So whoever has a PS3,360,or Wii how is it?

[Superhalo2fan]

Well I already have a PS3 and a 360 from my title but I was just wondering how are your guys consoles going and what games do you guys have for it.

[X3RO SHIF7]

My 360 is good, GoW <3 waiting for a few new games, and im trying to get me a wii - played wisports and its very funn - wii60 ftw!

[Superhalo2fan]

cool cool I can see that you guys really dont like Sony cause I rarely see you guys have the least word of Sony but anyway yeah GOW is awsome.Yeah I played the Wii at my local EB Games I was playing Legend of Zelda pretty short demo but was still fun :D

[rossmum]

I don't have a 360 and I haven't played one, but by all accounts they own. And they have GoW and H3... that's good enough for me. Wii was awesome fun and despite being a great idea but rather poorly executed, I still had some fun with Red Steel when my friend brought his Wii over. Killed my arm for about a week, though.

[4RT1LL3RY]

Wii is awesome, I play it at my friend's house sometimes, very fun. Be sure to keep the wrist strap on though or you might break something, *accidentally hit friend in back of the head with the remote*
It is a good system though, very small plus there are some easy ways to make it even more wireless and add on some cool features, like using LED lights/candles too have a wireless control sensor.
Try the first person shooters for it, Call of Duty 3 for it is very fun

[ThatCrazyFox]

I'm loving my Wii and 360. I was surprised when I was 1st in line at my local Gamestop to get a Wii. Guess there isnt a big Ninty fanbase where I live.
Currently my favorite games for the Wii and 360 are:
Wii-
-Zelda
-CoD:3
-Excite Truck

360-
-GoW
-Oblivion
-PD0

I cannot wait for the Half-Life 2 collection to hit the 360 also!

And the PS3 well...gimme $600 and we'll see...Though I must say Resistance looks pretty tasty.

[Chief117]

360:Gears of War totally pwnz, and Halo 3 will win the console war and put the 360 in first place no questions asked.

[Mr Buckshot]

I have a 360 and Gears of War + GRAW. Gears of War totally pwns, although it could've used bullet time (a la Max Payne) as a third person game but then again the health recharges so it'd be unfair.

My neighbor next door has a PS3 and I like Resistance too. I prefer Resistance's multiplayer, but maybe that's because it's free to play on the Playstation network.

And for one week I have his PS3 because he's on vacation and allowed me to take control of his system mwahaha.

Some of my school pals already have the wii, which I tried out. However, Red Steel is complete trash. CoD3 is good but lacks multiplayer. Those exclusive titles like Mario and Zelda aren't my thing either, so for the moment I'm not interested in the Wii (until metroid is out that is)

[PlasbianX]

Have a 360 and a wii. Both pwn.

[ExAm]

My 360 is teh r0x. The only con is that they're making a new one with monitor support, which pisses me off, because they're obviously not going to replace the old one for free, or at all.

[legionaire45]

My 360 rocks. Backwards compatibility with Halo 2 XBL is (now not) angering me but its the only thing that has had a problem being set up.

The only con is that they're making a new one with monitor support

http://www.ocmodshop.com/images/reviews/games/xbox360/vga_cable/xbox_360_vga_cable_thumb.jpghttp://www.360maniac.com/images/xbox-360-vga-cable.gif

been out since launch mb? and they are making it have HDMI support. I have my 360 hooked up to my monitor right now enjoying 720p (or i, forgot which one) on my 1680 x 1050 widescreen LCD. it rocks btw.

[ExAm]

Hm. The pic won't load, but where can I get it, whatever it is?

[legionaire45]

fixed^^. I got mine off of Newegg but I have seen them at best-buys and Fry's electronics too.

[Pooky]

I stayed up all night playing with my Wii. I kept my Wii turned on for over four hours, and it stopped working.

[Superhalo2fan]

lol gotta love the wii. The 360 I heard got some new GOW Maps how are those?
O and speaking of the new 360 thing I am not a sony fan cause I have both of the them but honestly I really dont like the idea of the new one I had my 360 since launch day and there were no problems with it exept for its extremely hot after playing for a couple of hours and is loud. Plus its sorta stealing the ps3's features cause the first one 1080p support and 2nd the new 360 with HDMI. If the only things their going to change are the cooling and HDMI and is going to be around the $100's then its not going to be really worth it especially if you already had one since launch or before the new one comes out.

[Big Birdie]

I got the wii and 360 and I won't even bother get the PS3.

I bought the wii for the reason because its revolutionary and something actually original. It's not the same boring stuff like you would do with a classic controller. It's actually fun but only problem I've is the kind of games there are. Nintendo should get more a variety of games than the kind of games they usually get since they started in the gaming business, more rpgs, more first person shooters (I wonder how halo would do <_<), and etc.

360, well I love its graphics and games. I luv to use it for "media" purposes. I just hate that it overheats fast.

PS3, I won't bother, to me its worthless piece of crap, not much changed from the last model, the PS2. I would have bought it at the time 360 came out but I heard Sony delayed the PS3 because of 360's features and its good graphics. From what I heard, they delayed it so they can make their graphics better than the 360 and maybe more. And what today? 600$ piece of crap that looks like a skinny football and its controller doesn't look that much different than the PS2. Other than that weird boomerang controller that almost resembles the Nintendo 64 controller. It's graphics isn't really that much different from the 360, its just sharper and a little better but its lighting isn't that good as the 360. Also my uncle told me that it doesn't have "backward compatiblity" with PS2 and PS1 games but then again I can't say anything about this.

A full essay and for what? My hate on the PS3.

[Pooky]

I got the wii and 360 and I won't even bother get the PS3.

I bought the wii for the reason because its revolutionary and something actually original. It's not the same boring stuff like you would do with a classic controller. It's actually fun but only problem I've is the kind of games there are. Nintendo should get more a variety of games than the kind of games they usually get since they started in the gaming business, more rpgs, more first person shooters (I wonder how halo would do <_<), and etc.

360, well I love its graphics and games. I luv to use it for "media" purposes. I just hate that it overheats fast.

PS3, I won't bother, to me its worthless piece of crap, not much changed from the last model, the PS2. I would have bought it at the time 360 came out but I heard Sony delayed the PS3 because of 360's features and its good graphics. From what I heard, they delayed it so they can make their graphics better than the 360 and maybe more. And what today? 600$ piece of crap that looks like a skinny football and its controller doesn't look that much different than the PS2. Other than that weird boomerang controller that almost resembles the Nintendo 64 controller. It's graphics isn't really that much different from the 360, its just sharper and a little better but its lighting isn't that good as the 360. Also my uncle told me that it doesn't have "backward compatiblity" with PS2 and PS1 games but then again I can't say anything about this.

A full essay and for what? My hate on the PS3.

It's not an essay until it's a bit more coherent and level headed...

[Big Birdie]

That's true. It's just, I had high expectations for the PS3 since the PS2, well when it came out, it truely disappointed me.

After being disappointed, you can say in a way it turned into hate. =\ In a way, it blinded me for what I should say rather than just get pissed and flame at it.

[Mr Buckshot]

I got the wii and 360 and I won't even bother get the PS3.

I bought the wii for the reason because its revolutionary and something actually original. It's not the same boring stuff like you would do with a classic controller. It's actually fun but only problem I've is the kind of games there are. Nintendo should get more a variety of games than the kind of games they usually get since they started in the gaming business, more rpgs, more first person shooters (I wonder how halo would do <_<), and etc.

360, well I love its graphics and games. I luv to use it for "media" purposes. I just hate that it overheats fast.

PS3, I won't bother, to me its worthless piece of crap, not much changed from the last model, the PS2. I would have bought it at the time 360 came out but I heard Sony delayed the PS3 because of 360's features and its good graphics. From what I heard, they delayed it so they can make their graphics better than the 360 and maybe more. And what today? 600$ piece of crap that looks like a skinny football and its controller doesn't look that much different than the PS2. Other than that weird boomerang controller that almost resembles the Nintendo 64 controller. It's graphics isn't really that much different from the 360, its just sharper and a little better but its lighting isn't that good as the 360. Also my uncle told me that it doesn't have "backward compatiblity" with PS2 and PS1 games but then again I can't say anything about this.

A full essay and for what? My hate on the PS3.

my neighbor has a PS3, and Sony delayed it because of a shortage of Blu-ray lasers. the PS3 is the cheapest Blu-ray player available now (however the best bang for buck is LG's $1199 HD-DVD and Blu-ray hybrid player). The PS3 does have these MAJOR advantages over the X360:

1. free online MP unless the developer of the game charges, which is rare

2. backwards compatible with PS1/PS2 memory cards. X360 cannot read old xbox memory cards.

