wow... just wow.

[Bodzilla]

Source:
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10.aspx

DirectX®10 offers a wide variety of benefits to gamers. Let's dive into the details now:

• More Life-like materials and characters


http://www.gamesforwindows.com/PublishingImages/globals/images/arrowHead.gif Picture 1: DirectX®10 (Crysis)
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/PublishingImages/aboutGFW/DirectX10_screen.jpg



http://www.gamesforwindows.com/PublishingImages/globals/images/arrowHead.gif Picture 2: DirectX®9 (Halo: Combat Evolved)
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/PublishingImages/aboutGFW/DirectX9_screen.jpghttp://www.gamesforwindows.com/PublishingImages/aboutGFW/DirectX_screen2.jpg

You can see the difference for yourself when we compare Picture 2, a screenshot taken from 'Halo: Combat evolved', a PC game which was among the best of its class at release to Picture 1, an image from 'Crysis', a PC game which is slated to release soon. Halo uses DirectX®9.0b to support its graphics while Crysis makes use of DirectX®10.

DX10 adds a new level of realism to games by making characters more life-like. You can see the incredible detail in the screenshot above. The facial expressions, details of the face, the handle-bar moustache and the glazed looking eyes all add to the realism.

For technical details, please visit: http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/ (http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/)
and this is the propoganda there using to sell there OS?

wow. just wow.

[Phobias]

That first pic took me a while to realise it wasn't actually real...

[Reaper Man]

Old tbh. That comparison has been around for quite a while.

[DaneO'Roo]

Look at that handlebar mustache!!

I wonder how long it took Direct X10 to paint that in Photoshop :haw:


*edit*

http://www.killzoneunit.com/kz/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ut3_big.jpg

*Direct X9*

[beele]

Source:

http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/AboutGFW/Pages/DirectX10.aspx
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and this is the propoganda there using to sell there OS?


wow. just wow.



Thats been around for quite a while acutally ;). But it's nice.

[Snowy]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/snowysnowcones/rage9yk4.jpg

OpenGL (current version) :)

[Xetsuei]

The first picture is real, idiots... But still to compare Crysis to a game like Halo PC is simply fucking stupid.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Xetsuei™;186996']The first picture is real, idiots... But still to compare Crysis to a game like Halo PC is simply fucking stupid.

Totally with you there, they should compare Crysis with Direct X 9 and Direct X10, not 2 different games, especially with one that is over 5 years old..

[Patrickssj6]

Ancient...:cry:

[Terry]

Lol, Games For Windows Lies. :lie:

Oh yes, I did go there! :p

[Abdurahman]

Stupid comparison. Why would they compare DX10 with 9.0b??!! Also why would they compare Crysis with a 5 year old game, Halo? They shoulda compared it to COD4 or UT3 instead, seeing as they both support DX9.

[Rob Oplawar]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/snowysnowcones/rage9yk4.jpg

OpenGL (current version) :)
There may be hope for Linux gaming yet.

edit: That's that thing ID showed off a few months ago, isn't it? Maybe I should look into that more.

[jahrain]

Stupid comparison. Why would they compare DX10 with 9.0b??!! Also why would they compare Crysis with a 5 year old game, Halo? They shoulda compared it to COD4 or UT3 instead, seeing as they both support DX9.
But then people would see the truth in the differences between dx10 and dx9, which will not satisfy their goals of misleading gamers into believing that dx10 is significantly greater than dx9 for the purpose of getting pc gamers to adopt vista. If they showed off shots that portray actual truth, in comparing dx10 abilities to dx9 abilities, the differences would be so minimal that a simpleton would mearly say "meh, doesn't look much different to me, whats the point in upgrading to vista for dx10?". Now comparing dx10 graphics of a next gen title to a game made back in 2001 for the original xbox and saying that it is what dx9 has to offer, that would better suit their priorities.

[Pooky]

Stupid comparison. Why would they compare DX10 with 9.0b??!! Also why would they compare Crysis with a 5 year old game, Halo? They shoulda compared it to COD4 or UT3 instead, seeing as they both support DX9.


But then people would see the truth in the differences between dx10 and dx9, which will not satisfy their goals of misleading gamers into believing that dx10 is significantly greater than dx9 for the purpose of getting pc gamers to adopt vista. If they showed off shots that portray actual truth, in comparing dx10 abilities to dx9 abilities, the differences would be so minimal that a simpleton would mearly say "meh, doesn't look much different to me, whats the point in upgrading to vista for dx10?". Now comparing dx10 graphics of a next gen title to a game made back in 2001 for the original xbox and saying that it is what dx9 has to offer, that would better suit their priorities.

To simplify jahrains ranting, they're trying to sell DX10, not tell the truth.

[Abdurahman]

Yeah, that's true. They ARE Microsoft by the way.

[thehoodedsmack]

^ I think it's more appropriate to say they're businessmen. Anyone who knows the value of a dollar should do the same given the opportunity.

[Agamemnon]

^ I think it's more appropriate to say they're businessmen. Anyone who knows the value of a dollar should do the same given the opportunity.
Sieg Heil Capitalism "balancing the economy" http://www.ostcode.de/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_addi2.gif

[Limited]

Firstly, you must have been under a rock for years, this is ultra old.

Secondly, this is Microsoft we are talking about, they are the best business men in the world. They are amazing at taking ideas and convincing people to buy theirs.

I suggest all of you read the wording properly next time.
"a screenshot taken from 'Halo: Combat evolved', a PC game which was among the best of its class at release to Picture 1."

Basically, the top game of release of DirextX9b was Halo, top game of release of DX10 is Crysis. DX10 has WAY more capabilities than what Crysis has.

[Botolf]

I suggest all of you read the wording properly next time.
"a screenshot taken from 'Halo: Combat evolved', a PC game which was among the best of its class at release to Picture 1."
Sneaky, very sneaky.

[Pooky]

I suggest all of you read the wording properly next time.
"a screenshot taken from 'Halo: Combat evolved', a PC game which was among the best of its class at release to Picture 1."

Oh yes that makes sense. We're the ones in the wrong for thinking they should compare a MODERN Direct X 9 game to Crysis, instead of a FIVE YEAR OLD game, which wasn't even that graphically impressive when it was new. It pulled off a few neat tricks, like the camo, but that screenshot doesn't show anything but a low poly head. Great thinking.

[klange]

http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/phpThumb.php?src=/forums/imgcache/21915.imgcache
It's a conspiracy.

[Roostervier]

If you actually read what Limited said, it makes perfect sense. <_<

What he said was, Halo was one of the top games released at the beginning of dx9b. Crysis is one of the top games released at the beginning of dx10. He is saying it that if you want to compare Crysis to a modern dx9 game, then that wouldn't be fair. A fair comparison would be a modern (at this time) dx9 game and a "modern" dx10 game in 5 more years (since dx10 probably is not being fully utilized, just like dx9 wasn't fully utilized in Halo).

[4RT1LL3RY]

They could have compared DX 9.0c, and compared it too Half-life 2. Which kicks Halo's ass graphically.
Also OpenGL ftw. It can work on any OS so porting games becomes much easier. Like what Epic does, with Unreal Tournament on Linux and OSX.
Halo looks like a DX8 game compared to the good DX9 games.

[Random]

So who wants a picture of crysis in dx9 >:D

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/Random846/supdx9.jpg

[Snowy]

http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/phpThumb.php?src=/forums/imgcache/21915.imgcache
It's a conspiracy.

There's several things wrong with that. First off, the next version of OpenGL isn't called 2.1, it's called 3. Secondly, many of the images that are claiming to be OpenGL are DX10. For example, the head in the lower right is actually an Nvidia DX10 demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TJPYoKtJpQ). Infact, I don't even thing the OpenGL 3 API has been released. (Although I may be wrong) The only "Next Gen" game that's using OpenGL is Rage (http://www.shacknews.com/reviews/game.x/4598), and that's not OpenGL 3. Also, the screenshot I posted of Rage isn't actually a screenshot. It was a photo taken from the announcement trailer at Quakecon. John Carmack has also stated that the rendering engine of Rage is not finished.

imo OpenGL > DX

[Limited]

Oh yes that makes sense. We're the ones in the wrong for thinking they should compare a MODERN Direct X 9 game to Crysis, instead of a FIVE YEAR OLD game, which wasn't even that graphically impressive when it was new. It pulled off a few neat tricks, like the camo, but that screenshot doesn't show anything but a low poly head. Great thinking.
Does some one have to bash you in the head for you to understand anything? Yes it is sneaky for them to compare it to Halo 1 as it is a mega old game, but they cant compare it to Half Life 2 which is a game that has been made after DX9b/c came out a long time ago and compare it to a DX10 game that is released after DX10 has been out for ages, because there is no DX10 with that criteria.

They're comparing an off the bat game of the DX9b release to an off the bat game of the DX10 release. Fairs fair is it not?

They cant show the full potential of DX10 yet, so they do the same with DX9b, Halo wasnt the full potential of it then.

Also FriedMetroid, Halo WAS impressive when it was new, what shit are you smoking to think it wasnt?

[Phopojijo]

Xetsuei™;186996']The first picture is real, idiots... But still to compare Crysis to a game like Halo PC is simply fucking stupid.Actually not really.

DX10 launch versus DX9 launch is what they're trying to show.

[Bodzilla]

but how can u not take into account that Mass's of time between the 2 launches.

that is pretty significant, considering How fucking fast the Computing industry evolves.

[Chewy Gumball]

If you look at what dx9 started as and what it is now, then look at where dx10 starts as...

[Agamemnon]

I suggest all of you read the wording properly next time.
"a screenshot taken from 'Halo: Combat evolved', a PC game which was among the best of its class at release to Picture 1."
That's also bullshit.

[jahrain]

Crysis is basically a dx9 game with graphic features artificially "disabled" for those who are not using dx10 hardware on vista. A simple cfg edit enables such effects that the game barely looks any different in dx9 than to dx10. Comparing crysis with halo is comparing dx9 to dx9, but of different generations.

The fact remains that their is barely anything microsoft could visually demonstrate to gamers that would show any major advantage of dx10 to dx9. Thats why artificial advantages were created to portray it, such as restricting one from using the highest quality settings in a game unless they run in dx10. Most of the changes reside in rewiring the code to work only for vista, as well as setting uniform hardware requirements to lock-in vendors and benefit game developers rather than consumers. Remember, as Steve Ballmer says: Developers, developers, developers, developers...

[klange]

There's several things wrong with that. First off, the next version of OpenGL isn't called 2.1, it's called 3. Secondly, many of the images that are claiming to be OpenGL are DX10. For example, the head in the lower right is actually an Nvidia DX10 demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TJPYoKtJpQ). Infact, I don't even thing the OpenGL 3 API has been released. (Although I may be wrong) The only "Next Gen" game that's using OpenGL is Rage (http://www.shacknews.com/reviews/game.x/4598), and that's not OpenGL 3. Also, the screenshot I posted of Rage isn't actually a screenshot. It was a photo taken from the announcement trailer at Quakecon. John Carmack has also stated that the rendering engine of Rage is not finished.

imo OpenGL > DX
Actually, 2.1 is the current development version, it's the mid-way point between the stable 2.0 and the future 3.0.
The "head in the lower left" (it's on the left, not the right) is the head from the Nvidia DX10 demo - but rendered with OpenGL. I watched a video of it (admittedly, it wasn't quite as fast as the DX10 version) OpenGL 3 will not be released for quite a while, but 2.1 came out back in August of '06.
Indeed, OpenGL > DX.