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Mr Buckshot
January 8th, 2008, 01:21 AM
The original comic for January 7:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7672/20080107og5.jpg

The edited comic for January 7:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5484/200801072ar8.jpg

I wonder if it had anything to do with Tim Buckley's latest rant:


So I imagine some of you have heard about these idiots suing Microsoft for five million dollars (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184323.html) due to the Xbox Live connectivity problems over the holidays.

I didn't even know about these issues until a couple of days ago when I heard Microsoft was apologizing for them, and these morons were suing because of it. Until a couple of days ago, I hadn't touched my 360 for weeks. Between work and the holidays, my little free time for gaming was consumed on the PC by Everquest 2 for me, and WoW with Britanny. So I was not at all affected by any Xbox Live connection issues during the last few weeks, so I can't speak to it personally. However, I can say that if I had tried to log in, and found the service down... I would have just gone and done something else. Any of the dozen other hobbies I enjoy occupying my time with.

What lives do these people lead that if they can't get online with their Halos and Calls of Duty that their whole world grinds to a halt? Is their only other option to stare at a wall for hours on end, that it warrants a lawsuit to rectify this horrible injustice? If they can afford a $300 gaming system with games, does it not stand to reason that they could also afford a $15 book?

Of course, a book, silly me. Look at who I'm referring to here, the video generations, with each one lazier and more illiterate than the last, to the point where they're happy to look like idiots just to avoid the extra millisecond it takes to type/read 'You' instead of 'u'. I mean I support short-hand internet language in the environments where it was bred out of necessity, fast-paced chat rooms and video-games-before-VoIP, where slower typers didn't have the luxury of full proper spelling and grammar. But these days it seems like this type of communication is all some kids know, and... this is a tangent and a topic for an entirely different rant for another day.

Back on topic, I'll start off by saying that yes, I agree that it was Microsoft's responsibility to plan for an influx in activity around the holiday. However, we don't really know for sure that they didn't do just that. This is technology here, people, and in this day and age we should know the score by now. Technology is wonderful and makes a lot of things super easy for us, but at the same time it is prone to malfunction. Maybe Microsoft did increase server capacity, and it still wasn't enough to handle the holiday surge.

And some people will say "We pay for the service, we have a right to expect it to work". Yes, we do have a right to expect it to work. But online services like this are fluid, ever-changing things, and we have to accept that sometimes we'll deal with fluctuations while it balances itself after changes. If it sounds like I've made this argument before, its because I have. This whole "Oh my god, my "Insert MMO Here" server is down! I want a refund, I want a free month, I am going to sue because they're not letting me play when I want to play!" crybaby argument is pretty common on MMO forums, and I've addressed it before.

A service involving internet servers and an ever-increasing customer base is going to have growing pains, be it Xbox Live or MMOs or whatever. If you go buy a washing machine, you have every reason to believe that it is going to work as advertised right out of the box, and for a good long while. And in most cases, it will. Because the manufacturer can easily do some research and figure out what exactly the usage levels for a single family using this washing machine might be, and then run test after test after test to make sure the machine can stand up to that usage and then some. They have the tools to simulate the wear and tear on the product.

There is no way to simulate a sudden increase of 700,000 people trying to sign on to your servers. You can estimate, you can look at your current numbers and try to multiply and plan ahead. But a lot of problems may not present themselves in testing, and may only show up when under the actual stress of actual users.

So while of course I think it's Microsoft's responsibility to make the service function, and I can understand that it can be pretty frustrating to not be able to play a game you wanted to when you have the free time to do so, especially for people with a brand new system for Christmas, a lawsuit? Give me a fucking break.

And five million dollars? Really? What the hell are these kids doing that their time they were supposed to be on playing games is worth five million dollars? Do they get paid $1 per racial/homophobic slur that they toss around during a match? An extra $0.50 if its delivered without their voice cracking?

I recognize that most likely these idiots are just trying to make a point with this thing, but as far as I'm concerned, the point is lost within the stupidity of the whole frivolous lawsuit. Also maybe they're just doing it for attention. Whichever, I have to believe that they don't actually think they're going to get five million dollars. Good gods of gaming, please don't let them actually think that.

And moreover, don't let them get it! Can you imagine the precedence set here if our legal system (and I wouldn't put it past them) awarded them this money? A drop in the bucket for Microsoft, sure, but idiots will be crawling out of the woodwork every time their WoW server goes down for maintenance, suing for "damages".

That this is a class-action lawsuit almost makes it worse, because in a way they're lumping the rest of us into the "I care so much about my games I'm going to sue if I can't have them" category by stating that we all "suffered" from the outage. I don't know about the rest of you, but even if I had been dying to play CoD4 during the outage, I doubt I would have classified my inability to do so as "suffering".

I know they're not going to get the money, but the lawsuit shouldn't have been filed in the first place.

Mr Buckshot
January 8th, 2008, 01:27 AM
This is just like many other American stupidities (i.e. a woman suing because she got burned when she spilled hot coffee on her hand at McD's when the cup clearly said Caution Hot, or when a man sued because the manual didn't say he couldn't set the Winnebago in cruise control and leave the wheel entirely).

