Veblensk

[SnaFuBAR]

It's making a comeback. There was supposed to be a release simultaneous to Ambush, BUT all the texture files were lost when my laptop caught on fire. I had the geometry backed up on a cd, though. I have yet to model some machine gun emplacements and rubble, but it's coming along. When the alpha was tested, it was a whole lot of fun, even just one vs one. For one reason or another, my tank traps are missing... but that's not too big of a deal.

As it stands currently, there's about 28k triangles. every building has breakable glass, interiors that are accessible to a limited degree, and is very very fun for infantry only combat.

This MP map is modeled after the first level in Black, by the same name.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1416/oshiwutls0.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8321/oshiveblenskyg2.jpg

[Tweek]

this shit is oooold?

[SnaFuBAR]

really old

[n00b1n8R]

so why don't you post some recent work?
though what you posted looks nice. perhaps the vehicles will actually stay inside the city.

though I'm confused why this is in the CE section if you've moved to another engine..

[Syuusuke]

Oh I don't know...
Maybe because

It's making a comeback.

Unless he's just teasing us.

[SuperSunny]

though what you posted looks nice. perhaps the vehicles will actually stay inside the city.

though I'm confused why this is in the CE section if you've moved to another engine..

This map is being released for CE, that's why it's posted here.

For further development on the mod itself, they have moved to another engine. But it doesn't mean it's completely frozen.

[LinkandKvel]

This MP map is modeled after the first level in Black, by the same name.

I DEMAND ORIGINALITY YOU MODELING GOD WHORE!!! :-3
Looks great. Should have took a clay render. Would have been presented better in my opinion.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

thats ingame on ce right?
Looks like for once a model looks great in ce imo :awesome:

[Bastinka]

thats ingame on ce right?
Looks like for once a model looks great in ce imo :awesome:
No. Those are renders.

[AAA]

I remember this level...Are you gonna make it to where we can climb up the building and shoot people from that tower thingy-ma-bob where the rocket launcher guy is in this level?

[SnaFuBAR]

yeah. pretty much wherever an enemy presence was, you can go.

[PenGuin1362]

yay. i'll give ya a few more ideas for some minor detail later :p. also that pkm will not be in there just so there's no confusion >_>. i missed this map :<

[SnaFuBAR]

yeah, the pk is just too many triangle for your average player in this game. There will be, however, turrets behind sandbags.

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1230/zilag6.jpg

started on a 6x6 truck for a static prop only the cab is a permanent part of the model.

[Syuusuke]

Plain donut wheels? Needs more coated sugar!

[PenGuin1362]

he got flat tire, k?! <:mad:>

[SnaFuBAR]

cut out the windows on the cab.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/152/6x6nf9.jpg

i know, pretty unlike me to post something so unfinished.

[Apoc4lypse]

n33dz lezz fail and moar w1n!!

lol j/k...

but those wheels look horrible :lol:

The cab looks good to me though.. uhh idk, maybe add handles for doors, u don't have to model in the doors but a handle would be good enough. The texture can take care of the rest. Also what kind of truck is it gonna be. Maybe you should consider making the back have those like wooden side walls or what ever there called... :confused2:

[SMASH]

Um... idk about it SNAF... wheels look horrible... cab looks nice, the back is too low poly unless you need to do that in order to keep FPS down. So... idk where you are goin with it...

[PenGuin1362]

i'm glad you can read smash. as previously stated the cab is the only permanent part of the model. meaning everything else is either a placeholder or just far from finished.

[SnaFuBAR]

n33dz lezz fail and moar w1n!!

lol j/k...

but those wheels look horrible :lol:

The cab looks good to me though.. uhh idk, maybe add handles for doors, u don't have to model in the doors but a handle would be good enough. The texture can take care of the rest. Also what kind of truck is it gonna be. Maybe you should consider making the back have those like wooden side walls or what ever there called... :confused2:

hah, door handles. i totally overlooked that, due to the blueprint image quality in my max window. nice. i haven't forgotten about mirrors, though. the back is going to have the wooden slat sides, and probably a canvas top (like the troop transports). might add a .50 on the top, if i can find references.

[Apoc4lypse]

hah, door handles. i totally overlooked that, due to the blueprint image quality in my max window. nice. i haven't forgotten about mirrors, though. the back is going to have the wooden slat sides, and probably a canvas top (like the troop transports). might add a .50 on the top, if i can find references.

sounds like what I was picturing ;)

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4231/zil3ei2.jpg

[Syuusuke]

Haha Pancake wheels, YUMMY.

Hey where's the syrup?

[Bluefire]

looks like the syrup is in the tank

[legionaire45]

Is it maple syrup?

Looks good, although I think it needs moar drivetrain underneath.

[SnaFuBAR]

1988 triangles now, and yeah, there will be a drivetrain underneath, as soon as i find a few more angled shots. i have blueprints, but they're only cross-sections. also, going to add interior.


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8999/zillowpolyrg4.jpg

[StankBacon]

nice.

[PenGuin1362]

make an engine block and i make it explode :) since we couldn't get the cars to :(

[Con]

nice work snaffeh

[Apoc4lypse]

now its starting to look smexy :cool:

I want to smex it... :lol:

[Syuusuke]

Oh what, now you took out the wheels?

