Delta Halo (Working title) SP Map

[Ki11a_FTW]

So here i have a video of some cool things i scripted into my map, heres the linky

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I had to lock fraps at 15 fps otherwise it refused to record.... ( i usually get around 95) so some sounds might sound inaccurate, and all the other stuff that happens when you get 15 fps. Trust me it will look a lot smoother in person. Especially the drop pods, in the vid they look like they just appear :fail:, when i fix this gay fraps issue ill be sure to show a more smoother version.

BUGS: Cruiser's sound needs to be louder
One crewman i forgot to script into an ai

First part of the video is a cruiser flying by dropping many droppods. (You have to get to that cruiser later in the level)
Second part is me meleeing a crewman, and watching everyone fight. (Echo 419 lands shortly after the video ends, sorry)
Any further updates will be posted here.

Credits are at the end of the video

EDIT: also bsp IS NOT final

[supersniper]

Will this come with the Delta Halo UI...[some random hurry up finish it hint]

Looks nice. Will it be based off the delta halo sp map in Halo 2??

[Ki11a_FTW]

Yep. The bsps are... 8 months old, so once all the scripting and gameplay is worked out, im going to go back into the max files, and work on the surrounding details. As you can see, many thing are way to boxy and plain atm :-/

[Sel]

Yeh as you said, the BSP isnt pretty :|

But I like how the covenent ship flew over, and I see potential here, I might donate some forerunner structures that might be useful, I just have to make them sometime after exam week.

Either way may not look sexed up yet, but either way It shows great potential and I hope you see it through to the end.

[Ki11a_FTW]

eh, i think ill make one more video to show, then no more vids for a while

[PenGuin1362]

aside from looking like crap, this has some potential. i like the cruiser flying over head. keep it up :)

[Ki11a_FTW]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7144/hogescortbz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^ hog escort ( follows a specific path, doesnt crash)

EDIT: i could really use help with the textures, some that make it really look delta haloish, right now it kind of ruins it

[supersniper]

Lol ask Arteen. I know he did textures in his Delta ruined map. Or you can ask Dano.

[ODX]

You going to use one of the many Halo 2 bipeds out there and maybe animate the SMG to be a little less jerky? Also, are you trying to make it more like Halo 2? Because those Battle Rifle animations are :\. But still, I agree it has potential, only because it has Halo 2 music :)
Edit: OH SNAP! That was you who had the successful ghost boarding! Will that be in this also?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I could rip you the h2 ones, or i could attempt at making a DH Forrruner skin, or you could change the gray forruner stuff to tan

[Ki11a_FTW]

The BR was from like July, so yeah, the anims are bad.
Im going to try to make it look as much as halo 2 as possible, if better.
Vehicle boarding will be included if i have enough tag space left over, in the current builds it is not included because im going for the main things right now that make a map play good.:)

And for those of you who havent seen my ghost boarding yet, here is a short preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nI8cWoVKyI

And if i do include it, the boarding animation will be improved and wraiths and banshees will be able to be boarded ( i already have a shit version of the banshee made)
(lol that bsp is actually the test map for this level)

EDIT: lone wolf that wont be needed. I like making the bsps custom.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Also Killa, by ripping i ment ripping the Halo 2 Delta Halo textures. Or i could try to create some myself, as i said

[Ki11a_FTW]

the only things i will have ripped in here is some vehicles\weapons\bipeds, which i am also thinking of replacing with custom content. And if i wanted to rip anything, i have all the halo 2 map files anyway.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Oh okay good luck with this project!

[nooBBooze]

we need moar decent sp maps.
keep up the good work :)

(dialogs seemed a bit out of place tbh)

[malolo420]

Ahh so thats the SP you were telling me about, nice covey cruiser and drop pods :D

Remind me to send you my h2 bipeds next time your online.

Edit: Awesome boarding too.

[hobojoe]

I love the boarding idea. pick up the speed and it will be awswome.

[MNC]

It's decent. I demand cutscenes!

[Co Redsonic]

Wow this looks really good, i like the boarding animation :D

[Abstract.Error]

Boarding animation made me laugh at how the MC moves so slowly. But it looks cool.

[Syuusuke]

Oh that video was from awhile back...I remember that.

[Con]

If you weren't looking up when the cruiser flew over, you'd probably miss it. Maybe make it fly parallel to you?

[Ki11a_FTW]

Yeah i made cortana say "Look!" Right before it comes, you could still miss it if you dont know where to look, id have to think of a way around that. I also need to keep it in that direction because you have to go to that cruiser in the 3rd bsp

[Con]

make it come when you're going up a ramp and you're looking upwards

[nooBBooze]

Or you could make it fly alot slower. that way it could even drop some tanks while its at it...

[FRain]

Or a scarab (no jk.)

