Warhammer 40,000 SPEHCE MAREEN

[TeeKup]

Game comes out in a few hours, anyone else interested in it?

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In a side note I read this comment while reading Joystiq's preview:

They lost most of mine by adding multiplayer... now I'll wait til it's cheap, instead of day one
I would like to agree with the person who responded.

You're angry because they *added* something? My god, gamers are getting dumber and dumber every day.

Melta Gun looks awesome, FOR THE EMPEROR!

[Kornman00]

Who the hell names their game this? Is this game suppose to be silly like Duke Nukem or Saints Row where you don't take one bit of it seriously?

Also, why are all the SPECHE MAREENS on the ground and not in space?

[nuttyyayap]

Honestly, it doesn't look interesting at all.

[TeeKup]

Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine. Title is a play on retarded dialogue from SoulStorm. This is more or less a fan game.

[neuro]

honestly, play the fucking demo.

i fucking love this game, and i've not had adrenaline pumping from a game for a long time the way i had when playing that demo.
definately want this game, but no money, since i already bought deus ex.

srsly, i recommend this game!!
at least try the demo, it's FREE.

[Cagerrin]

played the demo a week ago, helluva lot of fun. Little details like making the Marines feel fucking heavy and the bolter sounds...

just... if you for some reason hate it, play the demo. Relic are a sort of god.

[TeeKup]

Relic isn't typically known for anything mediocre, so already I had faith in the game. Warhammer 40k is GW's baby, Relic knows how to take care of that baby.

[Hotrod]

I played the Demo and am adoring it. I marched my ass off to EB Games after playing it and pre-ordered the fuck out of the game. And tomorrow I'll walk back there, get the game, walk back here and then play the hell out of it, like a boss.

[JackalStomper]

Now this is a game for ​MEN

[Cagerrin]

Nah, GW are the terrible parents, Relic is the grandparents who always buy stuff and take it to LEGOland.

[TeeKup]

Nah, GW are the terrible parents, Relic is the grandparents who always buy stuff and take it to LEGOland.

Of course, I never said they were good parents, just that it's their baby.


Now this is a game for ​MEN

DAMN STRAIGHT

[Amit]

I play Relic games non-stop. Company of Heroes, mostly, but I play a good bit of Dawn of War 2, DoW 2: Chaos Rising, and DoW 2: Chaos Rising.

Space Marine is definitely on my to-play list.

[Cortexian]

Yeah I played the demo and enjoyed it.

[n00b1n8R]

Who the hell names their game this? Is this game suppose to be silly like Duke Nukem or Saints Row where you don't take one bit of it seriously?

I've read a lot of comments from people saying stuff like this. They're jokes right? There arn't people who havn't heard of 40K and know how many other IP's have stolen heavily from it right?

[Kornman00]

Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine. Title is a play on retarded dialogue from SoulStorm. This is more or less a fan game.
Yeah, I know the OP was playing on the words, I was asking who seriously names a game "Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine".

edit: oh, ok, it's based on some table top game that survived the 1980s. That explains the name.

[Cortexian]

Did you seriously not know what Warhammer / 40k was until that post?

Not sure if trollin'

[n00b1n8R]

Hey korn, thought you'd been on the internet before :S

[thehoodedsmack]

Anyone still have the video where the guy yells "SPEHCE MAREENS!!!"?

[MXC]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2011/08/coverforweak.jpg


Best demo I've played since the Brutal Legend demo, will DEFINITELY pick this up as soon as I can.

[TeeKup]

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Btw, Relic did not make Soul Storm...which is why it was bad.

[Kornman00]

Hey korn, thought you'd been on the internet before :S http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/customavatars/avatar222_62.gif (http://www.modacity.net/forums/member.php?222-n00b1n8R) (http://www.modacity.net/forums/member.php?222-n00b1n8R)

[ejburke]

The last action game Relic made was "The Outfit", which was a 2006 WW2 game that received mediocre scores, so it's not like they have a strong legacy in the space.

[TeeKup]

Hey guys. Game is great.