At first quick glance, I thought it was a boat... a weird boat (because of the lack of wheels.)

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3739/bellyofthebeastbd0.jpg

guys i'm detail whoring

[Apoc4lypse]

guys i'm detail whoring

your lucky you don't have aids yet :eek:

freakin whore :rolleyes: lol

Looks nice, I like how its coming out, those tires still need love though lol.

[n00b1n8R]

hurry up with the mirrors, gosh.

[SnaFuBAR]

k

[Tweek]

you call that detail?

FAIL

[SnaFuBAR]

there won't be detail until i've done the interior gauges and such, and the bolts. that's detail. also, stuff. yeah, that's right. stuff.

V___V

[paintballakid5]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3739/bellyofthebeastbd0.jpg

guys i'm detail whoring


Very nice Snaf! +rep:)

[SnaFuBAR]

more more more.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7809/veb1cu8.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4920/veb2ll1.jpg

[Btd69]

Pretty horrible tbh..

[SnaFuBAR]

don't mind btd, guys, he likes talking to his reflection :lol:

[randreach454]

yea i think its pretty fucking good man, keep up the excellent work!
I know it sounds stupid, but if you need some help, I may be able to do some small things for you.

[MMFSdjw]

more more more.
looks good. The building on the right with the pediments looks rather odd. I'm sure it's just early but... something about those pedimets mixed with the roof and overall building shape kinda make is stick out to me.

The smaller one accross from it with the L shaped indented corner is very nice.

[Syuusuke]

I thought I was in the HighResHalo thread for a sec, but I realized this look very different =/

[SnaFuBAR]

heh, managed to knock down the triangle count by 11,000. now sitting at a comfortable 63k triangles, which includes scenery items like light poles, vehicles, barriers, debris and so forth. I'll be trying to include more detail and knock down the triangle count again.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Good luck snaf!

[paintballakid5]

heh, managed to knock down the triangle count by 11,000. now sitting at a comfortable 63k triangles, which includes scenery items like light poles, vehicles, barriers, debris and so forth. I'll be trying to include more detail and knock down the triangle count again.


HOLY CRAP!:eek: thats gonna make my Computer Feel like a Fat kid after his grandma gives him $500 at a Candy store! my Computer is gonna fall on the ground and Die.:suicide:

By the way Snaf, it's looking Smexylicious.;)

[Disaster]

you should make more battle damage on the buildings like mortar holes and bombed out buildings with sniping spots that you can reach in some buildings. Overall it looks really good except that only one part of the city has visible battle damage

[Leiukemia]

HOLY CRAP!:eek: thats gonna make my Computer Feel like a Fat kid after his grandma gives him $500 at a Candy store! my Computer is gonna fall on the ground and Die.:suicide:

By the way Snaf, it's looking Smexylicious.;)

The amount of buildings and stuff will make portals pretty effective I think.

[paintballakid5]

The amount of buildings and stuff will make portals pretty effective I think.

huh? whats that gotta do with my Computer rolling on the ground and dieing?:confused:

[Sever]

Having structures blocking of segments of the combat area from certain points of view will be helpful with portaling, as there will be more of the combat area that is not necessary to render from each point of view. k?

[paintballakid5]

yea.. follow ya... :D

[SnaFuBAR]

most of the triangles are taken up by unoptomized and non-lod'd scenery items. not much to worry about, tbh.

[paintballakid5]

Ok, cool.. hopefully soon i will get a new Laptop to be able to handle this stuff... cuz right now, my computer can hardly run "Ambush" D:

[hailstorm65]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1416/oshiwutls0.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8321/oshiveblenskyg2.jpg


All I have to say is I love the way this looks, but perhaps you could add some more interest in the middle intersection area? forgive me if someone said to do that.

[SnaFuBAR]

i already did that...
http://h2vista.net/forums/showpost.php?p=216699&postcount=40

[hailstorm65]

My mistake, looks great!

[paintballakid5]

Dude, i can't wait to play this map.. it looks like soo much fun! +rep!

[SnaFuBAR]

o btw i modified the layout for more epic battles. but i'm holding out on you all D:

[Bodzilla]

o btw i modified the layout for more epic battles. but i'm holding out on you all D:
Dont make me resort to Profanity.
Bitch.
:shakesfist:

[SnaFuBAR]

wait till there's more :D

[SnaFuBAR]

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9373/railvq0.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6324/rail2wn4.jpg
added an elevated tram track, now to add the tram up there. destroyed of course. also note more debris and the widened playing field.

[JDMFSeanP]

Summary of map:

Badass.

[n00b1n8R]

are you guys polishing your tags for this, or are they the same as in ambush?
also, any chance of a halo classic version?

[SnaFuBAR]

some tags will be polished. i'll be doing a new skin for the arms as well.

no chance for halo classic. ever.

[Bodzilla]

Theres a Engineer Head in that map if you look.

a smile, Sun-glass's and a Hardhat.
i lol'd

looking Good Snaf :)

[Corndogman]

Theres a Engineer Head in that map if you look.

a smile, Sun-glass's and a Hardhat.
i lol'd

lol, i see it too.

also, great job snaf, im loving it.

