[WIP] Compound

[paladin]

I have been hesitant to make this public, mainly because the lack of progress I make on it each week. This is more of a side project I work on in my spare time and have been working on for about 7 months or so now. It has gone through several transformations, has been implemented into Halo CE a few times, and has very little original geometry visible.

This map is far from done. It has gone through 3 total makeovers since I've started it and I assume it will go through a few more in the future. The reason why I bring it public is because I want it to be for Halo Vista, which I do not have, yet. Which makes it sort of hard to do. In a nut shell, I am looking for a partner to port it for me.

The map is a futuristic military compound found in the rocky coasts of Africa. Nestled into the wind-blown sandstone lies several bunkers and platforms that once saw a large amount of equipment. Now, with recent events in the Covenant-Human war, it has been abandoned and awaits demolition, scheduled on an unconfirmed date.

Pictures:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3130/001sk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5586/002am1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


A quick fly through of the map, I mean quick will be up shortly. I can't figure out how to slow the frame rate down.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rva-2rGIyaY

Overall, I'd say that the make is about 40% done with. That is though, not including the details I will go back add.

So, hows it look so far.

[Con]

Wow this looks like a really fun map! I love it so far, and I can't wait to see it textured.

+rep

[leorimolo]

WOW very nicee.... Althought why is there a flaying vehicle that carries warhogs on the roof of the building?

LEo, also +rep

[SMASH]

It has gone through several transformations.

Is there more than meets the eye?

LOL, jk, looks awesome!

[Con]

Maybe it was carrying troops or something :X

[LlamaMaster]

Looks like complete awesome! Now, I just need H2v...

[Stealth]

Maybe it was carrying troops or something :X
maybe it's made so you put a loaded warthog in there and it lands, and opens up and the hog goes up a gunen.
oh, and nice map, it looks so cool.

[Flyboy]

Holy shit. Reminds me of high ground for some reason. Nice model.

[paladin]

Holy shit. Reminds me of high ground for some reason. Nice model.

Probably because I've spent hours gazing at picture of it.

[Ki11a_FTW]

0_0 nice

[Bastinka]

Very nice, how much? :-3

[paladin]

$150/ 1/2 hour. $250/ hour.

[Bastinka]

I can afford the 1/2 Hour, Paypal or mail? :)

[DaneO'Roo]

fucking awesome

[SnaFuBAR]

very nice looking so far.

[legionaire45]

I'm lovin' it.

[Neuro Guro]

See now this is what I like to see when I click a WIP thread, something thats taking a good style and making it original and unique. + Rep

[SnaFuBAR]

and thus far, well developed. none of that "i got a animashun" or "i did half a building lol" crap. THIS is how to show your work, people.

[Terin]

I dunno, I like those people who have ambitious projects to create a whole new world in a map and have 50 polygons of work to show for it.

But this map looks like it has the asymmetrical goodness that makes levels like Lockout so popular. Plus, it's very well modeled. Good job.

[Tweek]

that actually looks really good, nice and complex, crammed together. i love it! you gets rep

[teh lag]

:gonk: why is it that all of your maps win?

[CrippieBoy]

ha, this looks to be another great map that wont be released.

hopefully you prove me wrong cause this would be awesome to play on!

[LlamaMaster]

:gonk: why is it that all of your maps win?
Don't worry laggy, your maps win too. <3

[paladin]

ha, this looks to be another great map that wont be released.


QFT really, lol. No I plan on actually finishing this one, but if anyone remembers, this was originally the pemba remake model, then I overhauled it and changed it. Thanks for the + comments. Any advice though on the architecture?

[Bastinka]

Nope, it pretty much looks flawless. :awesome:

[paladin]

TBH, if you saw it up close, everythings pretty blocky. Last ngiht I decided I would go back and make a straight verticle wall vary and have more architecture. Ill try and get some shots of the inside. You guys havent seen it yet and its pretty elaborate.

[Bastinka]

It looks nice, could see a good zombie fight going on there. :)

[Greenglow2004]

Wow i really like ur modeling style. this actually looks like it will be lots of fun to play !

[hobojoe]

looks very good. I'd really like to see this in game

[JackRabbit72380]

Fantastic Looking map Paladin !
Oh & Is That a pelican I see thare ?

[Sever]

That's the drop-pod from the Albatross, which can also be seen on the stock map 'Relic'.

[JackRabbit72380]

That's the drop-pod from the Albatross, which can also be seen on the stock map 'Relic'.Wow!

[paladin]

Its only there for a scaling reference.

