High-Resolution-Halo

[Bad Waffle]

Sorry to say if you don't care so much get your ass off the forums and don't come back.

Until you can prove me wrong in many places I will never come to the conclusion of ever liking you.

Now go cry some more. :fuckoff:

Actually, most of the time i do spend off the forums, and i've never needed help getting off the forums (unlike you, mr banned and then pleaded to come back).

And if you understood the post (which is to say, you really didnt) it was about how much of an rats ass (none) i gave about the people freaking out about me not posting a debug. Honestly, it wasnt a conspiracy, it was just not worth my time to post a debug to a person who judged evo on a pre-alpha unfinished-visualization stage compared to his released mod, and an old friend who thinks everything i do goes with conspiracy (yes, you rob ;P )

And sorry, i don't cry or even get barely emotional over things that won't end up changing my life or a close one's life for the worst. Apparently too many people nowdays don't respect themselves enough to hold in the tears over the small things, eh terror?

Also, off the record--i have nothing against you terror, even though you foolishly got involved between me and my ex, even though you foolishly ignored many a people trying to help and, and even though you foolishly walked into this topic, posted that disrespectful spew, and hoped that you would look like a badass stating his opinion. If you said that to my face without a good explanation, and continued that behaviour even though the subject would be dropped, your balls would be kicked so far up you would be sneezing white stuff. But, it appears that your testes are yet to drop and are firmly held in place by what im guessing to be whitey tighties.

OH! PERSONAL ATTACK! That ones for you, bod.

Alright, public entertainment over, shittoss done. Terror, if you are really intent on wasting not just my time, but your own, feel free to pm me (http://www.modacity.net/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=86). ITS FREE!

[Ki11a_FTW]

could we get a poly count? :-3

E: Zeph i want an infraction!

[Bad Waffle]

could we get a poly count? :-3

40302, my good sir

[Zeph]

dammit people
on topic now
I've had to delete posts after f5'ing three times now.

[Ki11a_FTW]

:O, kickass, i have very high expectations for this wol, don't let me down!

[SnaFuBAR]

40302, my good sir
you need about 50,000 more polies bro, i'm not running this on my laptop.

[Pooky]

Wow, I really wasn't expecting it to look that good. I'm with dg, I'm reinstalling CE (again) for this.

[Zeph]

you need about 50,000 more polies bro, i'm not running this on my laptop.

It's just the BSP, not counting scenery and crap.

[SnaFuBAR]

i don't care, pump this shit up mang.

[Bad Waffle]

dude, there's gonna be at least 150k of detail objects that are sceneried for LOD's etc, so im trying to keep the main thing down. Also, max renderable tris in one frame is hardcoded into the engine and a BITCH to work with in such an open map. I'm practically done modelling save for a few things, then im going to work my ass off to portal it.

[Ki11a_FTW]

halo starts to stop rendering faces around 20000(which can be fixed by portals), i dont think it could even compile 100000 :-o

[Bad Waffle]

well, it doesnt 'compile' 100k, it compiles the individual model instances, and its up to the engine to render it. TIME TO PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT.

[jngrow]

WALK ALONG THE RAZORS EDGE.

Seriously though, this looks baby-stomping awesome. Keep gon!

[Bad Waffle]

Heh, that reminds me when somebody said i should go with my plan to line the streets with dead babies or something like that.

Oh, the controversy in this topic.

[Kalub]

Also, used heroin needles.

[Bastinka]

Don't forget the Bob Marley billboards!

[Heathen]

And the hookers.
But really. Textures can make or break a map.

I hope you dont get this far and then it looks shitty.

E: also, 5 REPPIES.

[Bad Waffle]

me? texturing shitty? come on. Look at those shnazzy roads.

[Bastinka]

Rainbow Mombasa, now for the straights...

[dg]

Build a rough test map and let me play it.

Oh wait, I'm just saying what everyone, minus some attention seeking kid, is thinking. Fuck.

[Heathen]

No. The day you get touretts and become a pedo is the day you start saying what I am thinking.

[Bad Waffle]

Me and NMC junkie Dal just compared notes on NMC, we ran through the map and he reminded me of a few things. Updates to a few things soon!

[p0lar_bear]

I have to say that the addition of the out-of-map area around the map is great; many CE maps lack that extra atmosphere, and I always liked the extra details Bungie threw into their Halo 3 maps in the forms of unreachable areas.

Portals are still quite screwy, and I know there isn't much you can do about it, especially right now, since you'll be adding and subtracting from the map as time goes on. The tops of the bases have a tendency to flicker in and out of existence as you walk around.

You're missing the buildings that should go right next to the hog cages across from both bases.

For your next test build, please use a sky that illuminates everything (no shadows)? I can't see a lot of things very well and I get disoriented easily trying to figure out how things look.

[Dal]

There's plenty that still needs to be modeled and portaled, obviously. I didn't get disoriented easily (but I am fairly visual, take that for what you will), and I think it's worth trying to recapture the atmosphere of NMC (noticeable shading, but nothing too dark). I think it's worth noting that the build ran fine on both my 8800 and my laptop's punier 7600 GO; so even with triple the polies (+ texture space) I don't think it'll pose a threat to modern hardware, at least not more than NMC did when it first came out.

[SnaFuBAR]

i had absolutely no problems on my 512mb x2600xt other than the aforementioned portaling errors.

[Heathen]

Snaf...will I be able to play this?

[Bad Waffle]

There's plenty that still needs to be modeled and portaled, obviously. I didn't get disoriented easily (but I am fairly visual, take that for what you will), and I think it's worth trying to recapture the atmosphere of NMC (noticeable shading, but nothing too dark). I think it's worth noting that the build ran fine on both my 8800 and my laptop's punier 7600 GO; so even with triple the polies (+ texture space) I don't think it'll pose a threat to modern hardware, at least not more than NMC did when it first came out.
Dark shading, i agree. I was thinking of maybe dusk so i could bring out some colors.