[ODX]

lol, i see it too.

also, great job snaf, im loving it.
I'm no good at 'I Spy,' no fair! :mad:
Last time I've open an I Spy book was about 5 years ago.
Also, hope this doesn't lag my computer like Ambush, and/or we have a sight to aim down, this is Halo, not real life! It's almost like putting Modern Warfare weapons in Unreal Tournament.

[PlasbianX]

I dont think it looks like it will be very fun for gameplay. I hate wide open maps like this. I prefer small, tight spaces with lots of close combat :/

[Sel]

I dont think it looks like it will be very fun for gameplay. I hate wide open maps like this. I prefer small, tight spaces with lots of close combat :/

Depends on what you like.

But He has a point, you have to try and apeal to all kinds of players, not just one group.

For example, snow grove.

You have lots of cover, and a squishy walking path to bases, and a wide open vehicle path.

[S3anyBoy]

I like :cool:

[PenGuin1362]

Depends on what you like.

But He has a point, you have to try and apeal to all kinds of players, not just one group.

For example, snow grove.

You have lots of cover, and a squishy walking path to bases, and a wide open vehicle path.

as does this >_>. the streets are open as you see but almost every building is accessible creating some close quarters combat >_>. you try to appeal to everyone, but not everyone is gunna like it.

[TeeKup]

The original Veblensk on Black had very good gameplay. On BlackOps mode there was always plenty of cover to duck behind, as well has explosive objects to take advantage of. The map itself is just perfect for guerrilla warfare. The fact that Snafubar is remaking it for CE and adding a few tweeks will ensure it will be an epic map. Yes I'm sucking up but its the truth, bite me.

I'm eager to see the textured version.

[SnaFuBAR]

I dont think it looks like it will be very fun for gameplay. I hate wide open maps like this. I prefer small, tight spaces with lots of close combat :/
Way back when I first made this map, we had an alpha test. Usually ended up being 1v1. Remember that, Bacon? Bacon is a far better player than I am, yet I was able to use building cover to my advantage.

If you don't see a lot of cover in this map, you're not looking at it right.

[Leiukemia]

I'm no good at 'I Spy,' no fair! :mad:
Last time I've open an I Spy book was about 5 years ago.
Also, hope this doesn't lag my computer like Ambush, and/or we have a sight to aim down, this is Halo, not real life! It's almost like putting Modern Warfare weapons in Unreal Tournament.

Holy fuck, you say things again and again but people still don't understand. The whole point of it is to be differant then halo. Also, unreal tournament is a great game to mod with completely new stuff. There's no reason why anyone should have to stay with halo gameplay or styles. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

[ODX]

Holy fuck, you say things again and again but people still don't understand. The whole point of it is to be differant then halo. Also, unreal tournament is a great game to mod with completely new stuff. There's no reason why anyone should have to stay with halo gameplay or styles. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
Well sorry! No need to freak out! If only I had added [/sarcasm] you wouldn't have said this. The modern weapons in Unreal Tournament was true though, but the 'this is Halo!' was sarcasm. I, myself, was kind of bored of regular Halo 1 weapons, which is why I like modded weapons, which is why I play Snow_Grove a lot, because it's not boring old Halo 1 weapons. I would be playing Ambush a lot, but it lags my computer. Before you say it, yes, I know, my computer sucks, my brother's going to build a new one.

[Syuusuke]

That's not sarcasm...you're not ridiculing anyone by saying that...or wait...Damn.

I believe this is going to be optimized (with portalling) so it won't make your FPS half-assed like ambush did?

[SnaFuBAR]

Building interiors could be portaled, but they don't need to be. 3/4th's of this map's triangle count is taken up by scenery. Scenery doesn't render when you're not looking at it, and building interiors are low poly, so portaling probably won't make much difference.

[chicane]

You had an alpha test in a textureless environment?

[PenGuin1362]

textures have no affect on gameplay. there is no need to waste production time while waiting for a map to be texture while the bsp is finished.


I believe this is going to be optimized (with portalling) so it won't make your FPS half-assed like ambush did?

this map can easily be portaled, LOD will be applied to all scenery models, third person weapon models will be very low detail. when it's all done, if we get it done right, fps should be perfectly fine. not to mention, like snaf said, the majority of the triangles are being taken up by the scenery he has in the render.

[Cyanide]

Well, after playing Call of Duty 4 for the last few weeks straight.....I would like a good modern combat map....and Ambush was not that...with all due respect.

I hope this will be better..

Now I know halo is no COD4 but I still love it and I trust you guys.

If not I may be calling this number soon....
1-800-273-8255



haha jk

[Sel]

Well, after playing Call of Duty 4 for the last few weeks straight.....I would like a good modern combat map....and Ambush was not that...with all due respect.

I hope this will be better..

Now I know halo is no COD4 but I still love it and I trust you guys.

If not I may be calling this number soon....
1-800-273-8255



haha jk

Yep

Its terror.

Google that number. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=1-800-273-8255&meta=

[Cyanide]

Selentic....we have a mutual friend....he can prove I'm not terror.....PM me =/

[p0lar_bear]

Building interiors could be portaled, but they don't need to be. 3/4th's of this map's triangle count is taken up by scenery. Scenery doesn't render when you're not looking at it, and building interiors are low poly, so portaling probably won't make much difference.