[Hotrod]

Just played my first game (happened to have TeeKup on my team...kind of sucked hard...), but I'm loving it :D

[TeeKup]

Wait...THAT WAS YOU!? Shit man add my gamertag. I would have kept going but my box froze. We were doing good :P

[Cortexian]

No 4-pack? No sale? No buy.

I'll buy it when it's on sale sometime.

[TeeKup]

Why bother posting if you're going to be a smug douche about it. Thread typically targets people who already bought the game or who are actively interested in it.

[Cortexian]

I'm actively interested in it. Who makes a new release without a 4-pack?

How could this thread have possibly been aimed at people who had already purchased it when it was just released?

[Rainbow Dash]

Hey guys. Game is great.

This post is entirely wrong if the demo is any indication.

The colour palette is our usual brown and gray, the encounters are just masses of the same enemy (maybe one ridiculous big guy enemy too) running at you, at varying levels of unfairness, and just overall entirely uninteresting unless you're one of those weird nerds whose followed it the last 15 years or whatever I guess?

like say

teekup

xd

[Amit]

This post is entirely wrong if the demo is any indication.

The colour palette is our usual brown and gray, the encounters are just masses of the same enemy (maybe one ridiculous big guy enemy too) running at you, at varying levels of unfairness, and just overall entirely uninteresting unless you're one of those weird nerds whose followed it the last 15 years or whatever I guess?

like say

teekup

xd

Don't hate on it just because it doesn't have rainbows.

[Rainbow Dash]

No, no, I'm hating on it because it's shit.

[MXC]

I'm actively interested in it. Who makes a new release without a 4-pack?

How could this thread have possibly been aimed at people who had already purchased it when it was just released?

Aren't 4-packs for co-op games, like Left 4 Dead and Borderlands?

Can't WAIT to try this out come October 3rd.

Sel: Don't rock the boat.

[Cortexian]

This post is entirely wrong if the demo is any indication.

The colour palette is our usual brown and gray, the encounters are just masses of the same enemy (maybe one ridiculous big guy enemy too) running at you, at varying levels of unfairness, and just overall entirely uninteresting unless you're one of those weird nerds whose followed it the last 15 years or whatever I guess?

like say

teekup

xd
I collected a Space Marine and Tau army for awhile when I was younger, still have them but they're terribly painted (14 year old painting). Besides that I played the Dawn of War games, and that's my total experience with the universe. I found this demo to be a fun mash-em-up game, didn't have to sit down and think, just beat the shit out of some orcs.

[TeeKup]

I tried running Necrons a WHILE back. They were fun, but everyone at my local gameshop (with the exception of my friend matt) ran space marines. 2 of the were Ultrasmurfs.

Matt ran Nids, our friend Alex ran Orks. But meh, no one plays anymore.

[MXC]

I collected a Space Marine and Tau army for awhile when I was younger, still have them but they're terribly painted (14 year old painting). Besides that I played the Dawn of War games, and that's my total experience with the universe. I found this demo to be a fun mash-em-up game, didn't have to sit down and think, just beat the shit out of some orcs.


Is the Dawn of War series easy to get into like the early Command & Conquer games, or is it more like a Blizzard RTS where if you're not all that good, there's no point in trying?

I enjoyed the hell out of the DoW II beta(even won my very first online RTS match), but I missed it when it came out.

[TeeKup]

Dawn of War and its expansions were really fun. It was an RTS without the MLG RTSness that is Starcraft.

Though when I get my new computer I expect I'm going to try and get into StarCraft.

[Warsaw]

Dawn of War is easy to get into. The campaigns walk you through enough to pick it up quickly, but not to the point that it gets boring or over-simplified.

[Hotrod]

Both Dawn of War games are very different from one another, but they're both excellent.

Also, started the campaign for Space Marine and I'm really enjoying it so far. It gives you a pretty different experience compared to the multiplayer. Speaking of multiplayer, I started to get better at it and am enjoying it more as I play for longer. Now only if somebody wasn't afk when I joined their party...