Has lots of potential, looks like it plays great, but animations are blagh and the bsp and such is blagh.

wait fuck disregard that fucking parrot act nvm.

[Ki11a_FTW]

animations are hella old, from july

[SnaFuBAR]

your encounters need a LOT of work :/

[Co Redsonic]

Is this going to be in Campaigne or in Lan?

[Sel]

Is this going to be in Campaigne or in Lan?

Single player, I would hope.

[Co Redsonic]

Oh, thanks. Lets just wait and see what he says

[Ki11a_FTW]

your encounters need a LOT of work :/

actuallly the one you see in the video is the worst. Trust me the rest are not like that. I was messing with those encounters before that, i got to add brute cover and add more grunts and jackals. Marines do follow you throughout the map.

The elite droppod one is fine at the moment, though i am modeling some more structures for that area, so it wont be as open.

And snaff i modeled new cliffs, running lightmaps

This map is not lan, its single player

[SnaFuBAR]

so you've fixed the one from the first video where they all just appear out of nowhere after the fly-over, right?

[Ki11a_FTW]

Its not actually like that, fraps was lagging the game, and i had to lock it at 15 fps for it to actually record :mad:, without fraps i get from 150-250 fps usually around in there. If anyone knows another recording program i could show it better

[Bluefire]

maybe to make people notice/look at the Cruiser have it cast some kind of shadow ? (IDK anything about making maps so ..actually IDK what word I wanted to add here)

[Ki11a_FTW]

^ gonna try to do that, and also going to add markers to show the flames coming out of the back of it.

EDIT:looks like lightmaps are going to take all night, ive made some major changes since last pics, so ill try to get some new pics tomorrow.

[Ki11a_FTW]

So lightmaps finished...
small update
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7333/updategg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dont worry im working on those cliff shaders

and also modifyed my marines abit

EDIT: i decided to modify those cliffs a bit

also anyone have good cliff detail maps like the cliff detail on delta halo?

[nooBBooze]

im going to make you a crticicism sandwich:

+ random mp maps < Decent singleplayer levels
- ground textures look bleh. wtf is wrong with the hud
+ looks like its going to be fun to play

:)

[Ki11a_FTW]

the hud will be fixed later, im thinking of using polar bears hud and modifying it

Also phantom chaceing you on the gondola is scary :X

[Co Redsonic]

Ah, singleplayer, thanks.
Looking good so far. :D

[MNC]

Is that lake supposed to be that shallow, or am I mistaken by the perspective?

[Ki11a_FTW]

fixed that last night and added fog
Observe:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7255/haloce2008020120034321ci9.png (http://imageshack.us)

[adumass]

Its looking better, but you should make a new gondola current one has no cover.

[Ki11a_FTW]

oh yeah, forgot, credit goes to conscars for making a new cliff bitmap for the map

[MNC]

Much, much better. It's starting to shapen up.

[TeeKup]

I think the cruiser should be a little higher to be honest. I've never seen a capital ship fly at tree top level.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Tsavo highway :rolleyes:

[Botolf]

Map looks like it'll be a blast once it's done, lots of work to be done as the other members have pointed out, though.


Tsavo highway :rolleyes:
That sequence is sweet, I'm planning on doing something like it for my project as well. Hopefully before it becomes an altogether common thing :p

[TeeKup]

Tsavo highway :rolleyes:

Yeah that cruiser was alot higher than yours. :I

[Botolf]

Yeah that cruiser was alot higher than yours. :I
Well, to be fair, it looked like it was nearly grazing some cliffs when it first appears.

[Co Redsonic]

Well, to be fair, it looked like it was nearly grazing some cliffs when it first appears.

Yeah, I agree.

[Tweek]

&#236;'ve ignored this thread for a while, but in my opinion, you can't make a map with 200 polygons.

it's horrible.
bai.

[Ki11a_FTW]

:lol:

The bsp i am using now is from JULY so yeah it IS horrible right now, and i AM making new ones

[Roostervier]

Still, if they are so old and bad, why show them off to us? Why didn't you wait until you finished the newer ones so we wouldn't complain about the shitty old ones?

[Ki11a_FTW]

i wasnt really aiming to show off the bsp when i posted this, but the bsp is getting better, i work on it on and off.

[Co Redsonic]

Will Gauss hog be in it?

[Ki11a_FTW]

Gauss hog is on mb, theres a chaingun hog in the beggining, but you have a chance of getting pwned, so i might swap it to gauss, it might appear towards the end aswell

[supersniper]

I just want to see if the skull will be there...

