*W.I.P* SPAS (shotgun)

[DaaxGhost]

Well, as a few of you know im currently working on a SPAS; I added new detail, Here are some new images of what i have so far.

Tell me what you think could be added; deleted, or fixed. =)

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh4.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh3.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh2.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh.jpg

[Rentafence]

You could fix that smoothing error in the back. :(

[DaaxGhost]

Yea, i am fixing those smoothing errors.

[Dole]

Ooh... sexcellent.

[legionaire45]

pretty <3. Fix the smoothing errors and I think it will be awesome. Liek, sex awesome.

[DaaxGhost]

lol. im on it. Edit*: is this any better?

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh6.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh7.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh8.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh9.jpg

[Bad Waffle]

we already have a topic for this stuff, and its also already posted in that topic D:

[DaaxGhost]

we already have a topic for this stuff, and its also already posted in that topic D:
GE OVER LIFE BITC*... nah jk. yea but not everyone looks in there.. lol

[Phopojijo]

In Maya when people want to put something awkwardly shaped on something else awkwardly shaped... we set them to rigid bodies, apply a gravity vector, and let physics run its course. Perfect stacking o.o

[DaaxGhost]

It's way to high poly for halo, or halo 2. But I made aa flashlight attachment near the barrel.

[thehoodedsmack]

You're a Spaz... :mad:








Oh. SPAS. I see. Keep it up! d( || )b

[thehoodedsmack]

Careful, I bet Zeph warns you for that.

Meh. Just having some fun. No offense meant. I do like the model. If I get warned, well, you only live once, amiright?

[Bad Waffle]

Careful, I bet Zeph warns you for that.

actually, he only warns retards :downs:

[Tweek]

he warned me once :awesome:

[DaaxGhost]

he warned me once :awesome:
I guess like wave aid he only warns retards..lol jk. Here's an update of the SPAS. I'll get all the renders to photobucket in a second.

[FRain]

Keep up the good work. It however, looks too high poly.

[Bad Waffle]

Daax, ignore what flaming rain just said.

[Syuusuke]

I'd like to put that under my shirt...

[DaaxGhost]

I'd like to put that under my shirt...
Well. I deleted a few hings and added a few things to the inside of the weapon. Renders Will be on soon. Enjoy the first wonderful pictures. ;p

Edit**:

The First barrel is where the shots come out. The bottom is the flash-light. =)

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh3-1.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh2-1.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh1.jpg

[}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O]

Im curious, what's the polycount?

Oh, and it looks like nothign i've ever seen before.. i mean that in a good way.. :)

[DaaxGhost]

I'll get some pictures of the poly count.

And thank you. I'm trying to lower the poly count so I can get it in halo 2, or reg Halo.

Polygon/Triangles Count Picture

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/polyc2.png

[legionaire45]

cool stuff. I liek the shiny <3.

[}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O]

What apps have booleans?

[DaaxGhost]

Umm... 3ds, maya 8.0, not sure about gmax, Blender 3d. (Blender isn't the best go wtih 3ds max 8)

Those are the only ones I've worked with, I did use Blender 3d; For about 3 weeks or so, and then I found 3ds max. So i'd say go with the 3ds max trial.

[PenGuin1362]

O_O ZOMG TRIS!!!

it looks pretty good but for what ever reason there is something about it that doesn't seem quite right. no idea what, it might too smooth in some areas. when i figure it out i'll let ya know.

[DaaxGhost]

O_O ZOMG TRIS!!!

it looks pretty good but for what ever reason there is something about it that doesn't seem quite right. no idea what, it might too smooth in some areas. when i figure it out i'll let ya know.
Aye, capin'. lol. I fixed the smoothing errors. The Pictures are of the flash-light which i'm having a hard time making it dynamic for halo. I hope you guys like it. I'll keep you posted on how its coming along; in the mean while tell me what you think of it. =D

[}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O]

How long have you been modeling for? That looks like professional stuff.

[Archon23]

^Further proof you didn't actually read the posts in the Gallery Thread. I remember he said 3 years if I'm not mistaken.

[DaaxGhost]

^Further proof you didn't actually read the posts in the Gallery Thread. I remember he said 3 years if I'm not mistaken.
your correct. 3 years. I'm still loving it. I'm getting way better at the gun modelling and vehicle. a little at the bsp.