I have to say that the addition of the out-of-map area around the map is great; many CE maps lack that extra atmosphere, and I always liked the extra details Bungie threw into their Halo 3 maps in the forms of unreachable areas.

Portals are still quite screwy, and I know there isn't much you can do about it, especially right now, since you'll be adding and subtracting from the map as time goes on. The tops of the bases have a tendency to flicker in and out of existence as you walk around.

You're missing the buildings that should go right next to the hog cages across from both bases.

For your next test build, please use a sky that illuminates everything (no shadows)? I can't see a lot of things very well and I get disoriented easily trying to figure out how things look.

At moment--the only 'portals' were the exact portals, and i dont believe they were even working. So, the errors you saw were simply the engine overflowing. Polar, i dont know what you're talking about, you should turn up your gamma--i can see everything. And yes, im actually missing 4 buildings.



Let's look at my checklist:



Finish modelling the buildings (the corner by the base, and the highway sided buildings)
Shrink the highway entrance and make it merge into the lanes, not become the lane
Finish modelling the bases (the garage, the extra paths)
Fix the starcases of hell
Finish the Parking Structure
Finish the connecting section of one of the outlying buildings
Make curbs lower
Finish walkways from base to adjacent buildings
Finish pathway along the buildings to OS
Model highway doors (and overhead FRG place thing)
Finish the doors and energy field thingy to serve as boundary markers for map
Anything i forgot, guys?

[Rob Oplawar]

could we get a poly count? :-3

40302, my good sir
OH COME ON. ARE YOU F***ING SERIOUS? AN INSTANTANEOUS RESPONSE?! IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY TO DRIVE ME CRAZY!
http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/extra/tinfoil.gif
The transparency on those renders makes it kind of hard to see what's going on in there, but it's still damn cool looking. May I ask what technique you used for that?
eee: oh ok, now i understand the renders. nvm.

Also, I'm very impressed that you've kept it down to 40k. Now I'm willing to believe that you'll actually get this to work, especially if you do a lot of your detail in LOD'd scenery. +rep if I can.

e: your rep get reset, WoL? ,':|
ee: *looks more closely* oic. well fine, don't have my +rep! >=U

[Limited]

I'm not getting excited till I see some ingame pictures. We know you are a beast at modelling, but this is called high res halo. Not high res render that might go into halo on a good day?

I have my doubts, but still, good job so far.

[Bad Waffle]

ohoho, without a problem, limited. BRB, going ingame.

[leorimolo]

Very Nice, hopefully well see ingame by the end of the day no?

[DrunkenSamus]

Let's hope so...also :O Terror has two neg rep bars. LMFAO I've never seen that before in my life EVER!

[Bad Waffle]

Leorimolo, its been ingame for about 12 hours approx.

[Rentafence]

so post ingame pics ffs. :mad:

[Heathen]

HAHA, I guess IM'ing his post around worked.
E:about terrors rep.

[leorimolo]

Leorimolo, its been ingame for about 12 hours approx.

I demand pictures nao

[Bad Waffle]

pics am uploading :saddowns:

[Rentafence]

Upload faster. Switch ISP's right now or something.

[ItsMeTerror]

I actually want the neg rep bars, I want more than Ghost.:D E: He has +Rep now D:
It's nice to hear you have it in-game.
I'm glad you have nothing against me WOL, to be honest I don't have anything against you either. I just at random times like to cause hell whether it be with you or anyone else in the forums. :eyesroll:
It will be nice to have something good released in the HCE community since it hasn't seen much lately. I'm also tired of seeing all those stupid maps get released on Halomaps. You should make some stuff for H2V also and bring it out of the shit hole.
:dramabomb:

[Ki11a_FTW]

ahhhahahah, i didnt know you could get 2 red bars

and wol, Ingame pix plox

[Heathen]

hell weather

Like a hurricane?

[ItsMeTerror]

Yes indeed!

[Bad Waffle]

I actually want the neg rep bars, I want more than Ghost.:D E: He has +Rep now D:
It's nice to hear you have it in-game.
I'm glad you have nothing against me WOL, to be honest I don't have anything against you either. I just at random times like to cause hell whether it be with you or anyone else in the forums. :eyesroll:
It will be nice to have something good released in the HCE community since it hasn't seen much lately. I'm also tired of seeing all those stupid maps get released on Halomaps. You should make some stuff for H2V also and bring it out of the shit hole.
:dramabomb:

Oh shut the fuck up, you drama queen. Just get out. I don't want none of that "OH I WANT MORE NEG REP IT DOESNT MATTER DO IT" shit. Just get out. Maybe once you grow up you'll realize you cant say "OH SORRY LEMME TRY AGAIN I WONT BE A BITCH THIS TIME I PROMISE!" Because in reality, nobody gives a fuck :)

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As you can see in a few pics, sometimes the geometry pops--but a lot less than before, so progress is good.

[Hunter]

WoL, you going to re skin the banshee? And other vehicles?

Would you use a Halo 3 Ghost model?

[Inferno]

I thought you were not going to have a banshee in the High Res Halo Maps.

In Fact...
shee is gay, you are gay

-edit-

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Wave of Lag again.

[ItsMeTerror]

I never said give me another chance. I do out of all seriousness want the -rep

[Heathen]

GAH STFU


Also...is that the visor thing on everything? Looks like a lavalamp.

[Bastinka]

I wish I was cute enough for WoL to be a part of this. :'[

[Kalub]

I remember the last build.... or the last one you let me see.


Lol gold.

[Bad Waffle]

WoL, you going to re skin the banshee? And other vehicles?