[Ki11a_FTW]

:lol: actually there is a skull on the last sp map i released (madness p6) and it does something to when you get it

[Kornman00]

I like covie ship fly-by bit. Made me lul at the halo 1 engine :downs:

[Edward Elrich]

Agreed, really shows how different the engines are. I'm hoping the finished map will have more debris and stuff than that's showing right now.
BTW I thought it was a phantom that dropped the pods, not a cruiser.

[Co Redsonic]

I think its both...i think

[Ki11a_FTW]

im thinking of ways to make the cruiser more pretty looking when it flys by, already added the plasma coming out the back, now some more things im gonna do to it.

[Abstract.Error]

Add particles ( Bird feathers, that kind of stuff.) flying onto the side of the cruiser?

[adumass]

Add particles ( Bird feathers, that kind of stuff.) flying onto the side of the cruiser?
Some dust and camera shaking, maybe random objects getting blow away?(If its that close..)

[Apoc4lypse]

I think the cruiser should be a little higher to be honest. I've never seen a capital ship fly at tree top level.

not to mention never really seeing it ever do that...

I think it would be a much nicer sequence if instead of doing that you had a sequence similar to the e3 h2 video drop pods sequence occur.. The one where the drop pods fall down to earth would be nice looking.

Maybe if you insist on having a covie cruiser fly over, have that happen, but a lot higher up. Then have a few streaks through the sky or a bunch of em, indicating drop pods falling down, and then have some land near the chief.

Also, I'd make the whole thing fully cinematic, your in the hog driving then a script takes control of the players camera which shows the events unfold from better angles then what you would have from the turret.

[Ki11a_FTW]

that seems like a good idea

[Kornman00]

keep it up man, I have high hopes for you :)

[Ki11a_FTW]

self explanatory

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6011/epicuz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Still some bugs i have to tweak (bsp is getting redone)

I still have to make a flying animation for the drones, right now there flying around using the idle one

[PopeAK49]

well thats going to be a pain in the butt to fight the buggers.

[TeeKup]

Christ I hate Drones, they're like grunts, but actually deadly.

[Botolf]

Drones are awesome, they turn the standard ground combat on its head, and you have to adapt.

[FRain]

What the CHRIST is up with those origins? :gonk:

[Ki11a_FTW]

the br is oversized, the rest is fine

[Abstract.Error]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/Pingvinz/epiclol-1.jpg
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those smoothing errors?

[Ki11a_FTW]

you are correct

[n00b1n8R]

Cool concept, as many have said, it's graphically bad though :p

the only thing from the vidio I specifically disliked was the cruiser, it seemed to fly way to low (and a bit more of a delay from the cruiser flying over to the pods coming down would give you more time to realise what just happened and you might see the pods coming and have a moment get ready (even if only for a second..)).

[MNC]

I felt the Halo 2 drones were rushed. They'd have jumpy animation and strange AI.
(inb4ohwaitwholeh2isliekdat)

Hope you find a way to have decent drones, and it'll be awesome.

[Hotrod]

Well, this is going along nicely. You will be using Halo 2 Brutes, right? And a Halo 2 MC? And Marines/ODSTs? Well, I hope that this gets completed soon, because I'm really looking forwards to it.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Yep, h2 brutes (with a new set of animations by me) are almost done, drones need a few animation tweaks, ODSTS will be rigged with marine anims, there are no halo 1 bipeds in the map right now

[ODX]

Hmmmm, whose first person arms are those? Custom made?

[Ki11a_FTW]

there cmt's fp arms atm, masterz let me use them as a place holder for now, they wont be in any public betas(if i have any) or the final

[Hotrod]

there cmt's fp arms atm, masterz let me use them as a place holder for now, they wont be in any public betas(if i have any) or the final

A public beta (or a closed beta) would be a good idea so you could get some feedback on your work. Maybe it/they could be through invitations.

[Co Redsonic]

Is it possible to change weapons with your Marines? That'd be a great add to the map your making.

[Ki11a_FTW]

yep they have smgs, battle rifles, shot guns, and snipers

[Co Redsonic]

Wait, so you can switch your own weapon with one of the Marines? Nice...

[Sever]

You're doing it wrong.

He asked a question looking for an answer, not an unrelated tidbit. Co Redsonic was wondering if you would be able to preform the "Hold X to take allies' _____" action, not if they will hold a variety of weapons.

Unless of course, you did do it right, and thus need to type more clearly.

[Ki11a_FTW]

oh that, no but i think i know a way..

[n00b1n8R]

Do it tbh. :awesome:

[Ki11a_FTW]

i actually had something like it in my other older map that lets you do that, there was some errors though

[p0lar_bear]

I don't think that kind of thing is possible, or would even work right at all with CE's AI engine. In CE, AI works by having general action and reaction data defined in an actor tag, and weapon firing parameters defined in an actor variant. In Halo 2, the actr/actv tags don't exist anymore, and weapon firing params are defined elsewhere.