[TeeKup]

Trying to get friedmetroid in here. Go ahead and get in mah party, maybe we can get something going.

[Pooky]

Played the bit of the Campaign. Wasn't getting that much into it but then it's late and I'm tired. Maybe it'll get better further in when things get more complicated.

Now the multiplayer on the other hand, I'm really liking. This game just has a really solid feel to it. Everything seems really well balanced, weapons are visceral and satisfying, moving around the map is fun. Only time will tell if anything obnoxiously overpowered crops up. Also, it seems most people playing this game don't understand the concept of evasion, which is something I'm abusing the hell out of. Nothing beats rolling around a corner to evade a charging enemy then popping back out and shooting him in the face.

[TeeKup]

Apparently it's also getting a Free co-op Horde mode DLC come next month, will keep a close eye on that as well. In the meantime, I'll be enjoying multiplayer.

[Amit]

Also, I forgot to mention: PC version optimization is godlike. How they got the game to look so good, but play so smoothly is beyond me. That or Devs are lazy these days and don't put enough effort into optimization of their games.

[Cortexian]

The later, devs don't optimize like they used to.

[RedBaron]

I gotta try this out this week, the release is quite possibly the worse timing ever though.

On a side note, I'm pretty much getting all my roommates into the actual tabletop game hahahaha. Now all my friends are trying to scrounge up insane amounts of cash for the overpriced money dump that is 40k.

[ejburke]

I'll probably play this game a year from now, when it's inhumanely and unceremoniously marked down to $10 in the 2012 Steam Summer Sale.

[Hotrod]

And to everybody who plays multiplayer, make sure to put in your Elite code, or else you'll do like me and be stuck at level 5 for a while and wonder why you're not going up... :/

[Amit]

And to everybody who plays multiplayer, make sure to put in your Elite code, or else you'll do like me and be stuck at level 5 for a while and wonder why you're not going up... :/

What does this "Elite" code do? Is it a way of keeping the multiplayer in pre-played versions of the game free, but undesirable?

[Pooky]

What does this "Elite" code do? Is it a way of keeping the multiplayer in pre-played versions of the game free, but undesirable?

Pretty much.

It's really not that bad though, at level 5 you have all the basic classes as well as the customizer unlocked.

e: Also, to anyone playing this on a console, I strongly recommend mapping melee to a shoulder button. Being able to aim while melee attacking is really important here since there's no fag-lunge.

[MXC]

First thought at the news of character customization:
http://i.imgur.com/ww1DA.jpg

[TeeKup]

Bro you don't even know.

[Hotrod]

Just beat the campaign, was quite happy with it. I really loved how near the end of the game...oh, you'll see :)

[TeeKup]

Beat it too. Gotta say the Thunder Hammer is a godsend in some parts.

[Cortexian]

Is there a list of all the multi-player armor customizations yet? Can I set myself up to like like a Terminator Marine? How about a list of all the single player/multiplayer weapons?

[TeeKup]

Sadly no Terminator Armor.

Mk 8 Errant
Mk 6 Corvus
Mk 4 Maximus
Battle Damaged Mk 7Aquila
Standard Aquila
Relic Power Armor
Veteran Power Armor
Master Crafted Power Armor

You can also get the Ultramarines Champion Armor by beating the campaign. Chaos have a lot too but fuck chaos.

Weapons:
Tactical
Godwyn Pattern Bolter (standard)
Stalker Patter Bolter (sniper)
Bolt Pistol
Plasma Gun
Melta Gun
Vengeance Grenade Launcher
Storm Bolter

Devastator/Havoc
Plasma Cannon
Lascannon
Heavy Bolter
Bolt Pistol

Assault/Raptor
Chain Sword
Power Sword (if you bought Kill Team)
Power Axe/Chain Axe
Thunder Hammer/Great Maul
Bolt Pistol
Plasma Pistol

Plasma pistol has superior accuracy at distance especially with its rate of fire, but not nearly the stopping power of the bolt pistol. Ask pooky, we actively use it as our primary weapon at times, slow concentrated shots can tear off shields, as soon as they're down a single headshot will kill. I've won straight up "duals" with marines using standard bolters (some with kraken ammo).