Would you use a Halo 3 Ghost model?
look at the first page for stuff we're going to remodel, and no, we wouldn't use a halo 3 model.


I never said give me another chance. I do out of all seriousness want the -rep
seriously, stop posting. posting goes on the thought that people actually want to hear your opinion, which is deadly wrong.

[FRain]

Like a hurricane?

No, like a himmicane.

:v:

[Heathen]

WIN!

[Higuy]

sexy map is sexy

[ItsMeTerror]

seriously, stop posting. posting goes on the thought that people actually want to hear your opinion, which is deadly wrong.

I have my right here to post just as everyone else does.

[Heathen]

Then just stop being a fuck up and we wont care >_>

And tell me your not a fuck up so I can redirect your attention to your little red bars. But lo and behold...Mr iwantnegativerep has hidden that which he wanted >.> E: (the little worm has unhidden it >.<)

Srs dude. I didnt start out hating you. Respect is something that is earned....so is disrespect.





ANYWAYS!


What is next in this map collection?

[teh lag]

I have my right here to post just as everyone else does.

First, posting here is a privilige. You've already been banned once, so that statement coming from you holds even less wieght.

Second, he has just as much of a "right" to tell you that you're not wanted here.


Mr. Wol, I do hope the next time we have a beta that there are less collision holes :V

[dg]

Geometry popping not cool.

:-(

Seriously though, it's hard to even play because of the holes that keep appearing and reappearing. I do really love the modeling. It brings me back!

[Bad Waffle]

I have my right here to post just as everyone else does.

Actually, you dont. You have no clue what rights are.


First, posting here is a privilige. You've already been banned once, so that statement coming from you holds even less wieght.

Second, he has just as much of a "right" to tell you that you're not wanted here.


Mr. Wol, I do hope the next time we have a beta that there are less collision holes :V

Wut collision holes, theres only rendering holes <_<


Then just stop being a fuck up and we wont care >_>

And tell me your not a fuck up so I can redirect your attention to your little red bars. But lo and behold...Mr iwantnegativerep has hidden that which he wanted >.> E: (the little worm has unhidden it >.<)

Srs dude. I didnt start out hating you. Respect is something that is earned....so is disrespect.





ANYWAYS!


What is next in this map collection?

Next in the line of maps would be Longest--i need a good small map to do before i go insane with this huge one.


Geometry popping not cool.

:-(

Seriously though, it's hard to even play because of the holes that keep appearing and reappearing. I do really love the modeling. It brings me back!

baww, it doesnt pop THAT much!

[Sever]

For Longest, I'm guessing that you'll be keeping the Forerunner theme, but detailing the playable area and expanding the non-playable area, right? If you need any help with giving the map better function to its form, and vice versa, feel free to ask me.

[DarkHalo003]

"Probably Late Summer 2008"

LOL. xD

[Pooky]

Offtopic, who noticed that terror actually got 2 red bars without an admin doing it.

lol

[SnaFuBAR]

who noticed he's banned? :awesome:

[Bad Waffle]

For Longest, I'm guessing that you'll be keeping the Forerunner theme, but detailing the playable area and expanding the non-playable area, right? If you need any help with giving the map better function to its form, and vice versa, feel free to ask me.

Im a bit confused on pretty much your whole post. I'm just upressing it.

[Inferno]

who noticed he's banned? :awesome:

:lol:

And no one i know deserved it more.

[Sever]

So, WoL, what will you be doing to Longest's BSP then, if anything? If all you're doing is retexturing, then where's the point in that?

[SnaFuBAR]

he's making the mesh higher resolution...

[Bad Waffle]

since when does upressing only count as upping just the textures?

[Sever]

That's why I asked what you'll be changing with the BSP. Let me rephrase myself. How will you change the Longest, which is currently just a bunch of flat walls with insets/bevels/chamfers and a few pits and ramps, into a high-detail, yet still snagless playing area? Also, will you be doing anything to give the level a purpose? Right now, it is just a long hallway that has not much to it to make it appear Forerunner other than a limited number of angular areas and the standard textures.

[p0lar_bear]

Anyone else posting about Terror, at Terror, or Terror posting anything else in this thread that's not directly related to the map will be met with a kick to the eGroin. Even if it contains content relevant to the thread.

That is all.

[FRain]

Terror.

:v:

Anyways, nice looking map WOL. I can't wait to play it. Lets just hope that my POS can run it. It's not that shitty, though. I hope a x1650 with a POS processor with about 15 bugs can run it.

[Dal]

Woo, we just ironed out a bazillion things, or one big thing. So map quality +++.

[DOMINATOR]

why would you even waste your time on Longest?
redo prisoner or something instead.

NMC looks real nice... rather see clay renders though.

[p0lar_bear]

Longest is a fun map until the faggot server admins do it wrong and cram 16 people in there for KOTH matches. Honestly, I'm for chaotic games and everything, but there is a fine line between "chaotic and fast-paced" and "shitty grenade spamfest."

[The_Wraith]

Longest is a fun map until the faggot server admins do it wrong and cram 16 people in there for KOTH matches. Honestly, I'm for chaotic games and everything, but there is a fine line between "chaotic and fast-paced" and "shitty grenade spamfest."Through experiance I've learned that KOTH will always be a nadefest. It's pretty much the essence of the gametype. Winning proves you are the best at surviving 10+ nades blowing off in your face.

[n00b1n8R]

Well if that isn't worth bragging about, I don't know what is! :awesome:

[Malloy]

King of the hill?

[FRain]

^ Quite correct.

[Inferno]

Re-do Damnation next. I want to see that map in 600000000 polys! :p

Damnation is probably my favorite map cause it has a lot more variety and its one of the more complex levels in halo. Its extremely entertaining on some game type. Personally i love Team Elim Invis Snipers. Its crazy.