[Rentafence]

I'm trying to lower the poly count so I can get it in halo 2, or reg Halo.

You would probably be better off modeling another from scratch, cutting down that many faces would take forever

[DaaxGhost]

Not really considering i got it to work. ;p. It's fine it exported fine just its not animated which i am gonna do. I'm fixing a few problems with the flash-light. its being a whore! keeps flickering whe its psawns. it like flickers every 2 seconds. So i fixed that issue, I maay release the tags when im done in this thread..no wait has to be done in the releae forum anyway.
The Flash light it fixed up. Tell me what i can fix bout it.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh2-1.jpg

[Rentafence]

Not really considering i got it to work. ;p. It's fine it exported fine just its not animated which i am gonna do.

What the hell do you mean its fine? :beating: You told me it lagged like a bitch and then exceptioned when you picked it up.

[DaaxGhost]

What the hell do you mean its fine? :beating: You told me it lagged like a bitch and then exceptioned when you picked it up.
It did. But now its fine. except sometimes it lags when you pick it up. :(
Anyway, what do you think of the flashlight? anything i could change on it.

[}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O]

I've seen a SPAS with almost as many polies make it into Source just fine...
Here's an idea.. Maybe this isn't source.

[Phopojijo]

I've seen a SPAS with almost as many polies make it into Source just fine...

Oh also, the ejection port is on the wrong side. Mirror it horizontally.Thats because Source is a very uncomplicated engine... (in the shader sense). Instead of concentrating on lighting detail, it concentrates on pushing polygons.

Does that make it bad? No, its just the design choice. But it also explains how you can get such high polycounts into Source.

Does that make it good? No, its a design choice. It explains how some newer engines look better, but ultimately have smaller triangle counts.

As an example -- UnrealEngine3 has a maximum of approximately 60,000 triangles for the characters in the scene (all characters combined, source: Epic's Unreal Technology (http://www.unrealtechnology.com/html/technology/ue30.shtml) page) This equates to approximately 4,000-12,000 for 5-15 loaded players. This is low, even for current gen. However -- its made up for by the lighting detail (normal mapping, parallax self-occlusion, etc.)

My guess for the major reasoning behind this is -- basically -- you don't need to get the CPU to vertex-shift a texture... but you do for non-static meshes.

[Rentafence]

I've seen a SPAS with almost as many polies make it into Source just fine...

Really? I had no idea you could have such a high polycount on an fp model in any engine. Thats pretty cool.

[Masterz1337]

Careful, I bet Zeph warns you for that.
Damn, why are you not Permabanned yet.

[DaaxGhost]

Alrighty then, I am adding a few more smoothing numbers, and fixing the flashlight, and I will most likely get it in game and test it out. Maybe later on I may need beta testers. But not now, I'll alert you when the time comes. Here are some renders of my beautiful trigger (remade trigger ;) )

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh7.jpg

[Tweek]

http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07303/meh7.jpg

cut on white lines (all the way around) to fix gray-circled errors.

you can't just make a lowpoly, and chamfer shit and meshsmooth it.
doesn't work like that

[DaaxGhost]

cut on white lines (all the way around) to fix gray-circled errors.

you can't just make a lowpoly, and chamfer shit and meshsmooth it.
doesn't work like that
Did I ever say it worked like that now?, I have a demo tag. although its shitting up. I'm gonna fix those errors you pointed out tweek.

[ExAm]

Well, as a few of you know im currently working on a SPAS; I added new detail, Here are soem new images of what i have so far.

Tell me what you think could be added; deleted, or fixed. =)

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh4.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh3.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh2.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh.jpgIt's a SPAS-12. There's also the SPAS-15, so it's an important distinction. I suggest having a look at a side-on pic of one, so you can see the raised portion of the heatshield towards the rear. There's also somewhat of a lip on the back of the slide, which you'll have to model in. If I had a camera, I'd take a picture of my airsoft replica, but I don't have access to one right now. Also, your bolt is completely on the wrong side of the gun, and there's a bit of the muzzle you're missing. You're also forgetting the rear portion of the ghost ring sight. The SPAS-12 stock also has a hook mounted on the end of it, which allows the stock to be supported by an outstreched arm, enabling it to be fired by a single hand. You're also missing both safety levers, and the rear portion is slightly misshapen. You're also forgetting the forward and rear sling attachment points, and breach detail. Your bolt handle is off, and the slide goes up a little too far on the sides. SPAS-12 doesn't have room for a flashlight there. It's all magazine space. Also, shotguns don't get that kind of trigger. Additionally, the notch in your forward sight serves no purpose whatsoever, since