[Warsaw]

Chaos have a lot too but fuck chaos.


Lol, QFT.

I'mma have to add this game to my list of games to buy.

[Hotrod]

...but fuck chaos.
My 3500 point CSM army would like to have a word with you... :saddowns:

[TeeKup]

FUCK CHAOS, NIDS ALL THE WAY.

[Warsaw]

I prefer the human swarm. Death by flashlight spam never ceases to amuse.

[Hotrod]

FUCK CHAOS, NIDS ALL THE WAY.
NO U!!!! CHAOS AND TAU SUPREMACY!!!


I prefer the human swarm. Death by flashlight spam never ceases to amuse.
Hmm...but guard are very squishy.

[TeeKup]

That's a nice planet you have, we'll take it.
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs39/f/2008/354/a/9/Tyranid_Hive_Ship_by_Zen_Master.jpg

[Warsaw]

Hmm...but guard are very squishy.

Squishy but numerous. Like Flood. We also have armoured caskets tanks.

[n00b1n8R]

fuck chaos.

You're telling me the chaos legions/renegade chapters are less interesting than the imperial chapters?
Bitch please.

[Warsaw]

I find the back-stories very interesting and, for the most part, legitimately tragic. But their shit just ain't as cool.

[Hotrod]

Squishy but numerous. Like Flood. We also have armoured caskets tanks.
Two words : traitor guard

[TeeKup]

You're telling me the chaos legions/renegade chapters are less interesting than the imperial chapters?
Bitch please.

They don't dress nearly as well as the other races. The unequivocal rage tends to throw me off as well. Tragic for Magnus The Red and the Thousand Sons? Yes. Tragic for the Word Bearers and World Eaters? No. Black Legion and Horus himself? Oh definitely.

In fact, if the game offered a Thousand Sons helmet I'd use them, I actually like them a lot. I just can't stand the overly spiky and aggressive "METUL BAWXES" Chaos. Not to say the Space Marines are better, shouting FOR THE EMPEROR every 5 minutes but whatever.

[Warsaw]

Two words : traitor guard

Try-hards; not good enough for the Guard, not good enough for Chaos. Little better than Cultists, considering that the CSMs do all the work. Guard gets work done by itself, and SMs only come in when shit goes down hard.

[Cortexian]

Sadly no Terminator Armor.
Booooo, I want OP armor.

[Amit]

If there was terminator armour, they'd actually have to use some effort to make the teleportation system work, which will also require them to add teleportation to other aspects of the game and...well, it's probably not something they want to touch just yet. Not to mention every fag and their mother would be using it because it looks awesome and teleports people around.

[Hotrod]

Try-hards; not good enough for the Guard, not good enough for Chaos. Little better than Cultists, considering that the CSMs do all the work. Guard gets work done by itself, and SMs only come in when shit goes down hard.
While I agree that IG are pretty badass, but the traitor guard give the CSM access to all those sexy vehicles (Leman Russ, Baneblade, etc).

[Warsaw]

See? No good by themselves.

I think Chaos has some cool shit, but I don't like the way they look. Same goes for Space Marines, too. I'm an IG and Tau fan. Gue'vesa, anybody?

[Hotrod]

Like I said before, Chaos and Tau are awesome (so at least we agree on one thing). Can't wait to start my Tau army and use it with my Chaos army in Apocalypse games....hehehehe

[Cortexian]

If there was terminator armour, they'd actually have to use some effort to make the teleportation system work, which will also require them to add teleportation to other aspects of the game and...well, it's probably not something they want to touch just yet. Not to mention every fag and their mother would be using it because it looks awesome and teleports people around.
It was my impression that there needed to be significant logistics in place in order to deep strike/teleport/whatever it's called.