[n00b1n8R]

I don't think that kind of thing is possible, or would even work right at all with CE's AI engine. In CE, AI works by having general action and reaction data defined in an actor tag, and weapon firing parameters defined in an actor variant. In Halo 2, the actr/actv tags don't exist anymore, and weapon firing params are defined elsewhere.
gb2 sandbox <:mad:>

[MNC]

I always wondered if you could just let you gun fall down and the marine's gun fall down, with a bit of practice into his and your arms, and thus switch.

But I don't recall any scripts being able to do that.

[Ki11a_FTW]

ill mess with it a little later

[adumass]

I don't think that kind of thing is possible, or would even work right at all with CE's AI engine. In CE, AI works by having general action and reaction data defined in an actor tag, and weapon firing parameters defined in an actor variant. In Halo 2, the actr/actv tags don't exist anymore, and weapon firing params are defined elsewhere.

What if you set in the weapon tag which actor variant tag to use like how vehicle weapons are set. Then somehow change their weapon, maybe with bump possession. They would keep their original actor tag but the weapon's actor variant would change they way they fired, right?

[Co Redsonic]

maybe...

[Ki11a_FTW]

sorry there hasnt been much updates lately, but i decided to add more then one map to the story. heres a little pic of part of one of the intros.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/648/update2cy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i know i doesnt reveal anything, but there will hopfully be a larger update soon, sorry. And i am eventually gonna get a site up for the project, hosted by kororigaming.

[Co Redsonic]

What was the point of posting it then? Its just a Pelican in a cloudy day. -_-

[Ki11a_FTW]

wanted to post something, but didnt want to spoil some new things

[Co Redsonic]

Oh. you could have done a little bit more though...

[BobtheGreatII]

You better have done something amazing to that pelican in order to have a reason for not putting the rest in the picture... <:mad:>

[OmegaDragon]

Apparently there is a monkey working the camera because all I see is half a Pelican :|

[Kornman00]

Beggars can't be choosers -_-

[Con]

Kornman learned that last night, right baby?

[Kornman00]

o i c wat u di- O FUCK YOU K?!! <:mad:>

[Ki11a_FTW]

Apparently there is a monkey working the camera because all I see is half a Pelican :|

Actually the pelican swoops down and then flys over the the camera, tried to press it of how i wanted to show it, but pressed it to early

[n00b1n8R]

It's called faps fraps :eng101:

[Co Redsonic]

if it was an accident, then redo it. :/?

[Ki11a_FTW]

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8393/h3fencerj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8393/h3fencerj2.88c1dd689e.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=527&i=h3fencerj2.jpg)
started working on some halo 3 equiptment

[BobtheGreatII]

You really fail at taking pictures, just fyi...lol.

[Co Redsonic]

Equipment? Like? o_o

[KIWIDOGGIE]

I could rip you the h2 ones, or i could attempt at making a DH Forrruner skin, or you could change the gray forruner stuff to tan

Illegal much?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Except no one cares.

[ODX]

Nah, they do care, just not enough to do much about it. Dennis made some really long post about it, I only understood some of it. One part I remember was how really they don't care much because it's going into another Halo game.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Since when do you speak on behalf of them?

[Jay2645]

Since 12 year olds can't think.

[Ki11a_FTW]

ok ok enough, lets get back on topic. im going to begin remodeling delta halo, an re scripting it, because the way i have it set up now just plain old sucks. Updates tomorrow mb

[Ki11a_FTW]

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6394/whitemc0ojk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
wtf white mc 0_o easy error to fix :-P

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9869/cityupdateuh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
first level is getting some progress, gatta fix those damn windows though :-/

[Sel]

Looks good so far.

[BobtheGreatII]

I hate that Battle Rifle so much.

[Ki11a_FTW]

BTW those little squares out there are suppost to be lights, but i forgot to add the alpha channel to them, and the lightmap quality is low

[chicane]

the covenant ship flying overhead is amazing. I'm impressed. Also, brutes + buggers = orgasm. the only thing I don't like is the battle rifle. The one in the video's moving animation is quite over dramatic, and the one in the pictures has an ugly origin. However, You have my download sir.

[Ki11a_FTW]

yeah, getting a lot of complaints about the br, gonna fix it

[Sel]

The BR skin looks pretty low res.

Feel free to make things higher res, and more demmanding, most computers can take it now.

Just dont go overboard.

[Ki11a_FTW]

the normal res ripped from xbox is 256x256, this one is from halo 2 vista, and its 512 by 512

[Disaster]

Make the Battle Rifle have animations somewhat like the one in Halo 3. I love the way it looks and it would be the first Battle Rifle to have that particular animation.

[chicane]

Well thats not true at all. I've seen lots of mods ATTEMPT good halo 3 animations.

