Unlimited Energy

[kungpow]

Do you think it is possible? and if so in what way do you think it is possible ;)

My money is on solar power.

[Texrat]

Define unlimited.

From our perspective, though, yeah it's possible-- especially if we get out of conventional thinking. There is energy involved in universal processes that we know exists but can't (yet) tap.

Solar holds a lot of promise, but I'm convinced forces have been at work for decades to stifle useful development. While I worked at TI, the company developed spherical solar cells that could be sprayed onto just about any substrate and had high efficiency. There was supposed to be a test deployment by Con Ed in California, then *poof*. Little or nothing about the technology afterward. I'd suspect maybe it failed EXCEPT that as an employee I saw the internal reports. There was a LOT of promise there...

LOL... I found this link: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/07/spherical_solar.php

The author says reported efficiencies were only 10%. I remember the company saying tests demonstrated that efficiencies of 60% or better were possible. Some smoke being blown from somewhere...

[kungpow]

I guess i just totally made an ass of myself really =P Solar energy is far from being unlimited as the sun wont last forever (i doubt the human race will even last that long o_O) by unlimited i mean a renewable resource basically

[Patrickssj6]

There is Energy and something else similar to that name...something with Eper...anyway it defines that energy has only one direction...so it's impossible to revert a process without the use of extra energy.

So there is no...unlimited energy.

[nooBBooze]

Energy cant be consumed only converted therefore energy as a whole is unlimited :eng101: [/smartypants]

[Emmzee]

If there were a way to harness power off of asshats on the Internet, this site could power Detroit by itself.

There's your unlimited power.

[nooBBooze]

:saddowns:

[rossmum]

If there were a way to harness power off of asshats on the Internet, this site could power Detroit by itself.

There's your unlimited power.
Brilliant post.

[Rob Oplawar]

You guys need to read this short story (it's about exactly this subject):
http://www.swiftgear.com/last_question(long).html
Isaac Asimov is brilliant. Er, was. Wait. Is he still alive or not? He must have died, or else I'd have a new short story to read every week.

[MNC]

k-xPSxMA580

[Dr Nick]

If there were a way to harness power off of asshats on the Internet, this site could power DetroitAll of North America, and possibly Australia by itself.

There's your unlimited power.ftfy

[teh lag]

k-xPSxMA580

Damnit I was gonna post that :maddowns:

[Mr Buckshot]

If we could power our vehicles by bodily waste...awesome (though there'd be a pungent smell at every parking lot).

[Skiiran]

If there were a way to harness power off of asshats on the Internet, this site could power Detroit by itself.

There's your unlimited power.
Inanity Engine? Dude, FUCK powering a city, we could break constants with that power, man.

We could visit Mars powered on Penis jokes in under half a second.

[Con]

While I worked at TI, the company developed spherical solar cells that could be sprayed onto just about any substrate and had high efficiency.
Seriously? How did it work?

[Texrat]

Seriously? How did it work?

I just recall all of the details offhand, but I think there are more details littered here and there on the web...

[Rob Oplawar]

omg steorn torbay motor free energy!
> 100% efficiency ftw.

You know what I hate? people who immediately dismiss claims that researchers have "broken the laws of physics." Yes, the "laws" of physics have proven to be correct in nearly every single case so far, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the universe works exactly that way. As far as we've seen so far, these laws we have invented describe the way it works, but who knows, we may be (and probably are) on many levels completely wrong.
People need to stop saying "the laws of physics say you're a dumbass" and start saying "I'm looking at your claim and have reasoned and tested and demonstrated that you are a dumbass."


... Whoa, where did that come from?
/ot

[Texrat]

As far as we've seen so far, these laws we have invented describe the way it works, but who knows, we may be (and probably are) on many levels completely wrong.

One of those levels is called Quantum Mechanics.

Stay out of that muck, though, and the laws of classical physics are rock solid.

[Chewy Gumball]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but all laws of physics are rock solid. Quantum Mechanics is mostly just theories isn't it?

[Texrat]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but all laws of physics are rock solid. Quantum Mechanics is mostly just theories isn't it?

We may be needlessly crossing wires. I don't see that I implied any laws of classical physics were not rock solid, so...:confused2:

QM certainly involves a multitude of theoretical effluvia, but much of it is comprised of observed phenomena. The dilemma is applying those phenomena to a classical framework of understanding. We fail. Like when we come to understand that if a photon strikes your eye from a star a billion light years away, you somehow caused that to happen by virtue of observation. But that defies our knowledge of causation, because surely we aren't reaching back in time to coax that cute little photon to our eyeball-- right?

In a nutshell this sort of screwy occurrence makes us realize that at some bizarre level we are strangely connected to the origin of the stars themselves, instantly linked to the distant past in a way our little minds can't fathom.

Now... how do we get free eternal energy from that (see how I veered back on topic? Huh? +rep right?)

[Atty]

Only if we could create a Key stroke keyboard powered engine. Then Rossmum could lead us out of the energy crisis as well as providing us with epic posts! :D

[Skiiran]

Only if we could create a Key stroke keyboard powered engine. Then Rossmum could lead us out of the energy crisis as well as providing us with epic posts! :D
But that wouldn't be very efficient because you use up more energy trying to get the messages ONTO the internet than you would get from the typing. In fact, you be losing power each time.

[Atty]

You're obviously extremely ignorant to the power behind the Ross of Mum's fingers. That man can work magic, or haven't you seen his posting record?

Moving back on topic from my attempted derailment "itt joke" post, I don't think we'll every have truly unlimited power, only extremely efficient power. It is definitely very far off though, our best hope in today's world would be either Geothermal (maybe?) or Solar.

[Texrat]

But that wouldn't be very efficient because you use up more energy trying to get the messages ONTO the internet than you would get from the typing. In fact, you be losing power each time.

Amazingly enough, Ross is endowed with a 150% energy efficiency. Studies show that he was born with a warp core in his head (displacing a significant volume of unused brain matter) that taps into zero point energy. Even as we speak scientists are working to boost that efficiency. Some theorize that up to 198% is achievable if more brain matter is displaced. Permanently.

[Skiiran]

Amazingly enough, Ross is endowed with a 150% energy efficiency. Studies show that he was born with a warp core in his head (displacing a significant volume of unused brain matter) that taps into zero point energy. Even as we speak scientists are working to boost that efficiency. Some theorize that up to 198% is achievable if more brain matter is displaced. Permanently.
:awesome:

[Atty]

Amazingly enough, Ross is endowed with a 150% energy efficiency. Studies show that he was born with a warp core in his head (displacing a significant volume of unused brain matter) that taps into zero point energy. Even as we speak scientists are working to boost that efficiency. Some theorize that up to 198% is achievable if more brain matter is displaced. Permanently.Sadly the build up of exotic particles in and around his body have caused a break down of his major organs, sadly he'll die in the very near future. :(

[Skiiran]

Sadly the build up of exotic particles in and around his body have caused a break down of his major organs, sadly he'll die in the very near future. :(
We can rebuild him.

[n00b1n8R]

IIT we build a dyson sphere.

[Skiiran]

IIT we build a dyson sphere.
Not enough mass, build more mass extractors arrrgh.

I read somewhere that ALL of the mass in our system, even all the gases, is enough to make a Dyson Sphere only 3 meters thick.

Unless, of course, you mean those pansy satellite arrays.

[MNC]

Amazingly enough, Ross is endowed with a 150% energy efficiency. Studies show that he was born with a warp core in his head (displacing a significant volume of unused brain matter) that taps into zero point energy. Even as we speak scientists are working to boost that efficiency. Some theorize that up to 198% is achievable if more brain matter is displaced. Permanently.

Wait, you mean there's still some brain matter left?
Nonsense!

[Texrat]

We can rebuild him.

We don't have the technology.

[Emmzee]

Amazingly enough, Ross is endowed with a 150% energy efficiency. Studies show that he was born with a warp core in his head (displacing a significant volume of unused brain matter) that taps into zero point energy. Even as we speak scientists are working to boost that efficiency. Some theorize that up to 198% is achievable if more brain matter is displaced. Permanently.
But where does he get the dilithium crystals to power the warp core?

[Skiiran]

But where does he get the dilithium crystals to power the warp core?
It's obvious.

Internet Respiration's product is dilithium. That's how he's been powered since birth. :awesome:

[Texrat]

So dilithium is a form of... phlegm.

Great.

[n00b1n8R]

TO THE HOSPITAL!

[Texrat]

I can't get past the fact that the USS Enterprise gets up to warp 9.4 on... snot.

[Sec]

If there were a way to harness power off of asshats on the Internet, this site could power Detroit by itself.

There's your unlimited power.
+Rep:p

[Emmzee]

I can't get past the fact that the USS Enterprise gets up to warp 9.4 on... snot.
And I can't believe the Borg would assimilate mucus.

[Texrat]

And I can't believe the Borg would assimilate mucus.

Maybe it has biological and technological distinctiveness .

[Emmzee]

Maybe it has biological and technological distinctiveness .
But it carries viruses.

[Tweek]

nothing a bit of borg nanoprobes cant annihilate.

[Emmzee]

nothing a bit of borg nanoprobes cant annihilate.
Adapt to*
:startrek101:

[Skiiran]

Adapt to*
:startrek101:
ASSIMILATE**
:startrek102:

[Texrat]

Since Rob closed his thread...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Astronomers have taken a baby step in trying to answer the cosmic question of where we come from.
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/TECH/space/10/10/cosmic.dust.ap/art.cosmic.dust.jpg An illustration shows dusty grains blowing in the winds of a quasar, or active black hole.


http://www.cnn.com/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/base_skins/baseplate/corner_wire_BL.gif


Planets and much on them, including humans, come from dust -- mostly from dying stars. But where did the dust that helped form those early stars come from?
A NASA telescope may have spotted one of the answers. It's in the wind bursting out of super-massive black holes.
The Spitzer Space Telescope identified large quantities of freshly made space dust in a quasar about 8 billion light years from here.
Astronomers used the telescope to break down the wavelengths of light in the quasar to figure out what was in the space dust. They found signs of glass, sand, crystal, marble, rubies and sapphires, said Ciska Markwick-Kemper of the University of Manchester in England. She is the lead author of a study that will be published later this month in Astrophysical Journal Letters.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/10/10/cosmic.dust.ap/index.html

[rossmum]

Awesome.

[Emmzee]

And remember, that's 8 billion years in the past, so there could be intelligent life already. Or at least life.

[Con]

Amazing :o

[n00b1n8R]

wait, so this "wind" is creating matter from nothing?

:o

[atomicpower93]

Do you think it is possible? and if so in what way do you think it is possible ;)

My money is on solar power.
lol its not possible even in theory because all of them break the law of the conservation of energy
you cannot create or destroy energy it can only be transformed!

[Bodzilla]

This is an awesome Discovery.

Nice job tex as usual ;)

[n00b1n8R]

lol its not possible even in theory because all of them break newtons 1st law
you cannot create or destroy energy it can only be transformed!

:quantumphysics:
gosh, what are you a Neanderthal? get with the times :downs:

[rossmum]

lol its not possible even in theory because all of them break newtons 1st law
you cannot create or destroy energy it can only be transformed!
Uh, what?

Last time I checked, that law had nothing to do with Newton.

[Texrat]

Uh, what?

Last time I checked, that law had nothing to do with Newton.

Agreed. Newton was all about motion.

[rossmum]

Shit, what was that French tax guy's name, the one who figured that out?

Anyway, it was him who proposed that, something like 150 years after Newton.

[atomicpower93]

:quantumphysics:
gosh, what are you a Neanderthal? get with the times :downs:
well yes but the law is only a model of which to base our science on it isnt neccicarily true, remember its only a theory!
(btw ive edited my 1st post)

[rossmum]

Yeah, because it's not like experimental evidence exists for it or anything.

Oh, wait.

[Rob Oplawar]

well yes but the law is only a model of which to base our science on it isnt neccicarily true, remember its only a theory!
(btw ive edited my 1st post)

hey, someone agrees with me for once! lol experimental evidence or not, the laws of physics are nothing more than models that have proven to be very accurate at predicting, when it comes to it, motion, be it motion of massive stars or electrons around protons. And the reason that quantum physics and relativity don't agree is that at least one of them is wrong, not that the universe is just inexplicable. And although it gets less and less likely the more evidence is accrued, classical laws of physics like Newton's may still prove to be inaccurate.

[rossmum]

True, but his post is still wrong. Energy is not conserved (at least not once you start looking on a miniscule scale), which is one of the fundamental parts of quantum theory.

I just wish people would actually learn what they're talking about before they open their mouths.