First ever cinematic render

[Elite Killa]

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12539

Discuss.

[Dootuz]

yay

[Zeph]

Only thing I have to say is that the weapons are nice and dark in the wireframes. That is such a good thing.

[Limited]

Ok, wheres the render? All I see is a screenshot on the cinematic project in a modeling/animating program. I see no render of it.

[p0lar_bear]

... that is a render.

:v:

[CtrlAltDestroy]

haha, owned

[Limited]

... that is a render.

:v:
Uh no its not :)

[Reaper Man]

Yay, Maya.

[p0lar_bear]

Uh no its not :)

Look up the word "render." As textureless as it may be, it is still a render.

[klange]

Look up the word "render." As textureless as it may be, it is still a render.
Indeed, it's the 2-dimensional representation of a 3-dimensional set of points.
Ooh, I like this definition:
To transform digital information in the form received from a repository into a display on a computer screen, or for other presentation to the user.

[Limited]

I know you can get broken down renders, that have no textures, very basic low res models its basically just a place holder. However this picture hasnt been rendered.

Its just a picture of the view port. Hence the X,Y and Z axis in the bottom left. Hence the yellow lines around some of the distinctive edges of the models.

Its a screenshot of a cinematic being made, NOT A FUCKING RENDER

[p0lar_bear]

Its just a picture of the view port.And what is the viewport showing? I'll give you a hint:

It begins with "ren" and ends with "der."

[Veegie]

I know you can get broken down renders, that have no textures, very basic low res models its basically just a place holder. However this picture hasnt been rendered.

Its just a picture of the view port. Hence the X,Y and Z axis in the bottom left. Hence the yellow lines around some of the distinctive edges of the models.

Its a screenshot of a cinematic being made, NOT A FUCKING RENDER
If those models weren't being rendered, the viewport would be black you fucking retard.

[Teroh]

Limited, do you even know what a render is, or are you just pulling definitions out of your ass?

[Veegie]

I'm going to have to go with the latter.

[Limited]

Bah
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5150/notrenderbg7.png
There is a camera in the scene, you can see it in the top right view port.

The so called "render" view port has an axis, I dunno why a render would have an axis. It has black but that isnt the viewport background its probably some effect added from the camera. The reason it doesnt show any viewport background (black) is because its in a vehicle, Therefore the only thing to look at is model.

Now, if we want to be really picky we could say that of course is a render as its being rendered onto the screen, but then everything you see on a pc is a render which wouldnt really count. This is a view of the camera, the block whos operating the machine didnt press "the render button" yet.

[PlasbianX]

Bah
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5150/notrenderbg7.png
There is a camera in the scene, you can see it in the top right view port.

The so called "render" view port has an axis, I dunno why a render would have an axis. It has black but that isnt the viewport background its probably some effect added from the camera. The reason it doesnt show any viewport background (black) is because its in a vehicle, Therefore the only thing to look at is model.

Now, if we want to be really picky we could say that of course is a render as its being rendered onto the screen, but then everything you see on a pc is a render which wouldnt really count. This is a view of the camera, the block whos operating the machine didnt press "the render button" yet.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. K?

LEIK NO NO NO NO NOOOO GUYZZZZZZ THE PICCCCC IZ A PIC OF A FUCKIN MASTERCHEIFFFFF DONUTZZ LOLOLOLOIOIOLOLOLOL! ZOMG GUYS! I SEE DER CAMERA! OMFG GUYZZZZZZZZ ASLKJAHSJKHSAKJ!

[Limited]

Compelling post ^

Well veegie is the king of rendering but ill think what I want :)

render or no render, its still pretty cool

[Veegie]

Rendering is the process of generating an image from a model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_model), by means of computer programs. The model is a description of three dimensional objects in a strictly defined language or data structure. It would contain geometry, viewpoint, texture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texture_mapping), lighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighting), and shading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shading) information.Maya/3ds Max applies a 'fast-shader' to keep view ports at a suitable frame rate.
Holy shit there's a camera and an axis in the lower left? I had no idea. Obviously you've completely missed the point. When you see vertex info, poly arrays, and tri strips being compiled into a suitable visual form that reacts to any form of light source, it's called a render you incompetent moron.


Well veegie is the king of rendering but ill think what I want :)
If you don't mind facts slapping you in the face contradicting your every word... sure.

[Limited]

lol I got warned for what exactly? :)

Oh and I mean render is in the render known in the modeling program, not in the sense of rendering onto the viewport. A true render.

[Zeph]

You got it because of the 'I dont care if I'm wrong I'm still going to argue my point regardless of what proof is shown against me'. thing. You're presented with dictionary evidence to counter your claim and you still persist.

[Limited]

"But ill think what I want" = my opinon still stands, however as veegie is more experienced in the matter, I conceed the arguement :P

So, lets talk about the actual content, is it a trailer or the cinematic's thats in the game :)

[Zeph]

I warned the last post of your series of it. vBulliten lacks any 'warn this group of posts' functionality.

[Syuusuke]

Heh I see a baldy in that render.

[Elite Killa]

"But ill think what I want" = my opinon still stands, however as veegie is more experienced in the matter, I conceed the arguement :P

So, lets talk about the actual content, is it a trailer or the cinematic's thats in the game :)
I guess it would be in the game. I'm not sure, though.

[klange]

When you see vertex info, poly arrays, and tri strips being compiled into a suitable visual form that reacts to any form of light source, it's called a render you incompetent moron.
There doesn't even need to be a light source, technically... I can give an example, but I'm too lazy and it's 2:00 AM


If those models weren't being rendered, the viewport would be black you fucking retard.
Sigged.

[Reaper Man]

That is Maya, you noobs

[DaneO'Roo]

<3 Maya

and @ Zeph, yes dark wireframes are :awesome:

(means "teh gunz has moar polys" for simple people)

[Patrickssj6]

Fuck I didn't shave myself today...

oh well 1000th post hurray

[Veegie]

That is Maya, you noobs
Was it the file name: http://www.bungie.net/images/News/InlineImages2007/mayaCinematix.jpg that gave it away? Or was it the Maya GUI?


<3 Maya

and @ Zeph, yes dark wireframes are :awesome:

(means "teh gunz has moar polys" for simple people)
No, it means the polygon topology is far more dense than its predecessors.

Also, the Master Chief only has a 5,138 tri-count, sorry to disappoint.


Fuck I didn't shave myself today...

oh well 1000th post hurray
Great. Besides being pointless, one could judge by that post that the previous nine hundred ninety-nine posts were shitty as well.

[Dole]

No, it means the polygon topology is far more dense than its predecessors.
If the polygon topology is denser it's because it has more polygons, not because they have been reconcentrated from one particular area to another.
Dane's post was valid.


Great. Besides being pointless, one could judge by that post that the previous nine hundred ninety-nine posts were shitty as well.
Such commentary is unnecessary.

[Veegie]

If the polygon topology is denser it's because it has more polygons, not because they have been reconcentrated from one particular area to another.
Dane's post was valid.
I guess you missed the idea that I was addressing the fact that he spoke like a complete idiot...

[Dole]

This is the internet. If that's what you're saying, you'll have to say it.