Damn...I support Buckley totally. I despise complete video game addicts who just can't do anything else - they're just like drug/cigarette addicts except that their physical health isn't affected in the same way.

Zeph
January 8th, 2008, 02:14 AM
These idiots need to be smited from the face of the planet.

Mr Buckshot
January 8th, 2008, 02:37 AM
Nah, they just need to be exiled from the States. You try to do this lawsuit shit in China to a major Chinese company, and they'll hire the triads to put you in your place. More realistically, the Chinese judge will literally tell you to fuck off and stop wasting his time. I guess you could succeed if you tried it in a socialist country like Canada (where I live) but no one here is stupid/lifeless enough yet.

At this rate, I should move back to San Jose...then I'll buy an MMO, play until I experience a server outage, and sue the game company for millions. Better yet, I'll buy a car, do something that causes an accident and that isn't mentioned in the highway code, and sue the car company for millions.

By the way, wtf was with the comic strip change? I liked the first one more.

Zeph
January 8th, 2008, 02:40 AM
Nah, they just need to be exiled from the States. You try to do this lawsuit shit in China to a major Chinese company, and they'll hire the triads to put you in your place. More realistically, the Chinese judge will literally tell you to fuck off and stop wasting his time. I guess you could succeed if you tried it in a socialist country like Canada (where I live) but no one here is stupid/lifeless enough yet.

At this rate, I should move back to San Jose...then I'll buy an MMO, play until I experience a server outage, and sue the game company for millions. Better yet, I'll buy a car, do something that causes an accident and that isn't mentioned in the highway code, and sue the car company for millions.

By the way, wtf was with the comic strip change? I liked the first one more.

Actually, you'll find that pretty much all MMOs have it in their EULA/terms that you pay for the service if it's up or down. I wouldn't be surprised if XBL has it in there, MS will take these guys to court, and force them to pay for legal fees.

Mr Buckshot
January 8th, 2008, 02:49 AM
very good point. I don't want them to win. But then again, they're so stupid that if they do win, they won't notice if the money they're paid with is printed on soiled toilet paper.

I'm most furious that right after Microsoft apologizes and offers a free XBLA game to all XBL users, they file a lawsuit when they should be saying "No problem, MS, and thanks for the game." I bet they would still file the lawsuit even if Microsoft offered everyone a free copy of Halo FOUR.

legionaire45
January 8th, 2008, 03:14 AM
I absolutely 100% agree with Buckley's rant. There was an idiot at my school bitching about the outage and how he felt "ripped off" because he lost roughly $5 worth of his Xbox Live subscription. For the love of god, Microsoft is giving everyone on the service a $8.00 to $10.00 game already yet fuckers still bitch and moan about it. Hell, all things considering Microsoft handled this very very well - I hardly played my 360 over the break but even if I had missed a day or so like Buckey said up there, I can just find something else to do like _GASP_ homework and get a free game out of it.

Kids these days annoy the fuck out of me. I'm getting totally sick of the obsessed gamers who have let their hobby grow so out of hand that they honestly consider it torture to not have their shitty little murder simulator for more then $5. I can't wait until these people have heart attacks at the age of 26 due to their bullshit "stress" combined with the fact that they don't get away from the keyboard ever.

Tweek
January 8th, 2008, 05:21 AM
GOOD GAME AMERICA!

n00b1n8R
January 8th, 2008, 06:31 AM
this thread depresses me, I'm gona go check out the Darwin awards. anyone care to join me?

Llama Juice
January 8th, 2008, 08:32 AM
As much as this thread bothers me because of the typical stereotyping done on the "average" gamer, even when everyone here is a gamer, I'm still going to put my two cents in.

Last month I worked my ass off in school. I'd usually get anywhere between zero and three hours of sleep a night (leaning more on the zero side of things). The term ends and my roommate, along with most of the other kids in my class, flew back home for the break. I had just bought Call of Duty 4 because about half the kids on my XBL friends list had been playing it for the past few months, some of them were some pretty cool kids that I missed playing with.

After throwing my $40 into the game (Yea the price fell, yay) I got home and tried to play a match. It was horribly sad how poor the servers were acting. It'd take up to 15 minutes to find a match, even if you were by yourself. If you wanted to play with a friend, good luck. The game would kick people out of the room for no apparent reason, and kids that had been playing COD4 since release said that it wasn't the game, it was the servers that were being lame.

One day after failing to have our party play together for at the very least 30 minutes, I shut off the Xbox. Sure, I was frustrated, and I felt very sour about M$'s service. These issues continued, and as soar as the connection was during the day... it was impossible to play a game anywhere between 3 PM and 10 PM.

I don't play games to win, I play for the fun of it. Over the past week it was impossible to play a decent match on XBL.

I'm very glad that M$ had apologized about it and offered a game as their apology, but they should have been more prepared. They admitted that they were disappointed in their service as well.