[FRain]

Derelict, mine by far.

[Inferno]

Derelict, mine by far.

Derelicts a fun snipers map. But i always felt it was too open for regular slayer.

[Pooky]

Yes do Damnation... best damn map in the game


That's why I asked what you'll be changing with the BSP. Let me rephrase myself. How will you change the Longest, which is currently just a bunch of flat walls with insets/bevels/chamfers and a few pits and ramps, into a high-detail, yet still snagless playing area? Also, will you be doing anything to give the level a purpose? Right now, it is just a long hallway that has not much to it to make it appear Forerunner other than a limited number of angular areas and the standard textures.

Also this. I'm curious how to plan to add more detail to Longest without changing the gameplay.

Unless you do plan on changing the gameplay.

[Inferno]

Why you guys so excited about longest. I never really saw any good game play in it... but then again i only played it like twice.

[Bad Waffle]

That's why I asked what you'll be changing with the BSP. Let me rephrase myself. How will you change the Longest, which is currently just a bunch of flat walls with insets/bevels/chamfers and a few pits and ramps, into a high-detail, yet still snagless playing area? Also, will you be doing anything to give the level a purpose? Right now, it is just a long hallway that has not much to it to make it appear Forerunner other than a limited number of angular areas and the standard textures.

Heh, ill do it the same way i did NMC, only in a forerunner style. But im actually thinking of asking Mass to do it, because he knows forerunner better than me.


why would you even waste your time on Longest?
redo prisoner or something instead.

NMC looks real nice... rather see clay renders though.

You know, i should ask neuro if he minds us taking that old redone prisoner bsp of his and using it for HRH...


Longest is a fun map until the faggot server admins do it wrong and cram 16 people in there for KOTH matches. Honestly, I'm for chaotic games and everything, but there is a fine line between "chaotic and fast-paced" and "shitty grenade spamfest."

Don't you remember the flamethrower only/pp only KOTH games on Longest? best thing EVER.


Re-do Damnation next. I want to see that map in 600000000 polys! :p

Damnation is probably my favorite map cause it has a lot more variety and its one of the more complex levels in halo. Its extremely entertaining on some game type. Personally i love Team Elim Invis Snipers. Its crazy.

You know, i was considering damnation, as its one of my favorites too. But one question--should i keep the covenant style, or go for a human style?

[Inferno]

Keep it covenant, but style it like halo 3 covie architecture. Make it more round and organic that would be beautiful. I would nerdgasm :lol:

[Rentafence]

Do damnation covered in flood shit, complete with sphincters.

[Inferno]

sphincters_door.device_machine FTW!

[FRain]

Lmao, if I had rep power I'd +rep both of you.

[Bad Waffle]

heh, flood shit...good idea :D

[Ki11a_FTW]

:fail: look what you guys did

but yeah, flood would be good for a level like damnation

[Rob Oplawar]

everybody but me got to test it.
sad rob is sad. :saddowns:

You know, come to think of it, I've seen gorgeous human, forerunner, and covenant levels in Halo CE, but I've never seen a well done flood level. Except for one, I forget what it was called, but it seemed more of a proof of concept than anything else, and was very minimalistic.

Of course there's a good reason there have been no good flood levels (that I've seen), and that's because it's really friggin hard to do that sort of organic material. But... We choose to go to the moon and do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard! did I get that quote right?

If you pull it off, I will be very impressed. I say go for it.

[Disaster]

everybody but me got to test it.
sad rob is sad. :saddowns:

You know, come to think of it, I've seen gorgeous human, forerunner, and covenant levels in Halo CE, but I've never seen a well done flood level. Except for one, I forget what it was called, but it seemed more of a proof of concept than anything else, and was very minimalistic.

Of course there's a good reason there have been no good flood levels (that I've seen), and that's because it's really friggin hard to do that sort of organic material. But... We choose to go to the moon and do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard! did I get that quote right?

If you pull it off, I will be very impressed. I say go for it.
You forgot me to but I'm a nobody :(

[Hotrod]

everybody but me got to test it.
So I guess I've become your alt now? Cool.

[Bad Waffle]

Only about 10 or so people played on the last one--most if not all just because they were NMC junkies who helped to point out a lot of errors to me.

[Lateksi]

Damnation, along with Chill Out is my favourite map too. Ideas for Dammy:
1. Scary, little dark, symbiot styled flood&covenant map.
2. Covenant styled, lots of "neon" lights here and there. Very colorful.

The images just came to my mind. Just so you know.

[Bad Waffle]

Well, i was planning on that anyway, so no worries.

[Bad Waffle]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3597/wowwiewowua7.jpg

[Reaper Man]

Pretty sweet. Also, needs moar mental ray lightmaps.

[DrunkenSamus]

Holy Shitakke mushrooms, Batman!

[ExAm]

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3597/wowwiewowua7.jpg
I don't think sidewalks would be made of titanium-A armor plating :|

[dg]

Looks like an awesome corner.

I expect great gameplay. ;-)

[Kalub]

y r it lewk so PS1 :(



I demand more sexy-time renders.

[Bad Waffle]

I don't think sidewalks would be made of titanium-A armor plating :|

EVERYTHING is made of titanium-A in the FUTURE. except for roads, of course.


Pretty sweet. Also, needs moar mental ray lightmaps.

I agree--but all the time it takes to set it up isnt worth it yet. Soon, though.

[Bad Waffle]

new shots, enjoy. I'm hoping to have all the buildings modeled by friday, by saturday ill get all the gameplay elements functioning correctly--and by sunday and beyond ill tweak with lighting and portals. There's a lot less popping of geometry--it'll hopefully go away with portals--but its looking better and better.

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left to do:

lower height of curbs
fix slide in bases
finish corner buildings
finish highway entrance geometry
remove rails on parking structures
model middle buildings
remodel one of the base-side buildings
add lights
fix exact portals
add portals

[Reaper Man]

I came. Awesome work. :awesome:

Also, maybe use those teleporter shaders from h2ce? Those animated shield-like ones.

[Bodzilla]

needs more of this,
http://forums.cyberslam.com.au/uploads/av-622.gif

as animated scenery.
do it.

[Pooky]

Looks like shit, I wouldn't play this if you paid me to >:I






:haw:

[Evil_Monkey]

Looks amazing WOL, Hopefully it will look even better with correct textures on.

[Kornman00]

wheres mah HQ >:I

[Bad Waffle]

bitch, your HQ is the tall curvy building

(oops, none of the pics has it)

[StankBacon]

fucking awesome.

[Rentafence]

Wow You get shit done eh?

[Bad Waffle]

I really don't, im usually busy with stuff. Im doing this because i need to get back on schedule with it.

[jngrow]

Wait, there won't be a new texture for those buildings? It looks kinda weird at the moment IMO. Rest looks awesome.

[Rob Oplawar]

It looks like you've got some sort of semi-transparent collision geometry here or something-
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/750/1screenshot00dx1.jpg
whatever it is, my first reaction was that it was fog, and I liked it. If you were to add a bunch of wires and telephone poles and signs and other crap cluttering up the area directly above the roads and then gave it thick haze like that, well fuck I just realized it wouldn't look very much at all like NMC but it would still be fucking awesome.

[Bad Waffle]

Holy crap Rob, you just said something helpful! NICE.

Actually, that semi-transparent thing is supposed to be like a forcefield, so yea, you're pretty much right.

I think i'll do the wire thing to some extent--no telephone poles though.

[Zeph]

Wow You get shit done eh?

He gets a bunch done then sits around not doing anything for a few months.

[Snowy]

Needs some Anisotropic Filtering WoL :)

[Zeph]

Needs some Anisotropic Filtering Kornamn00 :)

ftfy

[supersniper]

This is looking good. Is sunny working with you guys? Because the lighting is a very dark setting, unless it's meant like that then just disregard my comment.

[Con]

ftfy
?
you can force AF on halo

[FRain]

:o


Do tell.

[Pooky]

?
you can force AF on halo

and get hilariously bad artifacts

[Lateksi]

?
you can force AF on halo

Someone please tell me if it's really possible. I just get a black screen.

[Pooky]

I don't know about you nvidia fags, but you can force anisotropy through the Catalyst drivers. When I tried it, I got massive artifacts everywhere, but I guess that could have been because I had a not too powerful radeon x1600 then :\

[jngrow]

You can force AF, not AA.

[Heathen]

Anistropic Filtering? I am stupid and I dont even know what that is but am I right? If so, what does it do? My 64 emulator has it.

[Evil_Monkey]

I would say it basically enhances the quality of textures over distance, also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anisotropic_filtering

[Zeph]

Anistropic Filtering? I am stupid and I dont even know what that is but am I right? If so, what does it do? My 64 emulator has it.

It works with textures so when they get far away they still look right.

[Pooky]

It works with textures so when they get far away they still look right.

And also more importantly when you view them from a low angle

[Heathen]

Ah. Ok. That makes sense.

[Lateksi]

Uhh yeah I knew that. My mistake. I read it "force AA" on >_>
If you use anisotropic filtering on a map like Bloodgulch, you will easily see the difference.

[Bad Waffle]

Modeled the legs just now.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7420/fun2ce9.jpg


http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5116/fun1qf2.jpg


http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7498/wirexq1.png

[Sel]

I didn't know you were making a mod for Audiosurf! http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/Emotes/applause.gif

Very nice stuff lag.

e: shit 200 posts too late for this post to make sense

[Inferno]

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5116/fun1qf2.jpg


:eek:

How are you so awesome?

[Malloy]

nice, doesnt seem 'that' high though

[Bad Waffle]

About 5-6 years of practice makes me awesome.


nice, doesnt seem 'that' high though

I plan to spend most of my detail on the upper half of the body--which is focused upon most. Why have really detailed feet when most of the time its not being viewed?

[Higuy]

I like it. :)

[Malloy]

yeh i stand corrected :P

good job, hope to see it pimped to buggery :thumbs up:

[Inferno]

About 5-6 years of practice makes me awesome.


Dang you must be older than I expected.

[Malloy]

no you're correct hes 7 years old.

he listened to Mozart in the womb.

[Inferno]

No, I thought he was like 17.

[Bad Waffle]

I am 17--turning 18 in november. I've been modelling since 2001, or 02. I forget.


I'm currently mulling over the idea of throwing on some knifes, ammopacks, etc onto the model as detail--i could make it a random permutation. But then again, i dont want more work with making LOD's.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7691/shot2yv8.png

Do the hands look familiar? ;)

I took a bit of chunks from the original model for the upperarm, and rehauled it. Still looks good.

[Heathen]

Balls. I see this coming out great.

[Rob Oplawar]

The first set of renders looked fugly to me, tbqh. The smoothing was all wrong. The legs look much better in this render (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7691/shot2yv8.png). I still don't understand the odd circle shapes on his thighs, though. Srsly, what's the deal with those? Also, MC still suffers from plastic diaper syndrome. I know it'd be really hard to stick to the original model while avoiding that issue, but I think you should see what you can do to reduce the appearance of a solid piece of plastic molded to his ass.

Also his hips are all wrong- the crotch especially. These are all problems the original H1 MC model had, which is sort of why I'm pointing them out- it would be kind of nice to have them fixed instead of leaving them in there.

But all that said, you are an excellent biped modeler. For all its shortcomings, that is a quite good biped. Please at least consider my crit instead of dismissing it out of hand like you always do.

