time on my hands
In other words, ITT : me

[TVTyrant]

ITT: you

[Bobblehob]

Look whose talking.
Sir-Bitch-Alot himself.

ITT Everyone bitches :3

[TVTyrant]

ITT Everyone bitches :3
ITT: Bobble comes late to the ITT party

[Kornman00]

sIp77PUvLTE&autoplay=1
Soft Titty, Warm Titty, I Like Squeezing Her. Happy Titty, Sleepy Titty, Grr, Grr, Grr.

[TVTyrant]

fuck I love that show

[ODX]

What the fuck is going on here? Shit what a fucking waste of a page seriously what the fuck.

Here, have a shitty VHS recording of Halo 4 (there's honestly nothing to see, just some BR and such):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPhhb1gidPg

Personally, I'm sticking my middle finger up at 343i. Actually, I'm sticking up two. You know what, fuck it: I grew a third one and stuck that one up too.
I don't even need to say the reason. It's the same one I always have. Seriously, this reuse of shit needs to stop. Grow the fuck up and make your own animations god damn it fuck this game screw it fuck everyone go to hell die die die die die shit shit shit damn it fucking rabbit food piss monkey shoe.

[Zeph]

This is looking more and more like a game you wait to buy when it's 20 bucks.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPhhb1gidPg&feature=plcp

[ThePlague]

:|

[JackalStomper]

That video is horrible

[EX12693]

That song better be in the game!1!!

[itszutak]

can't see shit but the animations might be placeholders from reach, I know many of the halo 3 leaks had halo 2 FP arms for the longest time

But seriously, I can't see shit in those videos, and I don't have headphones to listen to whatever the guys are saying

[JackalStomper]

they say stuff? I muted it when the terrible music started to play

[Kornman00]

It's (shitty) footage of an alpha build. Chillax.

The armor, though, go ahead and rip 343i a new one for that crap shit poo turd.

Feces.

[=sw=warlord]

What's the bets this will be the new Tom Morello?

[Limited]

Why the heck does all the leakers have the worst capturing abilities in the world? Same with UFO 'sightings', its always some nutter with the worst camera invented.

[DarkHalo003]

Why the heck does all the leakers have the worst capturing abilities in the world? Same with UFO 'sightings', its always some nutter with the worst camera invented.
Because it's obviously fake....or old.

[ODX]

It's not fake because the BR is clearly Halo 4's and the map looks like Warhouse, but I wouldn't voice my doubts on it being old. I pray it is.

[Bobblehob]

Please enlighten me as to what is so awful about the gameplay shown in the video, what little is actually visible of it that is. Apparently I missed something :\

Its pretty abvious that the animations that are the same as reach are placeholders, I mean when we got those RvB videos talking about the release day they still had the Reach shotgun in as a placeholder :P

[itszutak]

So yep

callodooty style loadouts are in

http://imgur.com/5xEIi,yCTCm,z5Vj5,AlYH8,Yy1QB,Nn7xz,y5P98,9wpCz

So are a bunch of other things, like turrets (?)

It feels sort of like halo 4's doing a lot of imitation rather than innovation, but perhaps they still have something up their sleeves. The skybox looks pretty, at least.

[Hotrod]

Damn, this game is looking better and better the more I see it!

[Kornman00]

Yeah man, they're really pushing the N64 to its limits!

[TVTyrant]

Yeah man, they're really pushing the N64 to its limits!
Do I need the booster to make this game work?

[DarkHalo003]

I liked Loadouts, but only because I felt the standard Halo gameplay was getting very stale, which is why I hardly played HPC multiplayer after Halo3. Loadouts aren't bad, it's just a lot of Reach's maps sucked.

[EX12693]

I'm interested in the new weapons and vehicles and other tech they'll be putting in. That's pretty much it.

[Cortexian]

Do I need the booster to make this game work?
Shit man, I forgot about those... Can't believe the think only had 4MB of internal memory at the time. Pretty sure that was even low for computer standards back then!

[nuttyyayap]

Eh, that ain't too bad, compared to the GameBoy anyway. With it's silly 4-bit sound and it's monotone screen and it's 8-bit circuit board and it's...

[BobtheGreatII]

Shit man, I forgot about those... Can't believe the think only had 4MB of internal memory at the time. Pretty sure that was even low for computer standards back then!

PC gaming supremecy. :realsmug:

[Kornman00]

Durango supremecy~~

[MXC]

Dodongo supremacy:realsmug:

[TVTyrant]

Something with a D supremacy :smugoff:

[DarkHalo003]

Disentary supremacy.....

