Falling Leaf Systems: Alky Update!

[jahrain]

The official release of XP compatability library for halo 2 release date has been announced! I have had my doubts, but I have been waiting for this a long time now. It supposed to support multiplayer as well as live. Anyways, the release date is set for the 15th, however, there may be delays. This was originally supposed to be out in late july. Heres the quote from the site:


Alky for Games - Free Edition


The Free Edition of Alky for Games is expected to launch on the 15th of August 2007 with full support for Halo 2. Support for Shadowrun will be added shortly thereafter.


There are also other tools out as well that allow further XP compatibility for vista applications such as the side bar, screen savers etc. The DX10 compatibility libraries for XP aren't set for release until this winter though... :/

Heres the link to the update. (http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/compatibility/)

[Con]

Are they allowed to do that, make Halo 2 run on XP? Microsoft would sue the pants off them.

[jahrain]

Are they allowed to do that, make Halo 2 run on XP? Microsoft would sue the pants off them.The law protects them from being sued for that unless they violate any copyright infringements which they aren't. Its only going to be a set of their own dlls that allow you to run vista games in xp. Besides, other makers of xp loaders weren't sued, nor were makers of compatibility libraries for Linux and OSX to run windows games.

[Limited]

Wait so they are giving the dll's out for free? ("Free Edition")?

If so I'm defiantly going to get halo 2 vista, I'm considering getting it right now just got SP as I havent played SP :)

I want proof it works for LIVE though :P

[Greenglow2004]

awsome cant wait to try this !

[[EJ] Bean]

finaly all my friends may actualy be able to play with me... Is it jsut me or is there never more than 15 people on live at any one time?

[jahrain]

I have only seen a maximum of 30 players online once. Most of which are people alone all by themselves in their own gold only server. Usually theres about 15 to 20 players online on average. Boy did this game screw up... However, the player counts might triple once XP users can play online. It may sky rocket to be like Halo PC if XP becomes officially supported via update by microsoft and the newer version is put up on the shelves at game stores that support xp.

[[EJ] Bean]

Why are there gold only servers? Does halo 2 make player hosted games gold only by default?

[DaneO'Roo]

wtf, 30 people online in live?

thats WORSE than CE >____________>


Looks like I'm getting h2v after all.

[jahrain]

Bean;133451']Why are there gold only servers? Does halo 2 make player hosted games gold only by default?Not only by default, but there is no option. Player hosted games are gold only. You need gold to host it, and you need gold to join it.

[Wakeboy1337]

Yeah Which is why I rebuilt an old PC just for Dedicated server

[[EJ] Bean]

Wow. So, Unless I want to fork over $50 dollars in addition to what I've already paid I can't play my own maps with my friends?

[jahrain]

Bean;133460']Wow. So, Unless I want to fork over $50 dollars in addition to what I've already paid I can't play my own maps with my friends?
Exactly. Unless you can convince one of your friends to have the dedicated server dictate their computer. They won't be able to play however. If you are running the dedicated server, you can't play online while the dedicated server is running. This is done so you have no work around purchasing a gold subscription. Also, hamachi and other LAN tunneling applications have been blocked by h2v for the same reason. Welcome to microsoft's vision for the future of PC online gaming.

[[EJ] Bean]

Is there some way to block that feature? I mean it seems a little out of the way to incooperate it into the game itself. Maybe it originates with windows live?

[Elite Killa]

Finally. A release date. I've been waiting...

[jahrain]

Bean;133471']Is there some way to block that feature? I mean it seems a little out of the way to incooperate it into the game itself. Maybe it originates with windows live?Not unless you have 2 separate Internet service providers and have one PC hooked up to the one service for your gaming computer, and another to the computer which you will run the dedicated server on. I can't think of any other way around it. And yes windows live is to blame. They went way out of their way to make the game vista exclusive, so I'm pretty sure they also went way out of their way to also make the game enforce usage of Live on the players.

[bitterbanana]

Are you saying that no more than 30 people are playing Halo 2 Vista at any given time? I thought I was the only who hasn't bought it yet. I'm still waiting for a demo.

[jahrain]

I believe that at one time, someone said they seen about 50 players online. I have never seen more than about 30 myself.

[bitterbanana]

Well actually, that makes very happy. I'm glad people aren't putting up with Live. I guess not even the biggest FPS franchise name in history can make PC gamers pay for free features.

[[EJ] Bean]

I feel like I wasted my money on this new pc... at least it is new...

[Cortexian]

Bean;133517']I feel like I wasted my money on this new pc... at least it is new...
pffft, you can never waste money on a new computer.

Crysis

:awesome:

[et_cg]

Haha...


A computer is litterally a waste of money. All we do is upgrade relentlessly, giving others money, and a chance to build more tech that will make us buy more. And more and more... it's a vicious cycle. I wish I never had gotten into my computer fetish sometimes.