[Ki11a_FTW]

i kinda like halo 2 origins more for some reason, but ill think about it

[Co Redsonic]

Yay. Now more info on the equipment.

[Ki11a_FTW]

also yay another bsp ingame , doesn't reveal a lot but here is some pics

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2844/cityupuj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1741/drinkplocsir6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Co Redsonic]

Ok...o_0. Cool I guess

[Ki11a_FTW]

oh and just so you dont get thrown off its inside a building in the city

[Ki11a_FTW]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7654/armoryhz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
a little armory im workin on

[Sel]

Make a part where youre actually defending for a while.

The campaign lacked that :\

The only part was in the level halo, and that really wasnt much fun for defending :\

Make a part where you actually have to have a large firefight with a bunch of marines backing you, and a bunch of covenant trying to rape you.

[Co Redsonic]

^^ I agree with Selentic, make it epic

[Ki11a_FTW]

im ganna take a little vote here before i get to far into making the level, crows nest theme or poa theme?

[Sever]

Neither. Be original, and give it a purpose before you start to model the gameplay layout, while still letting the theme affect the player's experience.

[Ki11a_FTW]

the layout i have right now could be easily switched to a different style and still look good, and i know i want it to look either crownestish, or poaish but haveing some problems deciding

[Sever]

In my opinion, you're doing it wrong, then. The level will have no reason for its layout. There will be no purpose for each area, thus making a convoluted and senseless linear path. My most worthwhile suggestion would be to look at Minerva: Metastasis (http://www.moddb.com/mods/5803/minerva) (a mod for Half Life 2: Episode 1. The architectural layout makes immense sense in its context, while also creating some of the best combat spaces I have ever experienced.

[Ki11a_FTW]

alright, more updates a little later

EDIT: ok nevermind definetly NOT crows nest, it looks just wrong. ill leave it at its original design

[MNC]

PoA Theme, I never like the music on crow's nest.

EDIT: You meant visual theme. Ok.

[Co Redsonic]

Wait, there is an armory in Delta Halo?

[Heathen]

I dont believe there is....and if it is its not like that...thats too much of an earth theme...

[Co Redsonic]

EP_Killa, theres no armory in Delta Halo, explain plz. D:

[adumass]

It doesn't immediately start out on delta halo.

[Ki11a_FTW]

EP_Killa, theres no armory in Delta Halo, explain plz. D:

Theres 3 levels, level 1 is the cityish one, i may have to split it up into 2 different maps because its gonna be pretty big, then you have delta halo, then you have another level which you will not know about till later

[Co Redsonic]

Oh, now I see. Thanks.

[nooBBooze]

its the covie ship rite? :)

[Heathen]

ah, I understand.

[Co Redsonic]

So its 3 maps then?

[Ki11a_FTW]

yes

[Co Redsonic]

So when you release it, will all 3 maps be in one folder, or they will be separate?

[Ki11a_FTW]

there will be a total of 5 maps one is intro, the next 3 are the playable levels, then the last is the ending

[Co Redsonic]

Oh, so 2 maps are cut-scenes or something?

[Ki11a_FTW]

yes

[Co Redsonic]

I hope the finished map file sizes aren't over 60 MBs..

[MNC]

You betcha the campaign maps themselves are going to be big, easily around 80mb. CE has to store all sounds and bitmaps in the map instead of a seperate bitmaps.map and sounds.map

[Ki11a_FTW]

yeah there already over 100 mb each

[Co Redsonic]

Damn...:(

[Ki11a_FTW]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5qNA9XTeEPU

sorry for the lack of updates, i animated some more weapons and modifyed some models, the ar moel is not final and the bsp is just a test map

[chicane]

Hurray more animations for me to critique!
Assault rifle: I really like the origin, though I think the model probably would have looked better unmodified. The melee animation looks cool, but it doesn't really look like its hitting anything, just sort of raising the weapon. The reload looks very bad. It shows that the right hand's fingers are not well wrapped around the gun. Also, the movements are jerky and unrealistic. The gun doesn't move properly when the clip is removed or inserted, and the left hand looks messy when its pushing the bolt. What I did like was the grenade throw, that looked good and it has always been one of my personal weakpoints. I wish I had gotten a good look at the ready anim but it wasn't really visible. The firing animation looked good, but it looks like you still don't constrain very well. The left hand seems to stray from the gun a bit. I might be wrong about that though.

Brute shot: The ready animation looked cool and accurate to halo 3, but the origin in its self looked clippy (the thumb). The melee looked pretty lame. There was a serious lack of implied force, just like the assault rifle. The fire looked good, I have no complaints on that, but the reload was very unappealing. There was far to much visible arm, and the left hand twisted in ways that it shouldn't have. Also, the fingers quite clearly clipped while putting the grenades in. The grenade throw and the equipment deploy both looked good to me though.