:smith:

[Pooky]

I liked Loadouts, but only because I felt the standard Halo gameplay was getting very stale, which is why I hardly played HPC multiplayer after Halo3. Loadouts aren't bad, it's just a lot of Reach's maps sucked.

I would have liked loadouts better if they focused less on stupid armor abilities like jetpack, and more on giving players a variety of weapons to start with. It would be nice to see some regular Shotgun on Shotgun combat for the first time since Halo 1.

[DarkHalo003]

I would have liked loadouts better if they focused less on stupid armor abilities like jetpack, and more on giving players a variety of weapons to start with. It would be nice to see some regular Shotgun on Shotgun combat for the first time since Halo 1.
I thought this happened a lot in Reach. Maybe because I wasn't playing Arena games that usually this happened on a regular basis.

I still stand to say that Reach's best gametype has to be Invasion.

[Hotrod]

Well rumours have it that the jetpack is more of a jump pack this time around, giving the player the ability to perform a double jump rather than fly around.

[DarkHalo003]

Well rumours have it that the jetpack is more of a jump pack this time around, giving the player the ability to perform a double jump rather than fly around.
Hmm, I think that'd actually be a pretty cool feature.

[ODX]

So it'll behave like how the enemies use their jetpacks? (like the Brute's near the end of Crow's Nest in Halo 3 or the Elites that show up after that one jammer in New Alexandria)

Because that would be awesome. And a whole lot better than the stupid shit it is now.

[DarkHalo003]

So it'll behave like how the enemies use their jetpacks? (like the Brute's near the end of Crow's Nest in Halo 3 or the Elites that show up after that one jammer in New Alexandria)

Because that would be awesome. And a whole lot better than the stupid shit it is now.
I remember how in the Beta the Jetpack actually required skill to use. I'm not sure what changed. Maybe the amount of flying time was increased. Either way, I hope the Jetpack is more of like the rumors say simply because Jetpackers tend to die a LOT faster, which kind of cruds up gameplay more than helps it.

[Pooky]

The problem with the jetpack is that being suddenly attacked from above in a console FPS simply isn't very fun. Controllers aren't good at vertical gameplay. If the game was on PC, my opinion might be different.

[DarkHalo003]

The problem with the jetpack is that being suddenly attacked from above in a console FPS simply isn't very fun. Controllers aren't good at vertical gameplay. If the game was on PC, my opinion might be different.
It is fun to take them down with the Pistol even when they got the jump though.lol.

[Pooky]

It is, but to be fair that's only because most of them are idiots that just spray you with the Assault Rifle. If they got the drop on you with the Pistol and actually had good aim, you'd be dead before you could do anything.

[BobtheGreatII]

I have the strangest feeling that we'll be hearing more about Halo 4 at E3...

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17odky3spyar6jpg/original.jpg

[DarkHalo003]

Ballin'.

[neuro]

Durango supremecy~~

THAT NAME!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!?!

as soon as my boss told me that they called that shit 'durango' i called bullshit on his ass.

[Zeph]

Well, with MS no longer with Bungie as their lapdog, they've gotta build hype somehow.

and what's wrong with Durango?

[Kornman00]

Pretty sure that's just the internal name, like Xenon is for the 360.

[neuro]

yeah im convinced of the same thing.

[Limited]

yeah im convinced of the same thing.

It was confirmed ages ago that the dev name is Durango, I'm happy its called that, because it means that will NOT be the release name :D

Who thinks it might be Xbox 720?

[DarkHalo003]

If it's Xbox 720. :fail:

[JackalStomper]

It needs to be something catchy and phresh and phat and whatever the fuck marketing thinks it needs to be like they did with xbox -> xbox 360

Maybe they'll pull a hipster and name it the Ybox

[ODX]

Xbox 360^2 ----> Xbox 129,600

But yes, where were we? Yes, jetpacks. They're dumb. Fix them.

Can't wait for E3 and hopefully some Halo 4 campaign, yippee.

[Limited]

Can't wait for E3 and hopefully some Halo 4 campaign, yippee.
I dunno if this (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-e3-2012/730801)link has been posted before but, Halo 4 campaign footage is a certainty.

[ODX]

Ah, thanks for that I hadn't actually bothered to look yet. Should be awesome.

[Bobblehob]

My feeling is that we will probably see the campaign sequence that Gameinformer Magazine got the preview of back before they wrote their article. A few minute long firefight inside the Forward Unto Dawn, as well as some sort of Multiplayer preview footage as well. Hopefully they will also show off more character models and such, Im curious as to where they are going with other designs we haven't seen yet.