[Warsaw]

Well, they are specialty troops that are seldom deployed, relatively speaking. So yeah. It wouldn't make much sense to have Terminator Armour in the multiplayer game to begin with.

[Pooky]

Booooo, I want OP armor.

Terminators are slow as fuck, loud, huge targets.


If there was terminator armour, they'd actually have to use some effort to make the teleportation system work, which will also require them to add teleportation to other aspects of the game and...well, it's probably not something they want to touch just yet. Not to mention every fag and their mother would be using it because it looks awesome and teleports people around.

Teleportation wouldn't really be necessary, but at any rate Shadowrun managed to make it work pretty well.


Well, they are specialty troops that are seldom deployed, relatively speaking. So yeah. It wouldn't make much sense to have Terminator Armour in the multiplayer game to begin with.

Personally I would like to see the multiplayer expanded with scouts, terminators, and maybe even dreadnoughts and vehicles. Because it would be awesome.

[Cortexian]

They could do all of that and keep it balanced, because Chaos has their fucked up versions of all of that as well.

[Warsaw]

Wrong type of balance. It's unbalanced because it marginalizes all the other classes, not because it makes the teams lopsided.

[neuro]

Personally I would like to see the multiplayer expanded with scouts, terminators, and maybe even dreadnoughts and vehicles. Because it would be awesome.

i vote we all get together and make this game.

32vs32

[Cortexian]

Wrong type of balance. It's unbalanced because it marginalizes all the other classes, not because it makes the teams lopsided.
I mean if they were to add in the other classes, with specific roles that were actually useful. You wouldn't run into balance issues like you have in Starcraft since Chaos are basically exactly the same as Space Marines.

[TeeKup]

i vote we all get together and make this game.

32vs32

This would be glorious.

[neuro]

WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST
WAITING FOR HOST

THIS GODDAMNSCREEN LOCKS UP YOUR ENTIRE GAME!

I CANT EVEN TELL IT TO STOP WAITING, I WANT A DIFFERENT FUCKING SERVER!
i have to alt-f4 to be able to do anything.

[Amit]

Noise Marines in an FPS game? Oh Jesus.

[Cortexian]

Been playing through the Campaign and I'm really enjoying it...
Just finished the part where Chaos shows up, I totally knew that the weapon would "malfunction" and end up bringing Chaos into the reality as soon as they mentioned that the power core was Warp energy.

The intro cinematic for the Chaos was pretty badass as well, typical Orc leader to not die and then just completely switch sides and start fighting the Chaos Lord for me. I just got to the part where you go down the lift and run into Lt Mira again for the start of Chapter 12.

[neuro]

just finished the campaign.

i swear i've done a final boss EXACTLY like that one before, but i cant remember which game.

also, @ the ending: NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
though i kinda saw it coming and hit be by surprise the same time.

[Hotrod]

just finished the campaign.

i swear i've done a final boss EXACTLY like that one before, but i cant remember which game.

also, @ the ending: NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
though i kinda saw it coming and hit be by surprise the same time.
A part of me wished that Titus would actually turn to Chaos so you'd get to kill Leandros...I hated that guy soooooo much.

And the boss fight reminded me a lot of Force Unleashed since all the boss fights in that game were sort of like that

[n00b1n8R]

Titus was captain of the Ultramarine's 2nd company wasn't he?

What year is this set in because I'm pretty sure that position is taken in 999 M41 :S

[Cortexian]

In regards to my post about Terminator armor, I just read up some lore on the subject. I didn't realize that the armor was so rare and therefore hardly used in the first place. You're more likely to see a Chaos Terminator than a regular ones... Also, a company of 20 or so Terminators apparently charged into the heart of a Tyranid invasion and in doing such eventually ended up killing off all Tyranids on the planet.

Since they're that rare and that badass, I guess I can forgive not letting us play as them.
That said, War Titans are even more rare and we get to see one of those in the game...

[Amit]

The fuck did DoW 2 kill them so easily, though? I mean that I charge them into a group of nids and they get fucked up. Gotta tele them out and let the commander deal with them. Is it because I was on hard mode or some shit?