[Ki11a_FTW]

just noticed that the hand wrapped around on the ar werent on right D:, in max, and when hes pushing back the ophandle, then fingures are not messed up :-/, as for the bruteshot, ill make the melee a bit faster

[Sel]

I really like that modified model :D

And animations are good too :3

[SnaFuBAR]

recoil on the ar is GROSS. redo it.

[chicane]

recoil on the ar is GROSS. redo it.

Agreed.



just noticed that the hand wrapped around on the ar werent on right D:, in max, and when hes pushing back the ophandle, then fingures are not messed up :-/, as for the bruteshot, ill make the melee a bit faster

Disagreed. If they're in a position that isn't natural, they're messed up. As for the bruteshot, speeding it up wont fix it. You need to make it more obvious that he is hitting with the blade.

[Ki11a_FTW]

the fingures are NOT messed up, they go a little fast, but if you watch it slowly theres nothing abnormal about them, how is making your fingures straight abnormal? and i wasnt just ganna fast forward the bruteshot, gonna make it come out more and more faster.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3105/scene1lz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
anything abnormal there, hes pushing back the op handle with his thumb

[CtrlAltDestroy]

You have a bad thumb rig.

[Ki11a_FTW]

yeah some others all a little messed to, will take a look soon

[Shad0w]

Nice looking forward to it ;)

[teh lag]

the fingures are NOT messed up, they go a little fast, but if you watch it slowly theres nothing abnormal about them, how is making your fingures straight abnormal? and i wasnt just ganna fast forward the bruteshot, gonna make it come out more and more faster.

anything abnormal there, hes pushing back the op handle with his thumb

Irrelivant if it's "normal" from another perspective; what matters it it looks good where you see it ingame. And as of now, it doesn't look that good. The movements are fairly jerks and unrefined throughout the anims, fingers especially. They could all use some work.

[Ki11a_FTW]

so i found i still had a build of deltahalo on my comp so i though ah, why not one last pic before the whole thing gets redone, so here you go

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7105/lastupdateze1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the tags arent up to date like some of the past updates because the build was compiled right before the first level got textured and in sapien, so dont expect updates on this map for a while

edit: i know about that cliff in the corner

[LlamaMaster]

Needs less box! :gonk:

[Ki11a_FTW]

its actualy just that side, but yeah, the mesh is from july, and i was no where as good as modeling as i am now :-/. i hate the bsp right now i cannot stand it. imo the play just seems wrong, and the layout is boring :fail:

[BobtheGreatII]

imo the play just seems wrong, and the layout is boring :fail:
Then fix it <:mad:>

[SnaFuBAR]

going to do the temple area?

[Ki11a_FTW]

something like it, yeah

[Ki11a_FTW]

update

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3252/deltaupdatefs8.png (http://imageshack.us)

started fixing up some of the weapons (new animations, shaders, etc)
also i rigged and partly animated a new link biped which has absolutely nothing to do with this wip..

EDIT: forgot i didnt show you guys the hud yet, custom halo 3 hud by me, as you can see the ammo counter and radar isnt finished yet, except the assault rifle ammo hud is finished. im still debating on weather halo 2 or 3, the halo 3 one has some alpha problems , as you can see, but thats an easy fix

[chicane]

BR origin looks horrible. the hand is going through the gun... I suggest using a larger model. Also, the bolt is a dradle. The jew in me is tempted to spin it and sing.

Anyone else notice that link's got a little captain in him?
http://www.paravia.com/DonMaitz/Version3/Artwork/Pirates/CaptainMorgan/images/CaptainMorgan2.jpg

[Ki11a_FTW]

when i put the br ingame it was like, super small so i scaled it up to like that, its much bigger in max because i fucked something up with the scaling..
anyway ill screw with it more

[supersniper]

Link looks good.

[Co Redsonic]

Yeah, Link does look good, well done.

[thehoodedsmack]

Looks like it's just a rip from SSBM.

[Co Redsonic]

Actually yeah. Didn't notice

[jngrow]

Looks nothing like the SSBM model. But he didn't say he modeled it, he said animated and rigged.
^
nvm :/

[Ki11a_FTW]

oh yeah, i did not model it, its from ssb melee, sorry about that

[Co Redsonic]

shoulda made from Brawl :/

[Ki11a_FTW]

well im getting a wii this sunday, ill look into finding an emu when i get it

Oh and im working on new smg anims, and some other things right now, so excpect an update this afternoon.

[Ki11a_FTW]

As promised

the origin on the smg needs to be moved up a bit, but yeah heres the pic

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7416/eliteshadestu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
In the pic
new elite shaders
new smg animations

[Hotrod]

This is looking great, keep up the good work! How far into completion would you say you are? I just can't wait to play this!

[Ki11a_FTW]

id say im around... 20% done , theres still a lot to do

[chicane]

Smg origin looks like its aiming to the left. The thumb looks messed up too. Why don't you just use halo 1 hands instead of those? They don't look very well rigged.

[Ki11a_FTW]

if you look closly its the right hands thumb over the trigger, not the left

[chicane]

Oh I see it now, it blends in because of the textures.

[Co Redsonic]

lawl, i dont like how he holds it tho...

[chicane]

Me either. One problem I have that you don't would be putting the gun to close to the screen. Thats what always gets me (@ killa)

[Ki11a_FTW]

im working on the smg origins, and i pretty much perfected the br origins, except for the hand goes through the gun a little stiff :-/

[Phopojijo]

Very very late to mention this -- but the placeholder brute in the video (post #1) -- was that mine? o.o

Sweet.

[Co Redsonic]

yes, very late. -_-

[Ki11a_FTW]

its cmt brutes

[Co Redsonic]

how'd u get a hold of them

[LlamaMaster]

how'd u get a hold of them
He's part of CMT.

[Hotrod]

Didn't they release their old Brute tags to the public? Seeing as they weren't using them anymore.

[Co Redsonic]

They did? Look for link or something

[Ki11a_FTW]

He's part of CMT.


thank you, though i barely have time to help them


Didn't they release their old Brute tags to the public? Seeing as they weren't using them anymore.

They were suppost to go to public ages ago, but they never got to it,and they are still being used in the betas i am receiving from masterz, the new ones are close to being ingame though

[Sel]

how'd u get a hold of them

Hes in CMT last I looked :o

[Co Redsonic]

Yes I can see that now. Your sig is also very funny BTW, Selentic xD

[Phopojijo]

its cmt brutesOf which I made the first one... I was asking which one was it -- mine (#1, too low poly, baked armour but detachable helmet) or TehLag's (#2, detachable armour)

I thought Dano released the CMT biped a LONG time ago...

He made some changes since -- but this is the latest version I have...

http://www.chimpire.com/Brute.rar

It's just the model -- the tags and shit is all Masters. It's also in Maya format. If there really is a request for an unrigged Brute biped... then I could convert it to OBJ and/or FBX (or whatever format provided... you know... it's possible without me buying anything extra).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/new_brute_skin_02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/new_brute_skin_01.jpg

Had some issues with black seems in Mental Ray due to Anisotropic filtering... still not sure what caused it.

I'm also not sure if this includes the transparency channel for the beard. I think so but I can't test it. Got a major presentation Wednesday.

[Heathen]

never liked those brutes....look like shrek in armor...

[Hotrod]

never liked those brutes....look like shrek in armor...

Agreed, I never thought that they looked like Brutes, more like a completely different kind of alien, especially with those toes, and fingers, and head, and etc...

[Heathen]

I twas a good go though....just not brutey enough...

[Sub-Zero]

the brute looks halo 1 decent in a way. Even though it has no hair

[Co Redsonic]

eh...kinda...

[Phopojijo]

the brute looks halo 1 decent in a way. Even though it has no hairIt actually had a beard which you could barely see around the helmet (or directly if you shot the helmet off the head).

As for more hair -- that could have came with extra plane extrusions.

[Sub-Zero]

lol ya it does look like a santa beard on the sides. wouldn't the extra plane extrusions cause alittle frame lag.

[Phopojijo]

lol ya it does look like a santa beard on the sides. wouldn't the extra plane extrusions cause alittle frame lag.While it's true that adding any detail what-so-ever would increase the computation time... if you think about the whole beard being ~12-16 triangles... even if you spend a whole 100 triangles on the biped in hair... you might then lose a single frame per second... assuming you have multiple brutes on screen.

I think you can stand the drop from 56FPS to 55FPS... worst case scenario.

[Sub-Zero]

Really? well i dont know alot about characters that much.

[Phopojijo]

Really? well i dont know alot about characters that much.Characters are just another animated object.

They really only take up extra performance because of all the vertex animation, skeleton animation, AI, etc. that is required. Still, 100 triangles would barely be noticeable unless you have like -- 5-10 onscreen.

Depending on the engine of course...

[p0lar_bear]

Don't forget LODs. You can drop the beard on lower LOD models to increase performance.

[Phopojijo]

Don't forget LODs. You can drop the beard on lower LOD models to increase performance.Yea that'd defeat the purpose of worst-case scenario though.

[Heathen]

the brute looks halo 1 decent in a way. Even though it has no hair

kinda....if your monitors off...the only way that would have been "good enough" is if players weren't supposed to LOOK at the character...

