This is the Way the World Ends D=

[legionaire45]

Bungie might be separating (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/02/bungie-microsoft-part-company)from Microsoft D=.

Another source (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/bungie-microsoft-tight+lipped-on-separation-rumors-305825.php)

[Rob Oplawar]

you're saying that's a bad thing?

[Teh Ganon]

nintendo ftw. I'm not sure what to think of this, makes me a bit happy somehow. But the inquirer lies A LOT... trust me my grandmother reads that crap. yes she actually cares about "WHO BRITNEY SPEARS IS SLEEPING WITH NOW!" But most lies are based off of fact :l

edit: kotaku makes it a bit more believable.

[legionaire45]

nintendo ftw. I'm not sure what to think of this, makes me a bit happy somehow. But the inquirer lies A LOT... trust me my grandmother reads that crap. yes she actually cares about "WHO BRITNEY SPEARS IS SLEEPING WITH NOW!" But most lies are based off of fact :l

edit: kotaku makes it a bit more believable.
Heres some more discussion on GBX w/ some more sources. Also, wrong inquirer. (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=65898)

I'm not saying its a good or bad thing, although it seems very unlikely (or at least makes me scratch my head in wonder) that MS would want to dump quite possibly it's biggest cash cow on the Xbox.

[343guiltymc]

Well at least it will convince me to buy a another console than that shitty 360. Hell I hope Bungie goes back to making Mac/Pc games.

[Con]

Well at least it will convince me to buy a another console than that shitty 360. Hell I hope Bungie goes back to making Mac/Pc games.
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[Emmzee]

nintendo ftw.
That one word and an acronym made me stop reading your post so I could laugh my ass off.

[Ki11a_FTW]

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

Nintendo sucks ASS

[Mr Buckshot]

Nintendo is great with innovative ways to play (i.e. the Wii controller and the DS touch screen), but it's never known for powerful technology, hence Nintendo's consoles are not ideal for fast-paced shooting games. It's sad, since the DS's touch screen makes for precise FPS control, and the Wii-mote is perfect as a "light gun" that uses gyroscopes instead of light detection. Sony and Microsoft are always battling over who has the more powerful hardware, but the way the games are played is still the same as it was on the old Playstation - you sit on the couch mashing buttons on a two-handed gamepad, and twirling analog sticks.

If Halo were on a Wii, it would control very well (using the Wiimote to aim would be ownage) but the Wii's hardware would prevent the developers from giving us high-definition crisp visuals, which are the rage in shooters these days.

Bottom line: Halo isn't very fitting on Nintendo systems, but it would control very well.

343guiltymc, Bungie still makes Mac/PC games...there's a Mac version of Halo, and the entire Halo franchise is on PC except for Halo 3 (but it WILL come, trust me). What you meant to say is that Bungie should go back to making Mac and PC releases at the same time as console releases.

[flibitijibibo]

I could definitely go for Bungie making PC (/Mac I guess) games exclusively again...

[Pooky]

Well at least it will convince me to buy a another console than that shitty 360. Hell I hope Bungie goes back to making Mac/Pc games.
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343guiltymc, Bungie still makes Mac/PC games...there's a Mac version of Halo, and the entire Halo franchise is on PC except for Halo 3 (but it WILL come, trust me). What you meant to say is that Bungie should go back to making Mac and PC releases at the same time as console releases.

No, Bungie does not make PC games, other developers get contracted to make shitty, buggy, utter failures of ports to the PC. Though I've heard good things about Halo 1 Mac.

[Teh Ganon]

you do realize i was joking when i said nintendo right? we would then end up with some game named "grunt crossing" or "halo kitty island"

[Hotrod]

you do realize i was joking when i said nintendo right? we would then end up with some game named "grunt crossing" or "halo kitty island"

*imagines grunt crossing and halo kitty island* *shudders* I hope that the world will never come to that.

[ExAm]

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No, Bungie does not make PC games, other developers get contracted to make shitty, buggy, utter failures of ports to the PC. Though I've heard good things about Halo 1 Mac.Bungie has its ROOTS in Mac and PC development, foo'.

H1 Mac has fewer features than H1 PC, but it does have FSAA bult in, and a graphics control screen that pops up when you start it, so you don't have mess with any of that target line shit.

[JDMFSeanP]

Microsoft still owns the rights to halo though which is nice, id hate seeing it on another console.

I hope the do expand into more games though.

[Xetsuei]

Well at least it will convince me to buy a another console than that shitty 360. Hell I hope Bungie goes back to making Mac/Pc games.

360> all.

[Atty]

you're saying that's a bad thing?Yes. Especially for Bungie.

It would be near developer suicide, Microsoft's Game Studios are possibly the best out there right now, especially in Bungie's position. They have near unlimited resources in both development and in the financial area, they have the resume to demand such resources and be given them without a second thought. I can't see any reason why Bungie would leave them, even to explore their own IP past the Halo Universe.

[Rob Oplawar]

i doubt it would be micrsoft intentionally "giving up" its biggest "cash cow", but if bungie really is going its own way it's bungie's idea, and they have the right to do it. But I am afraid that if bugnie really does split off, ms will continue to make halo games.

... what am I talking about, of course ms will continue to make halo games.

in that case my plan is to not expect anything good from the inevitable halo spinoffs unless bungie is directly involved. That extends to halo wars- it looks like it might be okay, but i'm not expecting jack shit from it.

[ExAm]

Independent developers still release for the 360, so it's possible for Bungie to remain independent and still produce quality material.

[Pooky]

Bungie has its ROOTS in Mac and PC development, foo'.

H1 Mac has fewer features than H1 PC, but it does have FSAA bult in, and a graphics control screen that pops up when you start it, so you don't have mess with any of that target line shit.

Did you even read what I said?

Seriously, did you? Go back and try again. I said other developers, as in, not bungie, get contracted (i.e. Gearbox, Hired Gun). They then proceed to butcher the Halo games and make terrible PC ports. I never said anything about Bungie or its ROOTS, FOO'. So learn to read please.

I guess I could have put "anymore" in my post... but anyone should be able to get it.

[Jay2645]

Personally, I don't care too much about graphics, as long as I can tell the difference between a Grunt and a Hunter.
The Wii's graphics are just over the graphics the best PC graphics card out there could produce (Look at SSB Brawl), meaning any new Halo games for the Wii would look slightly better then H2V or H1PC do.
Also, the Wii-mote would make for a very interesting FPS (Metroid Prime, anyone?).
I have a feeling Nintendo will jump on Bungie IF it leaves Microsoft, I believe the president of Nintendo whose name is too hard to spell stated something to that effect at E3 2007 to one of the Bungie guys.

[Dr Nick]

No it's not.

Satoru Iwata.

[DaneO'Roo]

So did you all forget that Microsoft was only going to own Bungie till Halo 3, and that Bungie was being sold to EA afterwards?

Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that.

[n00b1n8R]

then bungie leaving M$ wouldn't be the end of the world.
being sold to EA would be :fail:

[Dr Nick]

then bungie leaving M$ wouldn't be the end of the world.
being sold to EA would be :fail:
Yep, especially since the only thing I like from EA is CnC.

Well, I hope they do good.

[Tweek]

ONLY GOOD can come from this.

totally.

[Agamemnon]

It looks like Alex Seropian's dream might actually come true.

[jahrain]

Yeah things could only get better, other than the fact that Bungie sold out all rights to the halo franchise to Microsoft, who is going to screw it like over used whore. :fail:


According to the email Microsoft was interfering with various aspects of Bungie’s business. It claims Voles were fiddling in everything Bungie did, from marketing to public relations. According to the email, Microsoft was also “stingy” with profits.
Ha... Bungie should go indi again and continue the Marathon franchise (just make it pretty much Halo with a different name and IP). Pretty much microsoft owes everything to bungie as if it wasn't for Halo, the xbox, as well as xbox live would have been huge flops. If this turns out to be true, this just proves my assumption that microsoft was taking full advantage of them.

[Emmzee]

Bungie's just high and mighty that Halo 3 made more in a single day than any movie in its opening weekend. Also, it's probably speculation to sell more stock.

[Hotrod]

So did you all forget that Microsoft was only going to own Bungie till Halo 3, and that Bungie was being sold to EA afterwards?

Umm, your not serious, are you?

[Random]

The Wii's graphics are just over the graphics the best PC graphics card out there could produce (Look at SSB Brawl), meaning any new Halo games for the Wii would look slightly better then H2V or H1PC do.

... :lol: you couldn't be more wrong.

http://www.inbox.net.mk/wp-content/2006/10/crysis.jpg thats around what crysis looks on my computer. My computer is as good or better then the 360. The wii's graphics are last gen, but thats not what is important to Nintendo, and the wii is fun anyhow.

[Pooky]

The Wii's graphics are just over the graphics the best PC graphics card out there could produce (Look at SSB Brawl)

LMFAO! :lol:

[Sec]

The Wii's graphics are just over the graphics the best PC graphics card out there could produce (Look at SSB Brawl), meaning any new Halo games for the Wii would look slightly better then H2V or H1PC do.
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Do i hear Quad SLI nvidia 8800 640mb topping at 2.56GB of video processing memory?:XD:
Snaps fingers laughing ass off.

[Phopojijo]

Do i hear Quad SLI nvidia 8800 640mb topping at 2.56GB of video processing memory?:XD:
Snaps fingers laughing ass off.You cannot quad-up GeForce 8's.

... yet.

Also -- the Wii's graphics were confirmed to be slightly better than the Xbox 1... but nowhere near the other two consoles. That's not the goal.

[343guiltymc]

Well I never tried a Wii but my friend told using the controller is very...exaggerated.

[Rob Oplawar]

yeah, although this thread is getting way off topic, i do have to say that the controller for the wii is as much a gimmick as the touch screen on the ds, but then again, both the wii and the ds are ridiculously popular right now, so I guess the gimmick worked. Personally, I don't really go for the wand control for any of the wii games that are out so far.

And as far as using the wiimote for aiming goes, can you imagine doing a halo marathon? (lol no pun intended) I like sitting with a controller for hours, but the way I see it your arm would get really tired pretty quick.

[Archon23]

I still love seeing my friends faces light up as they get their Wii.

Its just so fun to realize they are sorely going to be disappointed with the games. Have fun with your Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 :downs:. Your going to have to for a while......

[Bodzilla]

So did you all forget that Microsoft was only going to own Bungie till Halo 3, and that Bungie was being sold to EA afterwards?

Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that.
thats funny dano, because....

i Remeber u telling me "SHIT I forgot they where sold to EA" on xfire.
>_>

[Rob Oplawar]

I really hope that's not the case. EA has been :fail: lately.

[Archon23]

Wait. EA.

GodDAMNIT!

[legionaire45]

I demand confirmation on whether EA has purchased them or not D=.

If it is true then I will cry for 4 hours straight.

[Teh Ganon]

If they do buy them your going to most likely see master chief in madden. Mb even def jam. street football. tony hawks pro skater?

[Con]

Dano, you better be lying.

[IPBJT!]

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12834
It is now official.

[Agamemnon]

Good news. Maybe they will now actually do as they say: " [build] on creativity, originality and the freedom to pursue ideas."

[Rob Oplawar]

But I don't like what I'm getting out of that press release:

... long-term development and publishing relationship focused on the continued success of the “Halo” franchise ...
Look, as much as I love Halo, and believe me, I'm obsessed, I fully expect Halo to go the way of Star Wars. I mean, this is inevitable- MS is going to keep making the games, and if you think the current level of marketing and over-hype is bad, wait till you see the next game, and it's just not going to work. More and more people are going to jump off the Halo Hype bandwagon and jump onto the Halo is way overhyped bandwagon, and it's just going to be sad.

Anyway, I know this is going to happen- I called it, everybody- and I was just hoping that Bungie wasn't going to be involved. Let MS kill the franchise all they want- we'll still have the original Halo, and we'll still have Bungie producing terriffic original games- unless, of course, Bungie kills itself by continuing to make Halo games when Halo 3 is such a clear cut, obvious, never-going-to-get-a-better-chance place to move on.

[Agamemnon]

I called it back on November 9th, 2004, Rob. :p

[Rob Oplawar]

lol i'm just sayin that i'm sayin it so that when the day comes i can say now didn't i say that? damn right i said that.

[ExAm]

Halo 3 is such a clear cut, obvious, never-going-to-get-a-better-chance place to move on.Possible H3 spoilers in this tag:
It would have been, had they not foreshadowed more with the Legendary ending.

[Atty]

If they do buy them your going to most likely see master chief in madden. Mb even def jam. street football. tony hawks pro skater?No. Microsoft owns the rights to Halo, Bungie can be bought my Sony and still the Master Chief and all related IP belongs to Microsoft.

[TeeKup]

If Bungie was bought by Sony I would cry.

Not so much if it was Bandai Namco, recently they came out with some good installments, and lets not forget what comes out the 25th of this month. :-3

[jahrain]

If Bungie was bought by Sony I would cry.

Not so much if it was Bandai Namco, recently they came out with some good installments, and lets not forget what comes out the 25th of this month. :-3
Sony doesn't really buy out game developers.

[MereCatfish]

Bungie will not sell themselves again.

[jahrain]

Bungie will not sell themselves again.
I hope so.

[DaneO'Roo]

Well looks like that EA shit that sprung up ages ago was a lie.

Awesome choice on bungies part.

Also, looks like bungie need a skybox painter. Too bad I haven't painted one before :downs:

[Phopojijo]

Well looks like that EA shit that sprung up ages ago was a lie.

Awesome choice on bungies part.

Also, looks like bungie need a skybox painter. Too bad I haven't painted one before :downs:Many use Terragen.

[Atty]

You have to be somewhat talented to get a job at a big name developer like Bungie though. :downs:

[Mr Buckshot]

I especially want Bungie to make its games for PC, but I think they should make games for other consoles too (well maybe not the Wii which isn't fit for hectic high-def action despite having the best controls). I know that Halo on the PS3 sounds very paradoxical, but the PS3 is also a powerhouse built specifically for 1080p action. Maybe Halo won't go to other consoles, but the next Marathon might.

As for Halo Wars, that's being developed by Ensemble Studios, which made the critically acclaimed Age of Empires series (the second game was the best). I have high expectations since Ensemble does have to live up to very high standards.

And I wouldn't mind Bungie making small-size Halo-themed minigames for download via the Xbox Live Arcade. A Halo sidescroller would be some mindless fun.

[Skiiran]

It is now worth noting that this shit is now for realz. (http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12834)

[Bodzilla]

As for Halo Wars, that's being developed by Ensemble Studios, which made the critically acclaimed Age of Empires series (the second game was the best). I have high expectations since Ensemble does have to live up to very high standards.
You like the age of empires strategy games?
i personally couldnt stand them. if u had enough resources u could just keep building more shit on your base.
it was so slow to get anywhere.

Starcraft ftw.

[Rob Oplawar]

Possible H3 spoilers in this tag:
It would have been, had they not foreshadowed more with the Legendary ending.
Yeah, I like that extra little bit, but in my mind they should just leave it at that- subtlety is better than making everything glaringly obvious, and with games and movies and such, when you get to this point it's better to leave the rest to your imagination.
But of course the reason they put that in there is yes, to leave the storyline open for sequels.
It's just, you know, after this point Halo can only go downhill, even if the game they make is really terrific, because it's bindun.

[Syuusuke]

I will buy Bungie...with what little money I have.

[Snowy]

So um ya... Bungie working on a game set in the Halo universe (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163440).

[Bodzilla]

well thats a surprise >_>

bungie will continue to make games based in the same universe considering the Marathon trillogy(?) and halo Trillogy where set in the same universe. now if u consider the depth of the universe in relation to it's history it would be stupid to NOT use the same universe again.

The Halo universe is as much a part of bungie as halo was.
i dont think they will ever make a game outside of it.

Edit: i think i just need to squeese universe in another couple times >_>

[Rob Oplawar]

no bungie D=. move on.

actually, i vaguely remember somebody in bungie said something about bungie being big and having some ppl work on halo while others work on new things.

come to think of it, that is exactly the way it should be. if anyone continues the halo universe it should be bungie, and at the same time bungie can still come up with original stuff!

man, it's nice to have produced a ridiculously popular game. good perks.

[Bodzilla]

no but it wont be the MC as we know him.
and it wont have the same gameplay or gamestyle as halo.

It'll be like going from marathon to halo.
Completely different, same universe.

[n00b1n8R]

tbh, if bungie wants to make a new game, I want it to either be the fall of reach, playing as jhonson (it's be awesome to play him, to fight with the other spartans, especially because you know your going to loose the battle) or to play the events of halo 1 but from the arbiters point of view (remembering he was the leader of the fleet that attacked reach. it'd be good to go kill some humans for once >:^D).

[343guiltymc]

tbh, if bungie wants to make a new game, I want it to either be the fall of reach, playing as jhonson (it's be awesome to play him, to fight with the other spartans, especially because you know your going to loose the battle) or to play the events of halo 1 but from the arbiters point of view (remembering he was the leader of the fleet that attacked reach. it'd be good to go kill some humans for once >:^D).
That will be too easy, Sarge will not die (unless it's halo 3).

[Rob Oplawar]

I still really think the more they milk Halo the thinner and sicker it's going to get.
Unless they do a completely different gameplay style that totally kicks ass (read: the Peter Jackson project, perhaps?) even if the storyline is awesome, it will still just be the same old same old which will progressively be interpreted as worse and worse.

[343guiltymc]

I still really think the more they milk Halo the thinner and sicker it's going to get.
Unless they do a completely different gameplay style that totally kicks ass (read: the Peter Jackson project, perhaps?) even if the storyline is awesome, it will still just be the same old same old which will progressively be interpreted as worse and worse.
I'm guessing Jackson is going to do a Halo RPG. Just a hunch. ;)

[Hotrod]

-what he said-

You should put a spoiler around that mister.

[PlasbianX]

Every game Bungie tries to fix something or add something new. Now after halo 3, what really is there left to do to make halo unique? Only thing i could see new added is fully destructible environments, possibly a nonlinear story with backtracking, and maybe AI for online. I dunno, i like halo, but i want something new.

[Bodzilla]

no but it wont be the MC as we know him.
and it wont have the same gameplay or gamestyle as halo.

It'll be like going from marathon to halo.
Completely different, same universe.
could somebody please read my posts.

as i said Bungie have made the decision to not continue halo.
H3 was it, it's over.

Now, the difference between Marathon and Halo is Vast, yet they are still set in the same universe.
the Trend will continue.
Completely different game, different gameplay Same universe.

[Rob Oplawar]

I dunno, i like halo, but i want something new.
now that I know what this acronym means, iawtp.

and then what I want is new universe. The Halo universe is very cool and all, but it borrows from so many different sci-fi sources it's not even funny. I'd love to see what else Bungie can come up with.

Erm, besides political battles in the animal kingdom. I'm still not sure what to make of that. But I digress; that's not Bungie.

[Bodzilla]

In order for then to create a new, believeable universe will take Years and years for them to accomplish.
i dont feel like waiting till 2020 Till bungie has made a new universe with the same depth as Halo's or should i say marathon's (considering it came first).

It will be a completely different game.
we probebly wont hear about Covenant, we wont hear about the forerunners....

IT will be Completely different.

[ExAm]

could somebody please read my posts.

as i said Bungie have made the decision to not continue halo.
H3 was it, it's over.

Now, the difference between Marathon and Halo is Vast, yet they are still set in the same universe.
the Trend will continue.
Completely different game, different gameplay Same universe.
Link or it didn't happen.

[Emmzee]

Halo 3 is such a clear cut, obvious, never-going-to-get-a-better-chance place to move on.
Just like RoboCop, but they just had to make two shitty sequels.

[Emmzee]

as i said Bungie have made the decision to not continue halo.
H3 was it, it's over.

Bullshit.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/sep06/09-27X06ShowcasePR.mspx

A landmark partnership announced between Academy Award-winning writer, director and producer Peter Jackson, Academy Award-winning screenwriter Fran Walsh, and Microsoft Game Studios will create two new interactive entertainment series exclusively for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live®. The first series will be a collaborative effort with Bungie Studios to co-create the next great chapter in the “Halo®” universe. The second series will be an entirely original property targeted at bringing new audiences into the captivating world of interactive entertainment. In addition, Microsoft Game Studios will partner with Jackson and Walsh to establish Wingnut Interactive, a studio dedicated to the creation of world-class interactive entertainment.

I'm sorry, what was that?

[Bodzilla]

IT's a second series Bassed in the Halo universe.

Halo was bassed in marathons universe, and is marathon ANYthing at all like Halo? no.
not to mention that it's targetting new audiences which means it will play, look, feel and sound different.
it's not halo, it's something else.

[JDMFSeanP]

It better not be like Final Fantasy: Halo.

[n00b1n8R]

That will be too easy, Sarge will not die (unless it's halo 3).
because everyone was so terrified the chief would die in H1 and H2 :downs:


I still really think the more they milk Halo the thinner and sicker it's going to get.
Unless they do a completely different gameplay style that totally kicks ass (read: the Peter Jackson project, perhaps?) even if the storyline is awesome, it will still just be the same old same old which will progressively be interpreted as worse and worse.

so go back to the fall of reach. play as jhonsen and fight with the marines instead of using them as expendible slightly inteligent things to stick in hogs gun turrents. go multiplayer with massive battles between everybody playing the marines against AI covenant.

heck, you could even go play harvest as jhonsen. retro UNSC crap, no spartans and some retro coveys to fight (like the HW elites and crap).

[ExAm]

IT's a second series Bassed in the Halo universe.

Halo was bassed in marathons universe, and is marathon ANYthing at all like Halo? no.
not to mention that it's targetting new audiences which means it will play, look, feel and sound different.
it's not halo, it's something else.The Chief is drifting towards some ominous looking planet. If that doesn't set things up for another Halo, I don't know what does.