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Dole
July 20th, 2007, 07:23 PM
What do you think? Aside from the tires, the fact that the turret looks like it's not centered well, and the bad paint job, it looks pretty good. ;)




Driving Under the Influence of Awesome

Um. The dudes at WETA made a Warthog. I don’t mean that they made a big plastic thing that looks like a Warthog. I mean they built a fully-functioning, four-wheel steering, powerful, off-road vehicle with a machine gun on the back. At the correct scale. If you live near Wellington, New Zealand, you might even see some crazy machine-shop dude from WETA fishtailing around your base, ahem, I mean neighborhood.

What’s it for? Well, a couple of things – one of which will be one of the shorts coming from director Neill Blomkamp. We sort of blindsided you guys with the first short (Arms Race) – it had little to no context or explanation, but when you see it as it was originally intended – as part of an overall narrative, you might just pee your pants. And if you don’t, then the picture below will certainly cause some leakage.


"Goddamn. It’s a Warthog."
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/WeeklyUpdate/WarthogBsmall.jpg

TeeKup
July 20th, 2007, 07:26 PM
....................

I am now complete.

PenGuin1362
July 20th, 2007, 07:27 PM
that is pretty bitchin

thehoodedsmack
July 20th, 2007, 07:35 PM
Needs more of what Dole said. It looks to plastic and shiny to me. I was thinking of doing a project like this. Right now the design doesn't really impress. But I'm sure they'll refine it.

k4is3rxkh40s
July 20th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Now just needs an infinite amount of ammunition for the turret, and an infinite amount of fuel

Atty
July 20th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Needs more me behind the steering wheel.

TeeKup
July 20th, 2007, 07:55 PM
Anyone who does not find this awesome is a communist.

Emmzee
July 20th, 2007, 08:00 PM
:awesome:

Sever
July 20th, 2007, 08:02 PM
They just gotta drive it around in the mud and Grunts a bit to get the 'paintjob' fixed.

Zeph
July 20th, 2007, 08:51 PM
I'd like to see more about that suspension system. At UTk, friends of mine from the metal shop in the art and architecture building talked about making one based on the halo 1 model, but couldn't figure out how to get the engine working with the suspension.

teh lag
July 20th, 2007, 09:00 PM
I want.

Con
July 20th, 2007, 09:04 PM
I dislike the paintjob; it could have done from actual damage and grunge instead of the fake stuff, but it is still awesome

:iia:

LlamaMaster
July 20th, 2007, 09:08 PM
I can't help but think that it looks fake, but I know it's real. Even if it's not perfect, this is epic, seriously.

Con
July 20th, 2007, 09:11 PM
I'd like to see more about that suspension system. At UTk, friends of mine from the metal shop in the art and architecture building talked about making one based on the halo 1 model, but couldn't figure out how to get the engine working with the suspension.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3391/captureqb9.png
It's just like any other 4 wheel drive truck

Archon23
July 20th, 2007, 09:11 PM
Okay where can I find the guys who built this and how much will it cost to get me one?

rossmum
July 20th, 2007, 09:16 PM
I'd like to see more about that suspension system. At UTk, friends of mine from the metal shop in the art and architecture building talked about making one based on the halo 1 model, but couldn't figure out how to get the engine working with the suspension.
It [the Hog as it appears ingame] has an electric motor in each suspension arm and a main one in the front, I think.


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3391/captureqb9.png
It's just like any other 4 wheel drive truck
:smith:

Still completely fucking awesome. I want one.

Skiiran
July 20th, 2007, 09:19 PM
I want two. Can I get two somehow? Are they for sale?

Bodzilla
July 20th, 2007, 09:39 PM
It [the Hog as it appears ingame] has an electric motor in each suspension arm and a main one in the front, I think.


:smith:

Still completely fucking awesome. I want one.
bye me one rossmum and we can go cogging.

Con
July 20th, 2007, 09:46 PM
It [the Hog as it appears ingame] has an electric motor in each suspension arm and a main one in the front, I think.