3. Can save data to USB keys, SD cards, memory sticks, and external HDDs. You don't have to use the PS3 hard drive or the PS mem cards if you want to share data with your friends. On X360, there's no way (w/o hacking that is) around that $20 mem card or $100 HDD. with the 360 you can READ data from USB storage but you can't save games to it.

4. Blu-ray discs hold a hell of a lot more space than dual layer DVDs or even HD DVDs. That means bigger games and/or more textures/bitmaps/etc.

[Emmzee]

The Wii fucking kicks ass. Excite Truck is awesome, Raving Rabbids is awesome, and Madden 07 is actually the first time I've had fun playing a football game.

[Emmzee]

I got the wii and 360 and I won't even bother get the PS3.

I bought the wii for the reason because its revolutionary and something actually original. It's not the same boring stuff like you would do with a classic controller. It's actually fun but only problem I've is the kind of games there are. Nintendo should get more a variety of games than the kind of games they usually get since they started in the gaming business, more rpgs, more first person shooters (I wonder how halo would do <_<), and etc.

360, well I love its graphics and games. I luv to use it for "media" purposes. I just hate that it overheats fast.

PS3, I won't bother, to me its worthless piece of crap, not much changed from the last model, the PS2. I would have bought it at the time 360 came out but I heard Sony delayed the PS3 because of 360's features and its good graphics. From what I heard, they delayed it so they can make their graphics better than the 360 and maybe more. And what today? 600$ piece of crap that looks like a skinny football and its controller doesn't look that much different than the PS2. Other than that weird boomerang controller that almost resembles the Nintendo 64 controller. It's graphics isn't really that much different from the 360, its just sharper and a little better but its lighting isn't that good as the 360. Also my uncle told me that it doesn't have "backward compatiblity" with PS2 and PS1 games but then again I can't say anything about this.

A full essay and for what? My hate on the PS3.
#1. The PS3 controller is a PS2 controller (DualShock 2), except no Shock (no rumble feature).
#2. Your uncle lied to you. It's 100% backwards compatible with both PSX and PS2.

[rossmum]

PS3 isn't worth it by any reasoning.

[ExAm]

^What he said.

[Pooky]

2. backwards compatible with PS1/PS2 memory cards. X360 cannot read old xbox memory cards.


Strange that it would be compatible with PS1 cards when the PS2 wasn't...

[JDMFSeanP]

PS3 is total and utter failure.

Xbox 360 is total win, never had any problems, love the system and controllers.

Wii, never played, looks fun

[An Emu]

xbox 360 owns. ps3 fails. wii is for 5 year old japanese kids.

[Pooky]

I still want a Wii. And a 360.

[Mr Buckshot]

Strange that it would be compatible with PS1 cards when the PS2 wasn't...

The PS2 was backwards compatible with everything for the PS1, even gamepads and joysticks and DDRs and light guns. The PS2 mem cards are exactly the same shape and make as the PS1 cards, only that they carry a different logo now.

The PS3 doesn't support PS1/2 peripherals that use the old Playstation controller port, but the presence of USB ports means that it might be possible to use a USB adapter to connect those old peripherals to the PS3.

[Pooky]

My PS2 didn't work with any of my PS1 memory cards.

[ExAm]

I think the PS3 is going to end up exactly like the Dreamcast did.

[rossmum]

...And when it does, I shall LAUGH.

[Pooky]

At least the Dreamcast didn't actually suck... it was just bad marketing

[Superhalo2fan]

Ok I really feel like locking this topic cause I know that their are alot of people that hate ps3 but I didnt intend on starting a fanboy topic the one guy that posted the ADVANTAGES of the ps3 are all true. Xbox 360 is still a great deal but its just getting more and more overused when it comes to "MAN PS3 SUCKS AND 360 IS WAY BETTER". If your going to say it sucks say atleast why it sucks cause since I have one the only problem is is the price but it still is kinda of a good deal because of blu ray and how it is the cheapest blu ray player on the market and is able to do more then movies,and how you have to buy a seperate HDMI or if you dont have HDMI a Component HD Cable

[rossmum]

PS3, and why it sucks:


Overpriced.
Harder to obtain.
We're told it has loads of power, but I've seen nothing to suggest anyone's using that. Every PS3 game I've seen looks identical to the 360's games in terms of graphics, physics, scale, everything.
Controllers are made of fail, as are all PS controllers.
Playstation online play always has sucked, and will likely continue to do so for a long time into the future.
Nothing new. It's just like an amped-up PS2.
It's a ripoff, as well as being overpriced.

[Pooky]

PS3, and why it sucks:

Overpriced.
Harder to obtain.
We're told it has loads of power, but I've seen nothing to suggest anyone's using that. Every PS3 game I've seen looks identical to the 360's games in terms of graphics, physics, scale, everything.
Controllers are made of fail, as are all PS controllers.
Playstation online play always has sucked, and will likely continue to do so for a long time into the future.
Nothing new. It's just like an amped-up PS2.
It's a ripoff, as well as being overpriced.

That's a valid point but is the Xbox 360 not also an amped up Xbox?

[ExAm]

WRONG. It's a completely different machine. Take note of Marketplace, Media Center functionality, HD compatibility, included DVD playback, etc. The only real improvement in the PS3 is power and graphics.

[Pooky]

So basically, the PS3 is an actual game console, and the 360 is the very embodiment of everything I hate about the PSP

[ExAm]

Reverse that.

[Pooky]

I don't see any point in nor do I WANT the ability to play movies, music, or ANYTHING else on my console AT ALL, because that just drives the price up. I already HAVE a DVD player and a TV and an MP3 player, when I pay for a game console I WANT TO PAY FOR A GAME CONSOLE AND ONLY A GAME CONSOLE, not a bunch of pointless crap I don't want or need.

[JDMFSeanP]

Then dont get a ps3, they give you tons of crap to pay for.

[ExAm]

no, they just give you nothing to pay for. they give you shit. High priced shit. That's it. That makes the 360 well worth the money by comparison.

[cls]

Theres only four reasons to buy an Xbox 360 "Halo" "Looks like Halo"(Dead Rising, Gear of War) "homo-erotic sports that aren't Halo" and porn (DOA).(you can get porn for free off the Internet if you want to look at the DOA girls anyways) The SNES style pads for the Playstation systems are preferred by old school gamers that have played video games before the Xbox came out.(yes believe it or not video games have existed before the Xbox kids) Which is why the SNES control pad attachment for the WIImote is a good idea. Not to mention both Xbox systems have failed in Japan (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Xbox+360+failure+in+japan&btnG=Google+Search).(which means a lesser verity of games) While Ipods. mp3 players and all that other imported crap from over here in America sells well over there.

So for real gamers that play much more then first or third person shooters a WII or PS3 is a better choice. HD-Dvd and High Def capability is also an attachment that you have to buy separately for the 360 which is more money out of your pocket. If I buy a console it better do everything it says it can do right out of the box or I'm selling it to some sucker on Ebay. If you want to play more then just shooters all the time, save up your cash for Wii or Playstation 3. Complaints that a PS3 is too expensive is an arbitrary excuse if you have a job that makes more then ten bucks an hour. I don't have the new consoles yet either because there are no games that I care to play yet on any. But there are games coming out on the Wii and PS3 that I would like to play, instead of buying the 360 for just one game series.

[Mr Buckshot]

to friedmetroid:

the playstation and xbox series had multimedia capability because their games used universal disc formats (CD for the PS1, DVD for the PS2/Xbox, dual-layer DVD and HD DVD for the 360, Blu-ray for the PS3). When your system reads games off the same discs used to hold movies, then there's no extra cost involved in supporting the movies too, since it's the same laser. It's just programming inside the hard drive and/or mobo that prevents other DVD drives from reading console game discs.

The Gamecube used its own discs, so it didn't have multimedia capabilities. The Wii follows suit.

It all depends on what kind of medium the game is stored on.

[X3RO SHIF7]

Dear god how old are you guys - more then half of your guys post's are complete and udder bullshit for all the consoles..wow

for pro xbox and pro 360 alike, just plain childish

[rossmum]

Theres only four reasons to buy an Xbox 360 "Halo" "Looks like Halo"(Dead Rising, Gear of War) "homo-erotic sports that aren't Halo" and porn (DOA).(you can get porn for free off the Internet if you want to look at the DOA girls anyways)
...And "avoiding bankruptcy", "avoiding hand cramps", "good online console play" and "getting what you paid for". Better make that 8.