[paladin]

A reasonable bump. A quick update. I added some more to the compound and worked on the cliffs some more. Heres a picture of something looking closer to the final producccct.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3271/002vq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Bastinka]

Nice.

[Ki11a_FTW]

dude that is looking amazing, +rep

[Stealth]

cool, what happened to the drop ship. oh well, the water looks nice, keep it up I just wish there was a Halo 3 PC with custom maps, and see how your make would look with Halo 3 lighting. o.0 that'd be the day.

[Con]

Looks nice, good work :)

[Neuro Guro]

-

[xExus]

Freakin awesome, can't wait to 100%

Or a beta.

[JunkfoodMan]

Incredible. Do want in .map format.

[Bastinka]

Damn, I just looked up and saw 'H2V' :saddowns:

Didn't realize this was a H2v map.

[Mass]

Damn, I just looked up and saw 'H2V' :saddowns:

Didn't realize this was a H2v map.
:(
Dual release maybe?:)

[Stealth]

Damn, I just looked up and saw 'H2V' :saddowns:

Didn't realize this was a H2v map.
dude, this is the "Halo 2 Vista Editing & General Discussion" if some one posts a wip in this part of the forums it's for H2V, not Halo CE. but yea dual release might be nice.

[paladin]

I finally got Vista last Friday, so i have been playing around with the editing kit. Im still trying to figure somethings out, but I might have a first build in game soon.

About naming bitmaps in max, the prefix to the name is the location of the bitmap. for example: f_im is forerunner_industrial metals. so a bitmap in the zanzibar folder would be m_z?

[Llama Juice]

Nope, the prefix to the material name is decided by the .shader_collections file.

According to that the prefix for the zanzibar folder is the word "zanzibar"


you can find the .shader_collections file in tags/scenarios/shaders/

[paladin]

Ok, this is really starting to get to me. I cannot figure out the naming system for bitmaps.

I have a custom .tif is located at data\scenarios\bitmaps\multi\compound "main_cliff.tif"\

So in max, do i call it "compound main_cliff"?

the bitmap at tags\scenarios\bitmaps\multi\compound "main_cliff.bitmap"

the shader at tags\scenarios\shaders\multi\compound "cliff.shader"

So when I compile the map it doesn't find the the bitmap of shader. What am I doing wrong :(

[Scooby Doo]

you suck, paladin :]

lol...

[dark navi]

Told -,-

[Con]

Hey dark navi, go spam on some other forum

Paladin, visit my article:
http://www.h2ek.com/wiki/index.php?title=Shader_collections

[paladin]

Thanks you. And jake go away.

EDIT: Scooby, where have you been. Ive been needing to talk to you for like a month now...

[Bastinka]

Scooby, where have you been. Ive been needing to talk to you for like a month now...
He has a girlfriend.. and something he calls a life. :(

Tragedy.. We all miss scooby though.

[paladin]

Update: Started texturing the thing. I started making the beach texture, though you cant really see it. The others are just place holders.

I have what you see in game but I still learning about that part. I still cant get the new collections file to work. I read the tutorial in the Wiki but When a save it with the name location it doesn't work. Ill keep screwing around with it.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7392/004eu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4153/003kv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Reaper Man]

Looking :awesome:.

[Sever]

Looking :awesome:.

Agreed. Also, not to nag, but the whole community would LOVE a HCE release of this map. *wink wink, nudge nudge, PUNCH PUNCH*

[SMASH]

That looks better than amazing...

[856891]

wow nice

[paladin]

Agreed. Also, not to nag, but the whole community would LOVE a HCE release of this map. *wink wink, nudge nudge, PUNCH PUNCH*

Maybe, but it would be sort of a hassle because of how different Halo CE and Halo 2 Vista editing are. But I'll think it.

[Sever]

Just as long as there's a chance, :awesome:.

Its quite interesting seeing how the map evolved over the months. The first pic I saw was back when it was Zanzibar V2, and I only see one thing from that stage still in the map (Active Camouflage Tower).

I can totally see this map playing like Lockout + Turf + Zanzibar (which by the way equals WIN).

[Stealth]

cool, it's looking :awesome:

[xExus]

now that's just amazing. Looks like there's going to be much close-combat (:

[Con]

Nice work!

[paladin]

alot nicer. The cliffs need to be UVW'd alittle smaller because the MC is small

In max units
25(w)25(l)100(h) while standing so thats what i go by and put the camera by the top of the box and see if it looks ok

I just started on the textures so nothing is permanent. And your a little off on your MC size;)

[Ki11a_FTW]

Nice work!
^

[paladin]

I thought he was only about 75 units high :)

[Patrickssj6]

I thought he was only about 75 units high :)
Maybe he has grown since H1?