A. A shotgun doesn't need that kind of precision, and

B. It's too far away from the eye for it to have any positive effect whatsoever.


Remember when I told you it was missing "a few details"? I just listed them.
Christ, did you do this all from memory? You're developing the same bad habits as Peng :fail:

lol, criticism :downs:

[DaaxGhost]

It's just there to add some detail. That's all why I put it there; yea it served no purpose, I just wanted to make it look good. I'm still fixing some other crap that got messed up when I deleted them. I'm creating new flashlight becuase the old one kept corrupting.

[ExAm]

It's just there to add some detail. That's all why I put it there; yea it served no purpose, I just wanted to make it look good. I'm still fixing some other crap that got messed up when I deleted them. I'm creating new flashlight becuase the old one kept corrupting.Extend it beyond the magazine's length, to make it look reasonable, at least. You might also extend the barrel length a bit, to compensate for the lengthened flashlight, since the SPAS-12 does have a longer barreled variant:

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/Spas12.jpg

[DaaxGhost]

Extend it beyond the magazine's length, to make it look reasonable, at least. You might also extend the barrel length a bit, to compensate for the lengthened flashlight, since the SPAS-12 does have a longer barreled variant:

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/Spas12.jpg
Yep, i'm almost done and then I will post some renders of the fixes. =)

[ExAm]

Good. I feel like making something in Wings...

[}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O]

So do I..

[Tweek]

please, dont!
we'll all just end up yelling at you more.

on second thought.. PLEASE DO!
And make sure to post plenty of pics too!

[DaaxGhost]

please, dont!
we'll all just end up yelling at you more.

on second thought.. PLEASE DO!
And make sure to post plenty of pics too!
Oh god the back o' my head! Haha. Ok, i'm almost done with the trigger.

[DaaxGhost]

Fixed Render...

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh6.jpg

[ExAm]

Still missing all of the stuff I mentioned.

[DaaxGhost]

Still missing all of the stuff I mentioned.
Sorry wrong render. Anway I got the flash-light to be dynamic again. well half-way what i wanted. I need to fix one last smooth error on the gun cuase it keeps making the gun look like crrap in game. Its really annoying me. And how do i get a custom reload becuase i really can't reload with it. D:

[LlamaMaster]

Looks good enough to have sex with! In fact, may I? I just hope I don't get metal shavings in my dick like I did last time. :/

[FRain]

XDXDLMAO!

Sort of +rep given.

[}_50Æ{_|ñeا†«O]

0_o


EEww


I sduggest you try getting that in game for Unreal 3. That can handle higher polygon counts.

[DaaxGhost]

0_o


EEww


I sduggest you try getting that in game for Unreal 3. That can handle higher polygon counts.
Whats the EEww for? I Think it looks nice. But that's me. And I have no clue what Unreal 3 is.

/offtopic.
What is Unreal 3.

[Archon23]

Unreal 3 = Unreal Tournament 2007.

[DaaxGhost]

Unreal 3 = Unreal Tournament 2007.
Oh, ok. Well, I donno where I can get it. But this is going offtopic. I have figured out what the flashlight problem is, I just can't get a reload. Everytime I try and reload in game it just doesn't reload, it tries to and then freezes and exception only when I try and reload. Anyone know what this could be or how to fix it?

[kenney001]

Daxx, that is........amazing. I would sell it somewhere.

The only thing im woried about is trying to use that ingame. 44K polies is INSANE, especially for a weapon in a 7 year old FPS. It needs to be more like 3-4k pollies.

[Archon23]

Anyone else notice that Sarge bumped an almost 1 month old thread?

Edit: LOL (from his post)

http://www.h2vista.net/forums/C:\Documents (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/C:&#37;5CDocuments) and Settings\link\Mijn documenten\Mijn afbeeldingen\meh2(edited).JPG

[Bastinka]

http://www.h2vista.net/forums/C:\Documents (C:&#37;5CDocuments) and Settings\link\Mijn documenten\Mijn afbeeldingen\meh2(edited).JPG
Say what?