The SNES style pads for the Playstation systems are preferred by old school gamers that have played video games before the Xbox came out.(yes believe it or not video games have existed before the Xbox kids)
No shit? Where did anyone say video games didn't exist before the Xbox? Void point, tbh.


Which is why the SNES control pad attachment for the WIImote is a good idea. Not to mention both Xbox systems have failed in Japan (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Xbox+360+failure+in+japan&btnG=Google+Search).(which means a lesser verity of games) While Ipods. mp3 players and all that other imported crap from over here in America sells well over there.
Because - surprise surprise - the systems that did well were not only made in Japan but also more compact and therefore suited to the average Japanese home. Another void point.


So for real gamers that play much more then first or third person shooters a WII or PS3 is a better choice. HD-Dvd and High Def capability is also an attachment that you have to buy separately for the 360 which is more money out of your pocket.
...Yet still less for both than the less-than-impressive PS3.


If I buy a console it better do everything it says it can do right out of the box or I'm selling it to some sucker on Ebay. If you want to play more then just shooters all the time, save up your cash for Wii or Playstation 3. Complaints that a PS3 is too expensive is an arbitrary excuse if you have a job that makes more then ten bucks an hour.
No, it's a sensible observation. Who's going to pay upwards of $600 US (more like $1,200 here) for something when there's a cheaper alternative that's just as good?


I don't have the new consoles yet either because there are no games that I care to play yet on any. But there are games coming out on the Wii and PS3 that I would like to play, instead of buying the 360 for just one game series.
Nice work assuming we all plan to rush out and buy "the 360 for just one game series".

...In conclusion, your long tirade about how much better the PS3 is than the 360 can be shot down by a simple mixture of common sense and plain facts. For all the numbers Sony tried to hypnotise us with (inlcuding the fucking price), I haven't yet seen one thing I like about the PS3 (and I'm no Xbox fanboy... played my friend's Wii and absolutely loved it, though I'm mainly a PC gamer).

If you want to go spend $600+ on a fancy box full of parts with big numbers that don't actually make shit all difference, go for your life. I intend to wait until the prices drop on 360s (Halo 3, GoW, BiA:HH at the very least) and the Wii, and buy one of each. No PS3 for me, no matter what. It's just not fucking worth it.

[Reaper Man]

I'd qft, but it's such a damn long post, so without further ado: ^

[cls]

...And "avoiding bankruptcy", "avoiding hand cramps", "good online console play" and "getting what you paid for". Better make that 8.

With rampant player cheating and standby-ing for fifty bucks plus an ISP charge. Not to mention snobs that call people noobs for not playing the game same way as said elite snobs do. It's differently not worth it. I've never gotten hand cramps while playing an Playstation and I know no one that has ever had cramps either.(unless their some kinda giant Hulk like person) Shelling out over six hundreds bucks for a computer or a car never made anybody bankrupt, so thats another exaggeration. If they put Burger Kings ads in 360 video games then Xbox live should be free. A free online playing service is a much better choice for the average gamer.




Because - surprise surprise - the systems that did well were not only made in Japan but also more compact and therefore suited to the average Japanese home. Another void point.

You seemed to have ignored the point completely, foreign product thats not made by Microsoft does well over there just as it does in the rest of the world. Japan was a target market that they tried to reach out to sell their product. Failing in one market is a bad thing for any company, even Microsoft. Not only did they fail once but twice. Doing so twice in the worlds second largest gaming market is pretty bad.





...Yet still less for both than the less-than-impressive PS3.

No, it's a sensible observation. Who's going to pay upwards of $600 US (more like $1,200 here) for something when there's a cheaper alternative that's just as good?

This is the same excuse I hear all the time. Cost a lot of money, I'd like to hear a different excuse for once. Seems the 360's only true advantage over the PS3 is a lower price.




Nice work assuming we all plan to rush out and buy "the 360 for just one game series".

...In I intend to wait until the prices drop on 360s (Halo 3, GoW, BiA:HH at the very least) and the Wii, and buy one of each. No PS3 for me, no matter what. It's just not fucking worth it.

What does the 360 have other then shooting , button masher fighting games and some sports games for players that don't play them? The titles for it that aren't in those category's seem lacking or non existent. And if it is, it's just one of only two or three exclusive games in that category on the system.



If you want to go spend $600+ on a fancy box full of parts with big numbers that don't actually make shit all difference, go for your life

The games I want to play that are exclusive to the PS3 (Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy 14, the next Ratchet and Clank.) are about a year away maybe longer. So when it has a game I want I'll be sure to get them. I prefer to not be restricted to one genre of game because of the console I bought.


Dear god how old are you guys - more then half of your guys post's are complete and udder bullshit for all the consoles..wow

for pro xbox and pro 360 alike, just plain childish

Sadly I agree with that X3Ro ShIF7. Somebody people just jump on the bandwagon just because others do

[rossmum]

With rampant player cheating and standby-ing for fifty bucks plus an ISP charge. Not to mention snobs that call people noobs for not playing the game same way as said elite snobs do. It's differently not worth it.
No worse than PC online, and in any case I've played H2 on Live and 9/10 times, everyone was fine. You're blowing it out of proportion. Void point due to assumption.


I've never gotten hand cramps while playing an Playstation and I know no one that has ever had cramps either.(unless their some kinda giant Hulk like person)
You and everyone you know must have tiny hands, because I find it awkward even holding a PS-type controller. And calling me a hulk is like calling a fucking ant King Kong.


Shelling out over six hundreds bucks for a computer or a car never made anybody bankrupt, so thats another exaggeration.
But they're actually worth it, unlike the PS3. Can the PS3 drive you around? No. Does the PS3 even come close to a PC in its abilities? No. Nice comparison. :rolleyes: Void point due to awful 'logic'.


If they put Burger Kings ads in 360 video games then Xbox live should be free. A free online playing service is a much better choice for the average gamer.
Unless it's so bad that it's not even worth playing from all accounts (even PS fanboys admit it's not worth it).


You seemed to have ignored the point completely, foreign product thats not made by Microsoft does well over there just as it does in the rest of the world. Japan was a target market that they tried to reach out to sell their product. Failing in one market is a bad thing for any company, even Microsoft. Not only did they fail once but twice. Doing so twice in the worlds second largest gaming market is pretty bad.
You seem to have ignored the point completely, as none of said countries had two major console names of their own to support. Void point, overlooked major factor.


This is the same excuse I hear all the time. Cost a lot of money, I'd like to hear a different excuse for once. Seems the 360's only true advantage over the PS3 is a lower price.
And the better online. And the fact it's more readily available. And the way it provides overall a better quality experience for half the price.

Looks like you're the one overlooking facts and fanboying a console here. Void.


What does the 360 have other then shooting , button masher fighting games and some sports games for players that don't play them? The titles for it that aren't in those category's seem lacking or non existent. And if it is, it's just one of only two or three exclusive games in that category on the system.
One look down at my local EB sufficiently disproves that fact, thanks. Void.


The games I want to play that are exclusive to the PS3 (Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy 14, the next Ratchet and Clank.) are about a year away maybe longer. So when it has a game I want I'll be sure to get them. I prefer to not be restricted to one genre of game because of the console I bought.
False assumption as demonstrated above, void.


Sadly I agree with that X3Ro ShIF7. Somebody people just jump on the bandwagon just because others do
Looks like you're the one blinded by your love for Playstation, actually. So by agreeing with him, you're basically being a hypocrite by criticising others. Make sense please.

And out of that whole sorry mess, how many valid points did you make? One, at best. Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about and it wouldn't surprise me if you haven't even looked into the matter but instead are simply making wild assumptions.

[Reaper Man]

Logic helps. Ross wins this thread tbh. Several times too.

[rossmum]

:)

[cls]

Logic helps. Ross wins this thread tbh. Several times too.

Do you have anything to contribute to this topic but pointless cheer leading and spam?



You and everyone you know must have tiny hands, because I find it awkward even holding a PS-type controller. And calling me a hulk is like calling a fucking ant King Kong.

