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Mr Buckshot
January 31st, 2009, 10:39 PM
I would have to agree with Xet, even a car as "powerful" as a Toyota Camry would suffice as a cop car even in speedy situations. In fact the Camry probably is easier to control and is less likely than a Lambo to become scrap metal should it ever crash. I mean most of the U.S. and Canada use Ford Crown Vics that have very weak V8s (how the hell can it only get 250 hp with 4.6 liters) as cop cars.

And as long as you remember to turn on your siren, people are going to get out of your way to give you a clear path to put the pedal to the metal, so even if your 0-60 time is like 7 or 8 seconds, you'll have ample opportunity to reach such a speed.

Not exactly high performing, but it's cool:
http://www.partstrain.com/images/The_Auto_Blog/2006.AlfaRomeo.Spider.jpg

I hope this comes to the U.S./Canada market.

Xetsuei
January 31st, 2009, 10:48 PM
Just to let you know Xet, its possible to beat the speed camera.

Possible? You have to be going pretty fast, 170mph+ range.

On a side note, as quoted from Top Gear, "You first have to own an Alfa Romeo to be a petrolhead."

Snowy
February 1st, 2009, 12:00 AM
Top gear is so much better than fifth gear.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Xetsuei
February 1st, 2009, 12:26 AM
Fifth Gear is more factual, and is more about cars then challanges and other things Top Gear has. Top Gear is the way petrolheads feel about the cars, and is also much more entertaining.

Mr Buckshot
February 1st, 2009, 01:37 AM
http://www.idcow.net/idcow/products/etl2073_007.jpg

This ain't no ordinary Vanquish, it's got missiles, auto-targeting hood-mounted shotguns, ejector seat, active camo, thermal imaging monitor, tires with retractable spikes, and of course shitloads of bulletproofing material.

http://magazin.autoscout24.de/gallery_new/items/ga_Neuheiten/ga_Vergleichstests/ga_Audi_S8_vs_BMW_760Li/001.jpg

No, Xetsuei, these are not run-of-the-mill cars. The one on the left has a W12 engine, the one on the right has a V12 engine. Both displace 6.0 liters and produce around 450 hp. Natural stuff too, no turbocharging crap. Basically, these are the few "practical" twelve-cylinder cars out there. TWELVE cylinders, man.

http://images.autocatch.com/boo130_251107_17-80x60.jpg - see this is a manly V12 engined vehicle.

The "V12" badge on the side of the BMW can be seen in this shot if you squint.

In Canada their prices exceed $150k, comes close to $190k with options (there aren't many options though, almost everything is standard on twelve-cylinder models).

Xetsuei
February 1st, 2009, 01:47 AM
They may not be run of the mill, but they sure look like it.

Mr Buckshot
February 1st, 2009, 02:18 AM
Well you see many of the luxury vehicles you describe as run-of-the-mill will have a high-performance variant that definitely doesn't fall into that category. Most BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi models are like that - the standard ones are fairly common but the special big-engine ones are considered exotic.

Btw, check out www.exoticspotter.com (http://www.exoticspotter.com) to see exotics spotted in your city.

for example:
http://exoticspotter.com/bt000113/bt000113_355720.jpg

You said you live in Salem, here's an exotic in Salem.

http://exoticspotter.com/bt000181/bt000181_709842.JPG

The Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace car spotted in Vancouver.

Rob Oplawar
February 1st, 2009, 02:22 AM
I see Lotus... Lotusi? Lotuses? Lota?
Whatever, fuck the plural, I see them all the time around where my parents live.

Mr Buckshot
February 1st, 2009, 03:14 AM
I see Lotus... Lotusi? Lotuses? Lota?
Whatever, fuck the plural, I see them all the time around where my parents live.

Lotuses aren't that expensive given their ultralight bodies, and low-displacement engines (which don't matter due to the light weight). I think the Elise goes for 61 grand in Canada, which is steep but certainly FAR more affordable than a Lamborghini's extreme six-figure price. The Lotus's Canadian price is only a few thousand higher than that of my Toyota Highlander Hybrid.

Although Lotuses are powered by 1.8L or 2.2L engines, they get 0-60 times of under 5 seconds due to the aerodynamic shells and very light weight. Of course, they aren't as crash worthy as other sports cars...

TeeKup
February 1st, 2009, 09:20 PM
Now here's a cop car:
http://www.carzi.com/wp-content/uploads/banner-carbon-motors-police-car.jpg
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e: can't seem to find good pics or video. look up carbon motors police car, cause i'm too lazy.

The Carbon Motors E7 custom police car. Amazing vehicle.

Mr Buckshot
February 1st, 2009, 10:54 PM
lawlz coach doors ^

Con
February 5th, 2009, 01:34 AM
http://vralak.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/attachment.jpeg

Saw one of these today :haw:

Mr Buckshot
February 5th, 2009, 01:41 AM
http://vralak.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/attachment.jpeg

Saw one of these today :haw:

Haha, I love the GTR too, but it's actually not really exotic, seen at least two a week in Vancouver. In Japan and Singapore I see lots of these beasts, actually I've seen more right-hand-drive than left-hand-drive models in my travels so far.

http://www.ssip.net/upload/bmw-z8-front-1_116.jpg

If you've seen The World Is Not Enough, you'll recognize this car. It's the rarest production BMW so far, have only seen ONE in Vancouver in 5 years, whereas pretty much all the other BMW models (except the high-performance variants) are common.

BMW Z8, has the same 4.9L V8 engine as the previous-gen E39 M5.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Spyker.jpg/250px-Spyker.jpg

The beautiful Spyker C8. Dutch brand. It uses an Audi 4.2L V8.

This isn't a car, rather this powers many nice cars:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Volkswagen_W12.jpg/450px-Volkswagen_W12.jpg

Volkswagen's flagship W12 engine, mostly seen in Audi A8s and VW Phaetons.

Con
February 5th, 2009, 11:03 AM
pft, it's pretty rare in victoria. I hardly ever get to see any cool cars :( My teacher had a corvette, but he's traded that in for:

http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files_old/4/6-2007-mercedes-slr-722-edition.jpg

I swear hes a fucking drug dealer on the side.

Cojafoji
February 5th, 2009, 02:59 PM
pft, it's pretty rare in victoria. I hardly ever get to see any cool cars :( My teacher had a corvette, but he's traded that in for:

I swear hes a fucking drug dealer on the side.
I cannot fathom a reason as to why, but I find that car, completely and totally disgusting.

RickYng
February 5th, 2009, 03:27 PM
The German police use more practical but still overpowered and luxurious cars though.
For your information: They change the brand every few years to avoid advertisement. Even Opel had their police vehicles.

TeeKup
February 5th, 2009, 04:32 PM
I cannot fathom a reason as to why, but I find that car, completely and totally disgusting.

It's that nose thing. It just doesn't fit.

Snowy
February 5th, 2009, 06:17 PM
pft, it's pretty rare in victoria. I hardly ever get to see any cool cars :( My teacher had a corvette, but he's traded that in for:

http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files_old/4/6-2007-mercedes-slr-722-edition.jpg

I swear hes a fucking drug dealer on the side.
It's too "flat". Looks almost like a shoebox.

Xetsuei
February 5th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Mercedes completely changed everything that made a McLaren a McLaren. I was really disappointed when the SLR came out, and still am.

From

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5042/mal9321ka7.jpg

to

http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files_old/4/6-2007-mercedes-slr-722-edition.jpg

Seriously, wtf.

E: And the Nissan GTR sucks. Main reason: It can't reach it's actual performance figures without turning traction control off and turning launch control on. I know, you're thinking "wtf so", well if you turn traction control off or turn launch control on it completely voids the car's warranty. I don't think they should be allowed to post those figures if turning those features off(traction)/on(launch control) voids the car's warranty. I have a number of other reasons why it sucks, but I'll leave it at that. And also Connor, the engine is not over 4 liters.

Rob Oplawar
February 5th, 2009, 06:41 PM
it looks to me like those are intended to be two entirely different cars, not two models of the same car.
Also, I would much, much rather have the second one. The first would probably be more fun to drive, but the second looks a lot nicer to me. Much more elegant.

Mr Buckshot
February 5th, 2009, 06:45 PM
The SLR looks a bit Batmobile-ey from the front (not referring to the Tumbler).

Xetsuei
February 5th, 2009, 06:49 PM
it looks to me like those are intended to be two entirely different cars, not two models of the same car.
Also, I would much, much rather have the second one. The first would probably be more fun to drive, but the second looks a lot nicer to me. Much more elegant.

They are not intended to be the same car. But, McLaren only makes one model of car at a time, and the SLR was a HUGE step down from the F1. The SLR was made after McLaren was bought by Mercedes.

I don't know what you mean by nicer, the F1 has all the fun stuff (GPS nav, phones, radio, 6 disk CD changer, surround sound system, leather seats, etc etc) and also has 3 seats instead of two. The F1 is also very small (smaller than a Toyota Prius), so you wouldn't be worried about bumping it on things, and parking is very easy. I don't know anyone in their right mind who would prefer an SLR over an F1.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6368/mclaren4449061696d413f0gb7.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9545/mf1linteriorkw6.jpg

Rob Oplawar
February 5th, 2009, 06:58 PM
They are not intended to be the same car.
Oh, I misunderstood what you were saying. :P

But, McLaren only makes one model of car at a time, and the SLR was a HUGE step down from the F1. The SLR was made after McLaren was bought by Mercedes.

I don't know what you mean by nicer, the F1 has all the fun stuff (GPS nav, phones, radio, 6 disk CD changer, surround sound system, leather seats, etc etc) and also has 3 seats instead of two. The F1 is also very small (smaller than a Toyota Prius), so you wouldn't be worried about bumping it on things, and parking is very easy. I don't know anyone in their right mind who would prefer an SLR over an F1.

Well, I'd also much rather drive a Subaru than a Lambo. The Lambo's undoubtedly cooler looking, but the Sub fits my image. That's what I'm talking about. That F1 just looks gaudy and ugly to me.

Mr Buckshot
February 5th, 2009, 07:06 PM
pft, it's pretty rare in victoria. I hardly ever get to see any cool cars :( My teacher had a corvette, but he's traded that in for:

http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files_old/4/6-2007-mercedes-slr-722-edition.jpg

I swear hes a fucking drug dealer on the side.

lol I think so too.

In the lower mainland of BC, teachers have great pay, they start from low-$80k per year, principals can make $120k or more in some schools. In my school, about 1/4 of the teachers drive nice cars like BMW, Mercedes - typically the unmarried ones though. Around $85k/year is quite enough for one single person to live a flashy life but when kids are factored in your spending priorities get tighter, the quality of the car becomes far less important as your salary has to provide for more people. Being a teacher is a good job anyway, just that it requires some personal qualities that I lack so I probably can't be a teacher.

On topic again:
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/minority_report_lexus.jpg

Concept car from Minority Report (great movie btw). I don't think this car even uses a gas engine (it's 2054) but it's pretty nice. I have a toy model too :P.

Rob Oplawar
February 5th, 2009, 07:14 PM
Been arguing with Xet. It came out that he thinks the Bugatti Veyron is ugly. I'm sorry, I don't care if I get a warning for this: Somebody that retarded is not worth my time.

Mr Buckshot
February 5th, 2009, 07:53 PM
I don't like the Bugatti Veyron either, but we're all entitled to our own opinions of cars.

A word on BMW, Mercedes, and Audi:
yeah most of them are run-of-the-mill cars, I see all of them every day in Vancouver except the Audi R8, Mercedes SLR, and BMW Z8, but these common ones tend to have special high performance variants that ain't run of the mill. Basically an exotic-car engine hidden inside a run-of-the-mill body.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/2007_BMW_Alpina_B7_E66_Sedan.jpg/800px-2007_BMW_Alpina_B7_E66_Sedan.jpg

BMW doesn't make an "M" version of its flagship 7-series saloon, but Alpina makes a modified 7-series (Alpina B7, only seen it twice in 5 years) with a supercharged 500-hp 4.4L V8 engine. Definitely not a common sight. This is the only Alpina-on-BMW model you'll see in North America, as the Alpina B5 would compete with BMW's own M5, the B3 with the M3, etc.

Xetsuei
February 5th, 2009, 07:55 PM
I can sort of understand where you're coming from Buckshot. You like all the luxury and looks of the cars, and the surprise you get when you push down the petal because you have no idea of the monster lurking under the hood?

Mr Buckshot
February 5th, 2009, 07:59 PM
I can sort of understand where you're coming from Buckshot. You like all the luxury and looks of the cars, and the surprise you get when you push down the petal because you have no idea of the monster lurking under the hood?

Exactly! See, I tend to favour these high-performance "discreet cars," my favorite being the BMW M5. So yeah on the outside it's the same as the regular 5-series, except for badging and some fiery decals, and the interior is quite similar too. But start the engine, step on the gas, and it's one hell of an experience.

Lexus has been following this trend too, but it doesn't appeal to you as they've been using hybrid systems to try to achieve the same effect. Yeah the combined hybrid output is definitely no slouch from these Lexus hybrids, but it's mated to a Continuously Variable Transmission and not a manual, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Audi's S5 coupe is also good. The A5 is run-of-the-mill in some places, but the S5 packs in a charged-up V8 to prove its brawn.

edit: This car made me like GM:
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll396/Julius348/Carscoop_cadillac_CTS-V_0.jpg

Cadillac CTS-V, 6.2L V8, 550 hp. Too bad its sales (even the regular CTS) are lagging behind foreign competition. It's a great car with great cabin tech gadgets.

Snowy
February 8th, 2009, 04:28 PM
0-60 in one second.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/carroll/bal-md.fastcar07feb07,0,787895,full.story
2400 HP.
:eek:

Hotrod
February 8th, 2009, 05:09 PM
0-60 in one second.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/carroll/bal-md.fastcar07feb07,0,787895,full.story
2400 HP.
:eek:
Damn, that's one nice car... Not much more needs to be said.

Xetsuei
February 8th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Been arguing with Xet. It came out that he thinks the Bugatti Veyron is ugly. I'm sorry, I don't care if I get a warning for this: Somebody that retarded is not worth my time.

Yeah, the Bugatti Veyron is very ugly.

Hotrod
February 8th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Hey, everybody has their own opinion, and should be respected no matter what they think. I, for one, really like the Veyron, but if Xet doesn't like it, that's up to him.

Xetsuei
February 8th, 2009, 07:37 PM
http://www.vistawallpaper.com/data/media/11/Bugatti_Veyron_2405.jpg

Lol. Bugatti must think we're all blind.

E: Hotrod please stop using so many commas.

Jean-Luc
February 8th, 2009, 07:43 PM
Meh, I'm not a huge fan of the Veyron either. Audi R8 is where it's at:

http://images.shareordie.in/uploads/2008/04/2008-abt-audi-r8-front-angle-lights-1280x960.jpg



<3

Xetsuei
February 8th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Damn.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/662/eba4127b8a29ue9.jpg

Photo I took of the engine at the Portland Auto Show.

kenney001
February 8th, 2009, 08:34 PM
I literally just saw one about an hour ago driving down the road. If I was driving I definitely would have caused an accident...It was soo pretty.

Bodzilla
February 8th, 2009, 08:41 PM
how can you people not like the Veyron D:?

it's fucking menacing. it's not sposed to be a car of curves and pointy angles.
It's a mother fucking hi speed death machine.

seriously you could photo shop mutha fucking swords embedded in the Rims (like the roman chariot's) and it wouldnt look out of place.
It's a fucking mean machine.

Xetsuei
February 8th, 2009, 09:10 PM
It's just plainly not designed well.

*The car is extremely heavy (4160lbs !).
*The engine is extremely large (8L W16), and has 4 turbos on it. Yet, it only outputs 987HP (No, not 1001HP, it outputs 1001PS which people mistake for HP) and 920 ft·lbf torque. So the engine is inefficient and doesn't convert fuel to power well. On the other hand, look at the SSC Ultimate Aero TT. It's engine is only a twin turbo 6.35 V8, and outputs 1287HP and 1112 ft·lbf torque.
*Because of it's inefficiency the engine gets hot, very hot. So hot the car has more radiators than most homes have. Again, bad designing.
*It's ugly. Good lord, what was Bugatti thinking?

So basically, it's just a brick with a huge engine. If you want a high speed death machine, you need to look at the McLaren F1. No power steering, no electronic assists, no ABS brakes, and it weighs only 2500lbs. Quoted from Jay Leno "Oh man, if you lose the thing you're screwed....you're incredibly screwed. So just don't lose it."

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5042/mal9321ka7.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/9479/f1black3.jpg

Jean-Luc
February 8th, 2009, 09:14 PM
I disagree with 2/3 of the above statements.

The car is designed extremely well, otherwise it wouldn't be the fastest roadcar available. There's a reason for all the streamline on the body. As for the weight on the car, 2 tons is reasonable considering the horsepower it puts out.


I do, however, find the car ugly, but there is no arguing...it's a hell of a machine.

Limited
February 8th, 2009, 09:14 PM
I agree Bugatti is pretty ugly, not ugliest car ever but its definitely not as eye pleasing as most other cars.

I think they went with the fact it goes so fast people will hardly see it standing still hah.

To me it looks like they took the audi R8 and just slapped on some ugly fat extras.

Xetsuei
February 8th, 2009, 09:17 PM
I disagree with 2/3 of the above statements.

The car is designed extremely well, otherwise it wouldn't be the fastest roadcar available. There's a reason for all the streamline on the body. As for the weight on the car, 2 tons is reasonable considering the horsepower it puts out.


I do, however, find the car ugly, but there is no arguing...it's a hell of a machine.

You can't disagree with 2/3 of the statements because 2/3 of the statements are fact. No, it is not designed well. The body is not streamlined, not by a long shot. The drag coefficient is an amazing 0.41-0.36, which is the worst there's been on a supercar in a long time. The only thing propelling it to those speeds is the engine.

E: To put in perspective, this car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_740) and this car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_CX) have the same drag coefficient as the Veyron. Not convinced yet? I'll be happy to continue with this if you wish.

Rob Oplawar
February 8th, 2009, 10:12 PM
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/9479/f1black3.jpg
ugly
http://images.shareordie.in/uploads/2008/04/2008-abt-audi-r8-front-angle-lights-1280x960.jpg
ugly
http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files_old/4/6-2007-mercedes-slr-722-edition.jpg
ugly
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/minority_report_lexus.jpg
ugly

http://www.bugatti-trust.co.uk/moxiepix/b1_25.jpg
gorgeous

Limited
February 8th, 2009, 10:17 PM
What do you think about this rob

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/morgan-aeromax-400x300.jpg
http://talkmorgan.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/morgan-aeromax-3.jpg

I think its ugly as hell but richard hammond has one :D

How bout this Koenigsegg rob, I think its fucking amazing

http://www.zcars.com.au/images/koenigsegg-ccx-limited-edition12.jpg
http://www.zcars.com.au/images/koenigsegg-ccx-limited-edition1.jpg

Mr Buckshot
February 9th, 2009, 12:31 AM
Batman should use the Koenigsegg that Limited posted. It does resemble the Batmobile from Tim Burton's 1989 film, to an extent. Or maybe that's just me.

http://autoshow.roadfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/IMG_3381.JPG

Toyota's 5.0L V8 engine with 389 hp natural output. One Lexus model (LS 600h) slaps in a couple electric motors to boost performance to around 438 hp, potentially could hit 450. The Lexus IS-F doesn't use the hybrid system, it sticks with the engine and nothing more, don't worry, but it still competes well with BMW M3, Audi S4, etc.

Ferrari 612:
http://www.ssip.net/upload/ferrari-612-scaglietti-front-1_97.jpg

These are the cars used in the 007 video game Everything or Nothing:
http://www.cgw.com/Media/PublicationsArticle/151570.jpg

The Aston is a rare gem. The Cayenne - well, in Vancouver, the regular Cayenne and the Cayenne S are run-of-the-mill cars, but the Cayenne GT and the Cayenne Turbo are considered exotic, hardly see any of them (truly high-performance SUVs). The bike...well it doesn't qualify as a car, but the levels featuring that bike were pure win.

Bodzilla
February 9th, 2009, 01:02 AM
Toyota's 5.0L V8 engine with 389 hp natural output. One Lexus model (LS 600h) slaps in a couple electric motors to boost performance to around 438 hp, potentially could hit 450. The Lexus IS-F doesn't use the hybrid system, it sticks with the engine and nothing more, don't worry, but it still competes well with BMW M3, Audi S4, etc.
Enormously un-cool.


(truly high-performance SUVs)
wat.

Bodzilla
February 9th, 2009, 01:03 AM
You can't disagree with 2/3 of the statements because 2/3 of the statements are fact. No, it is not designed well. The body is not streamlined, not by a long shot. The drag coefficient is an amazing 0.41-0.36, which is the worst there's been on a supercar in a long time. The only thing propelling it to those speeds is the engine.

E: To put in perspective, this car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_740) and this car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_CX) have the same drag coefficient as the Veyron. Not convinced yet? I'll be happy to continue with this if you wish.
LALALALA I"M NOT LISTENING.

i love the bugatti despite it's faults.
/fanboy

Xetsuei
February 9th, 2009, 01:08 AM
LALALALA I"M NOT LISTENING.

i love the bugatti despite it's faults.
/fanboy

I can understand that.

E: Buckshot, in the SUV pic, wtf is all that plastic doing in the engine bay?

Rob Oplawar
February 9th, 2009, 12:30 PM
You can't disagree with 2/3 of the statements because 2/3 of the statements are fact. No, it is not designed well. The body is not streamlined, not by a long shot. The drag coefficient is an amazing 0.41-0.36, which is the worst there's been on a supercar in a long time. The only thing propelling it to those speeds is the engine.

E: To put in perspective, this car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_740) and this car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_CX) have the same drag coefficient as the Veyron. Not convinced yet? I'll be happy to continue with this if you wish.

So, it manages to outperform most supercars while having a much more refined interior, having generally better reliability, and looking much more elegant and beautiful than they do.
In other words, most supercars are racecars and look the part, and yet the Veyron outperforms them without looking like it's straining to squeeze every last bit of performance out of modern technology, sacrificing looks and comfort along the way.
In other other words, the Veyron could perform even better if they pushed it even further like so many other supercars, but Bugatti instead decided they wanted to make a nice car.

I feel I have to elaborate on what I'm saying. Performance is nice. Performance is cool. Absurdly high performance supercars that push the limits and lose weight and drag at every opportunity are cool and beautiful in their own way. But the Veyron is in a different class of beauty altogether- it's classical, elegant, effortless beauty, built for the sake of itself more than for speed, and the fact that it performs as well as it does is nothing short of astonishing.

e:
E: Buckshot, in the SUV pic, wtf is all that plastic doing in the engine bay?
Maintenance? Feh! It's more important that things be nice and tidy! :S

Xetsuei
February 9th, 2009, 01:25 PM
So, it manages to outperform most supercars while having a much more refined interior, having generally better reliability, and looking much more elegant and beautiful than they do.
In other words, most supercars are racecars and look the part, and yet the Veyron outperforms them without looking like it's straining to squeeze every last bit of performance out of modern technology, sacrificing looks and comfort along the way.
In other other words, the Veyron could perform even better if they pushed it even further like so many other supercars, but Bugatti instead decided they wanted to make a nice car.

I feel I have to elaborate on what I'm saying. Performance is nice. Performance is cool. Absurdly high performance supercars that push the limits and lose weight and drag at every opportunity are cool and beautiful in their own way. But the Veyron is in a different class of beauty altogether- it's classical, elegant, effortless beauty, built for the sake of itself more than for speed, and the fact that it performs as well as it does is nothing short of astonishing.


You're just so wrong it's not even funny. The fact they Veyron goes as fast as it does isn't surprising, look at the size of the fucking engine. Other supercars may not be as fast in a straight line, but on a track they're much faster. Hell, look at the Nurburgring times for the Veyron. Complete shit. Other supercars only need half the power, and do the part much better thanks to better designing. I'm not sure if they tried to design it awfully, but managing to get 4000+ lbs of weight is pretty fucking astonishing. The interior is bland and plain. I have no idea why you think it has good reliability, go research more. And no, the Bugatti does not look good. I'd rather look at a picture of vomit or excrement rather than the Veyron.

Bugatti couldn't make it a better car, they're not even making money off of it at this point. If they wanted to make it "nice" they would of made it lighter, better looking, and with a better interior. I'm not quite sure why you think this car is good. Bugatti let some 3 year olds design the whole thing, and just slapped a huge engine on it. It's completely awful. The only thing it's got on it's part is straightline performance, once again thanks to it's huge engine.

http://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_2006_Los_Angeles_Auto_Show_Coverage_13z+2007_B ugatti_Veyron+Interior_View_Front_Cabin_Dashboard_ Center_Console_Steering_Wheel.jpg

TBH, I want my "ultra-high performance supercar"s interior and exterior to be less awful. Never would I consider buying a Veyron mainly considering how it looks. Not to mention all the awful engineering behind it.

kenney001
February 9th, 2009, 05:49 PM
You're just so wrong it's not even funny. The fact they Veyron goes as fast as it does isn't surprising, look at the size of the fucking engine. Other supercars may not be as fast in a straight line, but on a track they're much faster. Hell, look at the Nurburgring times for the Veyron. Complete shit. Other supercars only need half the power, and do the part much better thanks to better designing. I'm not sure if they tried to design it awfully, but managing to get 4000+ lbs of weight is pretty fucking astonishing. The interior is bland and plain. I have no idea why you think it has good reliability, go research more. And no, the Bugatti does not look good. I'd rather look at a picture of vomit or excrement rather than the Veyron.

Bugatti couldn't make it a better car, they're not even making money off of it at this point. If they wanted to make it "nice" they would of made it lighter, better looking, and with a better interior. I'm not quite sure why you think this car is good. Bugatti let some 3 year olds design the whole thing, and just slapped a huge engine on it. It's completely awful. The only thing it's got on it's part is straightline performance, once again thanks to it's huge engine.

TBH, I want my "ultra-high performance supercar"s interior and exterior to be less awful. Never would I consider buying a Veyron mainly considering how it looks. Not to mention all the awful engineering behind it.

Which is why it had held the world record for fastest production vehicle for how many years before the shelby? It weighs 4000+ lbs because it has two fucking v8 motors in a w16 setup, and is not a stipped-down hunk of metal and motor like most other supercars.

Besides, it looks bitchin' and doesnt follow the general supercar blueprint like the koenigsegg, saleen s7, mclaren f1, etc.

Rob Oplawar
February 9th, 2009, 05:50 PM
I'm not used to people having such radically different tastes than me. Nearly every aspect of the Veyron is just gorgeous to me. IMHO, it's a work of art. I'm inclined to call you an idiot for having a different opinion than me on a purely qualitative subject, but I've already done that, so...

I'm just gonna go on letting it be my favorite car, and you can go on being hurtful. :'(

kenney001
February 9th, 2009, 06:02 PM
I'm not used to people having such radically different tastes than me. Nearly every aspect of the Veyron is just gorgeous to me. IMHO, it's a work of art. I'm inclined to call you an idiot for having a different opinion than me on a purely qualitative subject, but I've already done that, so...

I'm just gonna go on letting it be my favorite car, and you can go on being hurtful. :'(

You sir have good tastes

Rob, how the hell you can call the mclaren f1 and audi R8 ugly is beyond me. They have to be two of the greatest looking cars out there...

TeeKup
February 9th, 2009, 06:06 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Kunei_LP/FE-SEP3/112_0712_05zmazda_furai_conceptfron.jpg

Xetsuei
February 9th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Which is why it had held the world record for fastest production vehicle for how many years before the shelby? It weighs 4000+ lbs because it has two fucking v8 motors in a w16 setup, and is not a stipped-down hunk of metal and motor like most other supercars.

Besides, it looks bitchin' and doesnt follow the general supercar blueprint like the koenigsegg, saleen s7, mclaren f1, etc.

Rofl, it held it for 2 years before the Shelby came along. Once they find a longer piece of road, the Shelby's record won't be beaten for a looooooong time. But that's besides the point, the McLaren held it for 12 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W16_engine

I'm not sure why you think the engine is heavy unless you have an actual number, but generally aluminum alloy engines aren't that heavy. What makes other cars light is the use of lighter materials such as CFRP (carbon fiber reinforced plastic), in which I don't think they used any of on the Veyron. Yet, they still managed to make it the most expensive car currently in production. Yeah, it does follow it's own blueprint, which consequently is horrible.

E: And the Bugatti also has 7 gears, while the McLaren and Ultimate Aero have 6.

kenney001
February 9th, 2009, 06:33 PM
hmm...I thought it was longer than that...

Rob Oplawar
February 9th, 2009, 06:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Kunei_LP/FE-SEP3/112_0712_05zmazda_furai_conceptfron.jpg
It looks like a hotwheels car. It's cool, but I'd never drive it. I appreciate subtlety, and cars like that have none.

Mr Buckshot
February 9th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Rob, if you want a car that's high-performance yet remains subtle, look for a car with one of these badges:
http://www.zerotohundred.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bmw_logo_m_logo.jpg<-BMW

http://www.cartype.com/pics/60/small/audi_s-line_emblem_1.jpg<-Audi

http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/amg_logo.gif<-Mercedes Benz

Any BMW with an M badge, Audi with an S or RS badge, or Mercedes with an AMG badge is basically a run-of-the-mill, semi-discreet exterior hiding an exotic car engine. Heck the V10 engine in the Audi S6 is derived from the Lambo Gallardo engine.

No, the badge has to be factory fitted and accurate, any user rebadging doesn't count. I've seen way too many regular BMWs being rebadged to fake M models by people who want to show off.

e.g.
http://www.babez.de/bmw/m52004/newtitel.jpg

V10 engine, baby.

Xetsuei
February 9th, 2009, 07:48 PM
Gonna post an engine instead of a car this time:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2822/mclarenenginefy6.jpg

The BMW S70/2. Powered all variants of the McLaren F1 (Road car, GT, LM, GTR, Longtail) and is still the most powerful naturally aspirated production car engine at 691BHP.

Mr Buckshot
February 9th, 2009, 07:51 PM
Yay for once I'm not the only guy who may post an engine in favor of a whole car :D

That engine looks hawt. 691 horses? Damn...

http://www.autotrend.com/pic/9711.jpg

Mercedes 5.5L Biturbo V12 engine producing over 500hp I think (can't quite remember), used in Mercedes S600, SL600, CL600, and Maybachs.

ThePlague
February 10th, 2009, 05:22 PM
I would make love to this car:

http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pictures/Cars/chrysler/me412_concept/chrysler_me412_concept-3.jpg


Chrysler ME 412 bitches!

Xetsuei
February 10th, 2009, 06:16 PM
http://www.liowallpapers.com/wallpapers/chrysler/Chrysler-ME412-002.jpg

Yes it is quite a nice looking car...

TeeKup
February 10th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Too bad that's all it will ever be.

Xetsuei
February 10th, 2009, 06:48 PM
What do you mean by that? Sure, it's a concept, but it's hella powerful/fast.

Rob Oplawar
February 10th, 2009, 06:55 PM
lol hella. I find myself caring less and less about your opinion.

Mr Buckshot
February 10th, 2009, 06:58 PM
Anyone watched the movie XXX State of the Union?

I like that car (the one used to chase the train at the end), plz tell me what it was.

TeeKup
February 10th, 2009, 07:16 PM
The Cobra Concept?
http://damox.com/cars/wallpaper/Shelby/Ford_Shelby_Cobra_concept_2.jpg

ThePlague
February 10th, 2009, 07:26 PM
That's a nice car, but I'm not a real fan of Shelby. Ever since they made kits and stuff for those ugly ass Mustangs, I lost interest. My only favorite car from Shelby is the old cobra, that thing was badass.

kenney001
February 10th, 2009, 07:30 PM
Ugly mustang kits?

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6550/elanor2e351aif6.jpg

Try fucking beautiful.

Jean-Luc
February 10th, 2009, 07:53 PM
*jaw falls* DO WANT

ThePlague
February 10th, 2009, 08:00 PM
It's not those ones i'm talking about. Try the 2003, and 1998 or whatever ones. They looked terrible.

TeeKup
February 10th, 2009, 08:01 PM
1998. Jelly bean cars. They were disgusting.

ThePlague
February 10th, 2009, 08:04 PM
1998. Jelly bean cars. They were disgusting.
Exactly.

kenney001
February 10th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Shelby didn't do those...are you thinking of the roush and saleen mustangs?
http://images.streetfire.net/handlers/getsizedimage.ashx?id=1039746&w=461
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/500/98_Stage_2.jpg

Rob Oplawar
February 26th, 2009, 12:16 AM
bump

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=CW&Date=20090225&Category=GENEVA&ArtNo=302249994&Ref=AR&maxw=340
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090225/GENEVA/302249994

Good lord, that thing can break 200mph?
I'd drive it.

Mr Buckshot
February 26th, 2009, 01:53 AM
Shelby didn't do those...are you thinking of the roush and saleen mustangs?
http://images.streetfire.net/handlers/getsizedimage.ashx?id=1039746&w=461
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/500/98_Stage_2.jpg

http://www.pjlighthouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/barricade-transformers-decepticon-decepticon.jpg

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2006/08/Transformers-MustangBarricade.jpg

now THAT is the best Mustang.

Hotrod
February 26th, 2009, 08:04 PM
Yes, I agree, Barricade is indeed the best Mustang ever. :)

Mr Buckshot
February 27th, 2009, 01:27 AM
http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/maybach-62-studio.jpg

Maybach 62. Paranoid guys can also opt for an armoring package that makes the car as safe as a bank vault...assuming these guys own entire bank vaults of $$$ to pay for it. Power comes from a turbo V12 engine too for those performance enthusiasts.

0-60 in 5.2 seconds, very good for a car of this length.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Maybach-exelero-stuttgart.jpg/250px-Maybach-exelero-stuttgart.jpg

Maybach Exelero concept, shares the same biturbo V12 engine as the maybach 57 S.

BobtheGreatII
February 27th, 2009, 03:18 PM
That thing looks freakishly long... Don't like it. :raise:

RobertGraham
February 27th, 2009, 05:12 PM
totally full of win

http://www.twowheeltales.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/74-gremlin-body-on-a-74-jeep-frame-100_0173.jpg

0 - 60 in 2 Mins.

ThePlague
February 27th, 2009, 06:04 PM
totally full of win

http://www.twowheeltales.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/74-gremlin-body-on-a-74-jeep-frame-100_0173.jpg

0 - 60 in 2 Mins.OMG YES, I totally want one!

Mr Buckshot
February 27th, 2009, 09:50 PM
That thing looks freakishly long... Don't like it. :raise:

It has to be, so that the rich bastard riding in the back can fully recline his seat into a flat bed should he feel tired.

If you're referring to the coupe sports car though, then yes it seems a bit too long for its own good. Kind of resembles the Batmobile from the BTAS 1990's series.

Xetsuei
March 17th, 2009, 06:35 PM
http://wallpapers.free-review.net/wallpapers/17/Ascari_KZ1.jpg

The Ascari KZ1, imo what the Ferrari F430 should have looked like. Has 500hp coming from a tuned BMW M5 engine which lets it reach 0-60 in 3.7 seconds, and goes over 200mph. And besides all that, it also has great handling.

Bodzilla
March 17th, 2009, 09:31 PM
saw a dude driving around with a brand new Mustang or watever in my town yesterday.

First reaction:
"what a fucking dickhead."

TVTyrant
March 17th, 2009, 11:31 PM
http://polizeros.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/stretch-hummer.jpg

Why hello. Ain't dis just da damn near cutest thing ya ever sawed?/sarcasm

OmegaDragon
March 17th, 2009, 11:43 PM
http://polizeros.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/stretch-hummer.jpg

Why hello. Ain't dis just da damn near cutest thing ya ever sawed?/sarcasm

There goes the rest of
the ozone layer :gonk:

Rob Oplawar
March 18th, 2009, 12:22 AM
Do you know what that is in the back?
It's a jacuzzi. Yep.
I refer you back to my thread: FUCK YOU, WORLD (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14946).

Xetsuei
July 31st, 2009, 06:39 PM
For those who haven't seen it yet, the new Ferrari 458 Italia:

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4162/ferrarif458my201001.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9760/ferrarif458my201002.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9376/ferrarif458my201003.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5672/ferrarif458my201004.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/07/ferrari-458-int-cap-630op.jpg

4.5L V8 that puts out 560hp and 400 ft lbf torque, 7 speed DSG transmission. Weighs 3000lbs, 0-60 3.4s, top speed 202mph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_458_Italia

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leorimolo
July 31st, 2009, 06:44 PM
Fuck that thing is so hot.

TeeKup
July 31st, 2009, 06:46 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/11/2010-Ford-Mustang-001.jpg

Xetsuei
July 31st, 2009, 07:01 PM
I like the look of the new 2010 way better than the 2005-2009. Looks much meaner.

Xetsuei
August 1st, 2009, 12:49 AM
What a great looking car.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1369/bianconero1.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9463/bianconero2.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5102/giallonero1.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3983/giallonero2.jpg

This is a HUGE step up from the F430, almost looks like a F430 and Enzo combined. I think this might be the car to end the era of the ugly Ferraris.

LesserOf2Evils
August 1st, 2009, 01:12 AM
Ferraris were never ugly, just way the hell too plain looking for costing a shit load of money. The 458 does actually look like super-car though.

Anyways Aston Martin is awesome. One-77 (700hp and 553 ft/lb) on top and V-12 Vantage(510hp and 420ft/lb) on bottom.
http://www.supercar-wallpapers.com/Wallpapers/AstonMartin/Aston_Martin_One-77/Aston_Martin_One-77_1600.jpg
http://www.autofans.us/images/Aston%20Martin/Aston%20Martin%20One-77.jpg
http://www.ballerride.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/aston-martin-v12-vantage-1.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/02/v12vant-back.jpg

In case you haven't noticed I'm a bit of sucker for AstonMartin styling.

Xetsuei
August 1st, 2009, 01:18 AM
First pic isn't working.

But yes, Aston Martin supercars ever since about 2000 and on (in my opinion) have always looked great. Supercars don't get much manlier than Aston Martins.

Horns
August 1st, 2009, 01:48 AM
Foust's scion tc.

http://www.tracksyde.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tanner_foust_rockstar_hankook_scion_vegas_09_573.j pg

Tis badass.

NuggetWarmer
August 1st, 2009, 08:09 AM
http://elieharriett.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/x_1950_studebaker_bullet_nose_11152006034347_16394 .jpg
http://www.moby302.co.za/photo/ae/chev_delray_1958_02_dvdb08.JPG
http://www.moby302.co.za/for_sale/1957_corvette_stingray_front.JPG
http://www.moby302.co.za/photo/ae/1957_chev_belair_02.JPG

Rob Oplawar
August 1st, 2009, 12:54 PM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3983/giallonero2.jpg
Meh, I'll admit that it's pretty cool looking, but it's so not my style.


http://www.autofans.us/images/Aston%20Martin/Aston%20Martin%20One-77.jpg
Now that's a car. I love Aston Martins.


http://www.tracksyde.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tanner_foust_rockstar_hankook_scion_vegas_09_573.j pg
That too.


http://www.moby302.co.za/for_sale/1957_corvette_stingray_front.JPG
That three.

Matooba
August 1st, 2009, 01:29 PM
http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0707/24/car1.jpg
Tube It: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO0PgyPWE3o
Bugatti Veyron: 2.5 seconds
The car maker says the quadruple-turbocharged, W-16 engine (think two V-8s) in its Veyron 16.4 produces 1,001 hp. In turn, that results in a blistering zero-to-60 mph time of around 2.5 seconds, according to reviews. Since production began in late 2005, cars have been built exclusively to order. In the U.S. you can get it for about $1.4 million.


http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0707/24/car_2_.jpg SSC Ultimate Aero TT: 2.8 seconds (tie)
Ultimate Aero TT model, which is unrelated to the Audi TT, has a zero-to-60 mph time of about 2.8 seconds (OK, 2.78 seconds). Suggested retail is $549,000. Junus Khan, SSC sales director, said only one dealer, Motorcars of Las Vegas, sells the car. It has a twin-turbocharged V-8 engine that generates 1,183 hp.




http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0707/24/car2_.jpg
Saleen S7: (http://www.luxurylaunches.com/transport/top_five_fastest_zeroto60_carszooom.php#) 2.8 seconds (tie)
The outrageously styled Saleen S7 is one of the few cars in the world with a claimed zero-to-60 mph sprint of less than three seconds, or 100 mph in 5.9 seconds, thanks to a twin-turbocharged, 750-hp V8 engine. The body is made of light but strong "honeycomb" composite panels. Suggested retail is $592,700. Saleen also builds cars strictly for the race track.




http://www.luxurylaunches.com/entry_images/0707/24/car4_.jpg
RUF CTR3: 3.2 seconds
The CTR3’s zero-to-60 mph figure is conservative, said Wayne Corley, who co-owns the brand’s sole U.S. dealership, RUF Auto Centre in Dallas. RUF (all-capitals), is named for founder Alois Ruf, Sr. The company modifies factory Porsches in Germany, to perform even better. RUF also builds its own cars, like the CTR 3, which still shares some parts with the Porsche GT3 (http://www.luxurylaunches.com/transport/top_five_fastest_zeroto60_carszooom.php#). Suggested retail is about $520,000, depending on the exchange rate.

Xetsuei
August 1st, 2009, 01:31 PM
Meh, I'll admit that it's pretty cool looking, but it's so not my style.

Yeah, and you like the looks of the Veyron. :gonk:

No electric vehicles. No hybrids, econoboxes, or anything of the sort. Nothing with an engine under 4.0L. I've mentioned the rules several pages back. Electric cars are for wimps.

Rob Oplawar
August 1st, 2009, 01:40 PM
And here I was about to say that the Veyron is the only good looking car in Matooba's post.

Terror(NO)More
August 1st, 2009, 01:43 PM
My car! (: I own this baby.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8873/cvby.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2615/zxf.jpg

Xetsuei
August 13th, 2009, 03:27 AM
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3091/webfront4.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2952/36800517689a4272b391o.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6894/3696044456cd97389580o.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6629/webdsc4083.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7278/webinterir.jpg

Lamborghini LP560-4. 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, all wheel drive, V10 engine 560hp.

SK5cse6-pdA

Not an LP560, but it's the same model (Gallardo).
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Mr Buckshot
August 13th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Nothing with an engine under 4.0L.

I don't know what you drive, but I bet there are tons of cars with engines under 4.0L that go much faster than whatever you drive. I don't mean the GTR, btw. Not saying that people shouldn't make huge engines, but hey there's no harm in always increasing the power of small engines.

Anyway:

http://fancytuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/asi-tetsu-bentley-continental-gt-3.jpg

http://www.globalmotors.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/jaguar-xkr.jpg

Gotta love British cars. Jaguar may be owned by Tata Motors now, but production and staff are still in Britain. Nothing's really changed.

Italian stuff:

http://keiachun4evah.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/blue-ferrari-612-scaglietti.jpg

NOTE: This P.O.S. below is seriously a Lamborghini (LM002), I swear. I don't think it's cool at all, but it's worth knowing about:
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/100-greatest/03-large/56-lamborghini-lm002.jpg

For those who don't believe this is a Lambo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_LM002

Xetsuei
August 13th, 2009, 01:47 PM
I don't know what you drive, but I bet there are tons of cars with engines under 4.0L that go much faster than whatever you drive. I don't mean the GTR, btw. Not saying that people shouldn't make huge engines, but hey there's no harm in always increasing the power of small engines.


*Engine must be over 4 liters, unless it is a rally car, or if there is a rally car version.
One last exception, the car has to look AMAZINGLY cool (ie, first post lotus).
*No ricers, not even the stock version.
*Color must not be pink.
*NO HYBRIDS!!!

That pretty much saves anything that is actually cool from that rule.

And, what the hell, Bugatti Veyron:
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This car is seriously growing on me, it sounds like a fucking jet taking off when it's accelerating.

Mr Buckshot
August 13th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Ok, if you permit certain cars with engines under 4000cc:

http://forums.pueblochieftain.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=546&stc=1&d=1248283009

This one below is cool just because James Bond drives it and it's got missiles and can blow shit up:

http://themoviewhore.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/lotus_esprit_007_submarine_front_quarter.jpg

Lamborghini Reventon:

http://www.maquettes-papier.net/forumenpapier/images/uploads/maquetator/lamborghini-reventon_183.jpg

Koenigsegg CC:

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/06/13/465586.1-lg.jpg

Limited
September 12th, 2009, 05:17 PM
Bump.

McLaren MP4-12C
Looks like McLaren might be making a line of super cars :O

According to them, it will have some of the newest best technology not even out.

Absolutely stunning

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6372/mclarenmp412c2011800x60.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1497/mclarenmp412c2011800x60t.jpg
http://www.netcarshow.com/mclaren/2011-mp4-12c/800x600/wallpaper_03.htm

Pyong Kawaguchi
September 12th, 2009, 05:36 PM
mclaren f1 is way better imo

Xetsuei
September 12th, 2009, 05:41 PM
It's a huge leap up from the McLaren-Mercedes SLR.

And just to let you guys know it does have a 3.8 litre V8 twin turbo, but it is beyond cool enough to be in the thread. The little engine makes ~600bhp. Kind of funny that the Nissan GT-R only does 480bhp and has a 3.8 litre V6 twin turbo.

Rob Oplawar
September 12th, 2009, 11:24 PM
Been posted several times already, but it deserves another:
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/news/car/09q3/2010_lamborghini_reventon_roadster-official_photos_leaked/gallery/2008_lamborghini_revent_c3_b3n_photo_14/2867710-1-eng-US/2008-lamborghini-reventon-14-2.jpg_cd_gallery.jpg
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/news/car/09q3/2010_lamborghini_reventon_roadster-official_photos_leaked/gallery/2010_lamborghini_revent_c3_b3n_photo_26/2867878-1-eng-US/2010-lamborghini-reventon-roadster-102-2.jpg_cd_gallery.jpg
I admit it. I want that car.

Heathen
September 12th, 2009, 11:28 PM
Been posted several times already, but it deserves another:
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/news/car/09q3/2010_lamborghini_reventon_roadster-official_photos_leaked/gallery/2008_lamborghini_revent_c3_b3n_photo_14/2867710-1-eng-US/2008-lamborghini-reventon-14-2.jpg_cd_gallery.jpg
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/news/car/09q3/2010_lamborghini_reventon_roadster-official_photos_leaked/gallery/2010_lamborghini_revent_c3_b3n_photo_26/2867878-1-eng-US/2010-lamborghini-reventon-roadster-102-2.jpg_cd_gallery.jpg
I admit it. I want that car.

Now thats actually a car I like.

mR_r0b0to
September 12th, 2009, 11:48 PM
that car's got a shitload of planar and smoothing errors, modeling noob is noob

TeeKup
September 13th, 2009, 02:15 AM
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2092/carw.jpg
Do want....DO WANT.

Futzy
September 13th, 2009, 10:09 AM
I absolutely love the new front end, but the rear is just terrible.

Also the stripes and hood on that on are more than a bit odd.

Xetsuei
September 13th, 2009, 01:26 PM
At least the new rear end isn't flat like the old one.

http://image.mustang50magazine.com/f/15122309/m5lp_0905_03_z+2010_ford_mustang_GT+rear_view.jpg

vs

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-talk/33421d1190334798-new-rear-gt500-spoiler-installed-my-2005-mustang-24456.jpg

Heathen
September 13th, 2009, 02:34 PM
which one is the new one, because the red one wins.