[MNC]

kinda....if your monitors off...the only way that would have been "good enough" is if players weren't supposed to LOOK at the character...
Why Mr. Heathen, are you implying the Brute looks total rubbish?

[_TheArbiter_]

those brutes look kinda....skinny

[Heathen]

not total rubbish....like I said (I think I said) There a good first go....but they aren't close to what you would want as a permanent placement....

[Ki11a_FTW]

slightly larger update here, i spent all day animating and tagging the energy sword, i still need to add lens flares to the blade and brighten the sword itself, and in the pic the sparks didnt get captured right,so dont complain about that atm, i went a little overboard with them, gonna tone them down. Also as you can see i have tombstone in the backround, that will be released with the campaign , also new sexy sky :-3( the hud reticle and the rest of the hud is not final, and fp rig still needs some tweaking, but i never got to it yet. I also fixed the smg origins, and made new BR anims ,origins and shaders that took me around 2 days and it is lookin pretty darn close to halo 2. anyway, instead of babbling on what i have accomplished (a ton you havent seen) heres a pic

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8471/swordupdateva0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

the map has a fully syncing and functioning gravity lift script, that doesnt lag or use damage effects.
oh almost forgot, the sword works really close to halo 2, it has 2 different primary fireing animations. And if you look by the chiefs left hand, you can see the sword floating like halo2, and it still looks fine in 3p when the player is holding it, so yay. Lunging has been removed for now, until i can think out a better way to make it work

also, help here, does anyone know how to get a illumination map into a shader transparent chicago? i tried adding it through a shader model but it didnt show up ingame, so help that works will be +rep

[FRain]

just noticed that the hand wrapped around on the ar werent on right D:, in max, and when hes pushing back the ophandle, then fingures are not messed up :-/, as for the bruteshot, ill make the melee a bit faster

If you're using that downloadabe rig from jahrain, get rid of it, ASAP.

The thumbs and fingers weren't rigged correctly, so if you animate with H1 or different the thumbs and fingers look shitty.

I think I've got a good rig laying around, but I can't get to my comp so I can't help you.

[p0lar_bear]

Or you could simply rip the fp.gbxmodel rigged with bones using bluestreak's model importer. :v

[Ki11a_FTW]

im not using jahrains rig, its my own from h2, and the ar has been canceled for now


If you're using that downloadabe rig from jahrain, get rid of it, ASAP.


and im the one who told you to get rid of it when you were on h3t, so why would i use it :haw:

[Heathen]

Looks good....but imo I think if the sword cant lunge it might as well be dropped....but with all the work put into it I guess you wouldn't think of dropping it.

[Ki11a_FTW]

i have the lunging animation in my animation tag, its unused atm, i will put it in if i figure out a less online laggy way of lunging

[ICEE]

Rather than lunge, cant you just increase the melee's range?

[Heathen]

but then that would just look lame...

[Hawkeye]

Have you got any video updates ? 0_o

[Corndogman]

Bump from the Grave.

[Hawkeye]

and will there be odsts in the map?

[SnaFuBAR]

moron.

[Hawkeye]

moron. Who me?

[Con]

Play nice.

[SnaFuBAR]

who do you think i was talking to? look at the date of the post before yours, then think really hard.

E: seriously you should've pm'd instead of bumping a dead topic. if he had video updates i think they'd be here. it was a stupid question.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Oh this is still alive, i just haven't been posting updates :-P

ah, heres one just for the hell of it

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7903/picture3mp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

update is directed at the odst. So yes there will be odsts.

Next update will most likely be a sp video. And trust me, you will see major improvements (Also, no containment 4 u)

[Hawkeye]

Thanks for the update. Will the odsts have a better ai than the average marine?

[Ki11a_FTW]

Well they are stronger and have more health, i also have created animations so that they can melee other enemies.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Please use proper normal maps rather than those terrible ch2r heightmaps.

[Pooky]

Well they are stronger and have more health, i also have created animations so that they can melee other enemies.

You could also try increasing their accuracy and response time... since they're supposed to be better than regular Marines.

[Hawkeye]

does the second part look like delta halo now?

[Hotrod]

I forgot about this, somehow, though I'm still as excited for it now as I was back when updates where regular enough. So, if I understood correctly, the ODSTs will be able to melee enemy Covenant? If so, that would be a first for allies in Halo SP.

[Ki11a_FTW]

@ Pooky, even the normal marines have a better firing rate and accuracy, but the odst is even better.

@hotrod, yes

[Heathen]

:gonk:

No offense, but why does the ODST look.....fuzzy?

[Ki11a_FTW]

probably because i took the picture at a bad resolution, then stretched it out

[Inferno]

Whats this campaign all about. Is it a continuation of the madness series?

[Ki11a_FTW]

madness is over, i was remaking it a while back, but i decided to let it go. Deltahalo is a whole new story