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Rainbow Dash
May 15th, 2012, 02:48 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/05/15/flaherty-no-bad-job.html


"There is no bad job, the only bad job is not having a job,"

What good is a life if there is no job for that life!!!


The economy's challenge in the future will be finding ways to bring more people into the workforce, he said.
"We are going to have significant labour shortages in this country," he said.

Sounds like fascism :]



"That means we are going to have to encourage more persons with disabilities to work, more seniors to work, more aboriginal people to work, including young people. We need to get rid of disincentives in the employment insurance system to people joining the workforce."



my god, there are no words.

Higuy
May 15th, 2012, 09:07 PM
At least you can look at the bright side though, there trying to give unemployed people an opportunity to make a living again. That last quote is a bit appalling though.

Rainbow Dash
May 15th, 2012, 11:28 PM
At least you can look at the bright side though, there trying to give unemployed people an opportunity to make a living again.

Except, they're not. They're trying to cut benefits and fuck over the jobless even further, so that they're even further inclined to take shitty jobs, that pay close to minimum wage, and are, for the most part, totally pointless, or technically unnecessary :3

DarkHalo003
May 15th, 2012, 11:44 PM
Except, they're not. They're trying to cut benefits and fuck over the jobless even further, so that they're even further inclined to take shitty jobs, that pay close to minimum wage, and are, for the most part, totally pointless, or technically unnecessary :3
Which in turn really does nothing for the economy. Only quality jobs affect the economy. Yeah, services can help speed micro-scale matters along, but in the grand scheme they're really just dividing up "shitty jobs" even further and making them worse. Economies aren't dictated by the quantity of jobs, but by the quality. Even then, most of it's fucked anyways, so you might as well try to avoid these kinds of jobs if you can. If you can't, well, all I can do right now is hope something good happens.

Limited
May 16th, 2012, 10:23 PM
Says the man with the really well paid job.

DarkHalo003
May 16th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Says the man with the really well paid job.
I'm not really well paid. I'm paid above minimum wage ($10 an hour), but my work week is very limited and pay days fluctuate. I just thought that it was common sense that quality is better than quantity, unless you have both. Maybe we should all strive for both.

Limited
May 16th, 2012, 10:44 PM
I'm not really well paid. I'm paid above minimum wage ($10 an hour), but my work week is very limited and pay days fluctuate. I just thought that it was common sense that quality is better than quantity, unless you have both. Maybe we should all strive for both.
Apologies, I meant the Minister guy within the news link.

Roostervier
May 16th, 2012, 11:21 PM
Except, they're not. They're trying to cut benefits and fuck over the jobless even further, so that they're even further inclined to take shitty jobs, that pay close to minimum wage, and are, for the most part, totally pointless, or technically unnecessary :3So wait they're trying to get the unemployed to get jobs and this is bad? Wow man these guys sound pretty fuckin terrible to me! Working for minimum wage when otherwise making zero income sure is fucking god awful, I can't believe the fascist pighead conservatives expect the unemployed to work less than ideal jobs. God damn what's the world fucking coming to these days, jesus. Don't they know the goverment's giving them money? Why the fuck should they have to work for minimum wage?

DarkHalo003
May 17th, 2012, 12:08 AM
I lol'd. And I agree.

Rainbow Dash
May 17th, 2012, 01:26 AM
So wait they're trying to get the unemployed to get jobs and this is bad? Wow man these guys sound pretty fuckin terrible to me!

News flash, wasting the human mind on a mcjob that contributes literally nothing to society (other than degradation of the individual, and society as a whole) is, in fact, a bad thing!



Working for minimum wage when otherwise making zero income sure is fucking god awful

Considering that working minimum wage doesn't even allow employees to meet the poverty line, yeah, that is pretty unacceptable!



Why the fuck should they have to work for minimum wage?

I'm glad you get it!


No, but really, if you don't see the issue with, "hey everyone, move to Alberta or Saskatchewan", or cutting unemployment insurance in an effort to force people into just taking any fucking job out of desperation, then you're fucked mate!

rossmum
May 17th, 2012, 01:55 AM
if they want to get people out of unemployment, then they need to create meaningful, worthwhile jobs. fuck, even shitty jobs that at least contribute something.

