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thehoodedsmack
November 9th, 2014, 03:17 PM
Hello, friends.

It's about time for discussion to pick up regarding the upcoming Halo 5 Multiplayer Beta, included within the soon-to-be-released Master Chief Collection.

Today we received our first glimpse of gameplay changes (http://i.gyazo.com/c8266004805e6f1e75f9eb065ca796de.mp4), in the form of ADS (aim-down-sights) shooting with at least one weapon (which appears to be Halo's old staple the Battle Rifle). We also see the return of sprinting, a contentious gameplay element which, while compensated for by temporarily removing the ability to use weapons, introduces complications to designing multiplayer maps which serve classic Halo gameplay philosophies of timing and map control.

As most of us already know, bullet spread has been with us since the original Halo, if less visible, making Halo 4's emphasized reticle bloom an almost non-issue. That said, I think the introduction of ADS poses a secondary issue, in that, if we assume that Halo 5 behaves like its contemporaries, ADS will inhibit speed of movement, further exacerbating movement changes introduced by sprinting.

What are your thoughts on the new changes to gameplay? Look forward to more discussion in the coming weeks as more information surfaces.

thehoodedsmack
November 9th, 2014, 03:41 PM
UPDATE: It didn't take long for the web-wide outcry to reach 343, who have commented on the situation.


No penalty to hip fire in H5, no movement penalty when scoping/zooming, no flinch. Tune in for the beta gameplay reveal at #HaloFest (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HaloFest?src=hash) Monday.

Pyong Kawaguchi
November 9th, 2014, 04:12 PM
Here's some gameplay.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3UgeScLw20

Zeph
November 9th, 2014, 04:14 PM
it's no longer halo. when you have to add collision blockers to a map that didn't have them to keep a map working, gameplay has changed enough that it's no longer the same game.

thehoodedsmack
November 9th, 2014, 10:08 PM
I was planning to buy an Xbox One and the MCC, but now I'm thinking I'm going to have to wait until I can get a used copy. I'd rather skip out on the beta and be a conscientious observer than give 343 any honest dev money.

Cortexian
November 10th, 2014, 03:23 AM
Plan to buy a gaming PC instead, this geration of consoles has proved how horrible they are on multiple levels... Hardware being significantly more lackluster than previous generation, games offering no significant graphical improvements, marketing building up massive hype for mediocre games... It's not worth it at all anymore. Build yourself a cheap-mid range gaming PC for $600 - $1500 insite a mini-itx steam machine type chassis (I recommend the Silverstone Raven RVZ01) and get an all-around better experience.

Rentafence
November 10th, 2014, 08:30 AM
I recommend the Dell Optiplex series for all your gaming needs.

PopeAK49
November 10th, 2014, 04:15 PM
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8371503616/hF5A4CB37/

TVTyrant
November 10th, 2014, 06:48 PM
I recommend the Dell Optiplex series for all your gaming needs.

I did my best Haloing on an Optiplex

Haters gonna hate

Kornman00
November 12th, 2014, 11:36 AM
Freelancers gonna freelance 'n prance

Pyong Kawaguchi
December 20th, 2014, 10:03 AM
http://i.imgur.com/UCUtduH.jpg

PopeAK49
December 20th, 2014, 08:09 PM
COD: Guardians Beta

Cortexian
December 21st, 2014, 01:14 AM
What interface is that for Windows? Doesn't look quite like Win 8 / 8.1 metro?

t3h m00kz
December 21st, 2014, 05:38 AM
xbone you OBLIVIOUS SCRUBLORD

ilu

Rentafence
December 21st, 2014, 07:23 PM
What interface is that for Windows? Doesn't look quite like Win 8 / 8.1 metro?

It's Gnome 3.

Cortexian
December 22nd, 2014, 02:12 AM
But how do I give Microsoft my money for a PC version?

t3h m00kz
December 22nd, 2014, 06:01 AM
MQkmSDKyrW4

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Rentafence
December 22nd, 2014, 06:16 PM
But how do I give Microsoft my money for a PC version?

They don't accept your under valued canadian money.

Kornman00
December 23rd, 2014, 08:59 AM
lol, "Halo"

JackalStomper
December 23rd, 2014, 10:46 AM
stupid medals
stupid sounds
stupid lens flares
stupid giant bloom effects
stupid cutscenes
movement is kind of cool but not really halo
was ADS ever really necessary in a game where hipfiring is basically perfectly accurate?
ohh hey the health bar is back

this franchise is just selling from name brand at this point.

PlasbianX
December 23rd, 2014, 12:32 PM
stupid medals
stupid sounds
stupid lens flares
stupid giant bloom effects
stupid cutscenes
movement is kind of cool but not really halo
was ADS ever really necessary in a game where hipfiring is basically perfectly accurate?
ohh hey the health bar is back

this franchise is just selling from name brand at this point.

Sounds are still halo
Not as many lens flares as you claim
Same goes with bloom effects
There wasn't a single cutscene in the beta
Movement still feels exactly like halo
ADS was a nice addition
Yes, yes health is back

This forum is hanging on by the elitist pricks who want vanilla halo and nothing more. Played the beta till I was Onyx, had an absolute blast and the game just felt "right". Im excited for the full game.

Kornman00
December 23rd, 2014, 05:12 PM
I do like that they added a visual for the health recharge cooldown, to let you know precisely when you stop saying "ohshitohshitohsit" over and over

Amit
December 24th, 2014, 02:08 AM
I don't get this game. Since when was Halo about 4v4 MLG Pro snipez? I recall that to damn near everyone Halo 1-3 was about 8v8 large map vehicular combat.

JackalStomper
December 24th, 2014, 08:11 AM
Sounds are still halo
Not as many lens flares as you claim
Same goes with bloom effects
There wasn't a single cutscene in the beta
Movement still feels exactly like halo
ADS was a nice addition
Yes, yes health is back

This forum is hanging on by the elitist pricks who want vanilla halo and nothing more. Played the beta till I was Onyx, had an absolute blast and the game just felt "right". Im excited for the full game.

Feels/plays/sounds/looks like Halo?
Compared to what? Halo 4?



elitist pricks


http://i.imgur.com/ObFnbQh.png
http://i.imgur.com/PmG3gKo.png

Rentafence
December 24th, 2014, 04:39 PM
Sounds are still halo
Not as many lens flares as you claim
Same goes with bloom effects
There wasn't a single cutscene in the beta
Movement still feels exactly like halo
ADS was a nice addition
Yes, yes health is back

This forum is hanging on by the elitist pricks who want vanilla halo and nothing more. Played the beta till I was Onyx, had an absolute blast and the game just felt "right". Im excited for the full game.

If we're elitist pricks then you're just a plebian scrub who wants Halo: Unreal Tournament 2015: Tribes (Day One Edition)

Warsaw
December 25th, 2014, 02:25 AM
Feels/plays/sounds/looks like Halo?
Compared to what? Halo 4?


Funny you say that, because Halo 4 felt more like Halo than Halo 2 or 3 ever did.

Also, WTF is wrong with the plasma sword in that vid, m00kz. It's hideous.

TVTyrant
December 26th, 2014, 06:02 AM
The new weapon designs are fucking awful

Like, really fucking awful.

:rossmum:

Patrickssj6
December 26th, 2014, 10:26 AM
nice energy sword

t3h m00kz
December 26th, 2014, 01:21 PM
Also, WTF is wrong with the plasma sword in that vid, m00kz. It's hideous.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/341/i-dunno-lol_1_.jpg

PlasbianX
December 26th, 2014, 10:08 PM
If we're elitist pricks then you're just a plebian scrub who wants Halo: Unreal Tournament 2015: Tribes (Day One Edition)

You forgot to include my day one $5.99 horse armor dlc.

TVTyrant
December 27th, 2014, 10:34 PM
You forgot to include my day one $5.99 horse armor dlc.
Totes worth it