View Full Version : How to be a Good Sportsman in Halo PC and CE Guide
jedimas4
October 6th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Ive noticed over the past couple of years the amount of negative waves and comments during multiplayer games in Halo PC and CE, particularly CE, and even more particularly the CMT Snow Grove servers. So Ive decided to create a neat tip guide on how to behave properly during multiplayer sessions, plz take them into consideration.
Tip 1
Dont use very provocative language.
Some people think that this makes them all cool and what not, but in reality it just shows how pathetic you are and makes you a sore loser, even if youre winning the match. Using words like damn and WTF/STFU are fine, NEVER use words like nigger and other racist words as well as sex terms, not only does it make you a pathetic loser, its morally wrong.
Tip 2
Dont use "leet language" or "gamer language".
Words like noob, or hax0r, once again is pathetic, really good gamers dont use the terms AT ALL, plz show everyone some respect, even if they give you none in return, Terms like "owned" and "pwned" are acceptable if it is a certain situation, like getting sniped in the head or shot point blank by a shotgun.
Tip 3
Never accuse anyone of being a botter.
I cant stress this enough, most people that do this are mostly the weaker players that are jealous of your talents, if you think they are botting, then just silently kick the tar out of them using good ol skillz, theirs nothing more satisfying then seeing a botter get fustrated at the fact that youre STILL winning.
Tip 4
Use whatever weapon you want.
Another big one, the developers put certain weapons in for a reason, for you to USE THEM, remember that everyone has diffrent preferences when it comes to weapons, some like close ranged, some like long range, and some like both, and some like heavy weapons, it angers me to no end when someone rants about you being a "heavy noob" BECAUSE YOU KILLED THE VEICHLE THEYRE DRIVING, ISNT THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE ROCKET LAUNCHER? So go ahead and use that RL or BRG if you want to, even against non veichle enemies.
I hope that this guide is taken into consideration by many gamers here, and if you have any other usefull tips, plz post them, and the really good ones ill post in this guide
FRain
October 6th, 2007, 04:57 PM
Sex terms are fun though, :downs:
Huero
October 6th, 2007, 04:58 PM
About #3; when they constantly have a fix on your head, there's no chance.
m13120
October 6th, 2007, 04:58 PM
A good attempt at trying to make the gaming world of halo a better place, but still useless.
Saying things like "owned" or "pwned" can actually be considered provacative language, since whenever I see people say it in a game, the people they "pwned/owned" just start cussing right back at them. And to be honest, there is nothing wrong with using "gamer language or leet language" as you say. The best players I've seen play use it all the time, nothing wrong with it. The reason people call others rocket noobs etc, is when they constantly use them over and over, and not only for vehicles. Even I use it now and then to take out vehicles, but I rarely ever use a rocket to kill a pedestrian, that is what is "noobish." Like you said, weapons are there for a reason, but people misuse them all the time, and all we can do is deal with it.
FRain
October 6th, 2007, 05:00 PM
#3 is not at all retarted. Just don't claim botting w/o proof. I hardly ever get frustrated with botters because I know they're not.
Huero
October 6th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Well gee, I don't think that's what he said, is it? I'm arguing his point, not yours.
FRain
October 6th, 2007, 05:15 PM
Well gee, I don't think I was ever talking to you.
m13120
October 6th, 2007, 05:20 PM
I hope you weren't talking to me either because I was only replying to the topic starter.
Sever
October 6th, 2007, 05:37 PM
I have actually singlehandedly destroyed a botter using effective and innovative tactics. Yes, he was actually botting, and no, he didn't get that manny kills. Its just pathetic to cheat, yet its humiliating to cheat and LOSE. Every skilled player should go one-on-one with a botter to improve their skills.
jedimas4
October 6th, 2007, 06:16 PM
to m13120: what i meant was that if you like to use RLs all the time, then thats okay, as i said, everyone has prefrences, if you dont like it, then find a good counter measure against him, simple as that,i dont know what good players youre talking about, I have never seen any pro or good gamer use those terms, this is just what ive seen, besides, we should all try to be above the petty flaming wars
oh, and if you feel humiliated by a pwnage, dont cuss then, its a mental thing moer than anything, cant people just try to use some restraint
based on my experiences, the one or two botters i HAVE encounterd i DESTROYED, my point is that most botters are newbies that want to cheat because they have no skills
Con
October 6th, 2007, 06:36 PM
Good start, but keep going. You need to be a little more informed first before writing these things; this seems more like a hopeless rant to me than a helpful guide. Also, this probably isn't the best place to post this. The points you're making are VERY obvious. Most people here are above that juvenile sort of crap. Try Halomaps.
Rosco
October 6th, 2007, 06:38 PM
that guide is lieing, stop it
m13120
October 6th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Nice triple post there. Even though countering a RL is easy, use a long range weapon weapon, easy, it does get a tad annoying, but you say as if it's okay. If I ever see you in a server, I'm sure to use heavy weapons on you everytime, and I hope I don't hear one complaint. You act as if all pro players are actually mature, maybe you should look at the bigger picture. Flame wars? How can you even call an argument on Halo a flame war? People talking shit in games is a thing that has lasted for years, and will continue and most likely never stop. If someone gets owned by a mature person, I think that person should just keep quiet and keep playing, but like I said before, if you encounter a pro who has a big mouth and is full of it, nothing wrong with telling him to shut the fuck up. I find it impossibly to "destroy" a botter, if you can beat a botter just by playing them regularly, then they probably aren't even botting because I have experienced bots first hand (people using them against me), like huerosam said, how can you kill someone that will get a headshot on you in almost half a second? If you and a botter are engaged in a fight, you have almost no chance of winning, you will be TRYING to hit them, and the botter WILL be getting headshots on you, so like I said, if you "destroyed" any, they probably weren't even botting in the first place, you just thought they were because of some headshots.
In any case, this guide may work, but only if you could enforce some rules or something, if you can't, you should give up now because this guide will not affect the way of gaming.
Sel
October 6th, 2007, 06:43 PM
This guide should be called 'how to be a conformist bitch'
Con
October 6th, 2007, 06:50 PM
Or, "how not to write a guide"
TPE
October 6th, 2007, 08:45 PM
I don't even talk in HPC/CE anymore. I like how one of CAL's rules is no talking.
jedimas4
October 6th, 2007, 09:30 PM
oh trust me, i have NEVER complained about someone constantly using the RL, nor have ever accused anyone, plus, this isnt a rant, have you EVER been on any of the snowgrove servers, its like im at elementry school all over again, now with added sex terms and cursing, plus, you do realize botters have to take down your sheild first, with the exception of the SR, i was using the term "destroy" as simply a an over the top word, dont take it seriously, and the "pro" that is big mouthed probably isnt a pro, also, botter actually dont appear very often even in CE matches
instead of flaming me, how about actually DOING some of the things on this guide, ive followed this guide to the letter ever since i bought this game, it doesnt kill ya to try to be mature for once, thnks alot for atacking me instead of improving the situation.
Pooky
October 6th, 2007, 10:05 PM
Half the fun of playing online games is flinging insults back and forth :|
m13120
October 6th, 2007, 10:17 PM
You can stop whenever. This so called 'guide' is useless to anyone, why? Because no one will follow it. No one cares about following tips when they can have the time of their lives cussing out people. The reason that me and no one else is going to contribute to this is because it will never work. Plain and simple. Be realistic, do you really think you can make a difference?
Neuro Guro
October 6th, 2007, 11:27 PM
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LlamaMaster
October 6th, 2007, 11:59 PM
Thats funny every time! ^_^
SGWraith
October 7th, 2007, 12:03 AM
Like you said, weapons are there for a reason, but people misuse them all the time, and all we can do is deal with it.
Misuse a weapon meant to kill people by killing with it? :lol:
Seriously though, if a weapon is there it is meant to be used - even if its a rocket launcher. If someone is constantly doing the same thing, then learning to deal with it is the only way; adapt, kill him when he goes for ammo, prevent him from getting there, camp the RL spawn, make sure a teammate always grabs it, etc.
Does it take much skill to kill with an RL? In most cases no, but if you can't adapt or change your playing style to suite the situation at hand, then you're not much of a player and you can expect to keep losing to the same things. If it seems "overpowered" you either; 1, Have deficient skills to counter it, or 2, its a gameplay oversight of bungie and/or the map designer.
As for the guide, its a good idea but the random pubber doesn't care about sportsmanship because of the anonomity of the internet. Therefore the only reliable solution is an active admin who can kick/ban repeat offenders.
DaneO'Roo
October 7th, 2007, 12:04 AM
ROFL NEURO.
I swear I'm glad I don't know anyone that gay in real life.
Con
October 7th, 2007, 01:34 AM
this isnt a rant,
k
have you EVER been on any of the snowgrove servers,
yes
its like im at elementry school all over again,
i no rite
now with added sex terms and cursing, plus, you do realize botters have to take down your sheild first,
no wai
with the exception of the SR, i was using the term "destroy" as simply a an over the top word, dont take it seriously, and the "pro" that is big mouthed probably isnt a pro, also, botter actually dont appear very often even in CE matches
???
instead of flaming me, how about actually DOING some of the things on this guide, ive followed this guide to the letter ever since i bought this game, it doesnt kill ya to try to be mature for once, thnks alot for atacking me instead of improving the situation.
guys how dare you criticize my guide, you must not be following it then :maddowns:
Mr Buckshot
October 7th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Jedimas, I acknowledge that you're trying to help, but you have not succeeded. It may be in your best interest to lock this thread.
The things you stated in your guide can make things a bit more peaceful, yes, but they will not always work, especially in clan servers. And a lot of us don't mean what we say when we insult those who killed us.
I would not consider what you wrote to be a real guide. It's more like a bushido that people follow only in a certain Halo clan.
Con
October 7th, 2007, 01:42 AM
It's not likely that you're going to change those morons anyway, just ignore them or own them with logic and common sense until they shut up.
Jay2645
October 7th, 2007, 01:47 AM
Or own them with a counter for their weapon:
Rocket Launcher---Sniper Rifle
Vehicle------------Rocket Launcher
Sniper Rifle--------Assassination
Fuel Rod Gun------Seriously, who noobs with the Fuel Rod?
Flamer------------Any weapon that is not close range
Shotgun----------"Any weapon that isn't close range"
SnaFuBAR
October 7th, 2007, 02:03 AM
worst. guide. ever.
Tarzan
October 7th, 2007, 02:03 AM
Does this mean no more victory humps?
kenney001
October 7th, 2007, 03:40 AM
whats even more fun is getting a sightjacked fraps video of a botter getting his ass handed to him by skilled players, then posting it on something like youtube and sending him the link.
or being accused of botting and then them saying "you were jumping and locking on" when they sightjacked you, and you werent botting at all.....
Seriously though, I play Snow Grove with botters, and I still kick their ass's. Just crouch, and use a sniper to pop them while they are trying to figure out why they cant hit you......
p0lar_bear
October 7th, 2007, 05:16 AM
Why bother writing this guide? The latest generation of players are all assdribbling kids with no respect for anything whatsoever. I was just recently in a Yoyorast server with a bunch of people who were attempting to hijack the server with secret room "parties" with no admin backing. I just repeatedly killed them until they got the hint.
Zer0
October 7th, 2007, 12:41 PM
well if anyone on CE would read it(aside from those of us who already have) they might not be assdribbling kids, but then again I could be wrong.
Patrickssj6
October 7th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Tip 5
Cheat on Coldsnap whenever you can.
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SnaFuBAR
October 7th, 2007, 01:18 PM
well if anyone on CE would read it(aside from those of us who already have) they might not be assdribbling kids, but then again I could be wrong.
you're wrong.
Archon23
October 7th, 2007, 01:25 PM
Its not like the 12 year olds of this day would know what respect means. The whole assdribbling even shows up in the freshman and sophomore years in my school now.
Also why post the guide here? I mean most of the regulars here know how to behave in Halo without looking like a total dumbass.
FRain
October 7th, 2007, 01:33 PM
If you were going to post this at ALL you shouldn'tve posted it here. See, H2V has a community of respectful, mature kids and adults. Post this on Halomaps, Halomods or some other forum that doesn't get alot of attention or has immature little kiddies running around in it.
Pooky
October 7th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Seriously, who noobs with the Fuel Rod?
Anyone who wants to get a heap of kills with little to no effort?
Archon23
October 7th, 2007, 02:30 PM
Theres a reason we call it a failrod :downs:
PenGuin1362
October 7th, 2007, 03:27 PM
How to be a Good Christian
Tip 1: Kill yourself
Tip 2:???
Tip 3: Profit
ftfy
jedimas4
October 7th, 2007, 06:14 PM
why did i make this guide you ask? cause i feel like it needs to be said, that is all, im going to continue pushing this, even if it doesnt change much and even if no one thinks i can, if it changes even only a small group of people then ive accomplished my objective here, i probably will lock this soon though due to the amount of negative comments on this topic
Archon23
October 7th, 2007, 06:19 PM
Like I said don't post it here. Post this on a forum with tons of idiots running around like halomaps or halomods.
Like I said we know how not to look like complete assholes, dumbasses, retards, etc.
Even then your not going to change all too much. The PC community is still rather large and unfortunately filled with some of the worst retards ever. Not saying all of them but some of the worst. They'll just tell you to fuck off (Albeit more ruder and with more swears) while they kill some other guy with a rocket. Its a pity I'm not exaggerating here.......
Seriously Maturity and Respect flew out the window ounce 8 year olds picked up the mic and controller.
Chromide
October 7th, 2007, 06:36 PM
I personally found this to be exactly how I myself would like to see everyone play.....putting it out there is the first step to seeing it actually happen.....+rep
Like I said don't post it here. Post this on a forum with tons of idiots running around like halomaps or halomods.
Like I said we know how not to look like complete assholes, dumbasses, retards, etc.
Even then your not going to change all too much. The PC community is still rather large and unfortunately filled with some of the worst retards ever. Not saying all of them but some of the worst. They'll just tell you to fuck off (Albeit more ruder and with more swears) while they kill some other guy with a rocket. Its a pity I'm not exaggerating here.......
Seriously Maturity and Respect flew out the window ounce 8 year olds picked up the mic and controller.
While I agree that the community here at h2vista is mature enough to know all of this already that isn't to say that some "little kid" (seeing as some of the most immature people i have ever met were over the age of 20) isn't browsing these forums and seeing that they are acting like a dick head and everyone knows it.
Sel
October 7th, 2007, 08:35 PM
why did i make this guide you ask? cause i feel like it needs to be said, that is all, im going to continue pushing this, even if it doesnt change much and even if no one thinks i can, if it changes even only a small group of people then ive accomplished my objective here, i probably will lock this soon though due to the amount of negative comments on this topic
Please stop spreading your homosexuality over the internet, my bandwidth has better uses than reading your shit.
Gamerkd16
October 7th, 2007, 08:45 PM
why did i make this guide you ask? cause i feel like it needs to be said, that is all, im going to continue pushing this, even if it doesnt change much and even if no one thinks i can, if it changes even only a small group of people then ive accomplished my objective here, i probably will lock this soon though due to the amount of negative comments on this topic
You also aren't taken very seriously when you have spelling and grammar errors in your guide. It's "please", not "plz".:eyesroll:
m13120
October 7th, 2007, 09:03 PM
Besides, making a noob shut up after screaming his head at you by owning him so bad is the kind of satisfaction that most of us need. Think about it, if games were clean, would they be fun? IMO, they would be boring. The reason some of us play is because of those noobs.
Archon23
October 7th, 2007, 10:23 PM
I mean its so fun when the final score is:
Me- 10
Him- -2
(Insult and Almost Scorewise)
Its so satisfying, its also the reason I don't ask the person to outright kick the noob, just to see if I can force him to leave. :downs:
m13120
October 7th, 2007, 10:29 PM
I mean its so fun when the final score is:
Me- 10
Him- -2
(Insult and Almost Scorewise)
Its so satisfying, its also the reason I don't ask the person to outright kick the noob, just to see if I can force him to leave. :downs:
The exact satisfaction I mentioned, and the reason WHY we need immature noobs, and a balance between mature and immature :haw:
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