[Bad Waffle]

Rob, the reason i set the smoothing like that in the first was because you do it like that when you set up a model for normal maps.

No, the hips are not all wrong. Yes, ill be fixing the crotch.

and i only dismiss whats obvious or wrong, noob ;)

[Inferno]

Looks good and wow i guessed your age. On a forum. That's pretty lucky.

Also, I think a combat knife (similar to the one in halo 3 on that permutation i forget the name of) would be kick ass.

[Malloy]

i've seen those hands before.... 5 fingers, shit they're my hands!.

where did you get the references for my hands!

-jokes aside

model looks great.

[Bastinka]

:words: knife on the armor..
CQB:
http://halowiki.net/images/e/ed/C.Q.B._Armor_Infobox.jpg

Good idea actually.

[jngrow]

CQB:
http://halowiki.net/images/e/ed/C.Q.B._Armor_Infobox.jpg

Good idea actually.

Cept make sure the blade is actually a blade, not a weird chunk of metal with a handle that comes in 20 assorted colors *cough nice one bungie cough*.

[Roostervier]

Cept make sure the blade is actually a blade, not a weird chunk of metal with a handle that comes in 20 assorted colors *cough nice one bungie cough*.
Um, that'd be the knife's sheath. I don't see what's wrong with it. :confused2:

[Bad Waffle]

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4691/updateer3.png

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4944/update2oy3.png

All thats left is the helmet, the codpiece/diaper looky thing, lower torso armor, and a few clamps to the torso pieces, and then i UV.

[MMFSdjw]

Wonderful. did you make the chest plate smaller?

[Bad Waffle]

Nope--its just that since its not as blocky, everything looks a lot more close fitting.

[Malloy]

lol why is he light weight in the pants department?

[Heathen]


(09:46:50 PM) Silent Wind: http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8382 (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8382&page=66)&page=66 (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8382&page=66)
(09:46:52 PM) Silent Wind: ORGASM
(09:46:54 PM) Silent Wind: SPLURGEGASM

Agreeing atm.

[Bastinka]

I splurged.

:) Thanks for that WoL.

[MMFSdjw]

meh, who needs pants anyway.

[DaneO'Roo]

Chest plate is way too small man. Other than that, this is epic.

But this really should have been done a long time ago :/

[Ki11a_FTW]

yeah i first i thought it was a women until i read the other posts

[Bastinka]

Atleast the nipples are covered, no purple-nurples for Master Chief today ;)

[Bad Waffle]

Chest plate is way too small man. Other than that, this is epic.

But this really should have been done a long time ago :/

You know, it does. I might as well make it bigger, it's easy to do thanks to how i modeled in half-elements.

[Heathen]

You thought it was a woman? You have some burly women where you live, eh?

[Rob Oplawar]

Look at his ass and tell me there's nothing wrong with his hips.
I think that is the gayest thing I've said in a while

[Heathen]

I was thinking the same, but once he makes the diaper, I will see if I think the same.

[jngrow]

He has no ass, but that's probably due to a need to compensate for diaper.

[Pooky]

The crotch makes him look like a Turian.

[Bad Waffle]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1362/mostrecentqj1.png
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/579/shotgunxv9.png
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8672/shotguncloseuppp1.png

Had some time this morning waiting for people to wake up, so i took roosters shotgun and hrh-ified it.

[Inferno]

:omfg:

Man i want this mod now lol.

[Roostervier]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1362/mostrecentqj1.png
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/579/shotgunxv9.png
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8672/shotguncloseuppp1.png

Had some time this morning waiting for people to wake up, so i took roosters shotgun and hrh-ified it.Lookin' good. ;)
e: This post sounds sorta gay...

:3

[Bad Waffle]

wanksta, im only going to add more and more.

[Hunter]

Biped looking amazing, apart from the groin armer seems a bit to... bulky or sticking out to much.. and the but armer seems weird..

And imo he would look better a tad taller.

The shotgun stock or whatever you call the thing at the back also looks weird, and not in the same style of the weapon. But other than that they both look awesome.

Edit:

Oh yeah, and the back of the bipeds head seems a bit to reviled. Maybe add some more armer?

[ExAm]

I'm not liking the shotgun, actually. I'm not a fan of the stock design, and the magazine bevels are totally out of place, not to mention you did the picatinny rails wrong. Here is an example of how to do them right.
http://www.ameetecarms.com/store/images/Slant%20Gas%20Block.JPG

[Inferno]

wanksta, im only going to add more and more.


I know. And I'm excited for this and its barely even started so i know this is going to be soooo epic.

[SnaFuBAR]

you did the picatinny rails wrong.
i don't know why you think a rail in 2552 has to be the exact same as a rail from 1913.

[Bad Waffle]

Biped looking amazing, apart from the groin armer seems a bit to... bulky or sticking out to much.. and the but armer seems weird..

And imo he would look better a tad taller.

The shotgun stock or whatever you call the thing at the back also looks weird, and not in the same style of the weapon. But other than that they both look awesome.

Edit:

Oh yeah, and the back of the bipeds head seems a bit to reviled. Maybe add some more armer?

Any suggestions on the stock, because if you ask me it matches. And uhh, thats the stock cyborg head ;)

No, not making him taller--would mess with the system. Making the chest piece bigger affected all of it, making him look thicker.



I'm not liking the shotgun, actually. I'm not a fan of the stock design, and the magazine bevels are totally out of place, not to mention you did the picatinny rails wrong. Here is an example of how to do them right.
http://www.ameetecarms.com/store/images/Slant%20Gas%20Block.JPG


i don't know why you think a rail in 2552 has to be the exact same as a rail from 1913.


does anybody have any ideas for the stock? And i dunno what you're talking about with the magazine bevels being totally out of place, they look fine.