Rainbow Dash
May 17th, 2012, 02:19 AM
*claim to care about employment*

*cut thousands of public sector jobs*

DarkHalo003
May 17th, 2012, 02:27 AM
*claim to care about employment*

*cut thousands of public sector jobs*
A lot of these do nothing or close to nothing when it comes down to it. It's a nice thing they're doing by allowing people to do these minimum wage jobs to support themselves (somehow), but it's kind of deceptive considering how these jobs are halfassed in design and in the greater scheme of things.

rossmum
May 17th, 2012, 02:41 AM
on the contrary, they would do a whole lot if they weren't criminally mismanaged. instead of having thousands of assholes sitting behind desks losing paperwork and playing games, have them go fix and maintain infrastructure, or something like that.

TVTyrant
May 17th, 2012, 02:43 AM
They could try building things

Like towers, and cities

And castles for our rich overlords to live in

Rainbow Dash
May 17th, 2012, 11:47 AM
A lot of these do nothing or close to nothing when it comes down to it. It's a nice thing they're doing by allowing people to do these minimum wage jobs to support themselves (somehow), but it's kind of deceptive considering how these jobs are halfassed in design and in the greater scheme of things.

Yeah man, our teachers, firefighters, police, judges (and all their staff), and all the people in Parks Canada, etc do absolutely nothing. Better to re-allocate those workers to burger king, and micky d's.

TVTyrant
May 17th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Yeah man, our teachers, firefighters, police, judges (and all their staff), and all the people in Parks Canada, etc do absolutely nothing. Better to re-allocate those workers to burger king, and micky d's.
lol. best post itt tbh

DarkHalo003
May 17th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Yeah man, our teachers, firefighters, police, judges (and all their staff), and all the people in Parks Canada, etc do absolutely nothing. Better to re-allocate those workers to burger king, and micky d's.
The fuck? I was referring to our bureaucracy and those Ross is talking about. Teachers and those fighting to protect should be payed WAY more than they are.

@Ross: You're correct. It's more or less how the bureaucracy is ran in the U.S.

Roostervier
May 17th, 2012, 12:24 PM
News flash, wasting the human mind on a mcjob that contributes literally nothing to society (other than degradation of the individual, and society as a whole) is, in fact, a bad thing!



Considering that working minimum wage doesn't even allow employees to meet the poverty line, yeah, that is pretty unacceptable!



I'm glad you get it!


No, but really, if you don't see the issue with, "hey everyone, move to Alberta or Saskatchewan", or cutting unemployment insurance in an effort to force people into just taking any fucking job out of desperation, then you're fucked mate!

I'm sure that getting an income that doesn't allow them to even meet the poverty line is better than an income that doesn't exist. If you're unemployed, you've got to do what you've got to do to get food on the table. Btw there are plenty (read: more) of jobs that pay minimum wage that aren't fast food. I work for the city, I make minimum wage. Jesus Christ I can't believe I'm being forced to do this!!! Wait, I'm not, because I need money and I'm not a whiny little bitch that expects money to just be handed to me because I exist. Grow the fuck up and quit depending on other people, children do that.

Rainbow Dash
May 17th, 2012, 12:50 PM
I make minimum wage. Jesus Christ I can't believe I'm being forced to do this!!! Wait, I'm not

except, you are being forced :]



because I need money

see :]

guys I am not forced, I just need the money, because otherwise i will starve to death, but nope not forced, no sir!


and I'm not a whiny little bitch that expects money to just be handed to me because I exist. Grow the fuck up and quit depending on other people, children do that.

Careful, you're projecting irrelevant meaningless information here~

jcap
May 17th, 2012, 12:57 PM
quit depending on other people, children do that.
Oh good so you pointed out a problem with your own logic.