[Pooky]

In regards to my post about Terminator armor, I just read up some lore on the subject. I didn't realize that the armor was so rare and therefore hardly used in the first place. You're more likely to see a Chaos Terminator than a regular ones... Also, a company of 20 or so Terminators apparently charged into the heart of a Tyranid invasion and in doing such eventually ended up killing off all Tyranids on the planet.

Since they're that rare and that badass, I guess I can forgive not letting us play as them.
That said, War Titans are even more rare and we get to see one of those in the game...

It's multiplayer, things like that don't really apply. Mehreens in actual 40k aren't nearly as overpowered as they are in the fiction. I see no reason why Terminators couldn't be in multiplayer.

[n00b1n8R]

The fuck did DoW 2 kill them so easily, though? I mean that I charge them into a group of nids and they get fucked up. Gotta tele them out and let the commander deal with them. Is it because I was on hard mode or some shit?
It's because if ANYTHING in ANY 40K game was as strong as it is in the law, it would be OP as hell. That's the whole point of the setting.

And it's worth noting that I assume Freelancer was referring to battle of Maccrage. The entire first company of the Ultramarines (1st company = terminator company = the 100 best marines in a chapter equipped in the best armour in the Imperium using the best weapons available to a founding legion) were tasked with holding the southern polar fortress of Maccrage (the Ultramarine homeworld and one of the best fortified and prosperous planets in the entire Imperium) during the assault of Hive Fleet Behemoth (the first Tyranid hive fleet to enter imperial space). They were totally wiped out, the last of their members found dead back to back at the center of the fortress, the corpses of the assaulting nids piled meters high the whole way through.

It took centuries to repair/rebuild their equipment (including almost all the terminator armour the chapter had) and just as long to find a new 100 marines worthy of being part of the 1st company.

You can't have guys that tough in a game. It wouldn't be fun :p

(There were still a few nids left btw.)

[Hotrod]

And to add onto the whole discussion of Terminators in multiplayer, one player in Terminator armour would be either over powered (though a bit slower and less maneuverable) or extremely non-fluff, which would then piss a lot of people off. You could say "Well give them the model/textures of a Terminator but keep the same stats and all of regular marines. Sure, let's give Terminators jump packs, or how about having them roll around like the Tactical Marines? Doesn't work.

If the tabletop game shows anything (which still doesn't follow the lore extremely well in this case), Terminators are extremely tank in both close combat and ranged combat (2+ armour save with 5+ Inv. anyone?). A single squad of 5 Terminators can easily destroy multiple squads of any other type. Hell, I've had two Chaos Terminators completely destroy a Space Marine Tactical Squad on their own once and still lived to take own a few Space Wolves and even managed to kill A Grey Knight Paladin in Terminator armour (who are even more powerful than regular Termies).

[neuro]

A part of me wished that Titus would actually turn to Chaos so you'd get to kill Leandros...I hated that guy soooooo much.

And the boss fight reminded me a lot of Force Unleashed since all the boss fights in that game were sort of like that

yeah man, fuck leandros. i was goign SHOOT HIM IN THE FACE SHOOT HIM IN THE FACE DO IT DO IT NOWWWWWWW..

and yeah, the force unleashed, that was it!

[TeeKup]

I enjoyed it for what it was, really satisfying beating the shit out of Nemeroth's face.

[Pooky]

I don't recall legions of people getting pissed about mehrens not being totally overpowered in 40k, why would they get pissed about terminators being balanced in MP. Nothing about that argument makes sense. They'd be slow moving damage tanks with some cool melee weapons and innacurate ranged weapons and maybe teleportation abilities.

[Cagerrin]

The only way I can see teleport working(at least offhand) is if they counted as having built-in beacon or rapid deployment. Any active teleporting and they're a soak-Raptor that's

constantly behind you
takes fifteen seconds of plasma cannon to kill
carrying a storm bolter and thunder hammer
constantly fucking behind you

(okay, listing that off is just making me wish for a Grey Knights game)

so far this is a blast to play, stalker-pattern/burst fire is hilariously good.

[Pooky]

takes fifteen seconds of plasma cannon to kill

Why would anybody think they would do it like this that makes no sense

[Hotrod]

I don't recall legions of people getting pissed about mehrens not being totally overpowered in 40k, why would they get pissed about terminators being balanced in MP. Nothing about that argument makes sense. They'd be slow moving damage tanks with some cool melee weapons and innacurate ranged weapons and maybe teleportation abilities.
I've seen people bitch about the lascannon "not being the way it is in the lore" and the meltagun not being the same as in DoW2. And those are just small things, imagine Terminators being thrown into there...

In plus, there's already a slow moving damage tank class, being the devastator. Not to mention that the teleportation would just be a better version of jump packs that are used by the Assault/Raptor class, who also are the melee weapon class. Throwing in Terminators would just screw around with everything. The way I see it, the three classes are very well balanced at the moment and all fill separate roles nicely and throwing in Terminators would screw around with that.

[Pooky]

Perhaps, but as part of an expansion of the game into a more "big war" scenario with vehicles and large maps I can see it working pretty well.

[Hotrod]

Yeah, I agree with you on that one since vehicles would a whole new level of power that could balance it out (if done well).

One way that I could see Terminator armour working in the current setup is if there were some sort of VIP gametype (Ã* la Halo 3) where the VIP on each team is wearing a suit of Terminator armour, or if there was a sort of Juggernaut style of game where the Juggernaut was a Termie.

[Warsaw]

Battlefield: 42M41

[Cortexian]

Just finished the Campaign...

Left me with more questions than it answered, was really hoping to learn why Titus could withstand Warp...

[TeeKup]

SEQUEL :iamafag:

[Cortexian]

Don't you mean:
MONEY GRAB

[neuro]

no, a sequel doesnt have to be a moneygrab.

if they release a sequel as the exact same stuff with some new levels *cough CALL OF SHITTY*cough then it's a moneygrab.
i wouldnt call a proper followup in a series a moneygrab.

edit:

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/Neurologicaldisorder/SPEHCE MEHREN/theusual.jpg
always get stuck in games like this.

[Cortexian]

There used to be these things called expansion packs that did exactly what you described. They did it for like $10.

[Warsaw]

There used to be these things called expansion packs that did exactly what you described. They did it for like $10.

Now we get DLCs that do close to nothing for $15. :v:

[TeeKup]

Comment in the games Kotaku review. I lol'd hard.

"Hello, heretics, look at your false gods, now back to me, now back at your false gods, now back to me. Sadly, you aren't me, but if you stopped performing unholy rituals of blood and repented to the divinely benevolent light of the Emperor, you could be purified in death. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re impaled on the chainsword of the man you could find eternal peace from. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s your black, beating heart. Look again, your heart has been purified in flame. Anything is possible when you open your heart to the Emperor and accept his judgement. I’m on a space hulk."

[Amit]

lol

[Cortexian]

Broke down and bought it at full price... :(

[TeeKup]

There's nothing wrong with that, I've had about 3 times more fun in this game than I ever had in reach lol...

[Amit]

There's nothing wrong with that, I've had about 3 times more fun in this game than I ever had in reach lol...

HERETIC

[TeeKup]

I'm not even joking.

[Cortexian]

I didn't really like Reach, the armor customization was about the most fun I had but I wasn't going to deal with unlocking it all. Poopsocking Reach for years isn't my idea of fun.

[neuro]

im just happy they're going to fix the awful lag and REDICULOUS everyones-mic-on-by-default.

[TeeKup]

Can't wait for Exterminatus next month. Going to be really awesome.

[Cortexian]

*Plays multiplayer*

*logs onto forum*

*reads the last two posts here*

*logs out of forum happy that issues will be fixed*

[Hotrod]

im just happy they're going to fix the awful lag and REDICULOUS everyones-mic-on-by-default.
Does that also mean that they'll fix the issue where you'll randomly hear a guy talking on his mic while searching for a game?