The Hulk comment is a result of you complaining about of a little thing like hand cramps. A compliant that is pointless, when you failed to consider the views of somebody who doesn't play video games daily or even on a weekly basis. Can you proved proof of these hand cramps and why the 360 control pad doesn't do the same to a completely different person?
Maybe if you said you had carpal tunnel from using a Playstation controller then it wouldn't have seemed like a random gripe. Like a sucker you fell for the bait though.

I wasn't the one childish enough to throw personal insults in a debate but you took it as such. Of course it took no effort from myself other then making myself sound condescending like I do to everyone else. Then again its expected when you play devils advocate with somebody who isn't even collage age yet.


. But they're actually worth it, unlike the PS3. Can the PS3 drive you around? No. Does the PS3 even come close to a PC in its abilities?

A car is pretty much a throw away object that you can sell, despite it's uses. Even if it is for entertainment like a TV or, video game console, a dvd player or anything else that serves a purpose. Everything in a persons house except food, water and the home itself is non essential. Everything thing else is a luxury. But that's a rant for another topic.

It surpasses the capabilities of a non gamers PC, which should be enough. There are a lot of 2.8 and 3.2 gigahertz around used by the average person that don't even bother with gaming. Sense that's all the stores care to sell at least in America.



Unless it's so bad that it's not even worth playing from all accounts (even PS fanboys admit it's not worth it).

I don't even have the proper stuff to go online with a PS2. So thats the only point I will even give you.



You seem to have ignored the point completely, as none of said countries had two major console names of their own to support. Void point, overlooked major factor.

You've basically overlooked everything I said without even bothering to click the link I posted. So your also void. It seems to me you haven't even bothered to read any of the pages in the Google link provided.

You failed to even consider a non white bred countries view that have access to these consoles and the internet.



And the better online. And the fact it's more readily available. And the way it provides overall a better quality experience for half the price.

Looks like you're the one overlooking facts and fanboying a console here. Void.

Online play doesn't even consider people that don't bother with it. Does the online disc even come with the 360 or do you have to buy that too?


Calling somebody else a fanboy usually means their trying to cover up the fact that they are too.


One look down at my local EB sufficiently disproves that fact, thanks.

Can you tell people that don't own either console which games are actually worth their time excluding the most popular games for the console?

You failed to tell me about anything about what's so good about the 360 besides online and a few games, so I thought not.

Of course everything about any of the three new consoles should be general knowledge to a even a casual gamer. Unless I'm mistaken. Which again you failed to prove as well.




Looks like you're the one blinded by your love for Playstation, actually. So by agreeing with him, you're basically being a hypocrite by criticising others. Make sense please.


And out of that whole sorry mess, how many valid points did you make? One, at best. Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about and it wouldn't surprise me if you haven't even looked into the matter but instead are simply making wild assumptions.

You seemed to have ignored just about any point I made and failed to straightly point out why the 360 is a better choice then a PS3. Mostly its the 360 owners that say their console is superior is better in all aspects then the PS3 or WII without even considering the other sides augment. I stepped in when I saw nothing but obvious bias towards one side.

By your own logic your an Xbox fan boy and a hypocrite too. Randomly cursing like a child destroys any credibility your points may have, if any in my eyes. So either one of us is right or we're both wrong.(feel free to try and twist that anyway you like.)

As I said before playing devil's advocate is pointless when somebody ignores everything but they want to hear but I guess you wouldn't understand the term sense your still a teenager.
But then again if you didn't realize that from the first post I made in this topic then continuing this line of conversation is pointless. You should have been able too without me telling you, but I guess not.

[rossmum]

Do you have anything to contribute to this topic but pointless cheer leading and spam?
Agreeing with an opinion is spam? Sounds like someone's getting a little hot under the collar...


The Hulk comment is a result of you complaining about of a little thing like hand cramps. A compliant that is pointless, when you failed to consider the views of somebody who doesn't play video games daily or even on a weekly basis. Can you proved proof of these hand cramps and why the 360 control pad doesn't do the same to a completely different person?
The Xbox controllers fit my hands comfortably. PS controllers feel much the same as if I were to try ride a kid's bike - awkward, too small, and eventually painful.


Maybe if you said you had carpal tunnel from using a Playstation controller then it wouldn't have seemed like a random gripe. Like a sucker you fell for the bait though.
Bait? What?


I wasn't the one childish enough to throw personal insults in a debate but you took it as such. Of course it took no effort from myself other then making myself sound condescending like I do to everyone else. Then again its expected when you play devils advocate with somebody who isn't even collage age yet.
Unfortunately for you, you have no idea what I think, and again unfortunately for you, you happen to be wrong. I didn't consider any of that to be a personal insult, more flawed logic.


A car is pretty much a throw away object that you can sell, despite it's uses. Even if it is for entertainment like a TV or, video game console, a dvd player or anything else that serves a purpose. Everything in a persons house except food, water and the home itself is non essential. Everything thing else is a luxury. But that's a rant for another topic.
I'd consider a car to be of higher importance than a $600+ US console, especially when the only real edge it has over its competitors is graphical prowess.


It surpasses the capabilities of a non gamers PC, which should be enough. There are a lot of 2.8 and 3.2 gigahertz around used by the average person that don't even bother with gaming. Sense that's all the stores care to sell at least in America.
But can a PS3 do half the stuff a PC can? You missed the point entirely.


I don't even have the proper stuff to go online with a PS2. So thats the only point I will even give you.
So technically you had even less of an idea of what you were talking about than I did.


You've basically overlooked everything I said without even bothering to click the link I posted. So your also void. It seems to me you haven't even bothered to read any of the pages in the Google link provided.
Actually, it seems to me that you're the one doing the overlooking. Every time I point out an obvious flaw, you either try and counter it with fanboy drivel or simply change the subject. Nice try buddy, but I've never lost an argument over the net yet and I'm not about to. It's pretty obvious that you're the one using void arguments.


You failed to even consider a non white bred countries view that have access to these consoles and the internet.
What in the fuck does that have to do with anything? Stop trying to win using what you consider to be intelligent-sounding retorts... retorts don't work unless they're actually related to what you're arguing.


Online play doesn't even consider people that don't bother with it. Does the online disc even come with the 360 or do you have to buy that too?
I could buy a pair of 360s and it'd be cheaper than a PS3 here, so congrats on another self-defeating point.


Calling somebody else a fanboy usually means their trying to cover up the fact that they are too.
Nope, it usually means that the accused 'fanboy' refuses to acknowledge a single bad thing about their favourite console. Like what you've done over and over.


Can you tell people that don't own either console which games are actually worth their time excluding the most popular games for the console?

You failed to tell me about anything about what's so good about the 360 besides online and a few games, so I thought not.
That doesn't even make sense. In any case, have its merits not already been pointed out by others? Thought as much. Read the thread.


Of course everything about any of the three new consoles should be general knowledge to a even a casual gamer. Unless I'm mistaken. Which again you failed to prove as well.
Again, what the fuck does that have to do with anything.


You seemed to have ignored just about any point I made and failed to straightly point out why the 360 is a better choice then a PS3. Mostly its the 360 owners that say their console is superior is better in all aspects then the PS3 or WII without even considering the other sides augment. I stepped in when I saw nothing but obvious bias towards one side.
Yeah, and you stepped in with total, utter, bigoted bias towards the other (look it up if you're not sure). Congrats.


By your own logic your an Xbox fan boy and a hypocrite too. Randomly cursing like a child destroys any credibility your points may have, if any in my eyes. So either one of us is right or we're both wrong.(feel free to try and twist that anyway you like.)
Ok, tell me how I described myself as an Xbox fanboy. Go on, Mr. Supreme Source of Knowledge, tell me how that works. Am I unaccepting to its flaws? No, I'm unaccepting to warped assumptions made by PS fanboys. Do I play my Xbox often? Nope, hardly at all. How many games do I own for it? About 6. What do I game on most and prefer above all else? PC.
Damn, looks like you lose.


As I said before playing devil's advocate is pointless when somebody ignores everything but they want to hear but I guess you wouldn't understand the term sense your still a teenager.
Hahahaha, that's funny. I've known the meaning of that term since I was 10, thanks, and since you made a point of bringing up my age, I may as well make a point of how terrible you are at arguing. All you've done is bring up non sequiturs or try and turn my own words on me (rather fruitlessly). I would suggest you give up now, before you get left too far behind.