No, the end of each arm houses the steering's swivel-assembly. The actual drive may be in chain drive form, like the mongoose appears to have, or in a shaft (more likely in a high power vehicle). It runs on fuel.
OR: It uses the gas engine to charge a generator which powers motors located at the top of each suspension arm, but not in the hub at the end, and they would turn a shaft.

rossmum
July 20th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Yeah, the last one's probably closer.

TeeKup
July 20th, 2007, 09:55 PM
I want two. Can I get two somehow? Are they for sale?

That was the only one made, as far as we know. :P

DOMINATOR
July 20th, 2007, 10:30 PM
looks like a render to me... i guess cuz majority of the details are airbrushed on.

Rob Oplawar
July 21st, 2007, 12:16 AM
^ lol

Yeah I still say that Halo is fucking epic and awesome, but stylized, and would be awesome in CG (like the Halo Wars trailer, or the Starry Night commercial), but when translated to real life it just somehow doesn't work, because let's face it, Halo is not realistic.

That hog is awesome, but it's still cheesy, cause it's just unrealistic. Still, I'd love to see it barreling across an open plain at 100 km/hr.

Dole
July 21st, 2007, 12:18 AM
Agreed. The movie would look best if reminiscent of Starry Night, and live actors can be greenscreen'd the same way the two kids in the beginning of the trailer were.

Digikid
July 21st, 2007, 09:33 AM
Can you imagine someone driving that up and down the beach during the day screaming and yelling? I would SO do that!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!

Stormwing
July 21st, 2007, 10:22 AM
it'd be pretty awesome if some real auto company saw the how completely kick-ass this was and went to design + mass produce something similar..or actual make civihogs mauahahahaha
it's not that different than a jeep wrangler anyway.

all that needs to be done is put in the appropriate safety equipment and take off the gun...I don't see how it can't be street legal then. It's got fuckin cupholders already...it can't be that far off.


....Everyone seems to love this thing, halo fan or not :awesome:

OmegaDragon
July 21st, 2007, 12:20 PM
Price please!

Bad Waffle
July 21st, 2007, 01:43 PM
I'd like to see more about that suspension system. At UTk, friends of mine from the metal shop in the art and architecture building talked about making one based on the halo 1 model, but couldn't figure out how to get the engine working with the suspension.


i actually made a lego prototype of the suspension once. You have to really watch out for the twisting of the axle, and if you've been up to date on many cars of the future, the "engine" is really just a really supercharged electric in every wheel like the game. The engine you see ingame is really a large generator to supply the huge power of the engines. Check this out, im pretty sure this technique could be applied to a real life warthog model with correct suspension.

http://www.tm4.com/eng/tm4transport/moto_wheelmotor/

Dr Nick
July 21st, 2007, 02:22 PM
Does it come in black?:D

BobtheGreatII
July 21st, 2007, 04:02 PM
:eekdance: My life is complete.

It seems kinda squished together length wise. It almost seems as if the "real" warthog would be somewhat longer.


EDIT: Actually now that I look at the larger picture, it does seem like it looks right... Still...

Archon23
July 21st, 2007, 04:03 PM
I need a gauss version NOW.

Revord
July 21st, 2007, 04:28 PM
Dude, you need to keep the chain gun on the hog, even in the civilian version. It would be perfect for clearing rush hour traffic!!

Dr Nick
July 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM
I'd like to see more about that suspension system. At UTk, friends of mine from the metal shop in the art and architecture building talked about making one based on the halo 1 model, but couldn't figure out how to get the engine working with the suspension.
it looks like the axles are really close together, and they're turning some super-durable chains which are linked to the wheels.

Like this(pardon my shitty MsPaint drawing...):

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/nickwarr_182/Warthogsuspension.jpg

But about how the wheels turn, I have no clue!

Dole
July 21st, 2007, 07:04 PM
No, he means in real life.

The way it would work in the video game is to have the wheels powered by auxiliary motors at the end of the drive props, and the motors are a part of free-rotating lateral joint mechanisms (which allow for the independent steering)... either that or there are power converters along the drive props that transfer motion from the engine to the stem of the wheel.

However, in real life (with modern technology at least) the drive props couldn't be free-standing, and would collapse under the load of the vehicle without a highly advanced suspension system. It is that suspension system which Zeph is specifically inquiring about.

Stormwing
July 21st, 2007, 09:30 PM
look at the front wheel - seems like there's a vertical rod connecting the wheel to the chassis.

The undercarriage of this hog seems much more complex anyway (what is that thing behind/under the front suspension arm?)...need more pics!!!

Dole
July 21st, 2007, 09:52 PM
Conscars made a blown-up demonstration of that on page two.

Stormwing
July 21st, 2007, 10:09 PM
oh.

i know i saw that pic somewhere. thought it was on GBX...stupid copypaste threads with copypaste titles. :(

klange
July 21st, 2007, 11:45 PM
Anyone who does not find this awesome is a communist.
I find that offensive.

rossmum
July 22nd, 2007, 12:00 AM
I find you offensive.

OH WHAT NOW, WHAT NOW

Bodzilla
July 22nd, 2007, 12:21 AM
he replies and u post again?

ExAm
July 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM
Agreed. The movie would look best if reminiscent of Starry Night, and live actors can be greenscreen'd the same way the two kids in the beginning of the trailer were.

They weren't. That's real grass. Look through the bungie updates.

As for the Hog, that's just fucking awesome. Anyone who disagrees needs to be shot. Now.

Huero
July 22nd, 2007, 05:35 PM
I demand a mongoose

Archon23
July 22nd, 2007, 05:38 PM
I demand a fully functional Longsword.

SPACE CAPABILITIES AND ALL.

Dole
July 22nd, 2007, 08:09 PM
They weren't. That's real grass. Look through the bungie updates.
The kids and the grass in the immediate area were real, I already know, but the background and the setting was done via greenscreen.

ExAm
July 22nd, 2007, 08:53 PM
Interesting.

nooBBooze
July 23rd, 2007, 06:28 AM
I demand a mongoose
pfft. paint any atv green and there you go.

n00b1n8R
July 23rd, 2007, 07:05 AM
but you can't go broke back on just any atv can you :P

want ghost :D
no, want banshee!!

nooBBooze
July 23rd, 2007, 07:34 AM
lulz but still, future scientists must have a really limited budget to come up with a 500 years old design (and tech. D:)

Huero
July 23rd, 2007, 08:21 AM
but you can't go broke back on just any atv can you :P

want ghost :D
no, want banshee!!
Yeah; you can. I have one.
It warns you against it, but it's fine as long as you don't get stuck; then the other has to get off.
And noobbooze, it looks a bit different than a civilian atv

Dr Nick
July 23rd, 2007, 10:47 AM
And the controls are odd.

ExAm
July 23rd, 2007, 11:44 AM
Yeah; you can. I have one.
It warns you against it, but it's fine as long as you don't get stuck; then the other has to get off.
And noobbooze, it looks a bit different than a civilian atv
Also, poland more risk of tipping over backwards.

Limited
July 23rd, 2007, 12:01 PM
Is there any more camera angles?

ImSpartacus
July 23rd, 2007, 12:12 PM
nope, just one pick on the bungie weekly update.

i think it looks stupid with the imitation battle worn look. they should've just made a clean looking one.

is that a real machine gun, i dont recognize it, but i dont exactly know my mg's.

ExAm
July 23rd, 2007, 12:34 PM
It's a fake machine gun. A replica of the M41 LAAG from the actual Halo warthog.

nooBBooze
July 23rd, 2007, 01:00 PM
...wich doesnt look like you can make a full 360° spin with it. But hey, im sure it will look good in a short sequence with proper lights and camera angle.

ExAm
July 23rd, 2007, 01:36 PM
It does. The pic is at a bad angle, I think. Try the enlarged version in the actual article.

Dr Nick
July 23rd, 2007, 01:50 PM
Actually, there's no shoulder braces, my friend saw this as soon as he saw the pic. Plus, as said before in this thread, those bullets don't even look real.

Btd69
July 23rd, 2007, 05:45 PM
Are you 13 year olds ever fucking happy?

Seriously, go buy yourself 10m of rope, find a nice tree, and fucking hang yourself.

Con
July 23rd, 2007, 05:48 PM
Yeah, I'm sure with the right lighting and editing it will look great.

Dr Nick
July 23rd, 2007, 06:07 PM
Are you 13 year olds ever fucking happy?

Seriously, go buy yourself 10m of rope, find a nice tree, and fucking hang yourself.A.I'm 15

B. I never said anything having to do with my own opinion. I think the thing looks great!

And finally, C. Go learn how to manage your anger.

BobtheGreatII
July 23rd, 2007, 06:57 PM
Actually, there's no shoulder braces, my friend saw this as soon as he saw the pic. Plus, as said before in this thread, those bullets don't even look real.

:O Thank you for noticing that. I knew something seemed off about it. I wonder if the machine gun like, actually spins and feeds the "bullets" through? That would be epic for whatever this is going in. That way it wouldn't be all cheesy looking. Is this thing for Arm's Race?

Con
July 23rd, 2007, 07:03 PM
Arms Race was just one of the shorts in the series. I don't know how many are going to be in the series, probably few.

rossmum
July 24th, 2007, 12:22 AM
Are you 13 year olds ever fucking happy?

Seriously, go buy yourself 10m of rope, find a nice tree, and fucking hang yourself.
oh blake why are you so :awesome:

mech
July 24th, 2007, 12:25 AM
0 star crash test safety rating. No seat belts = awesome.

Con
July 24th, 2007, 12:29 AM
*covies stick hog with a plasma nade*

ONOES I CAN'T JUMP OUT I HAVE TO UNDO MY SEATBELT FIRST :saddowns:

bad idea.

mech
July 24th, 2007, 12:41 AM
:vI bet there's not an airbag. Oh yeah, covenant are real

Cortexian
July 24th, 2007, 12:45 AM
Does it have side deployable airbags installed?

Oh and to all you people asking how many you think were produced. I'm assuming a lot, since it's going to be in a short film. In almost any vehicle scene in a big production there are at least three of the featured vehicle. Albeit, they are all different from each other, such as stunt driving versions, and versions with no engines that have REALLY detailed interiors for green-screen shots of the driver/passengers.

I'm sure they'll cut you in on a non-functional one for a mere 1 mil.

EDIT: Anyone think it's machine washable?

}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O
July 24th, 2007, 01:07 AM
I'll post a pic when I get my new computer...

Right now it's a bloody HP...

Pooky
July 24th, 2007, 03:33 AM
*covies stick hog with a plasma nade*

ONOES I CAN'T JUMP OUT I HAVE TO UNDO MY SEATBELT FIRST :saddowns:

bad idea.

There's also the fact that the chief weighs almost as much as the warthog itself, for him a seatbelt wouldn't be much help anyway.

Dr Nick
July 24th, 2007, 05:21 AM
Dudes it's gonna be in a movie set to come out in 2009, they'll have tons of warthogs there just to make the place look good!

Hey! They might even have civ hogs!

Stormwing
July 24th, 2007, 01:11 PM
guys, new info.


The hog was built in just six weeks.

The 4 wheel steering isn't just warthog style. It's Jeep Hurricane style, as in it can crab crawl.

The gun "works". How exactly, I don't know, but it's not just an unmoving stupid little prop. Maybe the turret spins, maybe the barrels spin, idk. But they say it works, so hmmm.

It has airbags. And since it's already got airbags, I wouldn't necessarily put seat belts out of the picture.


I think this is fully street legal already.

http://www.wetanz.com/holics/index.php?itemid=439&catid=2#more

:awesome: :awesome: :awesome:
:awesome: :awesome:

Archon23
July 24th, 2007, 01:21 PM
Fully street legal with a functional chaingun attached to the back of it?

Now I REALLY need one.

Huero
July 25th, 2007, 07:44 PM
This is awesome.
Really, just awesome.
And I'll assume that it is a chaingun; they said fully functional.

p0lar_bear
July 25th, 2007, 10:35 PM
Fucking amazing.

Really, there is nothing else to describe this whole thing.