Well he was ~75 (in 3ds max and ~0.75 in-game) units high in H1, you are right with that. :)

[paladin]

I didn't think the game was real enough for MC to grow...lol It doesn't matter, I will remap all textures before its done.

[Scooby Doo]

hmmmm...i'm not entirely gone. just had a lil break. i'm working my way back, slowly...

anyways, it's looking nice, mate!

[LlamaMaster]

Wow dude that looks awesome! Just one thing though, can you pleaseeeeeeee finish this one? Most of your models in the past never turned into maps.

[paladin]

Yes I will. And Brent, I know of your many other aliases floating around here....

[Scooby Doo]

huh? wtf r u talking about scotty-doo? lol

anyways, u better finish it, ho, or else...

ima be all over u like white on rice until this is done.


BTW, how come u never get on aim anymore? just contact me sometime...

[paladin]

I do get on, your just never on when I get on.

[Skyline]

h2v it is 95 units high.
Nope.


Player Dimensions (Generic 3ds Max Units)
Key: [length(depth) &#215; width &#215; height]
Full Height (Standing) 18.418 &#215; 29.828 &#215; 70.127
Height (Ready Pose) 28.198 &#215; 39.376 &#215; 65.11
Crouched 43.372 &#215; 30.719 &#215; 42.455

[Scooby Doo]

nuck if you buck, boy. seriously...get on aim earlier.

[paladin]

yes for hce (im guess i dont do hce) but if your doing h2v it is 95 units high. and if you gave me -rep for that so be it cause i really fucking dont care.

I never -repped you.

Anyways, heres a quick update:

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7908/005xw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7725/006qk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I need some one whose good at creating metal textures to help me out. I have a few models that need to be unwrapped and textured.

[Pooky]

Update: Started texturing the thing. I started making the beach texture, though you cant really see it. The others are just place holders.

I have what you see in game but I still learning about that part. I still cant get the new collections file to work. I read the tutorial in the Wiki but When a save it with the name location it doesn't work. Ill keep screwing around with it.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7392/004eu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4153/003kv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yours is the first community map I like the look and apparent gameplay of. Nice.

[jngrow]

Looks GODLY, just change the cliff shape up a bit, its kinda repititive.

[Con]

Looks great, although it would be nice if the beach part of the map was expanded more to provide another route or a scenic location.

[Sever]

Needs an island in that sandy cove.

[paladin]

Looks great, although it would be nice if the beach part of the map was expanded more to provide another route or a scenic location.


Needs an island in that sandy cove.

I am still working with the actual water line. On one side there is actually a beach path. Currently it is about waste deep water.

Again nothing is permanent and this is still a pre-alpha model thats only about 30% or so done. But I will try my best to incorporate a beach path in the map.:)

[Con]

Sounds good, I like the setting you've chosen. It's very original.

[DaneO'Roo]

I'm really not liking the use of textures and the cliffs modeling is really....the cliffs look like a souffl&#233;

[Llama Juice]

I'm really not liking the use of textures and the cliffs modeling is really....the cliffs look like a soufflé

He said the textures were place holders, but I agree the cliffs need some work.

[Patrickssj6]

Famazing?

[paladin]

I'm really not liking the use of textures and the cliffs modeling is really....the cliffs look like a soufflé


He said the textures were place holders, but I agree the cliffs need some work.

I also agree, part of the cliff was reused from the first model and the rest was rushed so that I could get the level in-game. I do plan on going back and reworking the layout and look of them.

[beele]

Wow, That looks amazing, keep up the good work.

[hobojoe]

Great Job! I can't wait to see the gameplay

[Corndogman]

this looks awesome i cant wait for this. i cant wait to see this textured and in game. +rep for you. lets see....

[TPBlinD]

God I can't wait to play this map :)

[paladin]

Oh, but the wait will be shorter than you think ;)

[Flyboy]

Has anyone pointed out that compound is the name of a Halo 3 map?

Name change anyone?

[Tweek]

halo3 isnt out yet

[calky360]

There is no halo 3 map named compound that is known of at least. Even all the leaked maps and the map names which were found out from code from the beta there is no compound.

[Flyboy]

halo3 isnt out yet
Neither is this, but it's been confirmed by the people who already have the game (ebay).