[Vicky]

If you are running the dedicated server, you can't play online while the dedicated server is running.
Eh :confused: I can host a ded and play online... also on my own ded.

[Kornman00]

Jahrain, please actually COLLECT data before you start posting "statistics".

And I lol'd when I read "free edition".

[Vicky]

Great news btw, bye bye vista :)

[dcemuser]

30 people in LIVE?!?! You must have some weird firewall settings preventing you from seeing games or something. I always see ~50-150.

[Tweek]

dude, read what you just posted. 150 people.. worldwide.. on a multiplayer game..

that's fucking rediculous. that equals NOBODY PLAYS IT!
fuck, compared to that number even MY MOD has a good playerbase.
and we don't.

[Limited]

There is more people who play halo 2 on XP than Vista. You cant play online on xp, hense why the numbers are low, I bet if this alky thingy works online numbers will increase dramatically.

Not everyone has run out and bought vista you know, yes there has been alot of vista sales but still.

[xhedgehogx]

Everytime I'm on H2PC, there's atleast 50 people on. I've never seen any under 45.

[Agamemnon]

Not everyone has run out and bought vista you know, yes there has been alot of vista sales but still.
I'm one of those people. I am in no rush to go off and get the new OS, especially when the only thing I'm missing out on is Halo 2 Vista, and from all of this news, apparently I'm not missing out on much. Then this comes around, and it seems I won't be missing out at all.

[beele]

I'm really exited to see how well the performance of the games emulated like that will be.

I hope it has better performance then vista, then I might get my brother a copy of halo 2 for his XP.

[Zeph]

Zeph's review shows more than 40 people playing.
http://www.h2ek.com/resources/review/pics/browser_working.jpg

[[EJ] Bean]

It's still ridiculous

[jahrain]

I'm pretty confident that the player numbers will increase drastically once XP players can play online. But still another issues thats working like bug repellent against gamers is paying for Live. Silver feels like a 'free trial' of online multiplayer with the most basic of FPS online feature disabled unless you pay recurring subscription fees for Live. I still never understood how they managed to get away with charging for online multiplayer on the xbox, but I guess its because it was something new to console gamers.

[TeeKup]

wtf, 30 people online in live?

thats WORSE than CE >____________>


Looks like I'm getting h2v after all.

My god. CE gets AT LEAST 200 people a day. H2V fucking SUCKS.

[jahrain]

Theres about 45 people on right now :O

On another note:

Our excitement over the announcement of "Alky for Applications" is tempered by the fact that we regretfully also announce that support for Halo 2 and Shadowrun will not come until the middle or end of August. The main reason for the short delay stems from the difficulty of implementing Windows Live support in a truly transparent manner. It has proven more difficult than we first envisioned, but we are making great strides. While many will be disappointed or even a bit angry, we hope that the prevention of having your Live account banned will be worth the wait.
link (http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/)

[The Reaper]

OMG! you are the bringer of both good and bad news aren't you jahrain? lol

hmm.. doesn't matter the time, as long as it comes out I suppose =|

[Bodzilla]

This is awesome.

i nearly feel like buying H2V.
but tbh i need more.

my hearts been broken so many times by this game and the strings and bullshit attached to it.

[bitterbanana]

These guys are doing a great service to us. There's no need to rush them.

[wannabeapilot]

if H2V players invade with xp then i wont be #14 in the rankings anymore :( (yes i know i droped back)

we don't have matchmaking though:confused2:

[Con]

if H2V players invade with xp then i wont be #14 in the rankings anymore :( (yes i know i droped back)

..what rankings

[[EJ] Bean]

if H2V players invade with xp then i wont be #14 in the rankings anymore :( (yes i know i droped back)

dosen't realy matter, us silver users dont even have multiplayers acheivements. I can't tell how many i got the ninja one and it just goes to the wind..

[PTS]

Not sure if anybody cares but you guys are probably looking at the server list with "Show Full Servers toggled OFF". You can see this by looking at the server list by selecting Custom.

At peak hours this game usually has 100, 200+ players. Not much but hardly 30-40.

[jahrain]

^That is only for gold members... Silver members can't use server filters.

[nooBBooze]

Idk but i have the feeling this whole Live thing for halo 2 didnt add any fancy extra options and functions for gold members (lol) to the game but locked down the standard ones for the cheap Silver ppl. omg..so an already crappy game gets even crappier if ur not willing to pay an extra 100+ Bucks-damn. Could be wrong though like most of the time :(

Back on topic: First one to develop a fully working version H2 for XP gets a cookie and 10 bucks for the upcoming MS lawsiuit. Just remember: Release it BEFORE bill gates sues your ass off.

