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STLRamsFan
November 27th, 2007, 01:37 PM
As much as I'm not a fan of the Redskins, losing a player is always a sad thing:


MIAMI -- Pro Bowl safety Sean Taylor (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6764) died Tuesday after he was shot in his home by an apparent intruder, leaving the Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) in mourning for a teammate who seemed to have reordered his life since becoming a father.

The 24-year-old player died at Jackson Memorial Hospital, where he had been airlifted after the shooting early Monday, family friend Richard Sharpstein said. Sharpstein said Taylor's father informed him of the death at about 5:30 a.m.

"His father called and said he was with Christ and he cried and thanked me," said Sharpstein, Taylor's former lawyer. "It's a tremendously sad and unnecessary event. He was a wonderful, humble, talented young man, and had a huge life in front of him. Obviously God had other plans."

A string of mourners, including Taylor's father, visited the player's home and embraced outside. Authorities entered the home, but it was unclear what they were doing.

"This is the worst imaginable tragedy," Redskins owner Daniel Snyder said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with Sean's family."

Redskins teammate Clinton Portis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5937) also played with Taylor at the University of Miami. He had sensed a new maturity in his close friend.

"It's hard to expect a man to grow up overnight," Portis said. "But ever since he had his child, it was like a new Sean, and everybody around here knew it. He was always smiling, always happy, always talking about his child."

In a statement, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the entire league was saddened by Taylor's death.

"We extend our heartfelt sympathy to Sean's family, friends, teammates, and the Redskins' organization. This is a terrible tragedy involving the loss of a young man who leaves behind many people struggling to understand it," Goodell said. "Our office is staying in close contact with the Redskins to provide all appropriate support to the club and Sean's family. We also are working to determine the facts surrounding this tragic event. We will honor the memory of Sean Taylor at all games this weekend."

Two bouquets were left by a palm tree outside a front gate of the home. Beside the mailbox, an untouched newspaper lay with news of Taylor's shooting. One bouquet was left by Luis H. Perez, who said he played football with Taylor in high school. "He never do anything to nobody, so it's a loss," Perez said.

Taylor's death comes nearly a year after Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7232) was killed in a drive-by shooting following an argument at a Denver nightclub on Jan. 1. University of Miami defensive lineman Bryan Pata was shot to death in November 2006 several miles from Taylor's home in an unsolved killing.

"I am devastated over the loss of Sean Taylor," Miami coach Randy Shannon said. "When he was a student at the University of Miami, I got to know him as a person and as a football player. He was passionate about everything he did and was a great friend to his teammates. My thoughts are with his family."

At Redskins Park in Ashburn, Va., fans began a makeshift memorial by laying flowers on a field near the front entrance. Several people paid silent respects at Taylor's parking space, a reward he received as the team's defensive player of the week in a game against Philadelphia in September.

Doctors had been encouraged late Monday when Taylor squeezed a nurse's hand, according to Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins' vice president of football operations. But Sharpstein said he was told Taylor never regained consciousness after being taken to the hospital, and he wasn't sure how he had squeezed the nurse's hand.

"Maybe he was trying to say goodbye or something," Sharpstein said.

Taylor, the fifth overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft following an All-American season at the University of Miami, was shot early Monday in the upper leg, damaging the key femoral artery and causing significant blood loss.

"According to a preliminary investigation, it appears that the victim was shot inside the home by an intruder," Miami-Dade County police said in a statement. "We do not have a subject description at this time."

The attack came just eight days after an intruder was reported at Taylor's home. Officers were sent to the home about 1:45 a.m. Monday after Taylor's girlfriend called 911.

Sharpstein said Taylor's girlfriend told him the couple was awakened by loud noises, and Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection. Someone then broke through the bedroom door and fired two shots, one missing and one hitting Taylor, Sharpstein said. Taylor's 1-year-old daughter, Jackie, was also in the house, but neither she nor Taylor's girlfriend was injured.

Police found signs of forced entry, but have not determined whether they were caused Monday or during the previous burglary.

The shooting happened in the pale yellow house Taylor bought two years ago. In last week's break-in, police said someone pried open a front window, rifled through drawers and left a kitchen knife on a bed.

"They're really sifting through that incident and today's incident," Miami-Dade Detective Mario Rachid said, "to see if there's any correlation."

Born April 1, 1983, Taylor starred as a running back and defensive back at Gulliver Prep in Miami. His father, Pedro Taylor, is police chief of Florida City.

A private man with a small inner circle, Taylor rarely granted interviews. But, behind the scenes, Taylor was described as personable and smart -- an emerging locker room leader.

"From the first day I met him, from then to now, it's just like night and day," Redskins receiver James Thrash (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4065) said Monday. "He's really got his head on his shoulders and has been doing really well as far as just being a man. It's been awesome to see that growth."

After Taylor was drafted, problems soon began. Taylor fired his agent, then skipped part of the NFL's mandatory rookie symposium, drawing a $25,000 fine. Driving home late from a party during the season, he was pulled over and charged with drunken driving. The case was dismissed in court, but by then it had become a monthslong distraction for the Redskins.

Taylor also was fined at least seven times for late hits, uniform violations and other infractions over his first three seasons, including a $17,000 penalty for spitting in the face of Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4326) during a 2006 playoff game.

Taylor endured a yearlong legal battle after he was accused in 2005 of brandishing a gun at a man during a fight over allegedly stolen all-terrain vehicles near Taylor's home. He eventually pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to 18 months' probation.

Taylor said the end of the assault case was like "a gray cloud" being lifted. It was also around the time that his daughter was born, and teammates noticed a change.

On the field, Taylor's play was often erratic. Assistant coach Gregg Williams frequently called Taylor the best athlete he'd ever coached, but nearly every big play was mitigated by a blown assignment. Taylor led the NFL in missed tackles in 2006 yet made the Pro Bowl because of his reputation as one of the hardest hitters in the league.

This year, however, Taylor was allowed to play a true free safety position, using his speed and power to chase down passes and crush would-be receivers. His five interceptions tie for the league lead in the NFC, even though he missed the last two games because of a sprained knee.

"I just take this job very seriously," Taylor said in a rare group interview during training camp. "It's almost like, you play a kid's game for a king's ransom. And if you don't take it serious enough, eventually one day you're going to say, 'Oh, I could have done this, I could have done that.'

"So I just say, 'I'm healthy right now, I'm going into my fourth year, and why not do the best that I can?' And that's whatever it is, whether it's eating right or training myself right, whether it's studying harder, whatever I can do to better myself."

Zeph
November 27th, 2007, 02:23 PM
oh god, format that quote to get rid of the triple spaces.

STLRamsFan
November 27th, 2007, 03:47 PM
Sorry about that, wasn't able to fix it as I had to find another printer as my printer broke down when I was printing a report.

Huero
November 27th, 2007, 03:54 PM
Oh, somebody died.
Oh well, it happens.

Pooky
November 27th, 2007, 04:32 PM
Oh, somebody died.
Oh well, it happens.

When you die, that's exactly what I'm going to say. Prick.

Agamemnon
November 27th, 2007, 04:51 PM
When you die, that's exactly what I'm going to say. Prick.
What would've you liked? A Steve Irwin death reaction? "Omigosh! RIP Steve Irwin! I never watched your show, but I'm hopping on the grieving wagon anyways! RIP, man, RIP!"

Pooky
November 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM
No, but something a little less outright rude would have been nice. I might have said something like 'Oh that sucks Steve Irwin died... I didn't know him but I feel for his family'.

Agamemnon
November 27th, 2007, 05:12 PM
How about for the thousands of other nameless people that die each day around the world? Why not start a thread about them and express our concern with them?

I'm not trying to attack you anything, because I get the feeling I'm coming off hostile, but what I'm protesting against is how we single out one person--an athlete no less--and then others expect to have synonymous respect for him. And again, I'm not saying any one should be more so mourned over the other, but if that's also the case, then he shouldn't be recognized as further much just because he was an all-star/celebrity.

Huero
November 27th, 2007, 05:53 PM
I was kind of half-trying to make a statement there; people die all of the time, and I'm not going to mourn over them when I don't even know them; I had never ever heard of him until now.

Prick. >:

Pooky
November 27th, 2007, 08:41 PM
How about for the thousands of other nameless people that die each day around the world? Why not start a thread about them and express our concern with them?

I'm not trying to attack you anything, because I get the feeling I'm coming off hostile, but what I'm protesting against is how we single out one person--an athlete no less--and then others expect to have synonymous respect for him. And again, I'm not saying any one should be more so mourned over the other, but if that's also the case, then he shouldn't be recognized as further much just because he was an all-star/celebrity.

No, you're not coming off hostile and I see what you're saying. Still, I believe in showing respect for the dead no matter who they are. If it was anyone else we were talking about here, my reaction would not change. We might not be able to mourn all lost but we can at least not disgrace them.

Con
November 27th, 2007, 08:44 PM
No, you're not coming off hostile and I see what you're saying. Still, I believe in showing respect for the dead no matter who they are. If it was anyone else we were talking about here, my reaction would not change. We might not be able to mourn all lost but we can at least not disgrace them.
We don't need to mourn dead bodies any more than the bodies need to be mourned. It's just human nature to feel sad when someone close to us dies. Other than that, there's no reason to feel any remorse. Anything more is for spiritual people, and we all know how spirits exist right?

Pooky
November 27th, 2007, 08:46 PM
We don't need to mourn dead bodies any more than the bodies need to be mourned. It's just human nature to feel sad when someone close to us dies. Other than that, there's no reason to feel any remorse. Anything more is for spiritual people, and we all know how spirits exist right?

I just got through saying we can't mourn everybody but we can at least be respectful. I'm not sure what post you were reading. :eyesroll:

Con
November 27th, 2007, 08:49 PM
But why do we even need to mourn everyone at all? Why do we need to be respectful at all? It's not like it matters. People can be just as opinionated of the person after he died as before he did.

Pooky
November 27th, 2007, 08:51 PM
That's exactly what it is, an opinion. If you don't agree with me that's fine, but I still think heurosam was being a jerk.

Con
November 27th, 2007, 08:52 PM
Yeah, I realize that it's nothing more than my opinion, just sharing it.

Bodzilla
November 28th, 2007, 12:59 AM
i'm with Aggy and Con on this.
Shit happens, people do die and the Sun will rise tomorrow.

Just stick to my motto "never stress about things you cant change".
I'm not going to disrespect them by Poking fun, but i'm not going to get cut about it either.

Dr Nick
November 28th, 2007, 01:20 AM
When people don't know the victim/elder/diseased mutant/etc., they don't care much when they die.

If people cared for every death out there, the world would be in a SERIOUS STATE OF FUCKING DEPRESSION.

I'm sorry for his family, the killer was a prick, but this stuff happens.

rossmum
November 28th, 2007, 04:09 AM
Never heard of him, but that's pretty terrible. Any death is, really, especially so if they leave children behind.

Huero
November 28th, 2007, 10:32 PM
I just got through saying we can't mourn everybody but we can at least be respectful. I'm not sure what post you were reading. :eyesroll:
Yeah.
I don't see how I was disrespectful at all.