You are a single person. You can take care of yourself. What if you are a single mom of two children who went through a nasty divorce with an abusive husband? You have to pay to house, feed, school, and dress your children, and you need to pay for a daycare service to take care of them while you're working 80 hours per week.

rossmum
May 17th, 2012, 12:58 PM
lol quit depending on other people? quick, someone shut off rooster's electricity, running water, and telephone/internet, only children depend on other people

also ban him from buying food

or doing anything pretty much

rossmum
May 17th, 2012, 01:01 PM
sorry i know that was a really bad and tenuous argument, i just felt like being a facetious asshole

at least my post was less bad than the one it was mocking though i mean holy shit

Jelly
May 17th, 2012, 03:18 PM
sorry i know that was a really bad and tenuous argument, i just felt like being a facetious asshole

at least my post was less bad than the one it was mocking though i mean holy shit

ya i mean w00w

Boba
May 17th, 2012, 07:53 PM
;)

yeah fascism is pretty crap

Roostervier
May 17th, 2012, 07:59 PM
Oh good so you pointed out a problem with your own logic.

You are a single person. You can take care of yourself. What if you are a single mom of two children who went through a nasty divorce with an abusive husband? You have to pay to house, feed, school, and dress your children, and you need to pay for a daycare service to take care of them while you're working 80 hours per week.
So this single mother would be better off unemployed? I don't get your point. She obviously needs a job, and she can't be magically qualified to do something she isn't qualified for. If she has to take a shit job to make ends meet, so be it.


lol quit depending on other people? quick, someone shut off rooster's electricity, running water, and telephone/internet, only children depend on other people

also ban him from buying food

or doing anything pretty much
I'm not depending on anyone. I'm paying someone for a commodity in all of those cases. I could do those things myself, but instead I'm paying someone else to do it. It could be said that the people working at the electric company, the internet provider, and the farmers that grow the food depend on me for their money, but they earned it, so that's kind of fucking stupid--a lot like your post. You really didn't think that out at all, did you?

Rainbow Dash
May 17th, 2012, 08:13 PM
So this single mother would be better off unemployed? I don't get your point. She obviously needs a job, and she can't be magically qualified to do something she isn't qualified for. If she has to take a shit job to make ends meet, so be it.

Yeah man, how dare she think that she should have time to spend with her kids, let's say, raising them, when she doesn't have enough of an imaginary number!



I'm not depending on anyone. I'm paying someone for a commodity in all of those cases. I could do those things myself, but instead I'm paying someone else to do it. It could be said that the people working at the electric company, the internet provider, and the farmers that grow the food depend on me for their money, but they earned it, so that's kind of fucking stupid--a lot like your post. You really didn't think that out at all, did you?

You're still dependent on them whether you're giving them money or not ;)

Roostervier
May 17th, 2012, 08:18 PM
You didn't even argue back, you're just being retarded, lol. Your argument doesn't even seem to be about what was originally posted. No one here is talking about whether the monetary system is right/wrong/or should be in place. Besides, what the fuck are you going to do when you grow up, be a hippie? Have fun squattin' in the mud nigga

Rainbow Dash
May 17th, 2012, 08:35 PM
You didn't even argue back, you're just being retarded, lol. Your argument doesn't even seem to be about what was originally posted.

Except it responded directly to your post. Also I'm not going to waste my time responding to your irrelevant ad hominem tangent~


No one here is talking about whether the monetary system is right/wrong/

You're right, no one is talking about that, so why are you pointing that out?

thehoodedsmack
May 18th, 2012, 07:48 AM
"They should be happy they're making any money at all" is the argument that leads to Chinese-style sweatshops. If a yearly income from a standard 40-hour work-week after tax doesn't put you above the poverty line, you need to seek to fix that.

DarkHalo003
May 18th, 2012, 09:59 AM
"They should be happy they're making any money at all" is the argument that leads to Chinese-style sweatshops. If a yearly income from a standard 40-hour work-week after tax doesn't put you above the poverty line, you need to seek to fix that.
I find myself agreeing with this a good bit.

=sw=warlord
May 18th, 2012, 11:00 AM
I'm not depending on anyone. I'm paying someone for a commodity in all of those cases. I could do those things myself, but instead I'm paying someone else to do it.
Good luck digging the coal out the ground and preparing it to fuel the fire for the generators whilst at the same time keeping tabs on your supply of water whilst still harvesting your crops/livestock for your food and whilst paying all your taxes AND having time to do your daily routine.
You are so dependant on this system that if it were to fail catastrophically you would be over the barrel before you could even realize what's happening.
You may well be paying for a commodity but those commodities are what you require in order to live.

Roostervier
May 18th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Good luck digging the coal out the ground and preparing it to fuel the fire for the generators whilst at the same time keeping tabs on your supply of water whilst still harvesting your crops/livestock for your food and whilst paying all your taxes AND having time to do your daily routine.
You are so dependant on this system that if it were to fail catastrophically you would be over the barrel before you could even realize what's happening.
You may well be paying for a commodity but those commodities are what you require in order to live.I guess it's impossible to build a shelter and hunt for my food or start subsistence farming huh? Funny no one has countered my argument, just picked apart the useless bit I literally added on to the last line.

Look, I shouldn't be getting upset at you guys over your reactions. You're all just the victims of the same people. People like selentic and you all have been duped into thinking that money is the problem. The problem here isn't money, money just streamlined the process of bartering, making everything easier for everybody. The problem here isn't even the banks, that's not going deep enough into the issue. The problem is who the bankers are... the Jew. The jews are crafty, master manipulators and have convinced everyone that money is the problem, not them (the people who control it!!). In 1939, Hitler realized this and tried to put an end to it. He was doing a great job, but other victims like yourselves that actually believed that jews are real people saw what he was doing and thought it was a terrible crime. Quite to the contrary, Hitler was trying to rid us of the Jew's grasp. The jews are so thorough and effective with their propaganda that they turned Hitler into a world wide icon for the human embodiment of evil itself. What they were really doing was keeping you from realizing that they themselves are the "human" embodiment of evil. What better way to hide the fact that you're evil than to point the finger at someone else, calling them evil (it's like if you fart, and then blame someone else for farting... the whole group is going to think it was that other person, rather than you). Hitler was really a hero, and was merely looking out for the world. He knew that the jews were and are treacherous tricksters and knew that not everyone would realize what he was doing at the time was good, but he did what he knew in his heart to be right. This man now demonized as pure evil, was really a hero, the greatest example of a man with integrity ever to live. The jews are who enslave us all, and I was sick of having to dodge around this fact. I know not all of you will believe me, but hopefully I have opened some of your eyes and some day we can rid ourselves of this plague known as the Jew once and for all.

PopeAK49
May 18th, 2012, 04:47 PM
Wow. Just wow. What a terrible opinion.

=sw=warlord
May 18th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Once I read the part about the jews I stopped caring.
You lost all credibility at that point.
Lending and leasing work fine when everyone plays by the rules.
The problem isn't the jews it's the fact people don't play by the rules.

Pooky
May 18th, 2012, 06:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MVEXZ.jpg

Boba
May 18th, 2012, 07:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MVEXZ.jpg

you've never talked to him before, have you?

:v:

DarkHalo003
May 18th, 2012, 07:15 PM
No, it's a fairly obvious troll.

Roostervier
May 18th, 2012, 07:19 PM
I can assure you all I'm serious. I knew a lot of you wouldn't believe me, but I just have to hope someone will... or at least remember it and when you see the truth later on in life everything will all fit into place.

TVTyrant
May 18th, 2012, 07:36 PM
I can assure you all I'm serious. I knew a lot of you wouldn't believe me, but I just have to hope someone will... or at least remember it and when you see the truth later on in life everything will all fit into place.
The truth that you're a nut job? Already occurred to me.

Roostervier
May 18th, 2012, 08:43 PM
The only nut jobs here are the ones that think socialism/and or some shitty slav communist shit is the answer

PopeAK49
May 18th, 2012, 09:03 PM
I can assure you all I'm serious. I knew a lot of you wouldn't believe me, but I just have to hope someone will... or at least remember it and when you see the truth later on in life everything will all fit into place.

No. You see. You are doing it wrong. People say that Hitler was evil, not the Germans. But you are saying that the 'JEWS' are evil. Instead of offending an entire belief by making it sound racist, maybe you should target certain individuals.

Why should I believe such a disgusting opinion? Give me some legit sources before babling like that.

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 05:06 AM
wow sick thread, rooster outs himself as a nazi sympathiser and by doing so totally invalidates his opinion on everything ever

this is fucking great, i need some popcorn

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 05:16 AM
honestly i really hope he's not trolling, i want to believe

because it would just be the most precious thing

=sw=warlord
May 19th, 2012, 05:42 AM
I can assure you all I'm serious. I knew a lot of you wouldn't believe me, but I just have to hope someone will... or at least remember it and when you see the truth later on in life everything will all fit into place.
What are you going to do?
Go on the murder spree killing all the immigrants jews you find in Sweden?
All this while having bleached blonde hair and blue eye contacts.

CN3089
May 19th, 2012, 06:07 AM
Guys, this insane fascist dictator directly responsible for the deaths of tens of millions was actually a great guy, furthermore:

Jelly
May 19th, 2012, 09:50 AM
some good discussion going on herem anyone suggested murdering every jewish person yet? just a thought haha

EX12693
May 19th, 2012, 10:28 AM
stalin was a great guy really

Roostervier
May 19th, 2012, 12:30 PM
wow sick thread, rooster outs himself as a nazi sympathiser and by doing so totally invalidates his opinion on everything ever

this is fucking great, i need some popcornfunny coming from a guy who worships slavs ;)

Amit
May 19th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Somebody save this thread :lmao:

Rainbow Dash
May 19th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Somebody save this thread :lmao:

I ain't touchin this bro.

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 03:37 PM
funny coming from a guy who worships slavs ;)
fuck man i dunno, they didn't run their country into the ground, lose a world war and then kill themselves, so i guess they came out a bit better than hitler and his master race henchmen did if you think about it!!!

oh wait, hitler wasn't what the nazis considered aryan at all

nor were most of the other high profile nazis

well fuck i guess that just makes them a bunch of weird racist sociopaths who are also a bit hypocritical

kind of like you!

Amit
May 19th, 2012, 03:38 PM
I ain't touchin this bro.

I meant archive it, not bring it out of the fail zone lol.

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 03:38 PM
request admins change rooster's username for comedic effect

you'll think of something, i have faith in you

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 03:39 PM
postin from the throne on top of my giant gold hoard

PopeAK49
May 19th, 2012, 03:40 PM
request admins change rooster's username for comedic effect

you'll think of something, i have faith in you

NeoSkinHead101

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 03:51 PM
man i am literally snorting gold dust right now

see, i am of jewish heritage, our large noses are specially adapted specifically for this task

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 03:54 PM
can we just have like a thread where we compile a list of known modacity nazis/fascists/otherwise objectionable people to ostracise please, thanks in advance

rossmum
May 19th, 2012, 04:23 PM
seriously this is vexing me, his post reads like sheer trolling but i also realise neo-nazis are so stupid these are arguments they unironically make with fairly consistent frequency so i am not sure

man i just want this to be real so badly

Jelly
May 19th, 2012, 04:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/P1yjo.png

DarkHalo003
May 19th, 2012, 05:08 PM
I like One Piece.

Pooky
May 20th, 2012, 12:39 AM
I like trains.

TVTyrant
May 20th, 2012, 12:51 AM
I like trains.
Canada should build a new bullet train system

here come the jobs~

DarkHalo003
May 20th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Canada should build a new bullet train system

here come the jobs~
Oh God, that would be HILARIOUS....ly awesome.

TVTyrant
May 20th, 2012, 12:58 AM
Oh God, that would be HILARIOUS....ly awesome.
I know, thats the worst fucking part. It actually makes sense...

America should build one too, and have them link together at multiple points, thus making a massive international public works project.

DarkHalo003
May 20th, 2012, 01:48 AM
America needs to build a lot of cool things that they won't because States are fucking stupid and Congress wastes money on themselves.

PopeAK49
May 20th, 2012, 03:59 AM
Or instead of military, they could invest in explosive turtles...

Roostervier
May 20th, 2012, 09:34 AM
man i am literally snorting gold dust right now

see, i am of jewish heritage, our large noses are specially adapted specifically for this tasknow you're getting the picture

sorry, i was busy getting drunk with my friend, im bakc now