Yea, pretty easy to attack someone when you reduce their IQ to less than that of roadkill. Be realistic though, sure the country is sue-happy but just because one kid is an idiot doesn't mean you should ever treat the XBL user base as a whole as an idiot. Never write anything with the idea in your head "Well EVERYONE is an idiot... except me", and expect it to be taken seriously.

In closing, sure, I'm upset about the server faults over the past few days. I'm glad they apologized about it, but now with school starting up again I won't have time to play games like I had the chance over break. So I feel kind of cheated by the service.

nooBBooze
January 8th, 2008, 08:38 AM
or when a man sued because the manual didn't say he couldn't set the Winnebago in cruise control and leave the wheel entirely).

i heard he was making himself a cup of coffee in the back :/

anyways, although i clearly support the argument MS is an evil, monopolistic corporation that will eventually enslave our civilazation and crap all over it by selling cheap ass products, this is just dumb.
the halogen folks should have sued tough as their cause was just and right.
*sigh*

Con
January 8th, 2008, 11:04 AM
the original strip isn't showing

Tweek
January 8th, 2008, 11:09 AM
the halogen folks should have sued tough as their cause was just and right.
*sigh*

no, because they're normal people, who were politely asked to stop their activities.

not moneywhoring, lawsuit-greedy EZ-cash american shitfags.

El Lobo
January 8th, 2008, 01:28 PM
What country are you from Tweek?

Tweek
January 8th, 2008, 02:47 PM
the netherlands yeeeeeey
don't see relevancy though.

Mr Buckshot
January 8th, 2008, 07:16 PM
the original strip isn't showing

Look at the last panel if you want to see the difference.

Mr Buckshot
January 8th, 2008, 07:22 PM
I absolutely 100% agree with Buckley's rant. There was an idiot at my school bitching about the outage and how he felt "ripped off" because he lost roughly $5 worth of his Xbox Live subscription. For the love of god, Microsoft is giving everyone on the service a $8.00 to $10.00 game already yet fuckers still bitch and moan about it. Hell, all things considering Microsoft handled this very very well - I hardly played my 360 over the break but even if I had missed a day or so like Buckey said up there, I can just find something else to do like _GASP_ homework and get a free game out of it.

Kids these days annoy the fuck out of me. I'm getting totally sick of the obsessed gamers who have let their hobby grow so out of hand that they honestly consider it torture to not have their shitty little murder simulator for more then $5. I can't wait until these people have heart attacks at the age of 26 due to their bullshit "stress" combined with the fact that they don't get away from the keyboard ever.

Wow, it actually occurred in your school? In my school, those of my friends who had XBL were clearly unhappy, but they took it like real men and went to play single-player games, split-screen multiplayer, or just did something else altogether.

Say, I wonder how Ethan (a character in CAD) felt during the outage...probably was sane enough to do something else (*coughcoughbanglilahcoughcough*) instead of bitching about not being able to play online. Oh wait he was playing Everquest.

I played my 360 and PS3 regularly over the break (only at night, no more than 2 hours due to strict parents). I don't have XBL gold so the outage came and went without me noticing, but I know that if I had the ability to frag Spartans online and that ability got cut off, I'd just replay the single player or invite friends over for split screen action.

Emmzee
January 8th, 2008, 08:43 PM
HI GUYS I SHOULD SUE TIME WARNER FOR THAT ONE TIME I WAS WITHOUT INTERWEBS FOR AN HOUR AND I COULDN'T WATCH MY PORN :v

Bodzilla
January 8th, 2008, 09:05 PM
if thats true Emmy, me and dane should be Trillionaires :v

Mr Buckshot
January 9th, 2008, 12:12 AM
If I could sue Rogers Pay-As-You-Go (Canadian SIM card provider) for accidentally erasing my cell phone balance three times last year (though I always managed to get the money back into my account eventually), I'd be the king of Canada.

I agree, these people give the gaming community a bad name. Hell, they give the United States a bad name (so happy I don't live there anymore) when combined with people who sue McDonalds because they spilled coffee on their own hands.

nooBBooze
January 9th, 2008, 09:55 AM
I agree, these people give the gaming community a bad name. Hell, they give the United States a bad name (so happy I don't live there anymore) when combined with people who sue McDonalds because they spilled coffee on their own pants while driving.

ftfy :3
if i could, i&#180;d sue google cause they log my activities + they dont look kindly on free speech. id get bitchslapped tough as theyre a international multi billion dollar corp and they can alter their logo on the frontpage whenever they want. <:(>

p0lar_bear
January 10th, 2008, 01:13 PM
guyz no1 evr telled me dat life isnt alwasy fare so im gon soo evry1 dat pissz me of lollloooolllollol

Mr Buckshot
January 12th, 2008, 02:22 AM
If I were Microsoft and I lost the lawsuit...

I would hurl insults at them, record the insults, then deliver the money to their house.

But the money would be in 500 million pennies, rained down from a plane. The pennies would all be coated in fresh diarrhea too. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to touch money if it were covered in shit and raining on my hair.

n00b1n8R
January 12th, 2008, 08:09 AM
Then they'd just hire a bunch of people to pick up the moneys for them. :downs:

Also, they'd just sue them again. :haw: