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Bodzilla
June 26th, 2013, 06:56 AM
shits going down in australia tonight.

Kevin Rudd was a popular but polarizing leader of the austrlaian labour party, taking them to a landslide victory over 11 years of conservative rule.
After 2 years as the PM his aggressive leadership tactics and his "my fucking way" approach to leadership alienated enough of the party to have his rule cut short by his deputy Julia Gillard.

She in turn with clumsy campaigning and being in a position to have to employ Kevin into her cabinet as prime minister due to his charismatic and popular charm blundered through and election campaign plagued by leaks and managed to form a Hung parliment.
This forced her to cut deals with minority party's and independents to form government.

Australia has basically been forced into 4 years of constant campaigning thanks to a hung parliament and in no small part by the conservative party leader Tony Abbot.
This has left australia completely disengaged from any political debate at all and lead to calls for Kevin Rudd to resume control back from Julia Gillard to save the flailing party from collapse in the next election.

He lost the first challenge and resigned from being a minister of foreign affairs but has returned under fire from his own party to reclaim the leadership of the party.

Julia Gillard has already declared that if she lost she'd resign from politics all together.

Crazy shit to have a guy ousted and gutted by his own party come back and control the nation once again.

Bodzilla
June 26th, 2013, 07:08 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-26/live-blog-labor-leadership/4782312

Amit
June 26th, 2013, 04:40 PM
...wow.

Bodzilla
June 26th, 2013, 09:51 PM
the only comparisson to american politics i could make is this. imagine Obama and clinton where president and vice, only to have Clinton poitically challenge and oust him from the leadership. Only to have him come back in a few years and topple her and force her into quitting politics.

TVTyrant
June 26th, 2013, 10:03 PM
Our system is so different from yours and other parliament based systems it's amazing sometimes.

Grover Cleveland though, bro.

n00b1n8R
June 26th, 2013, 11:29 PM
the only comparisson to american politics i could make is this. imagine Obama and clinton where president and vice, only to have Clinton poitically challenge and oust him from the leadership. Only to have him come back in a few years and topple her and force her into quitting politics.
Except it's nothing like that because in the USA it's completely different.

At any rate, federal ALP is a total joke and is currently in no position to govern. On the other hand, the coalition run by a backwards career politician like Abbot is a pretty shitty alternative. Guess we better vote Green right? :downs:

Bodzilla
June 26th, 2013, 11:40 PM
Kevin's gotta be better then abbot.

n00b1n8R
June 27th, 2013, 03:35 AM
Well if we're looking at policy on policy then yes labor is miles ahead with policy > no policy

nuttyyayap
June 27th, 2013, 04:55 AM
The devil you know, I suppose. Can't say I like any of the major leader candidates. But you know.

Bodzilla
June 27th, 2013, 05:15 AM
well rudd at least had some balls.
People forget quickly that it was the mining company's that he was going after that cut a deal with gillard and the power brokers which lead to his De-throning.

He even mentioned last night our unbalanced economy with a single industry dominating it thats completely reliant on china, the first time a politician has said that as far as i know.

n00b1n8R
June 27th, 2013, 09:09 PM
:words:

Bodzilla
June 27th, 2013, 09:45 PM
What is the very first thing gillard did when she came in? she cut a new resources tax with the mining company's and scrapped kevin rudds. A deal which has since gained fuck-all in tax revenue.
Are you naive enough to think that the the most powerful, influential industry in australia would cut a deal days after a new PM takes power?

Use your head mate.

One of the goddam reasons we got a carbon tax is because they needed more revenue to build the infrastructure projects they where looking at, because the mining resources tax in it's weakened state was giving us NO revenue, and something had to pay for the NBN, the changes to mental health, the gonski reform, the disability scheme ect.

n00b1n8R
June 27th, 2013, 10:54 PM
My comment was directed at the politicians, not your post. I agree with you but at the moment it's just a bunch of wind coming from Canberra.

Bodzilla
June 28th, 2013, 10:50 AM
i think the way he said it was a bigger thing, it wasn't a focal point of his speech, it was just an acknowledgement of a problem or something he's at least concerned with. i only noticed it on the 2nd hearing of his speech