New York & Sandy

[Rosco]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20119631
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20119631)
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2012/10/hurricane_sandy_the_superstorm.html

(http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2012/10/hurricane_sandy_the_superstorm.html)
^ Pictures (thanks Timo for second link)



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20137363
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20137363)
^ Obama declaring major disaster


looks nasty over there D:

[=sw=warlord]

Let me know how it goes day after tomorrow.

[Rainbow Dash]

Atlantic City Under Curfew As Hurricane Sandy Barrels Down On New Jersey

Top comments.

It's illegal to go outside during bad weather? this is one reason the world is laughing at the usa

WagTheDogma 16 hours ago 27

Haha Atlantic City sheeple under police curfew over a little wind and rain.

DerpTwerp 16 hours ago 18

fuck libertarians are stupid loll

[DarkHalo003]

Let me know how it goes day after tomorrow.
I c wut u did thar.

[Limited]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-Obama-declares-major-disaster-New-York-33-people-die-Superstorm.html

C (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-Obama-declares-major-disaster-New-York-33-people-die-Superstorm.html)razy

I had to chuckle a little when I saw this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/30/article-2225108-15C27B46000005DC-535_964x621.jpg

[neuro]

repent unbelievers, allah's wrath is upon thee

[DarkHalo003]

It's obviously a catastrophe orchestrated by the government so Obama will be re-elected.




If any of you have a shard of intelligence you would know that was complete sarcasm. Best of luck to anyone up in the northeast though. I know Higuy is up there, so let's hope he posts within the next few days.

[sleepy1212]

We got snow over night and now it's just rain/sleet and sucky outside (PA).

[Rainbow Dash]

It's obviously a catastrophe orchestrated by the government so Obama will be re-elected.




If any of you have a shard of intelligence you would know that was complete sarcasm. Best of luck to anyone up in the northeast though. I know Higuy is up there, so let's hope he posts within the next few days.

stop mocking us alex jones types!!!! everyone with a shred of sensibility knows that the hurricane was orchestrated by haarp with assistance from the bilderberg group and the new world order to enslave everyone to barack hussein obomba

[thehoodedsmack]

globalists

[DarkHalo003]

stop mocking us alex jones types!!!! everyone with a shred of sensibility knows that the hurricane was orchestrated by haarp with assistance from the bilderberg group and the new world order to enslave everyone to barack hussein obomba
It's like Obama combined with a Black Mamba. How horrifying.

[Rainbow Dash]

globalists

and zionists

[annihilation]

Feel bad for people dealing with the shit weather

west coast is best coast~

[Timo]

Photos: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-after-landfall/100396/

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/sandy103012/s36_68848119.jpg
Damage caused by a fire at Breezy Point is shown in the New York City borough of Queens, on October 30, 2012. The fire destroyed between 80 and 100 houses Monday night in the flooded neighborhood. More than 190 firefighters have contained the six-alarm blaze fire, but they are still fighting some pockets of fire.

[Higuy]

Been without power for a few days, trees all down on the entrance to my nieghborhood, hopefully will have power tonight or tommorow. Pretty cold out too, luckily I split lots of firewood this summer so I'm all good. My piers underwater, same with my community dock, bu fortunately my house is up on a big hill. Only real big damage is my neighbors garage was completely smashed. Hope everyone else is doing good, I heard wall street was underwater though.

[Tnnaas]

http://gamingglimpse.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/crysis3screen4-flooded.png

Even when it's over, it'll still be wet.

[rossmum]

It's obviously a catastrophe orchestrated by the government so Obama will be re-elected.




If any of you have a shard of intelligence you would know that was complete sarcasm. Best of luck to anyone up in the northeast though. I know Higuy is up there, so let's hope he posts within the next few days.
I know this is a joke but people have been saying that exact thing unironically

[Bobblehob]

Man that shit is nothing, they should try living in Florida, where a Category 1 Hurricane like that is nothing more than an excuse to go and play in the rain.

We get shit like Ivan in 2004.

[TeeKup]

Yes please just go say that to the people in New England that are DYING right now Bobble. New England hardly gets storms like these so they're not prepared in the slightest.

[Bobblehob]

Yes please just go say that to the people in New England that are DYING right now Bobble. New England hardly gets storms like these so they're not prepared in the slightest.

Chill out man, Its just an observation, mostly about the media coverage.