But then again if you didn't realize that from the first post I made in this topic then continuing this line of conversation is pointless. You should have been able too without me telling you, but I guess not.
Yes, I agree, it is pointless - because you'll get nowhere. Your logic is flawed and downright nonexistent in places. You bring age and physical build into an argument over consoles as though it automatically makes me wrong and immature - which is rather ironic, as bringing age into it makes you appear to be the immature party. Your pride is getting the better of you and making you post absolute junk, I'm afraid, and then telling you that it's a good argument. Open your eyes, sunshine. Strider Vega Core argues in exactly the same way, as do all people with some sort of intolerance to negative truths. Stop ignoring that which opposes your ideas of what should and shouldn't be, and realise you're not getting anywhere.

Should you choose to continue your futile arguments, be warned that I can keep going just as long as you can and I've got too much experience for someone of your argumentative ability to handle. :)

Your choice.

[Emmzee]

Owned tbh.

[rossmum]

Pssst, I don't think he can hear you. Maybe you should try agreeing with him instead, maybe then he'll pay attention, use your post as some sort of weapon against me, and think he's won :rolleyes:

[cls]

Agreeing with an opinion is spam? Sounds like someone's getting a little hot under the collar...

I don't need a cheerleader.



The Xbox controllers fit my hands comfortably. PS controllers feel much the same as if I were to try ride a kid's bike - awkward, too small, and eventually painful.

But other people that uses either console is not like you.



Bait? What?



Unfortunately for you, you have no idea what I think, and again unfortunately for you, you happen to be wrong. I didn't consider any of that to be a personal insult, more flawed logic.

You can state that somebody is wrong but that doesn't make it fact.But that subjective reasoning I could clam your logic is flawed as well.



I'd consider a car to be of higher importance than a $600+ US console, especially when the only real edge it has over its competitors is graphical prowess.

Everybody just thinks they need a car, but most of the westrain world still grasps onto an outdated sense of ownership.

You like many others ignore the PS3's wireless compatibly with the PSP, but I shouldn't have to even mention that.
The Six axes controller is another advantage over the 360, even if it does look like a rip off the WIImote. Which my or may not be true.



But can a PS3 do half the stuff a PC can? You missed the point entirely.

Much more then what is on sell at the local computer store, not everybody can get thier hands on a rig with Duel Core 3.6 Gigahertz and duel end ATI cards right on the motherboard.






Actually, it seems to me that you're the one doing the overlooking. Every time I point out an obvious flaw, you either try and counter it with fanboy drivel or simply change the subject. Nice try buddy, but I've never lost an argument over the net yet and I'm not about to. It's pretty obvious that you're the one using void arguments.

You still have yet to show me anything that shows what the 360 has over the PS3 besides the price.



What in the fuck does that have to do with anything? Stop trying to win using what you consider to be intelligent-sounding retorts... retorts don't work unless they're actually related to what you're arguing.

Because the West hemisphere doesn't speak for the rest of the world on the sales of a console



I could buy a pair of 360s and it'd be cheaper than a PS3 here, so congrats on another self-defeating point.

Being cheaper seems to be the only argument you have. By that logic I could purchase two sixteenth pound burgers and still get just as filled with a quarter pounder burgers.



Nope, it usually means that the accused 'fanboy' refuses to acknowledge a single bad thing about their favourite console. Like what you've done over and over.

I could go on and on about how making a console that does more then it should like playing games without those features that are on the PS3, PSP and 360. Or say that using your fingers is a better choice then using the styles on the Nintendo DS. But sense they come with these features anyways, its useless complaining about them.

I think a rumble feature and motion sensors are still the most useless thing in the world, but in most games they can be turned off. So that gripe is not worth noting either a minor annoyance anyways.

You still haven't given me any flaws you see with the 360



That doesn't even make sense. In any case, have its merits not already been pointed out by others? Thought as much. Read the thread.

All they have been doing is giving the name and say "Lol, Xbox 360 is best, all other consoles suck"






Yeah, and you stepped in with total, utter, bigoted bias towards the other (look it up if you're not sure). Congrats.

I know what bias is. It seems lop sided towards one console. Nobody seem to care to give positive suggestions or comments about the other two.



Ok, tell me how I described myself as an Xbox fanboy. Go on, Mr. Supreme Source of Knowledge, tell me how that works. Am I unaccepting to its flaws? No, I'm unaccepting to warped assumptions made by PS fanboys. Do I play my Xbox often? Nope, hardly at all. How many games do I own for it? About 6. What do I game on most and prefer above all else? PC.
Damn, looks like you lose.

I could clam that you lost with no proof as well. You have yet to tell me or anyone else about the flaws of the Microsoft Console.

Not everyone has a powerful enough PC to play high end games, but you never acknowledged that either.



Hahahaha, that's funny. I've known the meaning of that term since I was 10, thanks, and since you made a point of bringing up my age, I may as well make a point of how terrible you are at arguing. All you've done is bring up non sequiturs or try and turn my own words on me (rather fruitlessly). I would suggest you give up now, before you get left too far behind.

And you accuse me of using false logic. Because you have to throw that out to make yourself feel "smart".



Yes, I agree, it is pointless - because you'll get nowhere. Your logic is flawed and downright nonexistent in places. You bring age and physical build into an argument over consoles as though it automatically makes me wrong and immature - which is rather ironic, as bringing age into it makes you appear to be the immature party. Your pride is getting the better of you and making you post absolute junk, I'm afraid, and then telling you that it's a good argument. Open your eyes, sunshine. Strider Vega Core argues in exactly the same way, as do all people with some sort of intolerance to negative truths. Stop ignoring that which opposes your ideas of what should and shouldn't be, and realise you're not getting anywhere.

Should you choose to continue your futile arguments, be warned that I can keep going just as long as you can and I've got too much experience for someone of your argumentative ability to handle.


Westerners (mostly white people) all ways say they have the higher ground despite theres proof otherwise.(sounds like a certain US president we all hate) Have you even provide outside proof instead of showing your blatant and obvious bias for one thing over another? I asked you time and again but you have failed to comply. I'm not the one showing any pride, you seem to be patting your own back and giving yourself a manufactured victory. Just because the majority says their right doesn't make it true I don't need worthless assistance from others to prove a point.

[rossmum]

I don't need a cheerleader.
I don't see one.


But other people that uses either console is not like you.
I'm aware of that. It was, however, a personal grievance, not a mass statement. I will state though, that the Xbox controllers are better thought out in general.


You can state that somebody is wrong but that doesn't make it fact.But that subjective reasoning I could clam your logic is flawed as well.
And you'd be a massive hypocrite, since half of your points last post weren't even related.


Everybody just thinks they need a car, but most of the westrain world still grasps onto an outdated sense of ownership.
And that magically doesn't apply to the PS3?


You like many others ignore the PS3's wireless compatibly with the PSP, but I shouldn't have to even mention that.
The Six axes controller is another advantage over the 360, even if it does look like a rip off the WIImote. Which my or may not be true.
Oh wow, it wirelessly connects with the PSP (another item I would consider a waste of time and money, much like the PS2 and 3 - Sony lost its edge in consoles price- and in many cases tech-wise as soon as Microsoft set foot into the industry, and that is an honest assessment based on fact before you go pointing fingers)... is wireless connection with another high-priced Sony console (albeit a portable one) really worth the massive price difference? Or something similar to the Wiimote? No. I'd rather buy a 360 and a Wii to get a good, versatile yet fairly priced console and an innovative, fun one instead of blowing the combined price on a single lacklustre product.


Much more then what is on sell at the local computer store, not everybody can get thier hands on a rig with Duel Core 3.6 Gigahertz and duel end ATI cards right on the motherboard.
Neither can I. You can see my specs; yet I'd still buy a PC like my current over a PS3 without a second thought.


You still have yet to show me anything that shows what the 360 has over the PS3 besides the price.
Uh, no. I don't. You still have yet to stop ignoring what I do show, thanks.


Because the West hemisphere doesn't speak for the rest of the world on the sales of a console
That's not even vaguely related to the topic. Stop trying to use "oh, 360 failed in Japan and Asia" as an argumentative point... of course it did, with most console companies based in Japan. They have their own companies to support, unlike most of the West, and they also have less space to do it in. Aside from that, the 360 isn't as well known because Sony have been holding the market down much longer.


Being cheaper seems to be the only argument you have. By that logic I could purchase two sixteenth pound burgers and still get just as filled with a quarter pounder burgers.
No, you just ignore the others because they're inconvenient to you.


I could go on and on about how making a console that does more then it should like playing games without those features that are on the PS3, PSP and 360. Or say that using your fingers is a better choice then using the styles on the Nintendo DS. But sense they come with these features anyways, its useless complaining about them.
When did I complain about them? Oh that's right, I didn't.