[neuro]

propably

[Cortexian]

See, if they had gone with dedicated servers then there wouldn't be this stupid host migration bullshit.

[Amit]

:/ Relic has never used dedicated servers since most of their games already require an internet connection.

[Cortexian]

How does requiring an internet connection effect not having dedicated servers? You make it sound like dedicated servers are for offline use. Since most of their games have required internet connections you'd think that they would have figured out that PC gamers prefer dedicated servers.

Dedicated servers allow for server admins to enforce rulesets on specific servers, they allow you to filter by ping/location, and basically add a whole swackload of ease of use features to the game. Not having dedicated servers makes my gaming experience worse.

Also, I'm really regretting playing the Campaign before buying the game. Now I have to play it again just to get the achievements and armor unlocks...

[Amit]

I should have clarified what I meant. Relic Entertainment used Relic accounts as a way to prevent pirates from playing multiplayer. This prevented pirates who updated to newer version from using the offline sign in hack and then using LAN to play the game. Relic Entertainment develops RTS games, mainly. RTS games don't usually use dedicated servers. So, Relic probably doesn't have the expertise to get the dedicated servers running the way they want. Space Marine is clearly a different genre of game than RTS, but the point is that Relic isn't used to dedicated servers so they won't do it on their first major release of a genre they're not proven in.

[Cortexian]

If a game development company starts development on a game to use dedicated servers instead of a matchmaking system from the get-go it's usually much easier. First off, none of the matchmaking code needs to be created or implemented. You substitute the matchmaking code for server browser and server filtering code which IMO, is easier.

[Amit]

If a game development company starts development on a game to use dedicated servers instead of a matchmaking system from the get-go it's usually much easier. First off, none of the matchmaking code needs to be created or implemented. You substitute the matchmaking code for server browser and server filtering code which IMO, is easier.

Have you done this before? I'm sure it's not a simple substitution of code.

[neuro]

it MORE OR LESS is.

but there's a whole heap of other stuff involved too.

[Amit]

I just finished the campaign. Wow. I'm only lvl 5 in MP so far. I find MP sort of difficult. Sometimes I do well and get a ton of points while raping some people, but most of the time I get raped a lot. What is the secret to being good at this game?!

[Cagerrin]

Plasma Cannon, Iron Halo, Artificer Armour

okay, that's the cheap way. I did pretty well with the Stalker-pattern bolter for a while, it's fairly easy to shotgun with in a pinch. Also practice throwing a flash and rolling out of LoS, hilariously useful against most enemies

[Amit]

I suck so bad with the plasma cannon. Then again, that was before I played the campaign. I spent most of the last 3 days playing campaign and I played MP before that (against my own protocol of playing games: play the SP first if it is available). Had I played the SP first, I would have figured out how ALL of the weapons work. I find the Assault class to be the best for me to get kills with since people sort of shit their pants when you get in close and slice them up. I know Space Marines are all about melee combat, but I prefer ranged combat instead and I usually get raped when using anything that isn't a Stalker Bolter. I can tear some ass with the melta gun since it's basically 2-hit kill, but that only works for close range. I really wish there was even a basic cover system because the only way to take pot shots at a heavily armed enemy is to expose at least half your body to it. It's no so bad when you're aiming right of a piece of cover since the camera places the marine on the left side of the screen, but trying to shoot somebody when aiming left of the cover means your entire body has to be exposed if you want to be able to see your target and not have your shots hit the piece of cover.

[Cagerrin]

plasma cannon works better if you don't charge it, most of the time you can't get away with precharging and the charge time is long enough for anyone to kill you if you're open, also IH/AA is tough enough that I think it takes a pair of lascannon headshots(not completely sure on this). Raptors are fun, but once you start ending up in higher-level games they really start to suck since they're surprisingly easy to counter due to terrible shields. Combat knife is generally superior to chainswords if you bother with stun moves(which nobody does except for the occasional dev)

[Cortexian]

I'm level 31 now.

D: