ATTN: We liek mudkips

[CtrlAltDestroy]

As some of you may already know, we (Zteam; Myself, Choking Victim, and ShadowSpartan) have been working on a campaign mod (how original ;p). The project actually started back around February of 2005, well before even CMT's SPv1 was even in concept. It began to progress slowly at a first, starting with the content (which most of you have already gotten a taste of with out public beta releases in April of 2007). The actual campaign modification portion didn't start until a couple of months ago. Since then, we've made some considerable progress:

Halo (a30):
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a30.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a302.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a303.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a304.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a305.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a306.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a307.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a308.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a309.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a3010.jpg

Props to Choking Victim for doing pretty much all the cosmetic changes that you can see.

The Silent Cartographer (b30):
You can't have it now. ;p

A great advancement in our work and soon the entire Halo CE community was the "figuring-outing" of script extraction by CV and Shadow. With this, we were able to break most of the barriers we have encountered previously in our possibilities of adding in any real cool stuff.

*cough (http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/scarab.jpg) cough (http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/poacrash.jpg)*


So, anyways... with our SP progressing, we have also been working on MP.

Yeah, we heard you; PB3.

Among the many maps we're making, these are the one's we're chosing for PB3:

Containment:
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/elite_red.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/elite_orange.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/elite_br.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/elite_mag.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/elite_carbine.jpg

(we might release a super special edition of some maps with elites :d)

Relic:
No pics for you either. D:<

... and of course, Coagulation and Sanctuary.

Our content has and is currently undergoing some heavy changes, namely our weapons.

Beam rifle:
ViZbCKyGla8

Everything else:
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/09-24-07/carbine_idle.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/09-24-07/carbine_empty.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/09-24-07/carbine_rel.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/09-24-07/rl_fire.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/09-24-07/bshot_fire.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-04-07/ppistol_idle.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-04-07/ppistol_oh.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-13-07/sbeam_fire.jpg

Most are still pending an overhaul.

...

Oh, also, some pretty skies that I converted that don't fit anywhere else in the update but I want to show them anyways. <_<

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/ascension_sky.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/highcharity_sky1.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/highcharity_sky2.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/highcharity_sky3.jpg
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/zanzibar_sky.jpg

they might show up somewhere...

... so yeah. We're NOT dead. D: Expect a PB3 soon (not saying how soon ;p) and our SP shortly (read: much longer) after. That concludes our update that I couldn't bother putting any effort into. <3


Off to bed, 'night.

[StankBacon]

http://hiv.h2vista.net/hivshack/images/843440270917403_1ae736f6c5.jpg



also, looks nice :D

[Haloking365]

Wow, very nice work. But I dont like the repeated repeated textures textures thing goin on in a30, namely the gound textures. And one other thing. Can someone please kill that Coag map? Please? The textures set a really ugly mood. Everything looks like its washed out and browned. :blech:

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Oh, also, you can kill the birds. ;p They explode in a bloody mess too.

[UrKungFuSux]

=] Very nice job.

[SnaFuBAR]

Z team gets my Halo2 them mp maps :D (pariah and advent) as well as my custom elite fp arms/hands.

[HDoan]

Have my babies please KThxBai

[Botolf]

:awesome:


Looks, very, very nice!

[termin8or123]

Kick ass!!!!! I'm liking the animations! :D

[Rob Oplawar]

Lookin pretty good. Although I have to admit I got my hopes up when I read campaign mod, cause I misinterpreted that as meaning a bit of competition for BCE. Nothing like competition to spur you on, eh? Speaking of, /newthread

[Tweek]

wow, i have to admit, that looks pretty darn good.
more than i'd have expected from you lot.

[Archon23]

Is that a hopefully less buggy and better working scarab I see there? If its an enemy. well.......FUCK YES

[Choking Victim]

Wow, very nice work. But I dont like the repeated repeated textures textures thing goin on in a30, namely the gound textures. And one other thing. Can someone please kill that Coag map? Please? The textures set a really ugly mood. Everything looks like its washed out and browned. :blech:
those repeating textures are really unnoticable when your on the ground playing, but it it becomes much of a problem, ill try and fix it.

[DaneO'Roo]

That grass texture looks absolutely fucking fail. Other than that, nice work.

[Choking Victim]

don't repeating textures eat FPS?

also, where the fuck would there be an area large enough to handle a scarab fight in H1? mb where you get the last banshee at the end of 2 betrayals, but I can't think of anywhere else O_o

also, if you have the POA fly over like In amber clad or regret's ship in H2, that'd be fucking epic :O!!

Can we expect H2 style lock-on rockets?
me and l33t had a method of scripting it so if your looking at an occupied vehicle you can lock on, but if your looking at a biped it wont lock on. idk if we're still doing it , but most likely.

[Choking Victim]

I meant that as well as having to physically lock on (not just looking at the vehicle, but holding down the trigger.)

actually, the PP kinda does that so it shouldn't be that hard right?
l33t accomplished that a long time ago, and included the moving reticule and beeping sounds and whatnot.

[FRain]

God damnit, CAD, why do you ALWAYS have to post pics? Now I need a bucket.

[FRain]

No, I need a bucket because I creamed. D:

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Is that a hopefully less buggy and better working scarab I see there? If its an enemy. well.......FUCK YES

100% scripted. None of that kill-the-driver-then-you-can-use-it bullshit.

[ICEE]

wow those textures are gorgeous. the animations are pro as usual, and OMFGBIRDS!! thats awesome

edit: also, why does everything i want show up on this forum?(elite hands ftw)

[DaneO'Roo]

I'm still gagging at that "grass" texture. A30 otherwise looks REALLY nice

[Stealth]

Grass looks odd, but other then that, A30 looks better that way, it looks like no one has been there in a very long time.

[StankBacon]

forget about coag for fucks sake...

horrible map, and there are what... like 10 versions out already?

destroy it and release something else.

[Haloking365]

forget about coag for fucks sake...

horrible map, and there are what... like 10 versions out already?

destroy it and release something else.
FINALLY someone agrees with me. Also, the new maps look like sex. There is boarding aswell?

[Patrickssj6]

Fugly :haw:

Love the sky. :awesome:

[Choking Victim]

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/newgrass.jpg

better or worse? i just got rid of the darker places that made it noticably tiled.

[Dole]

I meant that as well as having to physically lock on (not just looking at the vehicle, but holding down the trigger.)

actually, the PP kinda does that so it shouldn't be that hard right?
Arf. (http://media.putfile.com/RocketAndSwordIngame)

[Stealth]

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/newgrass.jpg

better or worse? i just got rid of the darker places that made it noticably tiled.
dude, if it wasn't for the fact that it's in that window, I'd think you took a pic of some grass out side.

[Hotrod]

Damn, this mod is looking good. I've only been following it's progress since when, the beginning? I can't wait to see this be finished, especially the SP. What would you say the &#37; of the mod is done? Anyways, keep up the good work!

[NeiaG]

wow thats amazing. especially the characters and scarab. i so wanna fight that scarab. keep it up.

[PenGuin1362]

l33t you suck. you fail at life, start over.
<3 you guys

[Inferno]

you got the image name wrong it should say "sex.png" not "a30.png".

[Sever]

wow thats amazing. especially the characters and scarab. i so wanna fight that scarab. keep it up.

WHERE, might I ask, is this scarab that you speak of? I for one fail to see any massive four-legged Covenant mechanical walkers anywhere in any of the presented pictures.

[teh lag]

WHERE, might I ask, is this scarab that you speak of? I for one fail to see any massive four-legged Covenant mechanical walkers anywhere in any of the presented pictures.




*cough (http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/scarab.jpg)



Ahem.

Also, regarding the second "cough..."

(http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/poacrash.jpg)

Why use that model when there's the h1 POA BSP you can use? :raise:
Or is not ripping against the law for your team :v

[DaneO'Roo]

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/newgrass.jpg

better or worse? i just got rid of the darker places that made it noticably tiled.

Thats not the huge problem with it. The huge problem is this:

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a302.jpg

It doesn't look anything like grass. It looks like a green and dark green render clouds + sponge filter that got pixelated. It really is not a good texture at all.

It would make a nice rock detail map. For a main grass diffuse? You have to be joking.

[Jay2645]

Ahem.

Also, regarding the second "cough..."

(http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/poacrash.jpg)

Why use that model when there's the h1 POA BSP you can use? :raise:
Or is not ripping against the law for your team :v
Please note the word "BSP". (Actually, BSP is 3 words, Binary Space Partitioning, but whatever.) BSP=Many Polies. Many Polies=OMFG MY FRAMERATE!
Anyway, this looks better then SPV2! Been in production longer, so I guess I should expect it to look better.
New grass=WIN, as long as you do what D4NO suggested.
Containment=WIN.
Coag=PHAIL.

So the new campaign is coming out soon (Read: A LOOOONG time from now)? Like, how soon? By my birthday (1 week from tomorrow) soon? (Hopefully, but not gonna happen) Or by Christmas soon?

Oh, and use the Halo 3 Scarab model (If you can rip H3 yet, I think you can, I saw it somewhere). The Halo 2 one looks like a Basket. With legs.

[NeiaG]

lol yeah. liked the body not the legs

[teh lag]

Please note the word "BSP". (Actually, BSP is 3 words, Binary Space Partitioning, but whatever.) BSP=Many Polies. Many Polies=OMFG MY FRAMERATE!


I was referring to using the base geometry from Halo 1, even if it ends up depolied. Unless I'm mistaken, that model is from Halo 2 cinematics. I perfectly understand issues of framerate.

[Jay2645]

I was referring to using the base geometry from Halo 1, even if it ends up depolied. Unless I'm mistaken, that model is from Halo 2 cinematics. I perfectly understand issues of framerate.
You see, one of the problems with converting H1 BSPs for use is that they usually wind up royally screwed in Max.
Meh, just keep that version of the POA, you'll only see it up-close once the entire time, in a cutscene.

[teh lag]

You see, one of the problems with converting H1 BSPs for use is that they usually wind up royally screwed in Max.
Meh, just keep that version of the POA, you'll only see it up-close once the entire time, in a cutscene.

No, not really. I've never had any problems importing BSP models for later use - you must be doing something wrong. The only issues that come up when I recompile are collision/portal-related, which are irrelivant when making a .gbxmodel.

Please get your facts straight :)

[Sever]

That Scarab (thanks lag for bringing the link to my attention!) needs to be scaled down a lot to even be feasible at that location.

[TeeKup]

*cough (http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/scarab.jpg) :X


(http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/poacrash.jpg)cough (http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/poacrash.jpg)* NUH UH!!!! Oh damn that will look kickass when its done.

[Archon23]

Hmmm "poacrash"

I DETECT EPIC. :awesome:

[TeeKup]

Hmmm "poacrash"

I DETECT EPIC. :awesome:

The Epic sensors are off the chart. In halo 3 the flood cruiser and High Charity crashing was epic, however thats halo 3. If done in CE, it would surpass those.

[ICEE]

epictacular

[Choking Victim]

Dano, its really the only thing that truly fits the atmosphere, it's used in delta halo as a mossy kind of jungle look. I agree it doesn't look like grass though, and ill try a few other looks and see how it comes out.

EDIT:
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a30newestgrass.jpg
happy, slappy?

[DaneO'Roo]

yes, thats much better, IMO.

[GREYL]

well do you guys need some testers ?

[Sever]

Looks like improved H1 grass to me. Which is a great thing.

EDIT: ^ NO THEY DON'T!

[ShadowSpartan]

well do you guys need some testers ?
No, not really.

[dashiznit47]

OMG CANT WAIT THIS IS AWESOME!!!

[Masterz1337]

They probably do need testers.

But you won't be one.

[NeiaG]

so when is this expected to be done? or has the date already been posted?

[GREYL]

They probably do need teters.

But you won't be one.

lol no need to get cruel a simple no thx is ok xD


oh and are u ging to release any map soon ? ( soon=this 2 weeks)?:lol:

[Masterz1337]

I was.

















Then you posted and changed my mind.

[Syuusuke]

I saw the word "testers"... I was interested until Masterz said teters...

so when is this expected to be done? or has the date already been posted?

Well, date hasn't been posted, so when will it be done? Whenever they can get it finished, I'll approximate between next week and next year or two. =D

[NeiaG]

.......whoah......well how many levels are done?

EDIT: what about the flood and hunters? will they be halo 2 style?

[ICEE]

the date things are released usually is set when things are almost done. since he didnt say he was almost done... probably no release date yet.


http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-16-07/a302.jpg


and is it just me or does this elite look particularly lean?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Oh, I also figured that this should be settled:


There is no "fourth billboard" on Sanctuary
There is no "gate" on Sanctuary


/spoilsport

[Vernancelet]

Nice, Im surpised how you did this very well.

[GREYL]

Nice, Im surpised how you did this very well.
well i know that masterzs already told me but i wanted to ask or and hear it from u cad taht i cant test pls dont be mad im jsut asking

[Archon23]

Well you know theres a reason its called a public beta.........

[DaneO'Roo]

beta kthx :protarget:

[SnaFuBAR]

God DAMNIT, Greyl, stop posting like that! -repp'd.

[SuperSonic]

So when do you guess this will be released? Ooo, just cant wait for target practise on birds :p
So what plans for weapons in SP?
Sorry for mentioning energy swords in the CMT tags, I still regret not having read the stickies:(
So will there be stuff like beam rifles, covie carbines, etc Halo2 weapons in SP? Great Phantom, though the Scarab looks a bit too thin.

[DaneO'Roo]

lol ross, no it's not. It's literally copying one of the channels from the extracted normal map, copying it as a layer on the diffuse texture, and setting overlay blend to fakebump it, then going in with burn and dodge tool to make highlights and shadows to unfail the bitmap, then copying the guns specular map from the alpha of the diffuse texture as a new RGB bitmap then overlaying a greyscaled of the diffuse texture onto that, then overlaying the same normal map channel used earlier ontop of that, and making it coloured pink/purple and colouring things green and shit for glow and crap accordingly. The only people who know the amount of effort put into painting a model from scratch are the ones who've done it.

It's seriously like 10 minutes work in my eyes. Does look good though.

[Tweek]

lol ross, no it's not. It's literally copying one of the channels from the extracted normal map, copying it as a layer on the diffuse texture, and setting overlay blend to fakebump it, then going in with burn and dodge tool to make highlights and shadows to unfail the bitmap, then copying the guns specular map from the alpha of the diffuse texture as a new RGB bitmap then overlaying a greyscaled of the diffuse texture onto that, then overlaying the same normal map channel used earlier ontop of that, and making it coloured pink/purple and colouring things green and shit for glow and crap accordingly. The only people who know the amount of effort put into painting a model from scratch are the ones who've done it.

It's seriously like 10 minutes work in my eyes. Does look good though.

yes.

but rossum does have a point.
just ripping gives you total crap.
it takes work to make it look decent.

[Masterz1337]

Not quite.

Ripping alone results in shit. The amount of work they've had to do to get them looking that good is almost comparable to just making it from scratch.
Not at all, there's no real skill in "sexifing" H2 textures. Personally, I think all the shaders but the environments looks like :-\, but thats what happens when you use ripped content. What makes Zteam so impresive is the sheer amount scripts and animations to me.

[MNC]

My jaw dropped so hard it hurts.

L33T, ShadowSpartan and ChokingVictim; you guys are awesome. It looks great, and even though I wanted to make a long ass post of how awesome it is, I can't, but I can say it is awesome. Fuck :o

Also, that Phantom is so sexy, it gives Jessica Alba a run for her money... No wait it doesn't, nothing beats Jessica :v

Pics do alot of justice, but do we have a chance to see it in motion, other than the Beam Rifle?

[ICEE]

i agree with that. id like to see other weapons in action, since the beam rifle is my least favorite weapon in h2. idk its model is just unattractive, impractical for a rifle. plus, why have a purple gun? anyways...

[FRain]

i agree with that. id like to see other weapons in action, since the beam rifle is my least favorite weapon in h2. idk its model is just unattractive, impractical for a rifle. plus, why have a purple gun? anyways...


Of course it's impractical for a rifle, because it's supposed to be a sniper rifle >_>

[Lateksi]

...And covies like purple.

[ShadowSpartan]

Could be something to do with the fact that the metal predominantly used by the Covenant is purple... then again, I'm just guessing.

:v
Actually if you watch the remastered Halo cutscenes commentary on the legendary disc, you will hear that the main reason all the stuff is purple is because Jason Jones' favorite color is purple.

[Love De Lux]

Very nice :)

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/ <-- Ahaha :awesome:

[Kiwibird]

This is the first time I've ever seen Halo 2 content look like Halo 2 content on Halo CE. Excellent job.

[Choking Victim]

Very nice :)

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/ <-- Ahaha :awesome:
some eye candy for you smarties trying to access our files :p

[Jay2645]

some eye candy for you smarties trying to access our files :p
Some good eye candy at that.
Any more? :p

[ICEE]

Of course it's impractical for a rifle, because it's supposed to be a sniper rifle >_>

DOY a sniper rifle IS a rifle. not all rifle's are fully automatic guns with massive clips. rifle= gun with long barrel(other than shotguns) and a sniper has a damn long barrel

what i mean is, the "barrel" looks like a spout or the end of a hose, and is waaaay to long in comparison to the handle, which is extremely short, with little to no stock. also, if it shoots particles, wouldnt there be no recoil? which could account for the lack of a stock, but the gun sure seems to recoil to me. in any case its ugly



Could be something to do with the fact that the metal predominantly used by the Covenant is purple... then again, I'm just guessing.





plasma rifle = blue
plasma pistol = gray/green
energy sword handle = silver/black
Frc= orange/silver
covie cruiser= gray/pink
carbine= purple
beam rifle= purple
armors= blue, red, green, orange, white, black

doesnt seem like purple dominates to me... but then again, im partially colorblind. people say ghosts and wraiths are purple, but they look blue to me.:rolleyes: i guess this means that beam rifles are made of something different and unusual?

[FRain]

DOY a sniper rifle IS a rifle. not all rifle's are fully automatic guns with massive clips. rifle= gun with long barrel(other than shotguns) and a sniper has a damn long barrel. If it has a damn long barel it makes it damn accurate (which it is)

what i mean is, the "barrel" looks like a spout or the end of a hose, k and is waaaay to long in comparison no to the handle, which is extremely short, with little to no stock. k also, if it shoots particles, wouldnt there be no recoil? no which could account for the lack of a stock, but the gun sure seems to recoil to me. in any case its ugly no.





plasma rifle = blue
plasma pistol = gray/green
energy sword handle = silver/black
Frc= orange/silver
covie cruiser= gray/pink
carbine= purple
beam rifle= purple
armors= blue, red, green, orange, white, black
interiors of all of the walls of the covenant cruiser = purple

doesnt seem like purple dominates to me... but then again, im partially colorblind. k people say ghosts and wraiths are purple, but they look blue to me.:rolleyes: wraiths are blue, ghosts are purple. i guess this means that beam rifles are made of something different and unusual? no


FTFY

[Sever]

Its not a Human weapon, so stop comparing it to Human weapons.

[Con]

That first picture is so beautiful, it's hard to describe. Amazing work Zteam!

[ICEE]

FTFY

USE ENGLISH DAMMIT. i dont know what ftfy means, and how would you know what theyre made of ?

[Con]

No, I need a bucket because I creamed. D:
Did you mean: petri dish (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=K7L&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=petri+dish&spell=1)
:awesome:

[FRain]

:awesome:

[Roostervier]

USE ENGLISH DAMMIT. i dont know what ftfy means, and how would you know what theyre made of ?1) FTFY means fixed that for you. 2)We could ask you the same question, so that wasn't very smart to ask. <_<

Also, it looks awesome (especially with better grass detail maps). :awesome:

[Anton]

Looks great guys, keep it going ;]

[Love De Lux]

some eye candy for you smarties trying to access our files :p

Elisha Cuthbert ? :-3

Also... where are gone Backwash, Tombstone, Gemini and Terminal ? I recall leet telling me that he fixed the Backwash's problem by putting ladders. :p

[ShadowSpartan]

Elisha Cuthbert ? :-3

Also... where are gone Backwash, Tombstone, Gemini and Terminal ? I recall leet telling me that he fixed the Backwash's problem by putting ladders. :p
Of course Elisha Cuthbert :p. What Backwash problem are you talking about?

[Apoc4lypse]

Z team gets my Halo2 them mp maps :D (pariah and advent) as well as my custom elite fp arms/hands.

nice, mb we will get to play on them XD lol j/k...

I still remember beta-ing your maps with like 4 people or so in early builds, good times, although most the builds I made sucked :lol: I'm so lazy when it comes to light maps and population, its so boring XD

anyway... that High Charity Sky conversion gives me action in the pants... :D

I love that freaking sky, so sexay lol

Nice work guys, mb i'll start playing CE again for it haha..

My computer has been in disarray for a while, I tried to reformat it 2 times, each time failed because service pack 2 keeps fucking up my computer (incompatible with my bios which is from like 2002, at least thats my hypothesis) and I have yet to do a reformat without doing a service pack 2 install since then, I'm going to have to find time to do it soon though.

just thought u all shud know, because I'm so amazing, rite :eyesroll: /sarcasm

[ODX]

Hurry for FP arms!
<Jumps for joy>
:(
I hit my hand on the ceiling ...

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

yeah i know this is a lil late but,
the left hand on the sword needs to be bigger
GET HIGHER RESO TEXTURES!
and the sentiniel anims are a lil off of normal set, othere than that its fine
GJ on the Beam Rifle anims, they're great!, just bring it just a lil closer to camera

[ShadowSpartan]

yeah i know this is a lil late but,
the left hand on the sword needs to be bigger
GET HIGHER RESO TEXTURES!
and the sentiniel anims are a lil off of normal set, othere than that its fine
GJ on the Beam Rifle anims, they're great!, just bring it just a lil closer to camera
Please learn to type, or don't post in this topic. As for getting higher res textures, they are taken directly from Halo 2. They are the same as what is in the game and you can't get any higher res than that.

[Ki11a_FTW]

2048x2048 textured ftw :awesome:

[Huero]

This looks amazing, I would totally rep you if it wasn't nulled

Although, the cliffs would look a lot better if there were a transitioning texture...

[ICEE]

yeah i know this is a lil late but,
the left hand on the sword needs to be bigger
GET HIGHER RESO TEXTURES!
and the sentiniel anims are a lil off of normal set, othere than that its fine
GJ on the Beam Rifle anims, they're great!, just bring it just a lil closer to camera


where are you seeing FP sword anims?

[Love De Lux]

Of course Elisha Cuthbert :p. What Backwash problem are you talking about?

Leet had trouble with getting all the gravity lifts to work :confused2:

[DaneO'Roo]

They are the same as what is in the game and you can't get any higher res than that.

And that is what Is limiting the mod. Halo 2s diffuse textures are often lower res because of the added bump maps make up for it. You guys really should repaint them. It's not that hard since the bitmaps are already there, you just.....paint over them.

[ODX]

I don't want my sukish computer (Which can run the ZMT MP maps still)
to be slower than it is when I hit an elite in CMT and my framerate gets murdered...

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

where are you seeing FP sword anims?

from sanctuary pb2 DUH
and so far, im thinking that leet didnt change any of the anims seeing that there is sitll the original anim he made for the sword

[Choking Victim]

from sanctuary pb2 DUH
and so far, im thinking that leet didnt change any of the anims seeing that there is sitll the original anim he made for the sword

please read the original post before jumping to conclusions.


Our content has and is currently undergoing some heavy changes, namely our weapons.

thank you

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

please read the original post before jumping to conclusions.



thank you

it didnt say anything about the sword
but i hope it does :D
i guess i didnt see that ... or i didnt connect it to the sword thought..

[ICEE]

dude, you comment on the sword which is nowhere even on this thread? of course its been considered. an animator is NEVER satisfied with his own work, im sure most weapons will probably be changed...

[nooBBooze]

Epic work for a three-man team. allow me one question pls: did you guys dismiss the AR?

[ICEE]

probably, i think they only do halo 2 weapons. seems a little out of date to me but then again, this is halo 1 we're talking about. if your going to mod h1 your pretty much as out of date as it gets. unless your modding pacman or something.

[FRain]

lolwut?


http://www.youtube.com/user/CtrlAltDestr0y

(everything except SL)

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Epic work for a three-man team. allow me one question pls: did you guys dismiss the AR?

Our first and second issue (and soon third) MP maps were H2-content only; our SP won't be limited to just H2 content (although it is the majority). In fact, there's still tons we haven't showed to the public yet.

[supersniper]

Now why didn't you guys think about making the campaign for Halo 2 for Custom Edition. I know some people are in early stages of it at halomaps.org but you guys would to good on it with all your scripts.
I just want to know if you guys ever thought if it or had reasons for not doing it. (and please don't say that h2v is out because it sucks)

[ShadowSpartan]

Now why didn't you guys think about making the campaign for Halo 2 for Custom Edition. I know some people are in early stages of it at halomaps.org but you guys would to good on it with all your scripts.
I just want to know if you guys ever thought if it or had reasons for not doing it. (and please don't say that h2v is out because it sucks)
The mod has been in the works since February 2005, as CAD said in the first post. And that is just MP, and a revamp of the current Halo 1 campaign. How long do you think it would take someone to port a whole campaign over? A long time. And there are engine limitations that would make it very difficult. So its not going to happen.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

letalon cutscenes...

[ICEE]

Our first and second issue (and soon third) MP maps were H2-content only; our SP won't be limited to just H2 content (although it is the majority). In fact, there's still tons we haven't showed to the public yet.


and that is why zmt has outlasted cmt.

[teh lag]

and that is why zmt has outlasted cmt.

Explain please. I don't see what you're getting at there...

[Shadow5561]

Explain please. I don't see what you're getting at there...

I don't get what ironclad says either :fail:

[Roostervier]

My impression of what he says is him trying to sound wise, but really making no sense because what he says has no proof and/or logic behind it.

ZMT has out lasted CMT because ZMT's members work constantly and with motivation, while CMT just sort of came to a halt because no one wanted to work anymore due to a loss of interest.

[ICEE]

what I mean is, cmt went public far to early(edit: with spv2). people constantly harassed them, and then they got pissed and shut down there forum, eventually shutting down all progress.

that is of course my speculation. I would have assumed that this was obvious to everyone, which is why I didn't say it before. get off my back please?


and in response to flyinrooster's comment about me trying to sound wise:

I cant win can I? I post as i normally would and teh lag flames me. I post as i'm told is considered socially acceptable on these forums, and YOU insult me? if you don't like the way I type, deal with it.

[SnaFuBAR]

went public too early? how long do you think cmt has been developing?

[ICEE]

i guess that wasnt as understandable. ill edit. i meant that they went public to early with spv2, which seemed to have screwed them over.

[Roostervier]

Check your PMs ironclad.

Now, needs moar videoz. D:

[FRain]

K guys, we need to spam CAD on aim at -rep point until he gives us vidz D:

[ICEE]

for sure. id LOVE to see some POA crashing. NEEDS MOAR BOOM

[NeiaG]

well there shouldn't be an explosion actually. cause if it exploded that would mean no maw level.

[ICEE]

well if you drop a book on tile it makes a boom. imagine an halycon. doesn't need to explode to make a loud sound and shake the ground.

[NeiaG]

true. but i was talking about an explosion. if they could fit a boom in there that would be awesome. but it wouldnt be that loud because it looks like your pretty far away from the crash landing. from looking at the scenery changes your pretty far away. but thats my opinion.

[SnaFuBAR]

nice, mb we will get to play on them XD lol j/k...
in all seriousness... it's about time :embarrassed:

[Masterz1337]

went public too early? how long do you think cmt has been developing?
I would have no idea, but I would guess November 2005.

[WaЯReN]

I woulda have no idea, but I would guess November 2005.


I think he meant it in more of a "Do you even know how long CMT has been developing?" tone. I'll agree with Clad that they came out early, but I don't think that its what killed them. They were all busy with their LIVES and figured a halo mod wasn't worth all this time. I am saddened that it got killed when it was doing so well (or seemed to be). But enough about CMT, this is ZTeam dammit. Seeing all this made me react like an athsmatic fish out of water in a room full of pot smoking fratboys.

[Masterz1337]

1st. I posted that, I would know when we started the new mod.
2nd. We're not dead.
3rd. We expected to be doen with CE by the time H2v came out, but we all know what H2V is.

[WaЯReN]

Crap?

And I was saying that SnaFuBAR meant it like that. I think he was insinuating to IronClad that you guys had been in work for a long time, not asking to really get an answer.

(damn bold is acting up.....wont let take it off)

[supersniper]

Off Topic:
Sorry for still being off topic but Masterz people can still access the forum by clicking on the link on your cmt.h2vista.net (http://cmt.h2vista.net/main/) website. I don't know if you really care that much but I am just letting you know.

On Topic:
I agree I would like to see some videos on what the game play is like on some levels.

[NeiaG]

that would be cool to see some gameplay videos.

[DaneO'Roo]

yes l33t, show us a video of a30 with drop pods and poa crash for ultimate awesome.

[NeiaG]

will it be possible to make the pillar of autumn move and put in the sound effects?

[Hurrvish]

Are you going to include any of these in the campaign?

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3710/bipeds072706uc2ym7.jpg

[ICEE]

omg i want the arbiter biped.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

All. (excluding arbiter)

Btw, their shaders & such have been improved since that pic.

[supersniper]

Aw I would love to see the arbiter leading a bunch of elites while your are MC. That is something that they never really thought of in Halo 2. The only time they meet is when Gravemind has them both.

[343guiltymc]

Aw I would love to see the arbiter leading a bunch of elites while your are MC. That is something that they never really thought of in Halo 2. The only time they meet is when Gravemind has them both.
Wouldn't they have to create new levels if arbiter was added? I want the honor guard. :)

[ICEE]

All. (excluding arbiter)




DAMN YOU... crush my dreams please. lol....

if zteam released the arbiter biped, i would go balistic.


and bungie made sure that arbiter and MC never met on purpose, so you dont kill each other. that would abruptly end the story line

[supersniper]

Yeah I guess your right about that. The story would end fast.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Keep in mind that the arbiter was not... the arbiter pre-halo destruction.

[supersniper]

Yeah he was the gold elite that landed on Halo. The one that was
(*Caution ending to legendary on Halo*) hugging Sargent Johnson right when the Pillar of Autumn was about to blow.
Or I think that is the same elite correct me if I am wrong.

[NeiaG]

yeah but more than 1 elite was the arbitor. you should put the arbitor in "two betrayals" or another map and that'll explain what happened to the arbitor before halo 2's arbitor

[ICEE]

yeah it does make sense that he wouldn't be the arbiter. BUT some other elite probably wore the armor at that time. whether he was on halo or not i'm not sure. I would do pretty much anything for that arbiter biped. also, i don't see any buggers in there... i could possibly supply you with a model and textures for it if you don't have them

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Oh, I have them...

[ICEE]

damn. oh well, i hope your putting them to good use. hehehe imagine, silent cartographer in a cloud of drones.

[NeiaG]

i cant imagine it. but i hope that happens.

[ICEE]

yeah i have the model and textures but i don't really want to go through the effort of turning them into a biped that is only half fun to fight and extremely complicated to animate. but if i wasn't a lazy ass then i would make it happen

[Archon23]

You know I would love to see the Arbiter as a premutation if you release the super special elite maps.

[ICEE]

archon, i dont believe that permutations are possible in mp maps, that is if you want to do them right. the arbiter would require different FP arms, and that isnt possible to do. also, his armor would have to change colors to suit the player's team or default color, and thats a pain in the ass. no, i don't see that happening.

[Hurrvish]

Any Jackal snipers? Sentinels? Sentinel Enforcers. (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/47/arbypg0te3.png)?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Yes, yes, and yes.

[supersniper]

Ah good question. Any of them. Those amazing one hit wonders in legendary.

EDIT: Up he beat me to it.

[ICEE]

Yes, yes, and yes.


50 |337

[NeiaG]

this single player has 1337 all over it

[Hurrvish]

Is regional damage going to be in too?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Yes

[Stealth]

Brutes? Elites with Carbins(SP?)? Brute shotguns?

[hailstorm65]

yes!!!!!!!! there has to be maulers!!!!!!!



btw. sorry for never supporting this before, was a cmt fan back then

[Archon23]

Halo 2 mod. Not Halo 3.......

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Our first and second issue (and soon third) MP maps were H2-content only; our SP won't be limited to just H2 content (although it is the majority). In fact, there's still tons we haven't showed to the public yet.

.

(doesn't mean we're putting in maulers)

[Hotrod]

You haven't shown us any Drones or Brutes yet, will they be included?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Possibly.

[Hurrvish]

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1273/riggeddrone9nbee8.jpg

Why do I have this?

[Choking Victim]

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1273/riggeddrone9nbee8.jpg

Why do I have this?
you dont, that was posted by l33t on halomods ages ago. Doesn't mean much anyway. I rigged them almost 1 and a half years ago, and no ones touched them since, but we'll see what happens.

[Flyboy]

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1273/riggeddrone9nbee8.jpg
:suicide:

[supersniper]

yes!!!!!!!! there has to be maulers!!!!!!!



btw. sorry for never supporting this before, was a cmt fan back then
Oh great now your going to ruin Zteam too.
stupid fanboys.
:Djust kidding :D

[NeiaG]

woot for drones! :v one of the most anoyin things on legendary. (second to jackal snipers)

[ICEE]

i still think halo 2 elites are harder than halo 3 brutes, so theyre the most annoying thing on legendary to me

[Jay2645]

Wow, I missed 8 pages worth of stuff this weekend.

Just an idea, but maybe you guys can add a new objective to the Silent Cartographer where you have to assassinate a Minor Prophet who has found the Cartographer.
Just add the Prophet of Mercy model from Halo 2, give him Halo 2's little Prophet Chair-thingy, and make him sit there, looking at the Cartographer, with Elite and Brute Honor Guards guarding him. Then attach an invisible vehicle for boarding, and make it so when you exit, it looks like you're punching and killing him (with some help from scripting to make him invincible otherwise), and then blow up his chair. No new BSPs, just modifying a objective and adding a Prophet.

[SnaFuBAR]

well for one thing, there wouldn't be brute honor guards :rolleyes:

[Jay2645]

Ah right, I remember, Brute Honor Guards was Halo 3.
I've been playing too much H3, lol.

[Pooky]

archon, i dont believe that permutations are possible in mp maps,
Wrong.



that is if you want to do them right. the arbiter would require different FP arms, and that isnt possible to do.
True, but it hardly matters... you're still an elite


also, his armor would have to change colors to suit the player's team or default color, and thats a pain in the ass. no, i don't see that happening.
That wouldn't be hard at all... but I can't see any color variations looking good with the arbiters armor.

Yes, yes, and yes.
Awesome.

You haven't shown us any Drones or Brutes yet, will they be included?
yes please

eww no

woot for drones! :v one of the most anoyin things on legendary. (second to jackal snipers)
I agree fully with this post. Drones with Needlers are cockbites.

[SnaFuBAR]

Ah right, I remember, Brute Honor Guards was Halo 3.
I've been playing too much H3, lol.
no, they were halo2, but this isn't the halo 2 storyline. elite and brute honor guards never served together is the thing.

[AAA]

1st. I posted that, I would know when we started the new mod.
2nd. We're not dead.
3rd. We expected to be doen with CE by the time H2v came out, but we all know what H2V is.

That's the end of that rumor.


Can you show us an updated picture with some of the enemies together in one picture?
I want to see those new shaders. >.>

Do the Drones look better than that old model there?

flyboy: :suicide: Agreed.

and will there be brutes at all??

Other than those questions. This truly is a fulfilling insight of your campaign :) Just Awesome.

[SnaFuBAR]

am i the only one who thinks fighting an arbiter would be stupid?

[AAA]

am i the only one who thinks fighting an arbiter would be stupid?

No.

You're the only one who has mentioned it's stupid, though. That has to count for something, right?

There is no reason to be fighting an Arbiter if you're already going to be doing some intense fighting with 25 other new enemies along with new scenery, weapons, new shaders and teh shiny. So why someone wouldn't be fully content with THAT MUCH is beyond my comprehension of "Quantity v.s. Quality"

[ICEE]

am i the only one who thinks fighting an arbiter would be stupid?


agreed. i want the arbiter biped for other things


Wow, I missed 8 pages worth of stuff this weekend.

Just an idea, but maybe you guys can add a new objective to the Silent Cartographer where you have to assassinate a Minor Prophet who has found the Cartographer.
Just add the Prophet of Mercy model from Halo 2, give him Halo 2's little Prophet Chair-thingy, and make him sit there, looking at the Cartographer, with Elite and Brute Honor Guards guarding him. Then attach an invisible vehicle for boarding, and make it so when you exit, it looks like you're punching and killing him (with some help from scripting to make him invincible otherwise), and then blow up his chair. No new BSPs, just modifying a objective and adding a Prophet.

NOOO... cortana says (in halo 2) that a prophet "must be some kind of religious leader" which means that humanity has never encountered one before. so in other words, honor guards, prophets, or anything directly related to a prophet wouldn't fit. remember, in halo 1, you could have finished the entire game without EVER realizing that this was a holy war, provided that you had not read the books.

[hailstorm65]

Any Jackal snipers? Sentinels? Sentinel Enforcers. (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/47/arbypg0te3.png)?


Funny, I always called "sentinal enforcers" super sentinals. Seems more fitting.

[MNC]

Wow, I missed 8 pages worth of stuff this weekend.

Just an idea, but maybe you guys can add a new objective to the Silent Cartographer where you have to assassinate a Minor Prophet who has found the Cartographer.
Just add the Prophet of Mercy model from Halo 2, give him Halo 2's little Prophet Chair-thingy, and make him sit there, looking at the Cartographer, with Elite and Brute Honor Guards guarding him. Then attach an invisible vehicle for boarding, and make it so when you exit, it looks like you're punching and killing him (with some help from scripting to make him invincible otherwise), and then blow up his chair. No new BSPs, just modifying a objective and adding a Prophet.

Ew, I hated the boarding Prophet shit. It looked dumb and didn't fit in.

Why not have someone cinematically awesomely kill the prophet like the arbiter did with truth?

[ODX]

but there were earlier arbiters, so it'd be awesome if the chief came up against one on halo. (and that would give some fanfic backstory to what happend to the previous arbiter)
What I don't get though...is how they get the armor back after the Arbiter dies. I guess it's just because they're the covenant, and they're awesome.:D

[ICEE]

lol they probably have like 40 suits of armor in a warehouse or something. one gets incinerated they just take another from the pile.

[supersniper]

Hey sorry for not talking about the arbiter but I was wondering (since CMT is well I don't want to talk about it because it might cause some problems) if anyone would be interested in a dedicated server specifically for the zteam maps. I did have one up for CMT but yes I could make it for zteam now. PM me if anyone is interested. I don't want to hijack this thread. Lol.

Back on topic:
I think adding a prophet into the Halo campaign would actually be really cool. Yes and the previous arbiter. His background story was probably letting the MC live instead of killing off ALL of the Spartans.

[Hurrvish]

I think this campaign MOD won't include any story arc changing characters.
It's just Halo 1's campaign with Halo 2 content.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[supersniper]

Well they are including Drones , honor guards, and the sentinel enforcer which all are only in Halo 2 because they are needed their. Plus what would the point of honor guards if they are not guarding anything. So there must be a Prophet somewhere. Also the sentinel enforcer was only in Halo 2 also so that would alter the campaign MOD.

[Limited]

2005? I thought you were modding Halo PC then... >_>

Looks nice though, good work.

[ShadowSpartan]

Well they are including Drones , honor guards, and the sentinel enforcer which all are only in Halo 2 because they are needed their. Plus what would the point of honor guards if they are not guarding anything. So there must be a Prophet somewhere. Also the sentinel enforcer was only in Halo 2 also so that would alter the campaign MOD.
I fail to see adding a sentinel enforcer would alter the campaign story in any way. I can understand a Prophet altering it, since it is a major character but not an enforcer. As for Honor Guards, would adding them alter the storyline? Nope. They look cool so why not add them.

[Archon23]

Hell they could be guarding some high ranking elite, and all 3 had swords. FRUSTRATION LOL (I don't care if they're only Prophet guards. Like Shadow said they look cool and it'll just make sense if they're guarding SOMETHING)

[supersniper]

I guess so.

[ICEE]

i think that a few sentinel enforcers would be fine,theres no reason why there shouldn't be some. honor guards are meant to guard prophets so i don't see why there would be any. as for councilor elites, why not? it would make sense for the high ranking elites to go to the "sacred ring". drones and brutes were added to the covenant after the destruction of the first ring, but that small detail doesn't REALLY matter to the story.

[Jay2645]

I said MINOR Prophet, not anyone like the Prophet of Mercy. In the book Halo: The Flood, Yayap and the Elite whose name I can't spell meet with one of the Prophets, one who wasn't in Halo 2. You could use him without altering the storyline, since even Minor Prophets outrank Gold Elites, and a Minor Prophet could die without altering a story line. And 343 GS explains what a Halo is in Halo 2, and a short conversation between Miranda Keyes and Master Chief in Halo 3 explains what one is as well.[/rant]

What's your take on it, Zteam?

[malolo420]

i think that a few sentinel enforcers would be fine,theres no reason why there shouldn't be some. honor guards are meant to guard prophets so i don't see why there would be any. as for councilor elites, why not? it would make sense for the high ranking elites to go to the "sacred ring". drones and brutes were added to the covenant after the destruction of the first ring, but that small detail doesn't REALLY matter to the story.
In one of the books the chief faught a brute before the the ring was destroyed.


Edit: and I don't know if this has been asked yet, but is there going to be flood juggernaut?

[Jay2645]

In one of the books the chief faught a brute before the the ring was destroyed.


Edit: and I don't know if this has been asked yet, but is there going to be flood juggernaut?
Ah yes, I was going to ask that question, too. Didn't get around to it trying to construct a story around a Prophet.
Anyway, is there going to be the Juggernaut? *Crosses Fingers*

[ICEE]

well if they did other flood than its possible someone on zteam LOVES biped rigging. lol

[ShadowSpartan]

well if they did other flood than its possible someone on zteam LOVES biped rigging. lol
Choking is amazing at rigging. He has done all of the bipeds.

[malolo420]

I rigged a flood juggernaut, but since it uses bones instead of a biped thing blitzkrieg wont let me export.

[ICEE]

Choking is amazing at rigging. He has done all of the bipeds.

i see... i cant wait to see them in action

[p0lar_bear]

Choking is amazing at rigging. He has done all of the bipeds.

No lie, he also rigged me.

[nooBBooze]

So would that script extraction actuall allow you to expand certain levels? like an extra valley in "halo"? or add scripted events like for inst. a LS boming run?
Also, tricky dodging on my AR question there :P

[ShadowSpartan]

So would that script extraction actuall allow you to expand certain levels? like an extra valley in "halo"? or add scripted events like for inst. a LS boming run?
Also, tricky dodging on my AR question there :P
Yes. With scripts almost anything can be added.


or add scripted events like for inst. a LS boming run?
Wish I could understand that...

[343guiltymc]

Yes. With scripts almost anything can be added.


Wish I could understand that...
I think he meant scripted events like the Longsword bombing run, similar to the one from the halo 2 E3 trailer. Can you alternate/change the cutscenes in the campaign?

[Archon23]

Well if they're adding a POA crash I don't think a Longsword Bombing Run would be too hard. :downs:

[MNC]

When you've got source scripts, just about anything can gets changed.

[ODX]

Hell they could be guarding some high ranking elite, and all 3 had swords.

Speaking of swords, and in Halo 2 swords had a limited energy in campaign...will the sword for this have energy, and then turn into the deadly handle of no energy?

[NeiaG]

if its gonna be halo 2, will kenny001's dual wielding script be put in this?

[supersniper]

Ah thats a good question. Duel wielding. I think that, that script would work well with it.

[ICEE]

If they did dual wielding it would probably be buggy. and i hope that the wieldable swords have very little ammo. they make it to easy.


No lie, he also rigged me.

amazing. i think i need to +rep him

[Inferno]

true. i think they should just leave dual wielding out of it. its not really that "amazing" anyways. WOW I HAVE 2 HANDS! I WONDER IF I CAN PICK UP 2 GUNS! OMFG THIS IS SO CRAZY!! :XD:

Also i like maps of this quality not to have weird glitches. Especially ones that would directly effect the game play... or my sniper rifle ammo....

[MNC]

One of the biggest thing that bothered me in Halo 2 was that it didn't feel complete. It felt rushed, because it was. Take your time, please.

[Pooky]

If they did dual wielding it would probably be buggy.

You did play his test dual wielding map right? It's not buggy and it works just fine.

[NeiaG]

You did play his test dual wielding map right? It's not buggy and it works just fine.

where can I find that map?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

You did play his test dual wielding map right? It's not buggy and it works just fine.

1. Will not work with weapons dropped from dead characters. (Majority of weapons)
2. Does not retain ammo.

[343guiltymc]

where can I find that map?
Not map, script. You have to use it with HMT I believe. :eyesroll:

[Inferno]

you compile scripts with Sapien... HMT doesn't support scripting.... or Halo CE without hex editing.

[FRain]

^

:fail: :maddowns:

No, no no no no never HMT with CE. You use a .hsc file in your tags\levels\mapname\scripts folder.

[ShadowSpartan]

Not map, script. You have to use it with HMT I believe. :eyesroll:
Actually he did put up a download of a map with a few weapons examples, the download no longer works however. Please get your facts straight.

[MNC]

Even the suckiest videocards have wraiths and ghosts as purple, the diffuse is purple.

[MNC]

On a completely different, more ontopic note: I seriously hope you're going to animate the scarab instead of putting AI in it. Halo 3's scarab vehicle was great for AI, but that scarab from extinction (I don't know if your scarab is completely new or a revamp of extinction's) had stupid walking animations.

Will you have a preset path like Halo 2?

[PopeAK49]

this campaign looks quite promising.

[Archon23]

On a completely different, more ontopic note: I seriously hope you're going to animate the scarab instead of putting AI in it. Halo 3's scarab vehicle was great for AI, but that scarab from extinction (I don't know if your scarab is completely new or a revamp of extinction's) had stupid walking animations.

Will you have a preset path like Halo 2?


100% scripted. None of that kill-the-driver-then-you-can-use-it bullshit.

.

[MNC]

.

Thanks for that.

[hailstorm65]

I would even enjoy a 15 second vid. of the scarab fight.:worship:

[ICEE]

Sup guys internet was down all week due to screwy modem


It's an alien weapon, made for aliens, out of alien material. Why the fuck would it need to be anything like what we define as a rifle? Why are you even classing it as a true rifle when it's plain as day that not one Covenant weapon, with the possible exception of the Brute Shot, is rifled?

A rifle is a weapon with - get this - a rifled barrel to improve accuracy. I'm well aware that some Covenant weapons are nicknamed rifles due to the fact they're the closest counterpart role-wise, but they are not, by any stretch of the imagination, rifles.

By the way, particles are matter, right? Newton's laws still apply, therefore they cause recoil as they are propelled from the weapon at huge velocities in large clumps. You are incorrect on all counts. Thanks.


No, it means you need a new video card, apparently.


good god take a chill pill. no need to freak about something that is completely imaginary anyways

[FRain]

^

K.


What the shit?

Rossmum was compeltely right, I think YOU need to take a chill-pill because YOU were trying to argue the point. Now I need to take a chill pill. Thanks alot.

[ICEE]

flamingrain, he brought back a post from PAGES ago, he clearly doesn't know when to stop caring. and your just instigating it more, seriously frain, i don't know what this sudden rage thing is about, because we were friendly just a few days ago, but stop it already. shit

[Choking Victim]

his internet was down all weekend due to a screwy modem and he wanted to express his opinion on a previous post. He posted that on the 24th, its now the 26th, why criticize someone for doing just about the same thing your doing? Lets end the pointless posts here. Keep it on topic.

[Tweek]

flamingrain, he brought back a post from PAGES ago, he clearly doesn't know when to stop caring. and your just instigating it more, seriously frain, i don't know what this sudden rage thing is about, because we were friendly just a few days ago, but stop it already. shit

YOU're going on about it with that very post.

if you want to drop the arguement, STOP FUCKIGN ARGUING IDIOT!
simple.
dont mention it again, if you don't want to look like a total dumbass.

[ICEE]

his internet was down all weekend due to a screwy modem and he wanted to express his opinion on a previous post. He posted that on the 24th, its now the 26th, why criticize someone for doing just about the same thing your doing? Lets end the pointless posts here. Keep it on topic.

yes, sorry about that, i was trying to end it...


but in the ON topic discussion about the scarab, if it is going to be scripted scenery, will it be destroyable? i think it would be really cool to have a scarab running around on AOTCR and maybe have a longsword drop and bomb it. and if you do that, maybe a blue screenflashing damage effect or lense flare or something? that would make it like h3's explosion (maybe, im no effects master)


if you make it driven by AI, it would kind of be sad to watch it bump into walls and shit

[Shadow5561]

yes, sorry about that, i was trying to end it...


but in the ON topic discussion about the scarab, if it is going to be scripted scenery, will it be destroyable? i think it would be really cool to have a scarab running around on AOTCR and maybe have a longsword drop and bomb it. and if you do that, maybe a blue screenflashing damage effect or lense flare or something? that would make it like h3's explosion (maybe, im no effects master)


if you make it driven by AI, it would kind of be sad to watch it bump into walls and shit

Well it's perfectly possible to have a Scarab walking around on AOTCR but having a londsword drop a bomb on it then have an explosion blow it up might be abit difficult.

[Archon23]

Well they are having the POA crash but then again this raises the question......where would the Longsword come from? I mean the POA was the only ship there and its kinda ruined yah know.

[n00b1n8R]

plus, there's little room to fly a LS in those canyons, let along a scarab.

[Hurrvish]

This is turning into something like the threads in the CMT section

[Rob Oplawar]

=O
/me takes cover in a bomb shelter

[Roostervier]

Well they are having the POA crash but then again this raises the question......where would the Longsword come from? I mean the POA was the only ship there and its kinda ruined yah know.There were pelican drop ships too, mister. :eng101:

Still, a longsword bombing run would be really out of place :\.

[ICEE]

yeah i suppose so. but it would be cool to see.

[paladin]

Wow! Looks sweet.

[ODX]

Yeah, Longsword bombings only occur when defending Earth cities. The humans aren't attacking Halo, they just happened to land on it. (go watch the Halo 2 Demo from E3 2004, instead of a scarab, it was a giant scarab turret that got bombed by two Longswords and got destroyed in a big esplozion!)

[n00b1n8R]

actually, what would be really cool if there was a longsword/serpha fight going on as you come out from the cartographer :O!

[ICEE]

ross, what is with this attack on me? im going to take tweeks advice and drop this, i suggest you do too, PM me if you have some other comments towards me. and that bombing comment, was just my opinion, its not like im trying to take control of this mod or anything

[TeeKup]

You're a non intellectual person, thats why. Think before you post. Almost every single post in this thread by you has contained some form of stupidity and poor reasoning.

[ICEE]

this thread isnt about me. god damn, PM ME IF YOU WANT TO FLAME ME SO I CAN HAPPILY IGNORE IT

[Boba]

Anyway, will there be and additional encounters? Like an addition of a fight to the crashed PoA? Awesomeness could ensue if made epic enough.

[n00b1n8R]

Anyway, will there be and additional encounters? Like an addition of a fight to the crashed PoA? Awesomeness could ensue if made epic enough.

^or perhaps you have to do some flying (and shooting) to escape on keys?

[ICEE]

that would be cool but frustrating

[n00b1n8R]

well tbh, I think a little more flying action would be really cool.

[TeeKup]

Then go pick up a copy of Ace Combat 6. :-3

[Pooky]

actually, what would be really cool if there was a longsword/serpha fight going on as you come out from the cartographer :O!

actually that would be awesome. Except change longsword with pelican and seraph with banshee so it actually makes sense with the storyline
"We are taking heavy fire and are losing altitude!"

[ICEE]

well tbh, I think a little more flying action would be really cool.

it would make sense actually, i mean theres one flight-fight in h2 and one in h3, but none in halo 1... i don't see why it couldn't be arranged, even by a nooby modder... *opens sapien* :D

[Huero]

Do pelis have chainguns in their backs now?

[Pooky]

it would make sense actually, i mean theres two flight-fight in h2 and one in h3, but several in halo 1... i don't see why it couldn't be arranged, even by a nooby modder... *opens sapien* :D

Fixed that for you.

[Boba]

Do pelis have chainguns in their backs now?
Yes, sir.

[ICEE]

Fixed that for you.

wheres the aerial battle in halo 1? i suppose you could say those moments when you fly a banshee in aotcr count, but theyre not really epic like the fights in the second and third game...