I think a rumble feature and motion sensors are still the most useless thing in the world, but in most games they can be turned off. So that gripe is not worth noting either a minor annoyance anyways.
I think that's a rather uncommon personal opinion, as evidenced by the fact that the PS3's lack of rumble even garnered a mention. It's considered by many to be part of what makes consoles so good to play with friends - it just seems so much more interactive.


You still haven't given me any flaws you see with the 360
Ok, I'll give some. The release was a godawful mess, and over here they're only just becoming common. The fact you have to buy everything separately is an annoyance, but not due to cost. The launch games were mainly Xbox or PC ports with better graphics and so the launch itself wasn't too huge. Not to mention the early overheating issues (since fixed).


All they have been doing is giving the name and say "Lol, Xbox 360 is best, all other consoles suck"
As opposed to you, who is saying that the 360 sucks and the PS3 kicks the crap out of it.


I know what bias is. It seems lop sided towards one console. Nobody seem to care to give positive suggestions or comments about the other two.
What do you do? Repeatedly try and champion the PS3 over the Xbox. You're biased too, in fact even moreso for continuing this petty debate for so long.


I could clam that you lost with no proof as well. You have yet to tell me or anyone else about the flaws of the Microsoft Console.
You have yet to pull your head out of your ass and stop ignoring anything that shows the PS3 in a bad light.


Not everyone has a powerful enough PC to play high end games, but you never acknowledged that either.
No shit? My PC is 6 years old and can only just handle Source games on medium settings, but does that mean ZOMG RUSH OUT AND SHELL OUT $1,200 FOR A PS3 (assuming I could even find one here)? No, it means I either buy $3-400 worth of upgrades to bring it up to standard, or I buy a 360 for about $450. Why buy a PS3 when the 360 has a controller that actually fits my hands, a better (albeit priced) online service, a lower price, more of my kind of games, less features I'd end up paying for but never using (PSP connect), and games like GoW which, to be frank, don't look far behind current PS3 games and run just as well on less power? For all those numbers Sony threw to the rabid crowds since announcement, the PS3's only real advantage over the 360 is graphical (and even then, not by far).


And you accuse me of using false logic. Because you have to throw that out to make yourself feel "smart".
Oh good work, let's try destroy someone's reputation because we're losing an argument! Totally uncalled for, it's not hard to see you're getting desparate.


Westerners (mostly white people) all ways say they have the higher ground despite theres proof otherwise.(sounds like a certain US president we all hate) Have you even provide outside proof instead of showing your blatant and obvious bias for one thing over another?
Are you accusing me of being racist? Are you? At what fucking point does race tie in with my console preference? How dare you.


I asked you time and again but you have failed to comply. I'm not the one showing any pride, you seem to be patting your own back and giving yourself a manufactured victory. Just because the majority says their right doesn't make it true I don't need worthless assistance from others to prove a point.
You're spouting mindless drivel and you know it. That's why you're resorting to lowly personal attacks to try claw your way back.

As a footnote, I'll be reporting that post. Nice job implying I'm a white supremacist because I don't go rabid at the sight of a PS3, asshole. You really did show your lack of maturity right there.

[Emmzee]

I don't need a cheerleader What the hell are you talking about? Cheerleaders are awesome, especially for a retarded Internet agrument..




But other people that uses either console is not like you Yeah, they're rich..







You can state that somebody is wrong but that doesn't make it fact You state that all the time, and it obviously isn't fact, so the previous statement is true!.But that subjective reasoning I could clam your logic is flawed as well.




Everybody just thinks they need a car, but most of the westrain world still grasps onto an outdated sense of ownership Lol. Tell me exactly what you own. You have that same "outdated" sense of ownership..

You like many others ignore the PS3's wireless compatibly with the PSP, but I shouldn't have to even mention that.
The Six axes controller is another advantage over the 360, even if it does look like a rip off the WIImote. Which my or may not be true It is true. Nintendo has a pending lawsuit against Sony..




Much more then what is on sell at the local computer store, not everybody can get thier hands on a rig with Duel Core 3.6 Gigahertz and duel end ATI cards right on the motherboard I don't know where you're from, but I can walk right into Circuit City and find those exact things..







You still have yet to show me anything that shows what the 360 has over the PS3 besides the price Halo 3, Dead Rising, GoW, more units, plus it's been established for over a year..




Because the West hemisphere doesn't speak for the rest of the world on the sales of a console The PS3 is still losing, anywhere you go.




Being cheaper seems to be the only argument you have. By that logic I could purchase two sixteenth pound burgers and still get just as filled with a quarter pounder burgers As opposed to buying a 6-pound burger filled with rat shit..




I could go on and on about how making a console that does more then it should like playing games without those features that are on the PS3, PSP and 360 Oh, and how you do go on and on!. Or say that using your fingers is a better choice then using the styles stylus* on the Nintendo DS. But sense they come with these features anyways, its useless complaining about them.

I think a rumble feature Well you got that wish with the PS3 controller. and motion sensors are still the most useless thing in the world, but in most games they can be turned off. So that gripe is not worth noting either a minor annoyance anyways.

You still haven't given me any flaws you see with the 360. You have not given me any flaws you see with the PS3.




All they have been doing is giving the name and say "Lol, Xbox 360 is best, all other consoles suck" Which is exactly what you have been doing with the PS3.







I know what bias is. It seems lop sided towards one console And you are living proof of that.. Nobody seem to care to give positive suggestions or comments about the other two.




I could claim that you lost with no proof as well. You have yet to tell me or anyone else about the flaws of the Microsoft Console You have yet to tell anyone the flaws of the Sony console too..

Not everyone has a powerful enough PC to play high end games, but you never acknowledged that either You never acknowledged that the PS3 price tag is too steep for people who don't have a high-end PC..




And you accuse me of using false logic. Because you have to throw that out to make yourself feel "smart" And that's different from you how?.





Westerners (mostly white people) all ways say they have the higher ground despite theres proof otherwise.(sounds like a certain US president we all hate Who?) Have you even provide outside proof instead of showing your blatant and obvious bias for one thing over another? I asked you time and again but you have failed to comply. I'm not the one showing any pride, you seem to be patting your own back and giving yourself a manufactured victory As opposed to you , with your manufactured arguments.. Just because the majority says their right doesn't make it true I don't need worthless assistance from others to prove a point.
[color=red]Wow, arguing on the Internet. You must have a huge penis.
My edits in red.

[rossmum]

My edits in red.
I bet he claims I put you up to it or something. Kinda like when we all used to tell SVC that he needed to accept crit and he 'conveniently' missed our posts and started parading around quoting the filefront fanboys stupid enough to like his work.

O NOES NOT A VALID OPPOSING ARGUMENT!!!11 QUICK, ACCUSE THEM OF THINKING WHITES ARE BETTER!!1

[EDIT] Oh damn, isn't the PS3 great? Being designed to lock up and all? (http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/46197/Sony_Claims_Playstation_3_Designed_to_Freeze_up)

So, cls. What have you got to say to that? Let me guess... "That's a really good idea" or "[insert utterly unrelated personal attack here in attempt to change subject]".

[Morkon]

For being 23 and a PS3 fanboy, his spelling seems to lag a decade or 2.

Six axes? LOL! Its SIXAXIS.

Also, quit with the racism and the stereotyping, No one cares. Its not good to preach PS3 in a Halo 2 Vista website. You do realize most people here happen to like Halo, and will defend it and its console when you pathetically attempt to justify buying a PS3. NO CONSOLE should be $600. Also, Sony completely SHANKED Europe, as if they need that on top of the premium they already pay for consoles. Japan has PS3s sitting in the stores. No one wants a PS3, not even Japan. Developers are moving over to the 360 and the Wii. What happened to Assassins Creed and Metal Gear Solid 4 being PS3 exclusives? Thats right, not even developers have faith on the PS3. What does the PS3 have that makes people want to whip out their wallets, and empty them? Anything? Maybe a shitty Blu-Ray player? Oh yea, why bother when Dual Format players are just around the corner which can do both Blu-Ray AND HD-DVD. Now THAT is future proof.

[Neuro Guro]

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/46197/Sony_Claims_Playstation_3_Designed_to_Freeze_up

End Of Story.

http://reallylose.ytmnd.com/ ----> *to sony

[rossmum]

For being 23 and a PS3 fanboy, his spelling seems to lag a decade or 2.