[TVTyrant]

I know this is a joke but people have been saying that exact thing unironically
Must spread rep

Also its hitting the biggest blue states sooooooooooo

[Warsaw]

Man that shit is nothing, they should try living in Florida, where a Category 1 Hurricane like that is nothing more than an excuse to go and play in the rain.

We get shit like Ivan in 2004.

I lived in Florida (born there, actually) and I'm old enough to remember Opal...that shit was dangerous as fuck.

[Limited]

Man that shit is nothing, they should try living in Florida, where a Category 1 Hurricane like that is nothing more than an excuse to go and play in the rain.

We get shit like Ivan in 2004.
You of all people should know that its not just a regular Cat 1 Hurricane. 14 foot sea sweals? You also have to take into consideration the type of location that is New York as well as the economic effect is has.

[Bobblehob]

I lived in Florida (born there, actually) and I'm old enough to remember Opal...that shit was dangerous as fuck.

Yeah man, Opal, Erin, Andrew, Ivan, all of them just fucked everything up here xP We were out of school in this area for about a month after Ivan. The barrier island was pretty much completely destroyed, 20+ foot storm surge. No power for over 2 weeks. It was rough...

[=sw=warlord]

Chill out man, Its just an observation, mostly about the media coverage.
Yes and your observations have been as consistent and accurate as a one eyed darts player.

[DarkHalo003]

Must spread rep

Also its hitting the biggest blue states sooooooooooo
THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!


Again, a joke. But it is sad that extremists will go so far.

[MXC]

Friend of mine lives in Baltimore and walked half a mile to buy a pizza, then spent the next hour walking home in 60 mph winds. He saw a stop sign bend over right next to him and a telephone pole snap in two.

Pizza was all soggy, but still good.

[Warsaw]

Yes and your observations have been as consistent and accurate as a one eyed darts player.

Don't make fun of me!

:c

[Rosco]

Friend of mine lives in Baltimore and walked half a mile to buy a pizza, then spent the next hour walking home in 60 mph winds. He saw a stop sign bend over right next to him and a telephone pole snap in two.

Pizza was all soggy, but still good.

The main thing is, the pizza survived

[Higuy]

Friend of mine lives in Baltimore and walked half a mile to buy a pizza, then spent the next hour walking home in 60 mph winds. He saw a stop sign bend over right next to him and a telephone pole snap in two.

Pizza was all soggy, but still good.

sounds about right.
I live on the south river, a river off the Chesapeake. where i live we didn't get a whole lot of flooding, but other parts really did. i was just sitting up stairs in my house looking out and watching my big glass windows just like vibrate and the trees sway back and forth, and could also clearly see the wind pushing the water back up the river and i assume up the bay from the south. There was also a big house under construction across the river from me, and it was all messed up. all in all, this wasnt as bad as the deracho storm (or however you spell it) that we had during the summer, where I was out for literally a week. Got my power back about an hour ago, and all is well. can finally shave, take a shower, and brush my teeth! got school tomorrow though :|

[ODX]

Live near Chicago, we're getting some of the winds as well as the clouds but no rain. Still, amazing how far all this is reaching.

But god damn it, New York City is completely ravaged by this all. Entire East Coast is just...I don't even want to imagine.

[Warsaw]

Generally speaking, it's not anywhere near as bad from PA down.

[Timo]

http://i.imgur.com/p7C8m.jpg
lol.

[Bobblehob]

Yes and your observations have been as consistent and accurate as a one eyed darts player.

Uggh, you really need to get over it man.

[rossmum]

Yes and your observations have been as consistent and accurate as a one eyed darts player.
http://i.imgur.com/wDpcm.gif


Friend of mine lives in Baltimore and walked half a mile to buy a pizza, then spent the next hour walking home in 60 mph winds. He saw a stop sign bend over right next to him and a telephone pole snap in two.

Pizza was all soggy, but still good.
your friend is a man amongst men


Uggh, you really need to get over it man.
it is very hard to get over such terrible experiences in one's life as 'reading bobblehob posts'

[Donut]

Man that shit is nothing, they should try living in Florida, where a Category 1 Hurricane like that is nothing more than an excuse to go and play in the rain.
you do realize entire subway systems are under water in new jersey, right? my girlfriend's entire town is flooded, and her family is separated due to the whole city being shut down. also, refer to the photos of entire burned down neighborhoods. i dont think i would consider that "nothing". i dont mean to get riled up here, but what the fuck. show some respect.