I beg to differ. Scenery, no, all objects will still render if your view cone is within the bounding radius, no matter how many walls it's behind. The engine will still make the effort to create the render geometry, even if it's not visible.

Put exactportals in every building opening.

[SnaFuBAR]

do it for me, pedobear :smith:

[Jay2645]

Well sorry! No need to freak out! If only I had added [/sarcasm] you wouldn't have said this. The modern weapons in Unreal Tournament was true though, but the 'this is Halo!' was sarcasm. I, myself, was kind of bored of regular Halo 1 weapons, which is why I like modded weapons, which is why I play Snow_Grove a lot, because it's not boring old Halo 1 weapons. I would be playing Ambush a lot, but it lags my computer. Before you say it, yes, I know, my computer sucks, my brother's going to build a new one.
Why are we listening to what some 12 year old has to say? Halo's rated M for Mature, it's people with the high squeaky voices like you who give it a bad name. Go back to Halomaps.

ANYWAY, looking good, Snaf.

[SMASH]

I'd put exact portals on every entrance and that for ya. It'd be cake.

[SnaFuBAR]

every single window has a glass plane. could i add a plane in front of doors to make exact portals?

[SMASH]

I'd take the edges around the window, connect them, and create a new face in editable mesh for the portals.

[SnaFuBAR]

ah, i see.

new piece of real estate on the map, good for sniping from.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4417/tramkl1.jpg

[Sever]

Very nice! Be sure to have a sniper rifle of some sorts spawn in there, just because it would be so perfect. Also, break a hole in the ceiling of the tram car. The more destruction the better!

[JDMFSeanP]

Sniper spawn in the tram makes it an obsolete sniping spot as everyone will be looking at it.

[Con]

The more destruction the better!
This man speaks the truth. Making the place look like it was just devastated by bombs and warfare would be great. People like to see civilization in ruins.

[Sever]

Thus requiring you to be a good sniper and relocate. I don't get what it is with people and not relocating. Every time I get my hands on a sniper in-game, I'm always ready to haul ass to another point of the map to get the best vantage point with the most escape routes, and continue moving after each kill, and often before the kill is complete.

[SnaFuBAR]

the sniper spawning in the tram wouldn't be a bad thing at all to be honest. getting up there is elevated and exposed, anyone around can take potshots at you easily.

[n00b1n8R]

Sniper spawn in the tram makes it an obsolete sniping spot as everyone will be looking at it.

that's like saying the sniper tower on yoyorast sucks :v

I'd just make one spawn like 10 metres down the line so people have to go for a walk for amo (and so expose themselves).

[paintballakid5]

Snaf, i just wanna say: HOLY CRAP! your a modeling GOD.

umm thats it.. lol

[ima_from_America]

Or make the building behind it destroyed and put the Blues Brothers there.

[Apoc4lypse]

whoa... he added a train, uh snaf just a reminded this is halo CE you know.

Polys don't grow on trees in these parts. :D

Either way it still looks cool.

Also about a sniper being placed there I agree with putting the sniper not inside the train that way the sniper doesn't have the luxury of staying hidden all day and not having to move for ammo. I think it'd be a good idea to have it out on the track somewhere, so its possible for him to get picked off when hes going to get it; if your a good enough shot with the pistol, or another sniper.

EDIT:


Or make the building behind it destroyed and put the Blues Brothers there.

idk who this is but... whhaa? O_o lol

[Syuusuke]

Welcome to Modern Combat

WHERE NOTHING IS HALO.

[Masterz1337]

Why are we listening to what some 12 year old has to say? Halo's rated M for Mature, it's people with the high squeaky voices like you who give it a bad name. Go back to Halomaps.

ANYWAY, looking good, Snaf.
You're really not much better. Teh Lag was 13 when he got involved in the CE community, and he could already do things better than 80% of the community. Didn't YOU spawn from halomaps?:eek:

[SnaFuBAR]

WHERE NOTHING IS HALO.

indeed. and we've made some neat improvements which you guys should really really like. my lips are sealed.

start guessing.

[n00b1n8R]

You're really not much better. Teh Lag was 13 when he got involved in the CE community, and he could already do things better than 80&#37; of the community. Didn't YOU spawn from halomaps?:eek: and me, mass, e3p0, kenny, flying stone and a few other people I can't think of off the top of my head :p

also, free blowjobs?

[PenGuin1362]

not free, but korn is offering, next question guess

[SnaFuBAR]

oh, i thought noob was offering. lol.

[Kalub]

The ability to... wait....


Fart?


*Runs up, crouch jumps in your face and smacks "q" 15 times for the gutbuster sound effect*

[itszutak]

not free, but korn is offering, next question guess
Throwing back grenades, a la COD4? :3

[n00b1n8R]

oh, i thought noob was offering. lol.
:v

also, sprint?

[SnaFuBAR]

keep guessing ^__^

[chicane]

Bipeds with decent dialog? Like jumping and breathing sounds and stuff?

[n00b1n8R]

decent looking bipeds?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

some pants?

[n00b1n8R]

realistic teabagging animation?

[thehoodedsmack]

slowmotion teabagging animation?

[Syuusuke]

Roundhouse kicking?

[Sever]

Roundhouse kicking?
Come on Snaf, every map needs more Chuck Norris!

[PenGuin1362]

Roundhouse kicking?

you sir, are brilliant. but no, that's not it.

[SnaFuBAR]

keep guessing, ladies.

[Botolf]

Slitting people's throats?

[Masterz1337]

Throwing knives? If not I can add those in for you :-D.

[SnaFuBAR]

think harder guyz

[thehoodedsmack]

You can't make me! C'mon. Drop us a hint.

[SnaFuBAR]

i don't know what to tell you guys.

[chicane]

Nightvision? Heatvision? Cowvision?

[SnaFuBAR]

Nightvision? Heatvision? Cowvision?
actually thought about night and heatvision, but meh.

[Ki11a_FTW]

awesome ww2 zoom? (like in the COD games you can focus in)

[SnaFuBAR]

wtf is ww2 zoom...

[Ki11a_FTW]

i meant ww2 zoom becuase only most world war 2 games have it

[Kiwibird]

You mean "Iron Sights"?

[chicane]

Iron sights are ugly. Also, if this is modern combat then they're a bit out of place. Can you give us a hint snaf? Is it something gameplay changing or just a cool feature?

[PenGuin1362]

no, they're useful. and wtf does out of place mean? every gun in the universe from ww1 and up has iron sights. it's not only ww2 -_-

[Abstract.Error]

Sprinting?

[chicane]

no, they're useful. and wtf does out of place mean? every gun in the universe from ww1 and up has iron sights. it's not only ww2 -_-

Well we have scopes now.

[Kalub]

y helo thar pistol scope


owait my eye hurts, stupid 32 special



In other news, its fart - definitely. Notice how he didn't deny it, and his d was italicized to signify the d in, "I just busted ass."

[Boba]

Well we have scopes now.
Uh, you're not going to put a scope on a Skorpion or a Mini-Uzi.

[DaneO'Roo]

Oh dam snaf, now I miss max :(

I have to use shitty blender at college right now <:mad:>

yes, fuck you

Also, if I were to guess, I'd say it's a james bond car.

[Syuusuke]

think harder guyz

Dildo guns.

[DaneO'Roo]

dildo hammers

[itszutak]

italicized letters spell ads. o_0

[n00b1n8R]

actually thought about night and heatvision, but meh.
heat vision would be epic, especially if you could see people in buildings and had wall piercing shots.

[SnaFuBAR]

You mean "Iron Sights"?

italicized letters spell ads. o_0

we're on to something here.

[Sever]

If I see a McDonald's or Starbuck's anywhere in your damn city, well, it'll make me want to shoot stuff.

Which is good, I guess.

[n00b1n8R]

It'll make me want to shoot stuff in a bad way.

[p0lar_bear]

What, this mod's going to give us all AIDS?!

Shit. :gonk:

[Bodzilla]

italicized letters spell ads. o_0
thats what i originally thought, but i was to lazy to quote each of his replys. because it was like 11pm and i had to go to work at 7:30.

i'm only one man :gonk:
i would put it down to Billboards and signs around the city. sorta like in new mombassa classic.


What, this mod's going to give us all AIDS?!

Shit. :gonk:
and that was the joke i was gunna thrown in on-the-side for shameless rep :)

[SnaFuBAR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwibird http://www.h2vista.net/forums/h2vista_v2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?p=224100#post224100)
You mean "Iron Sights"?

Quote:
Originally Posted by itszutak http://www.h2vista.net/forums/h2vista_v2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?p=224204#post224204)
italicized letters spell ads. o_0

we're on to something here.
C O U G H! C O U G H!

[Bodzilla]

OMG

it's ads for Iron sights!
i knew it all along. a Fiendish plan Snaf, but we have seen through your wicked ways.

[SnaFuBAR]

o noe we r teh bustid, peng! D:

[Bodzilla]

shut up and fap to it :D


but seriously i have no clue ;__;

[n00b1n8R]

wait, there's ads for iron sights around the map?

>__>

[Sever]

Ads for the weapons that you can use?

[Con]

idgi

[Monopoly]

I believe he's hinting at add-ons for weapons, I could be wrong though.

[PenGuin1362]

ads stands for aim down sights, file name for the animation used for aiming down the sights of a gun, well what cad likes to call it.



o noe we r teh bustid, peng! D:

oh noes time for teh picture?...owait they dgi >_<

[SnaFuBAR]

i think they might get it now. well at least i hope so. we might actually have to post pix so they get it >__<

[n00b1n8R]

you get to aim down sights?
whoop de doo.

[Jay2645]

Don't you aim on a weapon with sights by using the sights in the first place?

I think we could use a picture or two...

[Botolf]

Ironsights are cool, much cooler than goofy reticles.

[SnaFuBAR]

you get to aim down sights?
whoop de doo.
whoop de doo indeed. no other CE map has this function that has been released, much less any total conversions.:eyesroll:

[Masterz1337]

LDS doesn't actaully improve your aim in this does it? We expirmented with ironsights for SPv2, but decided it didn't improve or further gameplay.