[Hotrod]

Some rumour says that the new Xbox will be called the Xbox 8, you know, to demonstrate how we should all worship Windows 8 and all that.

[DarkHalo003]

Oh God NO.

[Pooky]

Still better than Xbox 720.

[Hotrod]

Still better than Xbox 720.
Ha, not even.

"HAI GUYZ, BAI TEH EKZBAWKZ ATE!!!! WEE SQIPPED AAWL TEH ODAR NUMBARZ CUZ DEY ARE TEH LAEM!"

I'd rather go with 720 any day.

[TVTyrant]

They should call it the GameSphere

[Hotrod]

Or how about the GameCube!

Oh wait...

[JackalStomper]

Xbox 360^2 ----> Xbox 129,600

But yes, where were we? Yes, jetpacks. They're dumb. Fix them.

Can't wait for E3 and hopefully some Halo 4 campaign, yippee.

Xbox³

this would be a hilarious and accurate name.

trendy too

I should work for microshaft

inb4 new xbox looks like a cube

[ODX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-I_NRe7OMY

Shows off the rocket pistol at the end.

[Tnnaas]

Oh god, did I see correctly? They've got kill-cams.

Also, they've been trying to make players feel more super-soldier-y, but they still bring back fall damage. Spartan IVs I know, but fall damage has been out since the Mk VI armor was introduced. Their new armor should still resist 1000-foot falls like the old does in Halo 2 and Halo 3.

[DarkHalo003]

Oh god, did I see correctly? They've got kill-cams.

Also, they've been trying to make players feel more super-soldier-y, but they still bring back fall damage. Spartan IVs I know, but fall damage has been out since the Mk VI armor was introduced. Their new armor should still resist 1000-foot falls like the old does in Halo 2 and Halo 3.
Maybe not that much, but definitely more than whats being presented.

THEY BROUGHT THE VISUALS FOR RETICLE BLOOM BACK FOR THE AR! WOOHOO!!!!

Otherwise, I actually like that gameplay. Personally, I think all Killcams should be in Third Person locations, but whatever.

[Kornman00]

Since the killcams only show the events leading up to your death, I don't really see the problem. Unless you're a flat out camper in which old position intel still applies to you. Deal with it.

Having the killcam track the sticky grenade that stuck and killed you is pretty neat too.

[Pooky]

Maybe not that much, but definitely more than whats being presented.

THEY BROUGHT THE RETICLE BLOOM BACK FOR THE AR! WOOHOO!!!!

Otherwise, I actually like that gameplay. Personally, I think all Killcams should be in Third Person locations, but whatever.

Uh, the AR always had bloom. It just wasn't visually indicated on the reticule.

[DarkHalo003]

Uh, the AR always had bloom. It just wasn't visually indicated on the reticule.
:facepalm:

That's what I meant when I said reticule bloom.

[Hotrod]

I really don't see the problem with killcams. All the kiddies at the Halo Waypoint forums are complaining about it, and their only reasoning behind hating it is due to the fact that there are killcams in Call of Duty.

[nuttyyayap]

I don't really understand what a killcam is meant to be, but it's still funny seeing the kiddies crying because it's used in CoD.

[Jelly]

L1nP2vYO24k

[Bobblehob]

Damn, did anyone by any chance rip that video before Microsoft took it down? :\

[Limited]

Damn, did anyone by any chance rip that video before Microsoft took it down? :\
I'm only assuming it was this video?
qyiTXK14Xcs

Edit speaking of Halo:
UNSC Logo on BBC, hilarious
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[p0lar_bear]

I don't really understand what a killcam is meant to be, but it's still funny seeing the kiddies crying because it's used in CoD.

Ever died out of nowhere and called bullshit/yelled at someone/ragequit in an FPS?

It's supposed to alleviate that by showing you how you died from a different perspective.

Besides the CoD argument, it also has the side effect of giving away a sniper's position (or any camper really), which in Halo kinda happens anyway with the gigantic muzzle flash and contrail, so that's probably why everyone's crying about it.

[Pooky]

Ever died out of nowhere and called bullshit/yelled at someone/ragequit in an FPS?

It's supposed to alleviate that by showing you how you died from a different perspective.

Besides the CoD argument, it also has the side effect of giving away a sniper's position (or any camper really), which in Halo kinda happens anyway with the gigantic muzzle flash and contrail, so that's probably why everyone's crying about it.

Killcam is a great feature for newbies, but it really breaks the flow in serious games. Hopefully Halo will have a 'Hardcore' playlist like CoD does which does away with that kind of stuff.

