Is this possible?

[junky258]

When i played the fragment beta there were 2 different master chiefs you could spawn as (I think they were the h1 one and the HCE one). So, would it be possible for someone make it so that you could randomly spawn as an elite also on a map? This is just something i was wondering about.

[Varmint260]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the hitbox (the thing your bullets impact on that does damage) has to be the same one, and the elite is shorter than the Chief, so you could conceivably miss the elite but your bullet could impact on the hitbox anyways...

In any case, it would be a mess.

[junky258]

I see. But you know how if an Elite dosnt see you in campaign mode how they stand up straight? Could they use a model like that, butjust for all the time?

[The_Wraith]

You can't have an Elite/MC. The only reason why it works now with MC permutations (The different Chiefs) is because they have the same bone structure. You could technically make an Elite be a perm but it would look weird with the MC bones and animations wouldn't work right.

Hope that clears things up.

[Pyro13092]

or you could also change the hitbox to match the new specs:D

[The_Wraith]

To my knowledge, hitboxes don't make a difference when it comes to permutations.

[Varmint260]

Thanks for your answer Wraith. I guess I really DON'T know what I'm talking about ^_^

[Pyro13092]

You can't have an Elite/MC. The only reason why it works now with MC permutations (The different Chiefs) is because they have the same bone structure. You could technically make an Elite be a perm but it would look weird with the MC bones and animations wouldn't work right.

Hope that clears things up.
no, you can have elites as red and MC as blue, or visaversa, and then change the bone structure for the elite team

[junky258]

I have no ideadwhat you said in your first post wraith, none. Say it in non-having to be smart ishness. Please.

[The_Wraith]

no, you can have elites as red and MC as blue, or visaversa, and then change the bone structure for the elite team No you can't. You can only have one Biped in MP. It's hardcoded.

What CMT uses currently for their bipeds is permutations. An Elite and MC have different Biped bone structures, so permutations won't work between them.

[Varmint260]

What he means is the Spartans and the Elites HAVE to have the same animations but the Elite is a completely different-looking biped so the animations would be totally messed up (like running and holding guns and stuff).

[Pyro13092]

No you can't. You can only have one Biped in MP. It's hardcoded.
this is true but you can get very complicated and recode it in a way like i did with my MC/Grunt map

[junky258]

Oh. That makes sense. Well if anyone finds a way to do something like that, and puts it in a map, tell me. It would be fun to shoot elites AND spartans at the same time.

[The_Wraith]

this is true but you can get very complicated and recode it in a way like i did with my MC/Grunt map
You can't recode anything that's hardcoded. If we could then we would have implemented dual wielding, vehicle jacking and the like a long time ago.

[Pyro13092]

You can't recode anything that's hardcoded.
yes you can but it is very complicated and requires a special program

[The_Wraith]

yes you can but it is very complicated and requires a special program You must be a genius then. Proof of your claim?

[Pyro13092]

You must be a genius then. Proof of your claim?
i think i posted a "how to" at halomaps.org

[The_Wraith]

i think i posted a "how to" at halomaps.org Link please.

[Pyro13092]

Link please.
http://hce.halomaps.org/

[The_Wraith]

http://hce.halomaps.org/ Wow...I think I know what the URL for Halomaps is. I'm talking about your tutorial on how to recode Halo's hardcoded parts.

[Pyro13092]

Wow...I think I know what the URL for Halomaps is. I'm talking about your tutorial on how to recode Halo's hardcoded parts.
you don't recode halo in it self all you do is change the map

try using HaloMapTools, thats what i think i used

[The_Wraith]

you don't recode halo in it self all you do is change the map

try using HaloMapTools, thats what i think i used Wth are you talking about, HMT is for Halo PC modding. All it's good for pretty much, is meta swapping and the like.

Oh and your exact words were this:



yes you can but it is very complicated and requires a special program

[Pyro13092]

Wth are you talking about, HMT is for Halo PC modding. All it's good for pretty much, is meta swapping and the like.
only if your not using it to it's fullest

[Varmint260]

Wraith, just ignore him, he's avoiding sending you the link because it doesn't exist. He's just pulling your leg for fun.

[Pyro13092]

Wth are you talking about, HMT is for Halo PC modding. All it's good for pretty much, is meta swapping and the like.

Oh and your exact words were this:
yes that was what i thought untill i remberd about the halomaptools

[The_Wraith]

Wraith, just ignore him, he's avoiding sending you the link because it doesn't exist. He's just pulling your leg for fun. I know it doesn't exist. It's fun reading him try though.

HMT cannot allow Halo to use two DIFFERENT bipeds in MP. Sorry.

[Pyro13092]

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=1262

[The_Wraith]

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=1262

You just gave me a link to Jahrain's biped tutorial. All it contains is how to rig and place bipeds into Halo. GJ. :rolleyes:

[Dole]

What a noob.
If Pyro ever actually learns how to recode the game, I hope he realizes it's illegal (it is noted in pretty much the first paragraph of Halo's EULA).