[Monopoly]

whoop de doo indeed. no other CE map has this function that has been released, much less any total conversions.:eyesroll:

This is incorrect. http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1592 (http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1592)

[PenGuin1362]

silly snaf that's where i learned to do the ads >_<

[SnaFuBAR]

well, it's not a total conversion, so my point stands. also, yes, it improves your aim considerably.

[Flyboy]

This is incorrect. http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1592 (http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1592)
I just played it and thats really not ads. All they did was make a scope, and instead of using a ridicule they made the model cover over the ridicule. What these guys are doing (at least I think) is more in line with COD scopes. The accuracy changes upon zooming, while in halo it remains the same, you just can see your target better. Good map though.

[PenGuin1362]

gah enough ridiculous speculation. we took peoples advice from ambush and decided to give people iron sights. they are simply a scope mask, therefore no animations, however it magnifies your view slightly, and improves your aim. also looks pretty decent (granted the weapons aren't skinned).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/ironsightfinal.jpg

[Syuusuke]

You should be moving slower when you zoom. =(

[chicane]

shouldn't the gun tilt slightly to the left?

[SnaFuBAR]

why would it do that? and no.

[PenGuin1362]

You should be moving slower when you zoom. =(

oh but you do :)

[Syuusuke]

Oh ho ho ho.

Does the gun "move" when you move while you're aiming?

[n00b1n8R]

well that's good to see, but I don't think it was worth 4 pages.

[SnaFuBAR]

well, don't blame us for that, blame the fact that people were spamming unfunny, unintelligent guesses. ;)

[Btd69]

Oh ho ho ho.

Does the gun "move" when you move while you're aiming?

That's all in the animation, not exactly difficult to do..

[Bodzilla]

well, don't blame us for that, blame the fact that people were spamming unfunny, unintelligent guesses. ;)
what you talking about willis?
:P

sounds cool i'll check it out when it's released.

how goes texturing and what not, and how is the gameplay?

[SnaFuBAR]

well from the start the gameplay has been really good. we're going to compile and test ironsights in this most recent bsp soon, though. texturing and "whatnot" are relatively slow at the moment. i've had a couple of other things pop up recently :|

[n00b1n8R]

herpe's is a bitch hey snaf.

[Btd69]

Nah he recently had a hip replacement.

[Ki11a_FTW]

o noe we r teh bustid, peng! D:
TAHAHAHA i knew it!!

[SnaFuBAR]

herpe's is a bitch hey snaf.
i wouldn't know about that. you speaking from experience? D:

Nah he recently had a hip replacement.
well hey your mother loves it rough. a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

[Btd69]

Yeah, my mother is into older men.. sigh.

[n00b1n8R]

Yeah, my mother is into older men.. sigh.
:v

[Heathen]

HI....IM NEW....but you can tell I'm sure...
I started playing halo CE about two years ago and I was interested in making maps....but then I found out that its somewhat challenging....so I quit like I always do and leave it up to the people that do it best...which is why I came to this forum :D...and as for the "ads"

I saw something like that on BitterBanana's youtube a long time ago...is that the same thing (if anyone knows what I mean...)

[Syuusuke]

Maybe you can link us to the youtube video?

[Heathen]

Well I looked earlier before my post but he deleted it...in fact....he deleted ALL of his videos on his Halo stuff...its just his guitar videos (he is really good tbh)...but dont he and Kornman00 kind of work together a bit? (Im almost certain)

Mb he would know what I'm talking about...

[PenGuin1362]

the way yellow did aiming was they moved the location of the camera to line up with the gun to make it look like it's aiming (irrc).

[Heathen]

But it was smoothely done and had a COD feel to it....

[n00b1n8R]

but this isn't a COD mod :downs:

[Heathen]

Damn, you got me there :D

But wouldn't you agree that Call of Duty is a good reference on how to make a good Modern Combat game? (I know I talk alot about COD4...sry)

[PenGuin1362]

no because cod 4 is very inaccurate in many ways. also, we're not making a call of duty mod. we're making our own mod using our own references. if you want to play cod4 then go play it. we are not in anyway attempting to recreate cod4

[Scooby Doo]

well...if i were going to try to get it to work like call of duty(or any other modern war game), i'd eliminate the flashlight and just add in the iron-sights for that, animations and all. guns with a scope can still have zoom...because that wouldn't add any zoom to it. mb that could work, mb not...


~Scoob

[Heathen]

Ok, your right....I just meant it was a good game.

[JDMFSeanP]

well...if i were going to try to get it to work like call of duty(or any other modern war game), i'd eliminate the flashlight and just add in the iron-sights for that, animations and all. guns with a scope can still have zoom...because that wouldn't add any zoom to it. mb that could work, mb not...


~Scoob

TBH that doesn't matter, a scoped gun when using ironsights would just go into its scope. Scoped weapons don't have iron sights.

[SnaFuBAR]

Scoped weapons don't have iron sights.
actually, they do. even the barrett .50 sniper rifle has folding buis (back up iron sights).

[Flyboy]

actually, they do. even the barrett .50 sniper rifle has folding buis (back up iron sights).
Speaking of the Barret, when is the US going to replace it with the AS50?

Or would that be never?

[Leiukemia]

Speaking of the Barret, when is the US going to replace it with the AS50?

Or would that be never?

Good question for a thread that has something to do with it. This thread, unfortunantly, does not. Also, yeah I remember that thing from yellow. That would actually be really sweet because the gun moves and stuff.

[PenGuin1362]

that's entirely possible with animations. quite simple to. done it many times before. here's my comparison of each.

Animation:
pros:
Arms and gun move as player moves.
an actual animation is played when aiming down the sights
looks a bit nicer
cons:
can't zoom, sights are very small otherwise if they were closer the model would start to clip and it'd look ugly

Scope Mask
pros:
Can actually zoom and provide aim assist to give the sights some purpose other than just a crosshair.
Less obstructing sights, not looking through a tiny little hole.
cons:
no animations, it's just a mask.

so i went with the more useful of the 2

[JDMFSeanP]

actually, they do. even the barrett .50 sniper rifle has folding buis (back up iron sights).

I ment it in more of a games don't use the ironsights on snipers, thats where you scope in when you hit the button kinda way.

[SnaFuBAR]

oh. hah.

[n00b1n8R]

if there isn't a flashlight, I don't suppose that could be used for ironsights and the zoom actually zoom?

[SnaFuBAR]

more like sprint. (if we can)

[n00b1n8R]

was there halo style grenade throwing, or did you have to have the weapon drawn?
I can't remember.

[Kiwibird]

It was Halo style. You press the Right Bumper to throw a frag grenade.

[falconsfootball07]

i had to post in this, looks amazing dude
i remember beta testing this like almost a year and a half ago with you
great work!

[PenGuin1362]

holy shit where did you come from! O_O way to disappear for like 2 years >:|. yea that was way back when we had 2 separate mods and i couldn't model for shit and snaf was all like rahhh new mod

[falconsfootball07]

holy shit where did you come from! O_O way to disappear for like 2 years >:|. yea that was way back when we had 2 separate mods and i couldn't model for shit and snaf was all like rahhh new mod
Lmao, how have you been dude? I got out of halo modeling and modeling in general but i would still talk to snaf on aol once and a while. And he said that he posted some updates so i had to check it out. Once its released im gonna reinstall halo for it :D

[SnaFuBAR]

needs more texturing but :effort:

[paintballakid5]

this thread kinda Died:suicide:

so i actually wanna see some more of this map:)

so can we bring it back? snaf more pictures please!:woop:

[SnaFuBAR]

not an update, sorry guys. I'm wondering if anyone wants to texture this bsp. that's the only thing that needs to be done. post a few links to prior work if you're interested.

[Pooky]

I'm wondering if anyone wants to texture this bsp. that's the only thing that needs to be done.

That seems to happen a lot with you huh?

[SnaFuBAR]

yeah, texturing seems to be the bane of mapping.

[MetKiller Joe]

yeah, texturing seems to be the bane of mapping.

I've got a friend in UMass Boston (I think that's where he's going to) who majors in art. I'll ask him if he'd do some texture work.

I'd volunteer to do UVs, but I'm probably just a peon compared to most people in this forum.

[PenGuin1362]

Yeah there's about 5 people who can properly texture in the entire ce community and all 5 have their own stuff to work on. and one should be doing textures for a certain pit <:mad:>

[SnaFuBAR]

I've got a friend in UMass Boston (I think that's where he's going to) who majors in art. I'll ask him if he'd do some texture work.

I'd volunteer to do UVs, but I'm probably just a peon compared to most people in this forum.
show me some work:)

[Timo]

Yeah there's about 5 people who can properly texture in the entire ce community and all 5 have their own stuff to work on. and one should be doing textures for a certain pit <:mad:>
And one should be doing textures for a certain UI D:<

[SnaFuBAR]

i think people are just threatened by the amount of awesome in my bsp work lol

[n00b1n8R]

Or your ego. :downs:

[SnaFuBAR]

or my knowledge and experience which they perceive as ego, because they don't know the difference.

[Geo]

What if you have all three? Haha jk

[SnaFuBAR]

then one is a result of doing well with the other two xD. SO! is anyone capable of doing this?

[Apoc4lypse]

indeed. and we've made some neat improvements which you guys should really really like. my lips are sealed.

start guessing.

*finishes skimming through about 11 pages of nothing*

Wow, and this was the only important post... you guys talk alot, what is this a chat room...

So heres what I got out of 11 pages of stuff and nothingness jibber...

Snaf hinted at some new addition to game play, everyone began guessing, then snaf kept saying "keep guessing" good job, you egged them on to 10 pages of nothing snaf... :lol: /sarcasm but seriously. lol

Then after that I see snaf wants his map textured.

I'd volunteer, but I already know the answer is no, because me and you both know that I'm not the man for the job, unless you want the map finished after were both dead. :D



yeah, texturing seems to be the bane of mapping.

amen to that... XD

I make maps, and they never get textured, let alone tested, I never get to alpha textures, I'm too lazy to assign material id's, plus I lose interest. o well.

[Rentafence]

*finishes skimming through about 11 pages of nothing*

Wow, and this was the only important post... you guys talk alot, what is this a chat room...

So heres what I got out of 11 pages of stuff and nothingness jibber...

Snaf hinted at some new addition to game play, everyone began guessing, then snaf kept saying "keep guessing" good job, you egged them on to 10 pages of nothing snaf... :lol: /sarcasm but seriously. lol

Huh what no. He told us that the weapons are going to have iron sites, ala COD4.

[Tweek]

SO! is anyone capable of doing this?

yes

[MetKiller Joe]

@Snaf:

I asked my friend, but he's never made a texture in his life (and he doesn't seem very serious about it).

As a UVer, I have the least experience of, probably, anyone on these forums. You've looked through my stuff on HM (the bridge NOT the pitiful bridge ends I'm working on). I did the UVing for that, but that is honestly nothing.

Again, not like you were considering, but I'm don't think I'd be good for the experience and skill part of the job (the time and patience part I have ;) ).

[Heathen]

*finishes skimming through about 11 pages of nothing*

Wow, and this was the only important post... you guys talk alot, what is this a chat room...

So heres what I got out of 11 pages of stuff and nothingness jibber...

Snaf hinted at some new addition to game play, everyone began guessing, then snaf kept saying "keep guessing" good job, you egged them on to 10 pages of nothing snaf... :lol: /sarcasm but seriously. lol

Then after that I see snaf wants his map textured.

I'd volunteer, but I already know the answer is no, because me and you both know that I'm not the man for the job, unless you want the map finished after were both dead. :D




amen to that... XD

I make maps, and they never get textured, let alone tested, I never get to alpha textures, I'm too lazy to assign material id's, plus I lose interest. o well.


Anyone else see the irony in this besides me?

[MetKiller Joe]

Anyone else see the irony in this besides me?

Epic self-fail.

[ima_from_America]

4 words: black and white filter. Anyway, I also know some people who can UV pretty good. I'll ask them if they can help.

[PenGuin1362]

Hell I'll uv it if I have to, that's not really the issue here. We need textures before we can even consider uving. So less uvers, more texture artists.

[Apoc4lypse]

Epic self-fail.

Thanks, and I supposed both of your posts were more constructive than mine right? Nice troll job boys. ;-P
*sighs* I swear...

EDIT: Oh yea, I'm an artist, if that helps, idk, I've been wanting to give making textures a try for a long time, just I don't think snaf is looking for people to "try" heh.

[Heathen]

damn.....I'm a hypocrite.

[Apoc4lypse]

damn.....I'm a hypocrite.

yes you are you douche bag, and I never ever ever stated that I wasn't one my self because it was self implied in my original post, not to mention again that me and snaf are friends and that it was a joke between me and him.

So bud the hell out, no one cares what you have to say, at least most of everyone I know doesn't let it fuken go, go get laid, get drunk or something just get the fuck off my back you stupid pos.

btw mods, I want an infraction for this fuken slam me with it, give it to me bitchessss; were all hypocrites in the end tho arnt we lmfao. fuken retards, some of you might be smart but my hope for finding intelligence on this forum is gone.

E. rofl, what was I onto when I typed this what ev.. lmao

[ima_from_America]

Intelligence found
http://www.gotfrag.com/files/upload/ninex_redintel.jpg
Anyway, is there going to be any weather effects in the map, or is it just plain day/night?

[SnaFuBAR]

fog/rain at dusk

[PenGuin1362]

Needs more textures plz >:|.

[Heathen]

I get it....I got owned...stfu :D

Edit:

I was snaf. I was trying to get him to stop bitching... I admitted defeat when I said I was a hypocrite....but he's persistant.

[SnaFuBAR]

take your quarrels elsewhere, didn't you just say that in another topic? oh right you did. shut up.

anyone interested in working on this at all? i promise i won't be biting heads off for minor imperfections.

[TeeKup]

Seriously, some of you should really get to know snaf more, he won't put your head on a pike.

[Roth]

I played Black (I loved it till the end), would be awesome to see this ingame

[SnaFuBAR]

Smash is going to give texturing a go. This map may actually see a release!:ohsnap:

[TeeKup]

OH HELL YES.

[Pooky]

Smash is going to give texturing a go. This map may actually see a release!:ohsnap:

haha that's pretty funny tell us another one

[SnaFuBAR]

i might open source some of the content.

[SMASH]

haha that's pretty funny tell us another one

Nevermind.

[SnaFuBAR]

He's joking because I never released a map >__>

[SMASH]

Oh, my bad then Pooky, I thought it was a personal stab at me.

[Pooky]

Oh, my bad then Pooky, I thought it was a personal stab at me.
Nope, but maybe once I know you better :-3

[SMASH]

UPDATE:

I've been working on the roads and sidewalks and dividers and this is what I have so far:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4759/renderob8.png

[Rentafence]

Sidewalks are rather ew. I like the road though.

[SMASH]

The sidewalks were supposed to be burnt/dirty and it didn't exactly come out great

[ima_from_America]

If the sidewalks are supposed to be burnt and dirty, that's a bit of a contrast from the roads. Just add a little bit more disrepair to them (think highway 17 roads).