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NuggetWarmer
December 13th, 2007, 01:51 AM
One thing to note, THIS IS NOT EXTRACTED FROM HALO 3, NO MATTER WHAT HDoan SAYS!

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPod.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPod2.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPod3.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPod5.jpg

I still think it needs something, besides a texture. Any suggestions?

Hickle Stine
December 13th, 2007, 02:04 AM
not that i've played halo 3, but it looks pretty nice...the front is bad though
The handle is on the wrong side. Some of those extrusions are the wrong size
missing detail in some areas oh and the smoothing seems bad to me. hey post a clay render it'll look better.
take a look:
http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/thumb/7/75/Missile_Pod.jpg/250px-Missile_Pod.jpg

NuggetWarmer
December 13th, 2007, 03:50 AM
UPDATE

I added some more details and changed some stuff also clay rendered it and new smoothing groups have been added.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPodREDO.jpg http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPodREDO2.jpg http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPodREDO3.jpg http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPod6.jpg http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPod7.jpg

Tweek
December 13th, 2007, 04:09 AM
lollin'

you don't have a freaking clue how smoothing groups work.

n00b1n8R
December 13th, 2007, 04:10 AM
in this image, the round thing inside the boxy thing looks to come out of it just a little.
http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/thumb/7/75/Missile_Pod.jpg/250px-Missile_Pod.jpg

SnaFuBAR
December 13th, 2007, 04:14 AM
don't believe it's your model. prove me wrong.
checking it out further, there's too much wrong with it to be a rip. doesn't mean that it's not your model, though. could be made by some other neophyte @ halomaps or something.

n00b1n8R
December 13th, 2007, 04:19 AM
How would he go about doing that?

Hickle Stine
December 13th, 2007, 04:40 AM
looking much better

NuggetWarmer
December 13th, 2007, 04:44 AM
lollin'

you don't have a freaking clue how smoothing groups work.

Well, fine. If it's really that annoying to you, teach me! :P


don't believe it's your model. prove me wrong.
checking it out further, there's too much wrong with it to be a rip. doesn't mean that it's not your model, though. could be made by some other neophyte @ halomaps or something.

There's nobody else on HaloMaps with a missile pod.

n00b1n8R
December 13th, 2007, 04:47 AM
Well, fine. If it's really that annoying to you, teach me! :P

I agree Tweek, a good smoothing tutorlial would help a lot of people :)

Tweek
December 13th, 2007, 05:16 AM
dude anyone who needs a TUTORIAL on smoothing doesnt deserve to use any sort of 3d application.

1 smoothes to 1, 2 smoothes to 2, 1 doesn't smooth to 2.

i can't imagine anyone needing a tutorial when you know that!

n00b1n8R
December 13th, 2007, 05:19 AM
well considering people still have trouble with it, I imagine they do.

and what happens when you smooth to 1 and 2? you of all people should know that a lot of the community suck with smoothing, and that a simple tutorial can work wonders for even seeminly simple things (eg, mass's cliff tut). why not?

Llama Juice
December 13th, 2007, 07:39 AM
TBH I didn't understand smoothing until it was explained in a tutorial. I thought those little numbered boxes were like "levels of smooth" rather than (as their name implies...) smoothing GROUPS

OmegaDragon
December 13th, 2007, 07:51 AM
Things to fix:
-smoothing errors
-There are parts that look like it was a separate model, makes it look kinda ugly.
-Would like to see a wireframe shot.

NuggetWarmer
December 13th, 2007, 01:23 PM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/WireframePod.jpgHere's the wire frame. I've brought the front part out a bit (pictures come with more updates). I need to make all the separate parts connect (how should I go about doing this?). I've worked on the smoothing errors in this one, not that you can see them. :P

By the way, Omega, Nice avatar, made me LoL when I first saw it.

ThereOnceWasAGirl
December 13th, 2007, 01:43 PM
So much poly wastage. =\ You need to allocate your detailing to the places where it needs to be. God damn, those extrusions have way too many polys (in the back) WASTER!

odseraphim
December 13th, 2007, 01:57 PM
So much poly wastage. =\ You need to allocate your detailing to the places where it needs to be. God damn, those extrusions have way too many polys (in the back) WASTER!
You're one to speak, havoc. I say it looks good, just needs some refinement. I'm waiting to see your updated version in a clay render. :)

PenGuin1362
December 13th, 2007, 02:38 PM
*insert disturbing image*

Here's the wire frame. I've brought the front part out a bit (pictures come with more updates). I need to make all the separate parts connect (how should I go about doing this?). I've worked on the smoothing errors in this one, not that you can see them. :P

By the way, Omega, Nice avatar, made me LoL when I first saw it.

oh my god i'm going to punch an infant.

HORRIBLE poly distribution. basically...start over...except plane model (http://www.moddb.com/tutorials/23868/beretta-9000-video-tutorial) it.


dude anyone who needs a TUTORIAL on smoothing doesnt deserve to use any sort of 3d application.

1 smoothes to 1, 2 smoothes to 2, 1 doesn't smooth to 2.

i can't imagine anyone needing a tutorial when you know that!^^^

JinTechk
December 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM
Looks nice, then again i can't model crap -.- so i wouldn't know... does look nice tough

supersniper
December 13th, 2007, 03:53 PM
If you can't model then how can you say it looks nice. You wouldn't know what a nice model looks like?? Please think about what you said.

NuggetWarmer
December 13th, 2007, 04:28 PM
oh my god i'm going to punch an infant.

HORRIBLE poly distribution. basically...start over...except plane model (http://www.moddb.com/tutorials/23868/beretta-9000-video-tutorial) it.

^^^

It is plane modeled... >_>

TeeKup
December 13th, 2007, 05:15 PM
The missile does not come from that extruded cross piece either.

Look at this pod:
http://lh5.google.com/terminatorazhar/Rz7luvJwniI/AAAAAAAAAow/Sr8bp7pX3k4/UB32%20Rocket%20Pod.jpg?imgmax=200

The H3 Missile pod works like that one, it comes out of the tubes on the cone structure, not the middle part.

Tweek
December 13th, 2007, 07:17 PM
It is plane modeled... >_>

it is cylinder-modelled.

duh

Donut
December 13th, 2007, 07:29 PM
lmao. and i have a missile pod too. granted it is horrible and lacks detail and just needs to be done over. for some reason i cant stand plane modeling. i find it annoying to work with although i do use it for making small parts on guns and floors on bsps

PenGuin1362
December 13th, 2007, 10:08 PM
If you can't model then how can you say it looks nice. You wouldn't know what a nice model looks like?? Please think about what you said.

you don't have to know how to model to say something looks good or bad. you have to know how to model in order to tell them how and why it's not good.



It is plane modeled... >_>

except not >_> or horribly executed.

Mass
December 13th, 2007, 11:43 PM
don't believe it's your model. prove me wrong.
checking it out further, there's too much wrong with it to be a rip. doesn't mean that it's not your model, though. could be made by some other neophyte @ halomaps or something.
Hardly anyone at halomaps could model that.

NuggetWarmer
December 14th, 2007, 02:09 AM
The missile does not come from that extruded cross piece either.

Look at this pod:
http://lh5.google.com/terminatorazhar/Rz7luvJwniI/AAAAAAAAAow/Sr8bp7pX3k4/UB32%20Rocket%20Pod.jpg?imgmax=200

The H3 Missile pod works like that one, it comes out of the tubes on the cone structure, not the middle part.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/11957008-Medium.jpg
Actually, it is crossed.

SnaFuBAR
December 14th, 2007, 02:26 AM
that's fine and dandy but the missiles still don't come out of the cross.

Leiukemia
December 14th, 2007, 02:46 AM
lollerskates
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/11957008-Medium.jpg

NuggetWarmer
December 14th, 2007, 04:50 AM
UPDATE

It still has some work to do, but here's the model so far. Constructive criticism still welcome.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/MPodredoredo2.jpg

Tweek
December 14th, 2007, 05:35 AM
nothing changed?

NuggetWarmer
December 14th, 2007, 06:31 AM
I changed the front cross part , took away some unnecessary details + polygons, moved some pieces around to make it more accurate, and made the back area shorter. I'm trying to keep it low-polygon. If you want something to change you've got to be more specific. I did what you said for the smoothing groups, and I changed the cross part. What else does it need? You've got to be more specific.

n00b1n8R
December 14th, 2007, 07:44 AM
lollerskates
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/11957008-Medium.jpg
Put the holes in it for a start.

Tweek
December 14th, 2007, 12:39 PM
:textures/bumps:

UV it, and skin it instead.

{SYS}sarge
December 14th, 2007, 03:38 PM
not that i've played halo 3, but it looks pretty nice...the front is bad though
The handle is on the wrong side. Some of those extrusions are the wrong size
missing detail in some areas oh and the smoothing seems bad to me. hey post a clay render it'll look better.
take a look:
http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/thumb/7/75/Missile_Pod.jpg/250px-Missile_Pod.jpg
IT'S A [WIP]
ofcours it's still not good

SnaFuBAR
December 14th, 2007, 03:44 PM
it doesn't have to be finished to look good. it could've been a good start, but it's not.

TeeKup
December 14th, 2007, 08:41 PM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/11957008-Medium.jpg
Actually, it is crossed.

Learn to read, I never said it wasn't crossed, I said the missiles are not launched from there. :I

NuggetWarmer
December 14th, 2007, 08:49 PM
Learn to read, I never said it wasn't crossed, I said the missiles are not launched from there. :I

I just misunderstood what you were saying. By the way, we've already covered this and I've already changed the model.

AAA
December 14th, 2007, 09:23 PM
So...there are holes in it now?...Cause, from the past 2 or 3 pages of posts, that's what they've been trying to tell you =\

It would make everything loook better if you added the holes in on the model...Still needs a lot of work, but it's looking good. :)

NuggetWarmer
December 14th, 2007, 10:59 PM
So...there are holes in it now?...Cause, from the past 2 or 3 pages of posts, that's what they've been trying to tell you =\

It would make everything loook better if you added the holes in on the model...Still needs a lot of work, but it's looking good. :)

I'm not going to make holes in it. Instead I'm just going to put them on the texture. >_>

itszutak
December 15th, 2007, 02:22 AM
I've always wondered what the point of that lego +-rod was. <_<

Con
December 15th, 2007, 02:27 AM
I've always wondered what the point of that lego +-rod was. <_<
.

n00b1n8R
December 15th, 2007, 05:56 AM
that's because IT'S THE KEY THAT UNLOCKS YOUR DEATH!!

/rvb reference

ontopic: Good luck with skinning it, hopefully you'll do a good job :)

JinTechk
December 15th, 2007, 08:27 AM
well to msot people it doesn't even need to be a 1 on 1 scale and 100% exact copy aslong as it plays and feels the same i geuse, eye candy is always nice but not always needed.

Like the model so far tough.

Phobias
December 15th, 2007, 08:30 AM
^ his sig says it all.

JinTechk
December 15th, 2007, 08:47 AM
lol did not see it comming, but yeah i can't model that good so i got low standards ^_^;

LiquidDragon
December 15th, 2007, 02:27 PM
It looks good, cant wait to have a go, and Hi :D