[Apoc4lypse]

I have only seen a maximum of 30 players online once. Most of which are people alone all by themselves in their own gold only server. Usually theres about 15 to 20 players online on average. Boy did this game screw up... However, the player counts might triple once XP users can play online. It may sky rocket to be like Halo PC if XP becomes officially supported via update by microsoft and the newer version is put up on the shelves at game stores that support xp.

if that happened, then yes I wud buy it, well after I got a new gfx card...

[wannabeapilot]

if you check the website the release date for the halo 2 compatibility thing is today

hopefully its true :)

[Elite Killa]

if you check the website the release date for the halo 2 compatibility thing is today

hopefully its true :)
I'm starting to think it isn't true. It still isn't out and from where I live it's 9:15 p.m. I don't know why but I kind of expected this...

[t3h m00kz]

I'm starting to think it isn't true. It still isn't out and from where I live it's 9:15 p.m. I don't know why but I kind of expected this...

Ditto. :\

[bleach]

I'm getting Halo 2 Vista then!

[Metroid4593]

=/ I'm starting to wonder if this is real or just bullcrap.

[Agamemnon]

http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/


Our excitement over the announcement of "Alky for Applications" is tempered by the fact that we regretfully also announce that support for Halo 2 and Shadowrun will not come until the middle or end of August. The main reason for the short delay stems from the difficulty of implementing Windows Live support in a truly transparent manner. It has proven more difficult than we first envisioned, but we are making great strides. While many will be disappointed or even a bit angry, we hope that the prevention of having your Live account banned will be worth the wait.

[Cortexian]

http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/
If there's a chance that your Xbox Live account can get banned by using this, I doubt that if they get it working, Microsoft will let it live for long.

[Agamemnon]

Just create another one then if you're really worried about it.

[AAA]

Why would Microsoft care if we were on? We bought the game, They get their money, Quite a few people have already switched to Vista. Leaving almost a thousand people out of this switch isn't going to hurt them, they make money from other things, gotta remember that.
They gave us Windows for a reason. To do our daily jobs, work and other things we may or may not enjoy, but just to make our lives easier. Now, over the years they've sought to take greed in this old generosity to make them even more rich they already fucking are. As far as I'm concerned, with the anger they might have about money and Halo for Vista only, they can blow that shit out their ass.

Fin.

Note: Their greed came waaayy before Halo.

[Agamemnon]

Wait, they only got greedy recently?

[Cortexian]

I was under the impression that they were always greedy. As I said, I'm doubting they will let this live.

[t3h m00kz]

http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/

I thought that was BEFORE they set the release date... but whatever lol

[Con]

As I said, I'm doubting they will let this live.
If what Jahrain said (that the makers of the library are protected by law), then Microsoft has no choice but to let it.

[Agamemnon]

I thought that was BEFORE they set the release date... but whatever lol
They could've set the release date a month or so ago. We don't know if their site is up-to-date or not.

[Agamemnon]

Are you incapable of reading?

[Agamemnon]

http://alkyproject.blogspot.com/


Our excitement over the announcement of "Alky for Applications" is tempered by the fact that we regretfully also announce that support for Halo 2 and Shadowrun will not come until the middle or end of August. The main reason for the short delay stems from the difficulty of implementing Windows Live support in a truly transparent manner. It has proven more difficult than we first envisioned, but we are making great strides. While many will be disappointed or even a bit angry, we hope that the prevention of having your Live account banned will be worth the wait.
Sorry, you said you were able to read?

[Rosco]

yes


so please dont make smart comments when you dident read yourself

It was a smart comment.


I read EXPECTED. Not guranteed.

[Limited]

will not come until the middle or end of August
Yeah middle = 15th? Therefore it could come out soon, sadly it didnt come out yesterday =\

Also M$ could claim its effecting their game it being on XP. So they can and will win if they wanted to :O

Also, I did tell you guys ages ago that M$ were greedy and watched to screw us all and everyone disagreed. :O

[Miso]

I guess I new it would happen sooner or later, only problem is I don't think the wait was worth it for other people, live not only lacks people but the games that are available are just plain stupid.. Rockets everywhere, I'm lucky enough to find a lockout game with rockets <I love lockout, hate rockets> and not only that but man I'm tired of all the lag.:mad:

[Con]

I wish pings were displayed as numbers again rather than little bars. That tells us nothing.

[Kornman00]

I wish pings were displayed as numbers again rather than little bars. That tells us nothing.
but conscars! don't you just love the xbox feel of h2v :-3?

[Vicky]

I once banned a guy from australia while i'm in holland :XD:, he 'somewhat lagged' and was totally in the red. In red should be autoban :rolleyes:

[Kornman00]

I once banned a guy from australia while i'm in holland :XD:, he 'somewhat lagged' and was totally in the red. In red should be autoban :rolleyes:
So should rep, but I digress :rolleyes:....

[Con]

but conscars! don't you just love the xbox feel of h2v :-3?
You're right, I can't resist.

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