Horns
September 13th, 2009, 02:47 PM
which one is the new one, because the red one wins.

Blue is new, red is old.

Limited
September 13th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Blue one needs a spoiler so badly (like the red spoiler)

ThePlague
September 13th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Ford Mustangs are ewwww

All bout dis:
http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Image/new-cars/Mitsubishi/2008%20Lancer%20Evo%281%29.jpg

Xetsuei
September 13th, 2009, 04:23 PM
Nah, Mustangs are p awesome.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8920/2010fordmustanggtingrab.jpg

ThePlague
September 13th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Looks so gross tbh. If you want new muscle, go for this bad boy:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2006/2006-Dodge-Challenger-Concept-SA-1920x1440.jpg

Or this:
http://www.uawlocal211.org/images/events/Chevy_Camaro.jpg

And my favorite old muscle car:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1960-1969/1966-Pontiac-GTO-Red-fa-t-sy.jpg

Second favorite (just for more pics):
http://www.classicchevelless.com/wp-content/gallery/classic-chevelle-ss-gallery-1/1970-chevy-chevelle-ss-454-1.jpg

Futzy
September 13th, 2009, 05:00 PM
http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Image/new-cars/Mitsubishi/2008%20Lancer%20Evo%281%29.jpg
Sorry I refuse to respect anything that looks remotely like a ricer.

Old chargers and camaroes were very good. These new things are terrible.

Also that grabbler blue on the mustang is my least favorite color, besides white.

Xetsuei
September 13th, 2009, 09:11 PM
Looks so gross tbh.


Also that grabbler blue on the mustang is my least favorite color, besides white.

http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-psyduck.gif

Horns
September 13th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Fords first attempt to bring the old muscle styling back into the mustang was a win imo. It was pretty much perfect. The new one is a miss tbh.

Xetsuei
September 13th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Good lord what is wrong with you people.

The new 2010 Mustang is miles better than the 2005-2009. Who cares if it is not as true to the original as the 2005-2009, IT LOOKS BETTER.

Warsaw
September 13th, 2009, 10:31 PM
I don't think so. I prefer the 2008 models, to be honest. The 2010 one streamlines it a little too much, and the scrolling tail lights are a big NO. The last two years were slightly beefier, which made them more appealing. If I want a streamlined sports car, I will go for a Corvette or one of the European ones (Corvette first, since that's my fave...:-3).

sdavis117
September 13th, 2009, 10:35 PM
http://www.autopanorama.ru/gallery/PeugeotHoggar/peugeot-hoggar-2-1024.jpg

Anyone recognize this car from anywhere?

Maybe stick a turret on the back and some "tusks" on the front...

Skyline
September 13th, 2009, 10:49 PM
I find the new 2010 Mustang's back has more definition then the previous one. Change is good.

Pontiac Trans AM:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/%2772_Pontiac_Trans_Am_%28Auto_classique%29.JPG/800px-%2772_Pontiac_Trans_Am_%28Auto_classique%29.JPG

I like the old design alot better then the newer ones.

Futzy
September 13th, 2009, 10:52 PM
Good lord what is wrong with you people.

The new 2010 Mustang is miles better than the 2005-2009. Who cares if it is not as true to the original as the 2005-2009, IT LOOKS BETTER.
People just have no respect for truly great cars anymore. The muscle cars of the 60- early 70s are some of the best looking cars ever made. This new aero style of Lamborghinis are all right, the new Mclaren is pretty nice, but just about everything else nowadays is disgusting in my eyes.

I also strongly dislike the look of the car on your signature.

I myself drive a 2005 mustang in legend lime with boss style pen stripes on the back and the old style mustang lettering below them, and bullet wheels, just because its awesome. Blacking out the back where the faux gas door is makes it look 10x better than stock on light colored cars.

Pyong Kawaguchi
September 13th, 2009, 10:53 PM
http://www.autopanorama.ru/gallery/PeugeotHoggar/peugeot-hoggar-2-1024.jpg

Anyone recognize this car from anywhere?

Maybe stick a turret on the back and some "tusks" on the front...

Warthog?
E: Civihog!
:3

sdavis117
September 13th, 2009, 10:57 PM
I actually looked it up after posting it here, and even a Bungie employee (Shishka) says that is the closest thing to a Warthog that is available to the public.

Warsaw
September 13th, 2009, 11:03 PM
Anyone else notice that it says "FAP" on the side?

Auto Panorama eh...Russian Car magasine probably...

Xetsuei
September 13th, 2009, 11:46 PM
I also strongly dislike the look of the car on your signature.

Try the one without the aero kit:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9362/12861848l.jpg


I myself drive a 2005 mustang in legend lime with boss style pen stripes on the back and the old style mustang lettering below them, and bullet wheels, just because its awesome. Blacking out the back where the faux gas door is makes it look 10x better than stock on light colored cars.

Why would you do that to a V6 Mustang? Don't try to make it something it's not.

But personally, I think the 2010 Mustang looks much meaner than the 2005-2009. And I've also got to say Warsaw, I don't follow you when you say the 2010 looks more streamlined than the 2005-2009.

http://www.iroel.org/wp-content/Ebook/desember/2009/02/2010-ford-mustang-gt-2.jpg

http://newcarbuyingguide.com/images/articles/reviews/ford/2007FordMustangGT01.jpg

ThePlague
September 14th, 2009, 12:39 AM
<3 Mclaren F1

Pyong Kawaguchi
September 14th, 2009, 01:17 AM
<3 F1 Mclaren :3
Thanks NFS High stakes :P

Horns
September 14th, 2009, 01:21 AM
They need to do something about the mustangs mirrors. They look like they belong on a ranger, not a hot rod.

Warsaw
September 14th, 2009, 06:40 PM
Why would you do that to a V6 Mustang? Don't try to make it something it's not.

But personally, I think the 2010 Mustang looks much meaner than the 2005-2009. And I've also got to say Warsaw, I don't follow you when you say the 2010 looks more streamlined than the 2005-2009.[/img]

The lights on the 2008 bulge more, and I like that. Makes it look a little meaner. It's a small detail, but it makes a rather large impact, in my opinion. That being said, any new Mustang from 2005 onward is decent, can't say I'm a fan of anything between the '69 and the 2005 though.

mech
September 14th, 2009, 07:37 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/mclarenp112.jpg

Heathen
September 14th, 2009, 07:52 PM
http://www.autopanorama.ru/gallery/PeugeotHoggar/peugeot-hoggar-2-1024.jpg

Anyone recognize this car from anywhere?

Maybe stick a turret on the back and some "tusks" on the front...

No, its not like a warthog.

mech
September 14th, 2009, 08:06 PM
He never said it was a warthog, you just assumed that; Which in fact triggers something in your mind to believe it has some aesthetic similarities to that of the warthog.

Rob Oplawar
September 14th, 2009, 08:16 PM
Well, his implication was pretty obvious...