[Stealth]

Neither is this, but it's been confirmed by the people who already have the game (ebay).
let me get this stright, you're going by the word of some one on the internet, who go the game off of ebay, that all you could know, could be some fat old guy trying to trick you. :shake: if you believe that, then I might believe that there is a Halo 3 PC beta coming out in Dec. dude, until Bungie posts a weekly update or something about it saying there is a Halo 3 map called compound, or I see it with my own eyes, on my TV, with my Xbox 360, with my copy of Halo 3, I'm not going to believe you. There is no point in changing the name of this map unless Bungie themselves slaps some news on this "confirmed" Halo 3 MP map called compound.

[Flyboy]

Ah so I suppose the campaign cut scene leaks, the map slots we've seen from the beta and all the new armor we've seen in pictures (but hasn't been officially announced) is all bull shit too.

Lets make a bet stealth, you win, you can make me look like an idiot. I win, well, nothing happens because I already know the answer.

Also, he doesn't need to change the map, I was just pointing it out in case he didn't want to have the same name (I wouldn't).

[stunt_man]

Both of you are morons for arguing about something so ridiculously off topic and stupid that it makes me wonder why I'm even replying.

You really think Bungie gives a shit if you name a map the same as theirs (allegedly)?

'Nuff said.

[Flyboy]

Neither of us are morons. No, I do not believe bungie, or this guy, gives a living shit about if they have the same name. I was just throwing in my two cents about how if I was making the map, I wouldn't want to have the exact same name as something bungie made.

[paladin]

The name stays. This is for a completely different game than Halo 3 so why should it matter if there is a level with the same name.

[Stealth]

Neither of us are morons.
Flyboy is right, we're not morons, we're just hard headed, and stuborn(SP?).:embarrassed:

No, I do not believe bungie, or this guy, gives a living shit about if they have the same name. I was just throwing in my two cents about how if I was making the map, I wouldn't want to have the exact same name as something bungie made. Flyboy, I guess you were right, there was a Halo 3 map named compound, I'm sorry for ever saying any thing rude, or unneeded at you. but I think this map needs to keep it's name, unless some one can find a better name.

[calky360]

Stealth where did you see that their is a map in halo 3 called compound?
If you watch this video of someone with the full game it shows the whole map list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Xn0U2NTws

This is whats on the list:

Construct
Epitah
Guardian
Highground
Isolation
Last Resort
Narrows
Sandtrap
Snowbound
The Pit
Valhalla

[Mass]

Stealth where did you see that their is a map in halo 3 called compound?
If you watch this video of someone with the full game it shows the whole map list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Xn0U2NTws

This is whats on the list:

Construct
Epitah
Guardian
Highground
Isolation
Last Resort
Narrows
Sandtrap
Snowbound
The Pit
Valhalla

hmmm, short. I smell some pricey downloadable content. D:

Also, seriously, who gives a crap if it has the same name, I mean, there is an older CE map named the narrows, and did bungie give a crap? no. Because they don't have to and neither does paladin. They're different games.
Plus, if someone wanted to do a remake they might have to add H3_ to the name. oh teh noes.

[paladin]

Can you guys knock off the off topic chatter here please.

[paladin]

Hey guys! Sorry for the down time. There has been a million things going on right now. I know it may seem like this has not made any progress, but it has! Halo 3 has really taken a chunk of my time away; so has school. I recently upgraded my operating system from the 32-bit VHP to 64-bit VHP and so I have been busy porting my files. The bad thing is I only stored my data sets and not my tag sets, so I will have to recreate the shaders for the map. But that is not too bad because I have a whole new texture set I have been working on. After playing Halo 3, especially High Grounds which was a huge inspiration for this map, I have been able to go back and add tremendous amounts of detail. The modeling still continues. The base model is near complete but I am still moving various parts around to make the game play better.

Again, I am sorry for the lack of updates, but I promise that soon it will be at least playable for at least a select few. Ill update later with some of the new content, but for now just take my word that it is still trucking along.

[Con]

Thanks for the update, keep up the good work :)

[Sever]

Keep it up! The more detail the better. If you need any help with weapons and spawn placement, contact me. I can get a layout just right so every part of the map will be used the way its designer (YOU!) intended.

[Scooby Doo]

wtf...october was the last update? c'mon man, it's january. don't make me hunt you down. i wunna see some good stuff here asap.

~Scoob

[Con]

yeah, what happened to this

[paladin]

Traveled to Europe
football practive
2md place football title
soccer practice
mid term
senior project
college tours
homework
job
xbox
girlfriend
friends
wrestling
snowboarding
christmas
new years
college applications
college acceptance
new dog
new computer

let me get back to you when i can think of more. Sorry guys. I havent open max since, well, october, and probably wont until summer. Or at least after march. I want to work on it, I just have no time.