[Kornman00]

Killcam can be turned off in the game type settings

[Tnnaas]

http://h13.abload.de/img/jtbypzdi9m.png

http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/extra/v.gif

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

Don't get too damn excited. Remember when there was a H3 logo on some directx related thing, and it turned out to be microshaft derping out?

EDIT: You might want to add the source.

EDIT2: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/Halo-4/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d530919

[DarkHalo003]

NB4E3.

(Also, system requirements can mean hard drive space on Xbox360 for installation.)

[ODX]

I was going to post that, but then I looked into it more and yeah it probably just means hard drive space and internet connection speeds, stuff like that.

Also I don't want the killcam because it'll feel too much like CoD. It'll ruin Halo's gameplay a bit because normally I love to watch my ragdoll body fly around and I get to observe everything going on around me. Now that's completely ruined and I can't see if the bastard took my rockets or sniper or something else.

It really does actually matter. I used the death cam for a lot of shit and now it's ruined because I'll have to watch some stupid fuck kill me. Lovely.

[Pooky]

Killcam can be turned off in the game type settings

That's irrelevant in matchmaking though.

[DarkHalo003]

I wonder if they'll make it an option rather than a forced feature. It seems plausible that it just might be one of many options.

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

I think that the best way they could do it is when you die, you get to choose wether/whether/wheter/fuckenglishspelling you watch your ragdoll fly or watch the killcam.

[ODX]

No but honestly, I want to know if he stole my shit or if I can go pick it back up because he was an idiot. I don't care about how he killed me, I want to keep seeing what's going on in the battle and if they make kill-cams mandatory then I can't do that.

Edit: It's "whether"

[ICEE]

I rather like the TF2 way, where you can see what's going on in the battle for about a second, and then the camera zooms in on your killer and does a freeze frame. It's functional because it discourages camping (You immediately know where the guy is), and shows you a bit of battle progress. My favorite thing about it though is the freeze frame itself. I've gotten some hilarious images that way.

[TVTyrant]

I rather like the TF2 way, where you can see what's going on in the battle for about a second, and then the camera zooms in on your killer and does a freeze frame. It's functional because it discourages camping (You immediately know where the guy is), and shows you a bit of battle progress. My favorite thing about it though is the freeze frame itself. I've gotten some hilarious images that way.
TF2 is probably the best shooter out there

Except for the fucking hats

[DarkHalo003]

I thought about contesting that, but then I realized I haven't played any shooters in like four months.

[thehoodedsmack]

I'm not a fan of class-based shooters, but visually, I'd agree it's the best.

[ODX]

Normally I would prefer Halo 3 over TF2, but the community in TF2 is amazing and Halo 3 isn't nearly as active as it used to be.

I would agree with freeze-cams for Halo 4, except that you would just see a typical Spartan doing nothing special (though at times you could get hilarious screenshots). TF2 is hilarious because of the characters, and that makes it much more hilarious.

[itszutak]

QcSBOrG5RW8

Halo 4 announcement-- interesting stuff, shows the new enemies and some forerunner weapons

[ODX]

It looks like Metroid Prime and Halo had a baby.

No really, the "Forerunner" weapons look like they came out of Metroid Prime. Not necessarily a bad thing I guess...

[=sw=warlord]

longer video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-CRrP9xjQ

[t3h m00kz]

the jackals look like turtles

[MXC]

http://i.imgur.com/JVAY1.jpg

Looks fantastic.

[chrisk123999]

Have to hand it to them, the forerunner weapons look really cool.

[itszutak]

the jackals look like turtles

they look about the same to me, just a lot more hunched over-- I'm still kinda upset about yet another elite redesign but it seems like they're not going to be major players anyhow

Other than that game looks pretty neat, probably going to be my xbox purchase of the year regardless

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

"An ancient evil awakens"
Somehow, I think they were intentionally trolling.

[Hotrod]

MOAR VIDEO!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbZ3FlcNGpU&list=UUkdnKrDc4NBUGf2mHe5VpfA& index=1&feature=plcp

[ODX]

You know, no matter how many things I may not be fond of in this game...I think I'll probably still love it.

Edit: I mean fucking seriously those graphics I love them <3

[TeeKup]

What the hell are those things? The remind me of Space Pirates :O.

Some of the new weapons look interesting, lol the Assault Rifle sounds like an AK-47. Gameplay looks pretty solid.

[Gwunty]

We Metroid Prime now.
http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2012/06/04/screen-shot-2012-06-04-at-105348-ampng-f21cde_640w.png

[ICEE]

What the hell are those things? The remind me of Space Pirates :O.

This is exactly what I was thinking. They look pretty cool, just not very original.. I mean elites already looked like space pirates