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ExAm
November 12th, 2007, 09:31 PM
So a friend of mine decides to go on a ranting spree, and turns out a couple of the best I've seen.

Here's the "Halo Killer" rant:



Monday, November 12, 2007

"Halo Killer" (http://myvideogamerants.blogspot.com/2007/11/halo-killer.html)

Halo, wow, 7 or 8 years ago, if you said that very few gamers would know what you were talking about. Nowadays it's hard to find any gamer that hasn't at least heard of the game, with each game making record sales, and bringing less employes into the work place for a few days.

In general, the Halo series, is one of the most well known video game series, and has influenced many other games and pop culture. It can be found with Halloween pumpkins, machinima and various other areas.

Since the release of Halo: Combat Evolved, a phrase was invented by the press and gaming community, this phrase became increasingly popular towards the release of Halo 2, with the most famous game for receiving it was Killzone.

A number of months before it was released, Killzone was labeled by a gaming magazine as "The Halo Killer." The press for the game blew up considerably with people flocking to previews, trailers, and screenshots of the game. The game was finally released, and was met with lukewarm reviews, but was generally considered vastly inferior to Halo. With news of it's bad reviews, and public opinion, the game became regarded as somewhat of a joke to a lot of gamers.

But when looking at the game by itself, it's an amazing experience, it may have it's problems, but in general, deserves better scores then received, so then, perhaps it was the title "Halo Killer" that killed the game, rather then Halo, with expectations blow out of proportion with the hype the was gotten along with the title.

What did the company think of the title? "You can't buy that kind of publicity. Anyways, who is going to say their game is not as good as another game. That is a matter of opinion. "Killing" a game is a ridiculous concept and it is not possible."

So their game given a title that was not wanted, made the game meet lower reviews and public opinion. Not a "Halo Killer" indeed.

But then, what IS a "Halo Killer?"

What could "Halo Killer" mean? Does it mean superior gameplay? Does it mean more sales? Does it mean better story? Does it mean better review scores? Does it mean that everyone will drop Halo and buy the "Halo Killer" instead?

Let's break these down, in terms of gameplay, many PC users will say they've had their Halo Killers around for years, with games such as Half-Life, And a large number of people will agree that the 2 Nintendo64 smash hit titles from Rare, Perfect Dark, and Goldeneye, far surpass Halo.

In terms of Sales, Halo is not the best selling game ever with games like The Sims, Mario, Grand Theft Auto and more far outselling Halo. Also, what do sales have to do with a good game? A lot of the time it can be a guider, but with games such as DRIV3R, and Enter the Matrix, which sold well but were hated among critics and gamers, yet games like Psychonauts, and Beyond Good and Evil, which were both critically and publicly acclaimed, sold horribly. So do sales really mean all that much?

People talk about a better story often, and yet, what defines a better story? Mostly it's all up to personal opinion, but once again, there are first person shooters with much more in depth stories, like once again, Half-Life. But people have different opinions, and some people may find the story of Mario better then the story of Halo, and that is their opinion. So what are we left with?

A big point is review scores, but again, this boils down to opinion, with Halo 2, and Halo 3 scoring lower on review sites such as Gamespot. Yet many people believe them to be superior, leading back to the fact that reviews are opinions. Another problem with reviews, is that most of the time they are measured up against what is out at that time, not for the game to stand on it's own, with examples like, the PS3 version of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, coming out a year later, but with better loading times, more content, and better graphics, yet it received a lower score. This all leads to the fact that reviews are not solely the reason compare games.

Lastly some people expect a game to come out that makes everyone drop Halo and pick it up. This will not happen, even if the game IS better then Halo, because of the cost of a new game, or the having to learn new controls and gameplay, when you already know the game you play the most. Maybe it will be on a system that they down own, regardless, there will never be a game that will make people suddenly drop Halo.


So is Halo really that good that nothing will touch it?

I am not saying that, Halo is only as good as your opinion of it. And lots of people already have games that they have higher opinions then Halo, So does that mean we have found our "Halo Killers?"

Maybe, but that would mean that "Halo Killer" is a personal description rather then a general one, leaving the game Killzone to take the blunt of the blade, one of which it couldn't have defeated.

So what would people want a "Halo Killer" to be like?

Different people would give you different answers, and yet, most people would have it be a game like Halo, which leads to another problem, because in this world of video games, people would argue that it is a blatant rip off of Halo, even if it's better. But what if was made differently? Would it lead to a game so unlike Halo it wouldn't be in the same ballpark, and would that mean it still has a chance to be a "Halo Killer?" Or does it only apply to first person shooters? Even so, the first person shooter genre has multiple sub-genres, such as the amazing amount of World War II first person shooters, realistic modern first person shooters, Sci-Fi Shooters, and other categories.

Does that mean that in the first person shooter genre itself, the "Halo Killer" title can only be handed to certain genres of first person shooters, or can it even be given to non first person shooter games? And if it can what does it mean? Can you even compare a racing, or fighting game to a First Person Shooter? How could you ever decide what game is a "Halo Killer?"

At the end of the day, the best way to describe "Halo Killer" is a personal thing, because the only way for a game to "Kill" Halo, is to have it better your personal opinion of Halo, which is only defined by what you personally like to see in games.

The only "Halo Killer" that people will ever drop Halo for, is in fact another Halo game.\



The rest of them are here (http://myvideogamerants.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2007-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=5)

Con
November 12th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Good read, thanks for posting

rossmum
November 12th, 2007, 11:32 PM
I agree, I can't stand when some hare-brained fanboy brags about how much [insert PS2/3-exclusive game here] is a 'Halo killer'. It's just so fucking stupid to suggest one game will 'kill' another, so why do it?

The Halo series is such an amazing feat of game development and storytelling that I doubt anything else could so much as hurt it, let alone kill it.

ExAm
November 12th, 2007, 11:52 PM
Let's not praise the rant and then say exactly what it's aiming to stop, shall we? :downs:

rossmum
November 13th, 2007, 12:11 AM
Well, look at the figures... it's obviously a strong title, like HL2 is on PC.

n00b1n8R
November 13th, 2007, 12:13 AM
I thought it was aiming to stop people throwing around the phrase "halo killer" :downs:

good rant.

jahrain
November 13th, 2007, 12:19 AM
Games for windows live + Vista exclusive + terrible port was literally a "Halo Killer" hands down.

Archon23
November 13th, 2007, 12:20 AM
I thought it was aiming to stop people throwing around the phrase "halo killer" :downs:

good rant.

But the only people throwing that phrase around are the ones who wouldn't have the attention span to read that. :v

rossmum
November 13th, 2007, 12:21 AM
Games for windows live + Vista exclusive + terrible port was literally a "Halo Killer" hands down.
*H2V killer

I agree though

Bodzilla
November 13th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Games for windows live + Vista exclusive + terrible port was literally a "Halo Killer" hands down.
omfg hahaha
:XD:

i'll pay that Jah. well said.

Agamemnon
November 13th, 2007, 01:45 AM
I've said it dozens of times. Halo broke the new generation of gamer children's FPS cherry, therefore capturing the alluring gaze of millions of fans to turn the blind eye to the words "Already been done and better." You know, kind of like what Final Fantasy VII did back in 1997; millions of fanboy's cherries were also popped, just in the VRPG category. There isn't going to be a "Halo killer." Halo is always going to have its own section in gaming history for breaking some of the top movie sales records of all time and a forefront move on Microsoft to capitalize on the gaming industry. This glory will dissipate when it's Microsoft pulling the stupid moves and some new independent developer with their exclusive system and bought-out title that then storm the market, but it's not something we're going to see any time soon. Give it another ten years, we'll definitely have something else recycled and that has already been done--and better--by then.

ExAm
November 13th, 2007, 01:58 AM
"Already been done and better different"Just because the concept has been done before doesn't mean it isn't different, or that people shouldn't like it just for that reason. People have opinions, ever hear of them? Some like Halo, some like other games. It doesn't mean one is better, when will people who think like that just GET it already? I'm sick of people telling me that I have no right to prefer Halo over other games, or that I'm somehow stupid for it.

Agamemnon
November 13th, 2007, 02:00 AM
I'm sick of fanboy arguments too. The game was fun, not baby Jesus. There was nothing different about an over-used and borrowed plot, down to the characters and the very environment the game played out in. I give Halo credit where it is due, which is that it is fun, not game-breakingly new in any sense at all.

DaneO'Roo
November 13th, 2007, 02:11 AM
I think people think to much about shit that doesn't require thought.

The rant was common sense. Halo killer doesn't need thought. We all know what the term means.

Bodzilla
November 13th, 2007, 02:12 AM
i think the guy that wrote that Thread has too much spare time on his hands.

while what he said is true, i just wonder how he could write such a long-winded and ultimately useless analysis of the term "halo killer".

he needs boobs.
STAT!

rossmum
November 13th, 2007, 06:41 AM
I don't think anyone quite appreciates how deep Halo's story is. Hardly generic, if you take the time to actually look into it.

Agamemnon
November 13th, 2007, 08:23 AM
I don't think anyone quite appreciates how deep Halo's story is. Hardly generic, if you take the time to actually look into it.
Religion + Ringworld + Starcraft + Starship Troopers + Aliens

Yep, hardly generic. I guess "borrowed" would be the correct word.

rossmum
November 13th, 2007, 08:33 AM
It's hardly that straightforward, although it does clearly draw a lot of inspiration from those.

ExAm
November 13th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Religion + Ringworld + Starcraft + Starship Troopers + Aliens

Yep, hardly generic. I guess "borrowed" would be the correct word.You're looking at it far too analytically. You're stripping it down to a few influences that are in it, while not even looking at any of the actual story, including the various connections to the books, and the way that each part of the story weaves into another that is seemingly unconnected. If you haven't read the books (while a little sloppy, they're still worth it to get the backstory) or any of the other non-game material, then you won't get it, if you haven't looked at how deep the storyline actually is, then you won't get it. You're not approaching the story from the right angle here.

TeeKup
November 13th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Halo is in a category of its own. Like that review said, the only thing that can kill Halo is another Halo game. There's just something about the game that brings everyone to it.

Pooky
November 13th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Religion + Ringworld + Starcraft + Starship Troopers + Aliens

Yep, hardly generic. I guess "borrowed" would be the correct word.

and those stories draw inspiration from previous stories, as have all stories since people first told the things.

Anyways, I don't really consider writing this any less pathetic than using the term 'Halo Killer' in the first place. It's just a different side of the same idiotic conflict between fanboys with no lives and slightly more prosy fanboys with no lives. If you really care that much what someone calls another game that's not your favorite game, drop it and go outside.