[Hunter]

Could you add some armer to the back of the head? I am sure it would look better.. worth a try.

[teh lag]

Stock me no likey D:

I'd rather see it with the traditional design.

Also hunter, armor*

[Ki11a_FTW]

awesome biped :rolleyes:

[HDoan]

I want that bipeds babies...

[Needles]

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7426/shotguncloseuppp1rb9.png

I like the front of that. Maybe try to make the back more like the normal H1 shotgun while matching it with this?

[PopeAK49]

The front of the shotgun and stuff looks really nice, but the back looks really weird.

[Rob Oplawar]

Looks like MC gained some weight. Also, well, drat, now he has a realistic codpiece and it just looks... weird. Hm. For the most part it looks good, but it looks like it still needs some minor tweaks here and there.

[DaneO'Roo]

Ok, now UV map MC, make a hi res out of him using max and mudbox (max for armour, mudbox for organics) and make a sexy sexy sexy Mark V possible

[MMFSdjw]

Ok, now UV map MC, make a hi res out of him using max and mudbox (max for armour, mudbox for organics) and make a sexy sexy sexy Mark V possible

YES

[Bad Waffle]

Ok, now UV map MC, make a hi res out of him using max and mudbox (max for armour, mudbox for organics) and make a sexy sexy sexy Mark V possible


for the armor, i'll start it off by getting all the metal smoothed out and correctly formed, and then ill take the metal into mudbox and add badass scrapes and shit, and the people will rejoice

(plus it'll be good for my portfolio)

also, when i have time, ill redo the shottie stock more like the h1 stock. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, AND WOL HATH RESPONDETH..

[Enzo03]

Hmm, will this be featuring a custom rigging, perhaps also making it seem as if all the packs and stuff on his waist kind of... what word am I thinking off.... uhm...

Well, emulate the effect softbodies would allow...

[Bad Waffle]

Nope, i won't be making the packs wobble as he walks or anything. I have to keep the model to the original rig so i can re-use animations. Though, i DO plan on compiling some new death animation that would make use of some pre-rendered havoc collision.

[n00b1n8R]

Also hunter, armour*
ftfy :eng101:
I wish school didn't block pics. :(

[ExAm]

ftfy :eng101:
gtfo limey grammar nazi >:U

[n00b1n8R]

Who are you calling limey, yank. <:maddowns:>

Also, now that I can actually see the pictures: get rid of the boner on the chief pl0x

[ExAm]

Who are you calling limey, yank. <:maddowns:>

Also, now that I can actually see the pictures: get rid of the boner on the chief pl0x
Yankee is a term of endearment now :v:

[Malloy]

hmm is the stereo type of inbred a term on endearment now?

[Heathen]

In Louisiana it is :/

Also, I didn't think the weapons were going this far....I would love to see you reinvent the covie weapons. Expecially the needler....make it more ferocious looking.

[Bastinka]

Plasma doesn't seem that ferocious in any of the halo's... more like a cumshot.

[Pooky]

Needler doesn't shoot plasma :|

I agree about the Needler though, make it look badass and give it some awesome sounds so maybe people will pick it up once in a while :O

Also I know you said you didn't want to change gameplay... but for netcode's sake you might want to change the Needler so it's actually useful :\

[Hunter]

Nicer looking needles would be good, don't know how though... maybe hear it go into the flesh? Might make it more, scary. Lol.

Some pink smoke being emitted from the loaded needles might make it nicer.

[Bad Waffle]

Most of the covenant weapons are just perfect the way they are, namely the plasma pistol and rifle--ill update the shaders to match everything though. The needler though, i understand the conflict. Its pretty odd looking, ill sex it up later.

[Disaster]

I really think the plasma weapons need better sounds and also they need to be stronger.

[Bad Waffle]

not editing the gameplay, keeping the sounds. Well, maybe keeping the sounds. until i find a distinctly better yet similar sound.

[p0lar_bear]

pew pew

[Lateksi]

Yeah. Don't place original sound effect with a bad one just because it's custom.

[dg]

pew pew

.

[Pooky]

Most of the covenant weapons are just perfect the way they are, namely the plasma pistol and rifle--ill update the shaders to match everything though. The needler though, i understand the conflict. Its pretty odd looking, ill sex it up later.

I disagree about the Plasma Pistol... the lack of detail in the texture is going to make it feel kind of crappy next to a bunch of fuckawesome weapons :\

Question: Are you doing new weapon animations? Or is this going to have the same old stale Bungie animations we've been seeing for years?

[Bad Waffle]

more like PEW CHICKA PIGGITY PEWW

[Bad Waffle]

I disagree about the Plasma Pistol... the lack of detail in the texture is going to make it feel kind of crappy next to a bunch of fuckawesome weapons :\

Question: Are you doing new weapon animations? Or is this going to have the same old stale Bungie animations we've been seeing for years?

I'll look at the pp, i might be mistaken. And of course we're doing new animation. the guns would need it anyway.

[PenGuin1362]

Any suggestions on the stock, because if you ask me it matches.

Lovin the shottie except the stock it looks like a rather odd and impractical if I'm understanding the design correctly. If you wan suggestions looks at other retractable stock styles and play around with them a bit. The traditional M4 stock looks bad ass always. The crane stock is very sexy (See here for stock (http://us10.pixagogo.com/S5s5u8C5d5hAMrNuMfjsUEoBoH-PMTTgESPkPM4ENQgeJQdGcr%21O%21gjJHwEm7DC8JeSwEM1AJ JFwDoZGgV55Ybx1qmugRZHRj7QH96Z4EfM0TB-s3RIhnlvA__/kitty_cat_III_%281%29.JPG)). The paratrooper style folding stock doesn't really look good on a shotgun. But here are some images of the folding style stock if you want some other ideas

http://www.combatstocks.com/Shotgun_Stocks_Folding.cfm

The stock on the m14 EBR is also a nice place to get some interesting futuristic ideas (see here for m14 stock (http://www.pixagogo.com/5706244105))

Personally I just don't like what you got there. Rest of the gun is dead sexy, but you should add a bottom rail on the pump.

[Bad Waffle]

shit peng, you've been the most helpful with the stock design. Thanks.

[Heathen]

The needler though, i understand the conflict. Its pretty odd looking, ill sex it up later.
sweet mother of Wol...thank you!

[Rob Oplawar]

aw dammit, i was expecting an update.
there should be a rule against useless bumps.
owait--

[Gwunty]

sweet mother of Wol...thank you!
This is awesome, the needler hardly ever gets love.

[MMFSdjw]

I used to give the needler love but my doctor said I needed to stop or else it wouldn't heal.

[Bad Waffle]

badoom-pssshhh

ok i promise next time i post it'll be with new pictures

[Heathen]

Yummy. Also, I didnt see the date on my bump.

[Bad Waffle]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8880/mc4ob3.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7726/mc3ie2.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4461/mc2yv9.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/655/mc1jl9.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5558/mc5qm9.jpg

I know about the pouches

[Zeph]

Pouches....

[Bad Waffle]

fuck you

[Chainsy]

Fix the stock, instead of two bars, make it one that has the ability to slide in, sort of like an assault rifle stock.

[TeeKup]

Fix the stock, instead of two bars, make it one that has the ability to slide in, sort of like an assault rifle stock.

.....what.

[thehoodedsmack]

The chief is starting to look a little pudgy. Kinda like Mario. I agree that the shotgun end looks a little odd, but I guess we won't notice it much ingame. Do what you think is best.

[Heathen]

:D

[Bad Waffle]

did i mention i obviously havent fixed the stock yet?

i thought the pictures meant i hadnt, but i guess not.

[Pooky]

that looks like massive fail WoL

[Reaper Man]

Oh wow, awesome. Feet seem a bit wide though.

[Bad Waffle]

that looks like massive fail WoL

i is sawwy :smith:

[Bad Waffle]

Oh wow, awesome. Feet seem a bit wide though.

No, feet are matched up to the dimensions perfectly. You people said the chest was too tiny--i sized it up just ever so minutely, and now he looks fat. I'm not changing it this time :D

[Bad Waffle]

Yes i can triple post. Or can i?

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5659/shot3xu9.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7711/shot2uv1.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6489/shot1ey9.jpg

[ultama121]

Tripple post validated... with epicness! :aaaaa:

[supersniper]

I like it. Maybe keep the chief render unskinned... It would be different.

[itszutak]

pouches

[PopeAK49]

Yes i can triple post. Or can i?
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7711/shot2uv1.jpg


Friendly snow ball fight mb?

[Bad Waffle]

yes, but with guns.

[nick3d]

holy crap :O
thats going to be proper high res :O
the shotguns details, bloody hell, looks like a lot of tri's:O

[Inferno]

That spartan is made of win.

[DarkHalo003]

That spartan is made of win.
It would still look much better skinned. I really just see a modeled Spartan, nothing incredibly out of the ordinary with it, but it is a good model none-of-the-less.

[itszutak]

It would still look much better skinned. I really just see a modeled Spartan, nothing incredibly out of the ordinary with it, but it is a good model none-of-the-less.
I've noticed that in halo, skinning actually reduces detail, especially if it's overdone. I hope that whoever skins this does not overdo the detail on the skin.

[Bad Waffle]

itszutak, i would be hurting myself if i skinned it wrong. It'll look fine.

[Hunter]

Yes i can triple post. Or can i?

pics


:O

Also:
You doing anything with the plasma grenade? Make it look more interesting maybe?

[Heathen]

D: I hope my comp will play.

[supersniper]

Will the Plasma grenades look more like plasma or more cloud, dust-like explosions?

[DarkHalo003]

D: I hope my comp will play.
My computer sucks from what I hear, but it so far can run on with decals if I put it on 640x480. Not too bad, but it lags a bit when Norton and Apple want to be gay and spam it with pointless updates.

Would a good tester to see if our computers can run these maps be this one(?):
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3650

[InnerGoat]

Church is probably the hardest map to get good fps on, try that.

[supersniper]

Yes Church is one of the few that I don't get above 45 fps on...

[ExAm]

I get >60fps on all CE maps :awesome:

needs more stock pics plzkthx

[SuperSunny]

I'd have to agree on Church being the hardest map for FPS. I can load up Valkryie with a bunch of magic and it still runs faster than Church for me, because the entire map isn't based off Dynamic Lights (while Church is, which gives it such a kickass look).

[n00b1n8R]

TBH, I think Valkryie looks better than church. :|

[Heathen]

Oh ok, so is this gonna be harder than church or what?
Because I can run church without any slowdown.

[Zeph]

Oh ok, so is this gonna be harder than church or what?
Because I can run church without any slowdown.

We wont know until we get there. Honestly, if you have a 7800 or better, you'll probably be decent. 8800 and you're great. 6800 is about the generation I'm wondering about preformance. Even so, just lower the resolution and graphics and you'll be fine. It'll still look better than any other Halo map.

[Hunter]

Any renders of the weapons you have so far WoL? You get my AR textured for it yet? I really want to see it textured Lol.

[Scooby Doo]

ya, mowr rinderz rite nowz!!! please....

and how's the skinning going so far Wave? i guess u have ur work cut out for u with the bsp, biped, vehicles, and weapons, huh? good luck mate :)


~scoob

[Bad Waffle]

Ok guys, I've got a surprise cooking. This means that there wont be images etc for a while. Please be patient guys, it'll be worth it.