[LlamaMaster]

***sigh*** Somebody needs to ban sarge again...

[Tweek]

christ. this is funny shit.

[Con]

***sigh*** Somebody needs to ban sarge again...
.

[SnaFuBAR]

damnit, too much rep in 24 hours

[DaaxGhost]

Rep for what. lol?

[Tweek]

negative rep >_> genius

[Rosco]

Whats the EEww for? I Think it looks nice. But that's me. And I have no clue what Unreal 3 is.

/offtopic.
What is Unreal 3.
What llama said.

[DaaxGhost]

negative rep >_> genius
I think were going a little off topic.

But ExAm got me new refs, and I decided to use them for the flashlight. because they were good on that part. those look like they were taken of his airsoft gun.

[Sel]

I'd like to see this put in a game, but only out of curiosity. I want to see how fast it crashes my computer.

I bet mine will crash before yours.

[LlamaMaster]

negative rep >_> genius
-rep for who? I so fucking confused! :gonk:

[DaaxGhost]

Guys, c'mon. Let's not be distracted on what he said.
Not much of a difference but one tiny detail.
Before http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh9.jpg
After
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z115/daax_2007/meh1.jpg

[Tweek]

needs more polys

[BobtheGreatII]

needs more polys

You'll put your eye out kid.

Looks good. Keep it up...

[DaaxGhost]

Thanks, I'm still working on it.

[ExAm]

I think were going a little off topic.

But ExAm got me new refs, and I decided to use them for the flashlight. because they were good on that part. those look like they were taken of his airsoft gun.Still, from the length of the mag combined with the flashlight on your model, it'd still reduce the capacity by a couple of rounds or so, for the space now used by the flashlight's electronics. Yes, they were of my airsoft gun.

[Tweek]

You'll put your eye out kid.

Looks good. Keep it up...
don't call me kid kthnx.

[DEElekgolo]

you don't need to remodel it. If the optimize modifier doesnt screw it up too much then use it.

[t3h m00kz]

you don't need to remodel it. If the optimize modifier doesnt screw it up too much then use it.

Bump from hell, but yeah, what happened to this thing? Is it still in the works? ;o

[Disaster]

lol..i always love good bumps..but yeah..what ever happened to this thing?

[supersniper]

Lol bump...
I also will add to "What happened to this thing? o_O"

[ExAm]

I haven't seen Daax online in ages.

[Kalub]

don't call me kid kthnx.

Hey baby, MoMo says hi



http://nickelodeon.es/nick.es/images/shows/avatar/momo/189x189_momo.gif

[p0lar_bear]

Oh wow, I forgot about this. That is one sexy shotgun.

Also, I'm not locking this, just FYI, people. Bumping isn't against the rules, and I don't know why everyone thinks it is.

[SnaFuBAR]

it should only be allowed to be bumped by the author or someone with contribution. "lol hay wut hapond tew dis stof" should be an infraction.

[DaaxGhost]

Sorry Guys. I've been working... Got a Job. Been on break, I have worked on the SPAS but not much progress I'm animating right now. But I'm sorry I haven't been on in so long.

[DaaxGhost]

BUMPBUMPBUMP

2011 Finished after 3 years, 2 of which was not worked on due to inactivity. Back to show the ending result ;D

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4280/daaxrender2011finally.jpg

Ending Tris: 8000 TRIS

Render help thanks to wolf.
Thanks all!

[Rainbow Dash]

GIVE US THE TAGS

[ThePlague]

holy shit, where have you been Daax?

[DaaxGhost]

Just been inactive, school and what not, I usually always come back around summer time ;) now that the hardest part of school is over I plan to stay !

NVOUS. The tags have not yet been created, as I just have finished the model after SOOOO LONG. hahaha I will post them up as soon as possible!

[Spartan094]

Ever fix that smoothing error on the back ;)

[DaaxGhost]

Ever fix that smoothing error on the back ;)

Yes indeed I did, worked for a bit on it, figured out i had welded in the ABSOLUTE WRONG SPOT.. took a bit to undo ;P

I'm going to get the tags ready after I add some final touches to it :)