[DarkHalo003]

It's a big deal because the Northeast is very susceptible to flooding and wasn't designed to deal with massive storms like this, unlike most of the housing in the Southeast like Florida and coastal regions. Sandy was also a freak of nature. Imagine if it was a Category 4 Hurricane. Goodbye New York.

[Bobblehob]

you do realize entire subway systems are under water in new jersey, right? my girlfriend's entire town is flooded, and her family is separated due to the whole city being shut down. also, refer to the photos of entire burned down neighborhoods. i dont think i would consider that "nothing". i dont mean to get riled up here, but what the fuck. show some respect.

Why are you taking this so seriously? Did I ever say I didn't respect them? I know what it's like to be in a place hit by a hurricane, where everything around you is destroyed, people are dead, all manner of awful things. It was just a comment, stop overreacting.\

[rossmum]

it was a stupid comment, but that's to be expected i guess, you did post it after all

[Donut]

because you showed this degree of callousness toward the whole situation with "Man that shit is nothing". its like youre telling victims of the storm to suck it up or something. im taking it seriously because people very close to me are homeless right now. like i said, i dont mean to get this worked up. just check your phrasing next time.

[rossmum]

actually never mind phrasing, check your posting

and by 'check' i mean 'stop'

[Bobblehob]

because you showed this degree of callousness toward the whole situation with "Man that shit is nothing". its like youre telling victims of the storm to suck it up or something. im taking it seriously because people very close to me are homeless right now. like i said, i dont mean to get this worked up. just check your phrasing next time.

People on this forum regularly make callous and or generally insulting comments about everything. I didn't mean my comment in that way, if it seemed that way I apologize.

[Bobblehob]

actually never mind phrasing, check your posting

and by 'check' i mean 'stop'

Gonna have to try harder love.

[PopeAK49]

I think the water being cold as ice also factors in. I mean you have hypothermia to worry about in this kind of situation.

[Warsaw]

Imagine if it was a Category 4 Hurricane. Goodbye New York.

Disregarding the well-being of people for a moment, I can't see how that can be considered anything other than an improvement. Can we get rid of D.C., Boston, and Philadelphia while we're at it?

[DarkHalo003]

Disregarding the well-being of people for a moment, I can't see how that can be considered anything other than an improvement. Can we get rid of D.C., Boston, and Philadelphia while we're at it?
Nah because then we'd have to move our capital to some other Economic hub like California. We all know that would be worse, believe it or not.

[Bobblehob]

Oof, that is a frightening thought xP

[Warsaw]

But dem earthquakes mang...

[neuro]

Gonna have to try harder love.

no u

[Rainbow Dash]

itt: most of modacity finally realizes that bobblehob is a fucking moron

[TVTyrant]

itt: most of modacity finally realizes that bobblehob is a fucking moron
or just finally says it out loud

also i haven't seen him on here in like 3 months anyways

[Timo]

Boston's The Big Picture has their photos up: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2012/10/hurricane_sandy_the_superstorm.html

[Warsaw]

Those are some pretty striking images...

[Rosco]

adding them to the first post - also the naming convention has always interested me,

now anyone called sandy is a total bitch

[Amit]

My aunt that wrongly put my uncle in jail last year is named Sandy. We joke that this hurricane is her doing.

[Timo]

http://i.imgur.com/5HF64.jpg

[DarkHalo003]

^That's pretty fucking cool.

[rossmum]

Holy balls that is a fucking wicked photo

[Bobblehob]

or just finally says it out loud

also i haven't seen him on here in like 3 months anyways

I drop in from time to time, to make a comment and stir up the hate. :3

[=sw=warlord]

http://i.imgur.com/aSz3X.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/y4mmH.jpg

[TVTyrant]

LOL at wet and powerless

[Ki11a_FTW]

I live on the jersey shore. My town looks like it got nuked. Seaside is gone, and I'm pretty sure I'm the only neighboorhood with power atm.

[=sw=warlord]

Anyone notice how in the movie 2012 new york got flooded in the october?

[Timo]

The Atlantic just put another set of images up: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/11/hurricane-sandy-the-aftermath/100397/

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/sandy110112/s26_29497866.jpg

dem foundations

[Ki11a_FTW]

^Thats what it looks like here,half those pictures are taken where i live.

[Timo]

Damn bro, did your house survive unscathed?

[=sw=warlord]

I have a question about homes in the US, how is it in areas with very little storms there are houses made of brick and yet in areas which have storms, majority of the houses seem to be made of balsa wood?

[Zeph]

If you see brick on the outside of a home, it's only one layer deep. And brick doesn't do much against fire or flooding since the stuff on the inside gets ruined either way. And if a tree were to fall on your house, a layer of brick isn't going to do much to prevent damage. If anything, brick is just something extra that would cost more money in the long run. Since homes are less likely to get destroyed/damaged in areas with fewer storms, that's mostly why.

Brick being good against wind damage is nice, but that's rarely what really hurts a home.

[Rosco]

inb4 wild end of the world conspiracies



I always figured the brick thing was a choice of it's cheaper to rebuild with wood than brick especially when the places are more likely to be hit by storms.

[neuro]

If you see brick on the outside of a home, it's only one layer deep. And brick doesn't do much against fire or flooding since the stuff on the inside gets ruined either way. And if a tree were to fall on your house, a layer of brick isn't going to do much to prevent damage. If anything, brick is just something extra that would cost more money in the long run. Since homes are less likely to get destroyed/damaged in areas with fewer storms, that's mostly why.

Brick being good against wind damage is nice, but that's rarely what really hurts a home.

who makes a house with just a single row of bricks?
that's so weird, i've never understood this about america, all your homes are made out of wood, and SOMETIMES some bricks, and then wonder why your shit gets fucked up.

i've seen big fucking trees get uprooted in holland, landing on houses, and the houses are usually 'like i give a fuck'
also, we generally don't use those ceramic roof-tiles, because that shit just blows away. generally it's sheets of fiber-stuff or whatever that gets bolted down to whatever's underneath.

holland gets it's share of storms, and rain, (not quite tornado's, but somewhere i think that wouldn't be much of an issue either)
we KNOW out shit floods easily, so we have giant mechanic doors that can literally close the harbor so the water cant flood.

i get the feeling the 'american way' of dealing with this isn't putting together a system that can protect you from things, because THE GOVERNMENT AND KAPITALISM AND COMMUINISM BAD AND JESUS!

we build massive dams long fucking time ago when we wanted to NOT have half the goddamn country flood every other fucking storm, so we spared no expenses and now we've not had any floods ever since (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Oosterscheldekering-pohled.jpg/800px-Oosterscheldekering-pohled.jpg) that shit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering) was built. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works)
in fact, we were on a roll so hard, we figured we'd also make the world's largest artificial island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flevoland) while we were at it.

but we're obviously crazy drug additcs and potheads in a godless lawless prostutution-on-every-corner crazie europeeans bound straight for hell, so who gives a fuck about that.

yet you still came running to us like bitches when your shit flooded with katrina.

[Rainbow Dash]

Capitalism basically requires that things get destroyed as often as possible so that things can be rebuilt for profit more often, and that is why it demands that people live in shitty houses.

[neuro]

also jesus.

[=sw=warlord]

If you see brick on the outside of a home, it's only one layer deep. And brick doesn't do much against fire or flooding since the stuff on the inside gets ruined either way.Wrong And if a tree were to fall on your house, a layer of brick isn't going to do much to prevent damage.Also wrong. If anything, brick is just something extra that would cost more money in the long run. Since homes are less likely to get destroyed/damaged in areas with fewer storms,Which is why i asked brick houses NOT being in stormy areas, it's obvious houses are going to let less storm damage in less storm active areas. that's mostly why.

Brick being good against wind damage is nice, but that's rarely what really hurts a home.
Unlike plasterboard houses, brick does give some good protection but not as much as certain ICF walls do.
Majority of the damage from hurricanes is once the building is breached the building becomes a wind tunnel and that's what rips the building apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTHehy84XJs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pot7UI5SLb8

[Timo]

who makes a house with just a single row of bricks?
that's so weird, i've never understood this about america, all your homes are made out of wood, and SOMETIMES some bricks, and then wonder why your shit gets fucked up.


Bricks are often used as cladding. Timber framed houses are much cheaper and much faster to erect, and houses made out of brick behave very poorly in earthquake zones as well (although I don't think this area is). It also looks like the building techniques, not the materials are to blame for many of the failures, such as:

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/sandyrecovery_110212/bp42.jpg

[Ki11a_FTW]

@timo, yes, my house was unscratched. luckily, my part of town somehow make it through, however after you get to a certain point out of my nieghboorhood shits destroyed. crazy.