Six axes? LOL! Its SIXAXIS.

Also, quit with the racism and the stereotyping, No one cares. Its not good to preach PS3 in a Halo 2 Vista website. You do realize most people here happen to like Halo, and will defend it and its console when you pathetically attempt to justify buying a PS3. NO CONSOLE should be $600. Also, Sony completely SHANKED Europe, as if they need that on top of the premium they already pay for consoles. Japan has PS3s sitting in the stores. No one wants a PS3, not even Japan. Developers are moving over to the 360 and the Wii. What happened to Assassins Creed and Metal Gear Solid 4 being PS3 exclusives? Thats right, not even developers have faith on the PS3. What does the PS3 have that makes people want to whip out their wallets, and empty them? Anything? Maybe a shitty Blu-Ray player? Oh yea, why bother when Dual Format players are just around the corner which can do both Blu-Ray AND HD-DVD. Now THAT is future proof.
We have a winner.


http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/46197/Sony_Claims_Playstation_3_Designed_to_Freeze_up

End Of Story.

http://reallylose.ytmnd.com/ ----> *to sony
Neuro http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9297/boomhsfz5.png Thread

[X3RO SHIF7]

Do Moderators not lock threads on this forum? this thread really needs locking - I'd have to agree with the whole sony fails and is nothing but a greedy wanna be moneymaker but its besides the point, doesent take away that this topic is a pointless debate that always ends up in flaming and half the people are being extremely childish

[rossmum]

I could be mistaken but I think they're letting it live for a little while before they do kill it off. They usually don't need to lock stuff, but clearly someone didn't like people saying bad (albeit true) things about the PS3 :rolleyes:

[cls]

I'm aware of that. It was, however, a personal grievance, not a mass statement. I will state though, that the Xbox controllers are better thought out in general.

In who's opinion other then white males 15 to 40 years of age? The Xbox and the 360 only appeals to that particular group. A person that doesn't even fit in with that demographic is well, shit out of luck when it comes to 360.



Oh wow, it wirelessly connects with the PSP (another item I would consider a waste of time and money, much like the PS2 and 3 - Sony lost its edge in consoles price- and in many cases tech-wise as soon as Microsoft set foot into the industry, and that is an honest assessment based on fact before you go pointing fingers)... is wireless connection with another high-priced Sony console (albeit a portable one) really worth the massive price difference? Or something similar to the Wiimote? No. I'd rather buy a 360 and a Wii to get a good, versatile yet fairly priced console and an innovative, fun one instead of blowing the combined price on a single lacklustre product.

How times have you trotted out the "It cost too much money" excuse. That's the only real argument 360 owners have.


Neither can I. You can see my specs; yet I'd still buy a PC like my current over a PS3 without a second thought.



Uh, no. I don't. You still have yet to stop ignoring what I do show, thanks.



That's not even vaguely related to the topic. Stop trying to use "oh, 360 failed in Japan and Asia" as an argumentative point... of course it did, with most console companies based in Japan. They have their own companies to support, unlike most of the West, and they also have less space to do it in. Aside from that, the 360 isn't as well known because Sony have been holding the market down much longer.

You ignored the fact that non Microsoft products from the West do just as well in Japan as other non Japanese products. Again, Ipods are just as popular there as anything else that cames from this side of the world.





I think that's a rather uncommon personal opinion, as evidenced by the fact that the PS3's lack of rumble even garnered a mention. It's considered by many to be part of what makes consoles so good to play with friends - it just seems so much more interactive.

Do games even need rumble features these days. How does rumble even make a game interactive? Rumble capability was useless when it was introduced. It's on A boon too many is a bane of others.



Ok, I'll give some. The release was a godawful mess, and over here they're only just becoming common. The fact you have to buy everything separately is an annoyance, but not due to cost. The launch games were mainly Xbox or PC ports with better graphics and so the launch itself wasn't too huge. Not to mention the early overheating issues (since fixed).



As opposed to you, who is saying that the 360 sucks and the PS3 kicks the crap out of it.



What do you do? Repeatedly try and champion the PS3 over the Xbox. You're biased too, in fact even moreso for continuing this petty debate for so long.

It's better then covering my ears and mocking the other side for even trying bring up an opposing view point.


You have yet to pull your head out of your ass and stop ignoring anything that shows the PS3 in a bad light.

I pointed out what I thought was bad for all consoles including but you just brushed it to the side.



No shit? My PC is 6 years old and can only just handle Source games on medium settings, but does that mean ZOMG RUSH OUT AND SHELL OUT $1,200 FOR A PS3 (assuming I could even find one here)? No, it means I either buy $3-400 worth of upgrades to bring it up to standard, or I buy a 360 for about $450. Why buy a PS3 when the 360 has a controller that actually fits my hands, a better (albeit priced) online service, a lower price, more of my kind of games, less features I'd end up paying for but never using (PSP connect), and games like GoW which, to be frank, don't look far behind current PS3 games and run just as well on less power? For all those numbers Sony threw to the rabid crowds since announcement, the PS3's only real advantage over the 360 is graphical (and even then, not by far).


What games that are not shooters good on the 360? It's always the common retort to mention Gears of War, Halo or Dead Rising. But what about the player who are not white males from 15-40?


Oh good work, let's try destroy someone's reputation because we're losing an argument! Totally uncalled for, it's not hard to see you're getting desparate.



Are you accusing me of being racist? Are you? At what fucking point does race tie in with my console preference? How dare you.


As a footnote, I'll be reporting that post. Nice job implying I'm a white supremacist because I don't go rabid at the sight of a PS3, asshole. You really did show your lack of maturity right there.

You failed to provide a view point that is not from white bred males fifteen to forty. Talking as if other demographics don't even exist for all three consoles. The Wii does have the other two consoles beat when it comes to the majority of potential players.



Kinda like when we all used to tell SVC that he needed to accept crit and he 'conveniently' missed our posts and started parading around quoting the filefront fanboys stupid enough to like his work.



[EDIT] Oh damn, isn't the PS3 great? Being designed to lock up and all? (http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/46197/Sony_Claims_Playstation_3_Designed_to_Freeze_up)

So, cls. What have you got to say to that? .

You claim I speak like another individual when you hardly know me at all. You restored to that comparison when you couldn't gain any ground.

Like a majority of websites it gives a bias statement with out pointing anything good about the machine they seem to hate.


I could be mistaken but I think they're letting it live for a little while before they do kill it off. They usually don't need to lock stuff, but clearly someone didn't like people saying bad (albeit true) things about the PS3 :rolleyes:

Because there was no balanced perspective from anyone,which you have yet to even try to provide. This topic was basically in need of an opposing view point on the two consoles.

For being 23 and a PS3 fanboy, his spelling seems to lag a decade or 2.
Six axes? LOL! Its SIXAXIS.

You didn't even bother to get my age correct, instead you just rounded up. And I don't even own a PS3, as I said before in this topic. Your criticism of my spelling seems arbitrary. Even if I didn't bother to use the correct name of the product.
PS3 fanboy is a label you pointed at me, just as I could just as well give you the label of being an Xbox 360 fanboy.




No one cares. Its not good to preach PS3 in a Halo 2 Vista website. You do realize most people here happen to like Halo.


Hence why this topic was in need of an opposing viewpoint.



NO CONSOLE should be $600. Same compliant I here all the time. A six hundred dollar purchase never made anybody broke. Especially if they make over ten dollars an hour.


Japan has PS3s sitting in the stores. No one wants a PS3, not even Japan. Developers are moving over to the 360 and the Wii.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/12/ps3-overtakes-total-xbox-360-sales-in-japan-already/

Doesn't seem like it when you read that does it?


What happened to Assassins Creed and Metal Gear Solid 4 being PS3 exclusives? Thats right, not even developers have faith on the PS3. What does the PS3 have that makes people want to whip out their wallets, and empty them? Anything? Maybe a shitty Blu-Ray player?

Metal Gear Solid 4 is still exculsive to the PS3. Other up coming exclusive games inculde Final Fantasy 14, Unknown Realms, Kurayami, Ridge Racer 7, Warhawk, and Devil May Cry 4.

Now name just as many games for the Xbox 360 that are not part of the shooter genre.


Oh yea, why bother when Dual Format players are just around the corner which can do both Blu-Ray AND HD-DVD. Now THAT is future proof.

Which are still a long ways away, Duel format means nothing unless the device has rewritable discs.