[paladin]

Lol honk honk, blarg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5486/fshdfuadshufaaaaex5.jpg
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2474/lolonmg1ve5.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1919/haalosfasdfik3.jpg

Dont expect much, but Its back in production. New layout (slightly) and new areas.

[Flyboy]

Very nice. Windows could use a bit of work but very nice.

[paladin]

I need help with some things. Anyone want to help?

[PenGuin1362]

Define things

[paladin]

Certain objects, and parts of the map to get it fully functiong in game.
One thing is an anchor. A larger Medgafreighter anchor as kind of a monument for the level.

Just details to make the map more realistic. Potentially I would like to have someone texture it and get it in game. I like modeling, not so much the other stuff.

[Sever]

I have a suggestion - give each building a definite purpose. Is it a warehouse, a communications center, a barracks, etc.? It helps to have locations that can be easily recognized by anyone who is playing on the map, and also makes it more aesthetically accessible to the player.

[paladin]

Trust me, they do. Ive put hours of thought into the new layout and making sure each has a tactical purpose and no bottle necks.

Each area has essentially an entrance and exit. The "bases" aka where objective are located, not necessarily a base, are either in a central area or have multiple (3 or 4) ways of accessing them.

[KIWIDOGGIE]

Holy crap, I thought it looked nice before; Keep IT GOING! I really want to play this.

[paladin]

Thanks. Ill update some pics in a bit.

[hobojoe]

Yes! Great to see this map back in action.

[I_Am_Error117]

I wasn't going to buy H2V.....

[jngrow]

If the sandy "floor"/area is accessible, awesome. If not, still awesome. This will definitely be THE H2V custom map. This is one of the first maps I've seen in a while where I can actually picture the gameplay.

[paladin]

Yeah you can, its going to be an essential part of an objective game type.

[Anton]

Looks great. :] I wish my modeling skill was anywhere near yours.

[{XF}Lowsy]

Any expected time for "testing"? Or are you still deep into the modeling part.

I look forward to playing in this one as well. You've got a lot of us excited..

No pressure...

[paladin]

Its been test lots of times. A few people played with me on the internet, they jsut joined my game and dled the map. Most of them said it sucked because there were no textures, but I was testing heights.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Most of them said it sucked

Well most of them dont know what there talking about now do they :eng101:

[paladin]

ty.

EDIT: I need someones help. PM or IM

VivaRocktisity

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9328/lololololololcopyea2.jpg
playable part in blue

[xExus]

Wow, im really looking forward to this map.

[paladin]

Again, I need help.

If you are interested, pm me with an example of your previous work or something to demonstrate your abilities. I'm really looking for someone decent in Photoshop and H2 editing kit.

[paladin]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6380/pictureqy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Gutted now the fun begins... not.

[Con]

mmm, sexy, can't wait :3

[Disaster]

Man, I wish this was for CE also.

[Flyboy]

Man, I wish this was for CE also.
Lalalalalalalalala can't hear you!

We need more H2v maps to hopefully give the mod community a good kick start. I doubt this will do it alone but with a few others good maps there's a possibility that people might actually start using the game.

[paladin]

Several builds are in ce. In fact I was just playing it in ce. :0

[SgtBotley]

Yes Paladin, most definitely release this for CE. :D

[paladin]

MB it already has (http://www.google.com)...

[paladin]

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5026/4433nm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9287/12312rw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Scooby Doo]

me likes...ttyl.


~Scooby

[paladin]

Get online...

[Corndogman]

Looks really nice, i think the sky really fits well with this map. good job man.

[paladin]

Unfortunately the sky is rendered in 3ds max :(

[Corndogman]

Unfortunately the sky is rendered in 3ds max :(

maik new sky 4 CE gogogo!

[jngrow]

MB it already has (http://www.google.com)...
Ok sorry but I couldn't find anything to save my life. Lookin good tho.

[paladin]

Oh, it was on halomaps.org awhile ago. I dunno what happened to it.

[Timo]

Looking totally badass man, good work!

[StankBacon]

very nice.

[paintballakid5]

it looks like a more complex version and style of Highground. +rep.:)

[spartan463]

whats going on
is it still in the making. hope it comes out soon or your still working on it

[paladin]

Patients young Padawan
Its in the hands of another, actually a God.

[Computron]

Fack, 2 years later and still nothing.

[BobtheGreatII]

Holy bump.

I'm slightly curious what happened to this too.