[ChemicalFizz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_costliest_Atlantic_hurricanes
This wiki article is following the ranking of costliest Atlantic hurricanes. The damage estimates are preliminary and still rising, but apparently Sandy ranks right behind Katrina for the Atlantic. In comparison, Irene is 7th on this list. Sandy also seems to have the highest number of lives lost since 1938, at 55 confirmed deaths.

Reporting in from a middle-of-nowhere small town in Long Island... We just got power back. I am surprised LIPA cared enough to prioritize us before some of the other major towns around here. I think it's safe to say everyone here and in the city seriously underestimated Sandy. I remember reading Facebook posts just a few days ago about comparisons to Irene and people laughing the new one off. Now all I see are a bunch of calls for relief efforts and volunteers.

Needless to say, I don't think anyone in New York anticipated the damage... People here were largely apathetic and were just lamenting the power loss. I for one did not see the gasoline issue forthcoming. I don't remember the last time I've seen lines like this for refueling. Witnessed some pretty wicked road rage against those trying to cut lines for gas. You'll probably see local police or NYPD policing the gas lines to stop the cutters. If you live in Staten Island, Lower Manhattan, Brooklyn, along the Jersey Shore, the south shore of Long Island (I live on the North Shore; not as bad here), etc... Best wishes and a speedy recovery. My condolences for property or personal loss. I hope you also have luck finding gas, because I haven't.

[Rainbow Dash]

http://wonkette.com/488500/stupid-hurricane-victims-let-fox-news-john-stossel-explain-why-it-is-awesome-to-price-gouge-you

[jcap]

Wow, John Stossel is a piece of shit.

[JackalStomper]

The lines at the gas stations aren't that bad from what I've seen.

Then again due to my shift my daily commute takes place at 18:00 and 06:00. Might be why.

in other news my roof decided it wanted to be a kite and now I'm moving to a new apartment.

[Kornman00]

Sandy was obviously a sign from <insert your god's name here> to stop basing every fucking show/movie/game in NY

[Timo]

Photos from one week on: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/11/hurricane-sandy-one-week-after-landfall/100399/

[Tnnaas]

It's like Reach Katrina all over again!

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/sandy110512/s_s45_RTR39ZJG.jpg

[Warsaw]

who makes a house with just a single row of bricks?
that's so weird, i've never understood this about america, all your homes are made out of wood, and SOMETIMES some bricks, and then wonder why your shit gets fucked up.

i've seen big fucking trees get uprooted in holland, landing on houses, and the houses are usually 'like i give a fuck'
also, we generally don't use those ceramic roof-tiles, because that shit just blows away. generally it's sheets of fiber-stuff or whatever that gets bolted down to whatever's underneath.

holland gets it's share of storms, and rain, (not quite tornado's, but somewhere i think that wouldn't be much of an issue either)
we KNOW out shit floods easily, so we have giant mechanic doors that can literally close the harbor so the water cant flood.

i get the feeling the 'american way' of dealing with this isn't putting together a system that can protect you from things, because THE GOVERNMENT AND KAPITALISM AND COMMUINISM BAD AND JESUS!

we build massive dams long fucking time ago when we wanted to NOT have half the goddamn country flood every other fucking storm, so we spared no expenses and now we've not had any floods ever since (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Oosterscheldekering-pohled.jpg/800px-Oosterscheldekering-pohled.jpg) that shit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering) was built. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works)
in fact, we were on a roll so hard, we figured we'd also make the world's largest artificial island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flevoland) while we were at it.

but we're obviously crazy drug additcs and potheads in a godless lawless prostutution-on-every-corner crazie europeeans bound straight for hell, so who gives a fuck about that.

yet you still came running to us like bitches when your shit flooded with katrina.

My house is solid brick, no timber frame here. It's why we got the house. Also protected from flooding because it's on top of a giant 3-acre hill looking down on all of the pedestrian vinyl-sided, timber-framed masses. All it needs to be awesome is an aluminum roof.

[/relative house elitism in 'Murica]

Also, here's a pro-tip for constructing cities, USA: DO NOT PUT DWELLINGS ON BARRIER ISLANDS. THEY ARE CALLED BARRIER ISLANDS FOR A GODDAMN REASON.

Fucking contracts going out to the lowest bidder...thank you lobbyists.