[Pooky]

to friedmetroid:

the playstation and xbox series had multimedia capability because their games used universal disc formats (CD for the PS1, DVD for the PS2/Xbox, dual-layer DVD and HD DVD for the 360, Blu-ray for the PS3). When your system reads games off the same discs used to hold movies, then there's no extra cost involved in supporting the movies too, since it's the same laser. It's just programming inside the hard drive and/or mobo that prevents other DVD drives from reading console game discs.

The Gamecube used its own discs, so it didn't have multimedia capabilities. The Wii follows suit.

It all depends on what kind of medium the game is stored on.

Who do you think designed the software to make those things play, Buddha? Software designers get paid too which inevitably raises the cost as all software in a shipped console comes integrated. There's no option to buy a PS2 without the ability to play DVDs, is there? The GameCube was so cheap primarily BECAUSE it was a barebones system with nothing else integrated into the hard drive. It used its own smaller, cheaper disks, which did little to drive down the price of games in the long run because of marketing, but you could still get some of the best Gamecube games for 20 bucks. Personally, I don't feel like reading through all this idiotic fanboy bickering, but if people can't agree on even ONE point about these three consoles then they should all just shut the hell up. I don't really want ANY of the next gen consoles because of all this annoying competition and rabid fanboys going OMFG XBOX LOLPWNS U ALL. Enough said on my part

[Morkon]

Your blind fanboyness is quite funny. Second, When responding to a comment, dont change the spelling of a word, duel is a fight, while dual means two. A Dual format PLAYER doesn't need to be rewritable, considering its job is to play the discs on your TV, not rewrite them. Also, they ARENT far away, LG is making one to be launched in the near future for about $1,100. Sure the price is a bit much, but it will drop faster than a PS3, and it supports both HD formats.

Good 360 games that arent Shooters? How about Viva Pinata, Halo Wars, Forza 2, Blue Dragon (Which did fairly well in Japan.), Too Human, And of course theres the arcade games like Geometry Wars, Uno, Streetfighter 2, Pac Man, and the upcomming Castlevania . None of those are shooters.


There ARE other good reasons why the 360>PS3, its not just price, your to ignorant to see what we are saying. The integration of Xbox Live is a great feature, you can jump into games, and have fun with your friends. Some games have clan support, which is also a plus, makes things easier for clan leaders. Another interesting thing is MS is asking peoples opinions on Xbox Live and will implement new features into it in the future. Sony on the other hand is the company that said that the PS3 would sell like 10 million (i forgot the number Ken Kutaragi said) units even if it didn't have a single game on launch day. Sony is arrogant, they need to learn to realize they aren't going to be #1 in the game industry forever. Also, the Xbox 360 has a CPU that works, unlike the Cell which is broken up and horrible. The development of a 360 game is much cheaper, easier, and quicker than that of a PS3, and its similar to the development of a PC game. Many Dev's don't want to risk wasting time and money on the PS3. Need I give more reasons the 360>PS3

[rossmum]

In who's opinion other then white males 15 to 40 years of age? The Xbox and the 360 only appeals to that particular group. A person that doesn't even fit in with that demographic is well, shit out of luck when it comes to 360.
How does it only appeal to the "white male" demographic? Huh? Please explain.


How times have you trotted out the "It cost too much money" excuse. That's the only real argument 360 owners have.
As I've said SEVERAL times, more like it's the only argument you aren't ignoring.



Neither can I. You can see my specs; yet I'd still buy a PC like my current over a PS3 without a second thought.
Good for you, at least we agree on something.


You ignored the fact that non Microsoft products from the West do just as well in Japan as other non Japanese products. Again, Ipods are just as popular there as anything else that cames from this side of the world.
I don't see what that has to do with this.


Do games even need rumble features these days. How does rumble even make a game interactive? Rumble capability was useless when it was introduced. It's on A boon too many is a bane of others.
Oh, so that explains why so many people were rather disappointed at its loss.


It's better then covering my ears and mocking the other side for even trying bring up an opposing view point.
LOL.

That's exactly what you are doing.


I pointed out what I thought was bad for all consoles including but you just brushed it to the side.
Got irony?


What games that are not shooters good on the 360? It's always the common retort to mention Gears of War, Halo or Dead Rising. But what about the player who are not white males from 15-40?
Don't be ignorant. There are plenty of other games which appeal to more or less everyone, from kiddie platformers to sports to shooters to RPGs.


You failed to provide a view point that is not from white bred males fifteen to forty. Talking as if other demographics don't even exist for all three consoles. The Wii does have the other two consoles beat when it comes to the majority of potential players.
At which point do demographics come into this? The PS3 and 360 are both aimed at the same market, from teenagers to adults of all races and both sexes. To say otherwise would be plain ignorant... then again, you've already proven you are.


You claim I speak like another individual when you hardly know me at all. You restored to that comparison when you couldn't gain any ground.
No, I made a comparison which was rather obvious. You refuse to accept that the PS3 is flawed, just like he refused to accept that his work was crap. In any case, you're in no position to talk.


Like a majority of websites it gives a bias statement with out pointing anything good about the machine they seem to hate.
Just like you don't point out a single good point about the 360. Funny, that.


Because there was no balanced perspective from anyone,which you have yet to even try to provide. This topic was basically in need of an opposing view point on the two consoles.
What it wasn't in need of was for a wannabe white knight to charge in and crap all over the thread with poorly thought-out arguments and start lording things like age and race over everyone to try and claw his way back.


You didn't even bother to get my age correct, instead you just rounded up. And I don't even own a PS3, as I said before in this topic. Your criticism of my spelling seems arbitrary. Even if I didn't bother to use the correct name of the product.
You made even more assumptions than Emmzee did, so I wouldn't be getting all indignant if I were you.


PS3 fanboy is a label you pointed at me, just as I could just as well give you the label of being an Xbox 360 fanboy.
No, you couldn't. Oh that's right - you ignored the reasons why, so you actually think you still can. My bad.


Hence why this topic was in need of an opposing viewpoint.
From what you've started posting, that 'opposing viewpoint' is the quickest way to get it locked.



Same compliant I here all the time. A six hundred dollar purchase never made anybody broke. Especially if they make over ten dollars an hour.
Except all those people who have more important things to pay for, lack jobs, or barely get enough to keep themselves going. Stop being an ignorant snob.




http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/12/ps3-overtakes-total-xbox-360-sales-in-japan-already/

Doesn't seem like it when you read that does it?
Already explained; not that you'd take a blind bit of notice.



Metal Gear Solid 4 is still exculsive to the PS3. Other up coming exclusive games inculde Final Fantasy 14, Unknown Realms, Kurayami, Ridge Racer 7, Warhawk, and Devil May Cry 4.
Big fucking whoop. I'd rather wait until they're ported, just as nearly every good PS2 game was.


Now name just as many games for the Xbox 360 that are not part of the shooter genre.
Kameo (remember reading about it somewhere) and Halo Wars the only ones I can think of off the top of my head, but that's hardly surprising as I don't even bother to follow what's going on with 360 games. I'm sure someone else could effortlessly complete that list for me.



Let me tell you something, buddy. Your hypocritical, snobbish and plain ignorant attitude is getting you nowhere except on everyone's nerves. Learn to fucking deal with the fact that the PS3 is not as good a console overall as the 360 from any sensible viewpoint, and stop using off-topic interjections, personal slanders and cheese-grater logic in your arguments. At this rate, I won't even have to continue arguing since your posts are so full of pro-Sony bullshit.

Take a step back and look in the fucking mirror.

[Reaper Man]

[EDIT] Oh damn, isn't the PS3 great? Being designed to lock up and all? (http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/46197/Sony_Claims_Playstation_3_Designed_to_Freeze_up)

>_> the PS3 I played at the PS3 convention locked up.

[rossmum]

...OH SHIT SON! SOMEONE'S USING FACTS THAT SHOW THE PS3 IN A BAD LIGHT! RUN FOR THE REPLY BUTTON!

Man, this is hilarious.

[TheGhost]

While a topic is still constructive it can remain open, even when we have people on both sides of an argument that are both firm believers that their opinion is correct. As long as they choose to debate in a manner which conducive of a healthy discussion, it may continue.

However, when a topic starts to abandon the issues and turns to destructively attacking other members rather than debating or sharing opinions, the topic gets out of hand. Fanboyism is a common thing on forums, and debates like these can take place as long as they don't turn out like this one did. If you want to participate in these discussions, you have to learn to respect that other people may not always agree with you, but respect them and their opinions anyway. Agree to disagree.

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