Knowledge is Free.

[Huero]

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[legionaire45]

Check my sig for lulz.

Also this war is already old news.

[thehoodedsmack]

Anonymous is such a bull-crap group.

[Huero]

But they're totally right. And I don't care if the war is old, I'm sure many people don't know about it and it's interesting. Plus I haven't seen a topic on it, so...

[thehoodedsmack]

All that this has reminded me of is what a bunch of dickheads the anonymous members are.

[Huero]

How? Scientology is a dangerous cult and they're just trying to stop it.

[thehoodedsmack]

If scientology was legitimately dangerous, it would be targeted by people more influencial than a bunch of freakin' hackers. From what I've seen and heard, scientology is just a harmless little fairy-tale that people turn into a religion. I'm sure that Christianity and Judaism, Islam, the works, all got the same rap when they were first formed. Anonymous in general pisses me off, simply because they do little, if not no, good for anything.

[teh lag]

In all honesty I don't see what they can do besides be a thorn in Scientology's side. Religions and organizations don't fall too easily. Unless they can get something really, really big, they're dicks without balls. I'd be all for seeing Scientology come down, but I just don't see it happening from these guys.

[Stormwing]

In this instance their primary objective seems to be just bringing Scientology's crimes to light. Course they'd like to go all the way, but I think they'd know how much help they need to get. However, I've seen people who pretty much just blew the cult off change after hearing about this "war" and almost want to actively do something about it.

It'll be sorta interesting seeing how this all unfolds, at least.


And I'm pretty sure Anonymous is anything but a hacker group.

[Emmzee]

Scientology is a joke. Anonymous is a joke.

Discuss.

[Teroh]

Scientology is a joke. Anonymous is a joke.

Discuss.
Your mom's a joke.

Discuss.

[Emmzee]

Your mom's a joke.

Discuss.
You never put out.

Discuss.

On topic:

In this instance their primary objective seems to be just bringing Scientology's crimes to light.
Everyone already knows what Scientology did wrongly. Nobody cares. It's by nutjobs, for nutjobs. If something bad happened to some involved in the Church of Scientology, they deserved it.

[ExAm]

If scientology was legitimately dangerous, it would be targeted by people more influencial than a bunch of freakin' hackers. From what I've seen and heard, scientology is just a harmless little fairy-tale that people turn into a religion. I'm sure that Christianity and Judaism, Islam, the works, all got the same rap when they were first formed. Anonymous in general pisses me off, simply because they do little, if not no, good for anything.
Then you haven't seen this:

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[Emmzee]

Cults kill their members all the time.

Old news.

[Longshot]

Anonymous is such a bull-crap group.
Sssh, they'll hear you.

I doubt it will happen, but I seriously hope Anon takes down Scientology for good, they make me sick.

[Aerowyn]

OH LAWD. I've been following the scientology/anonymous stuff since it's inception.

[dg]

Scientology is a fucking joke. Anything to hinder them is great news to me.

[Bodzilla]

I'm having some sweird un explainable issues with You tube atm.
The vid plays for 3 seconds then Freeze's, then plays for 3 seconds, then Freeze's ect ect.
and i'm not getting any sound.
(cheers for any help if you know how to fix it.)

Could someone just explain whats going on with Scientology at the moment, and why Anonymous have spurred an attack against them?

[nooBBooze]

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:-3

[Bodzilla]

Is Tom cruise retarded?

wtf was that shit.

[Limited]

I'm sorry, but wtf exactly is Scientology? I've never really understand exactly what it is.

[ExAm]

I'm sorry, but wtf exactly is Scientology? I've never really understand exactly what it is.Google and Wikipedia are your best friends. :eng101:

[Bodzilla]

a cult based around an evil space monster that fucked up some peoples souls and what not.
based of a science fiction book.

From there it kinda went
Cult --> extortion --> Religion (tax evasion) --> extortion --> Extremists.

hence why so many members make Massive donations of hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years there in it. and why the "church" (:lmao:) Makes such masse's of wealth that they can recruit a seriously badass Legal team that Stomps into the ground any bad mouthing or "telling it like it is" comments about the church.

[nooBBooze]

Read for lulz (info is legit)
copypasted from
www.skeptictank.org
Scientology's Core Beliefs

Now for all you Scientologists planning on moving up the Bridge, I just want to give you a heads-up on what to expect. And, for the few people who ever consider getting into Scientology, I want to give you a brief view of their cosmology.
This story is the core belief in the religion known as Scientology. If the people Scientology tries to recruit knew about this story, I don't think they would ever get involved. This story is told to Scientologists when they reach a higher leveI. If the people in Scientology at the lower levels knew about this story, I don't think they would would stay on the Scientology hamster wheel. It is a road to total something, but not freedom.
75 million years ago, there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu who was in charge of 76 planets in our part of the galaxy, including our own planet Earth, whose name at that time was Teegeeack.
All of the planets Xenu controlled were over-populated by, on average, 178 billion people. Social problems dictated that Xenu rid his sector of the galaxy of this overpopulation problem, so he developed a plan.
Xenu sent out Tax Audit demands to all these billions of people. As each one entered the audit centers for the income tax inspections, the people were seized, held down and injected with a mixture of alcohol and glycol, and frozen. Then, all 1.4 trillion of these frozen people were put into spaceships that looked exactly like DC8 airplanes, except that the spaceships had rocket engines instead of propellers.
Xenu's entire fleet of DC8-like spaceships then flew to planet Earth, where the frozen people were dumped in and around volcanoes in the Canary Islands and the Hawaiian Islands. When Xenu's Air Force had finished dumping the bodies into the volcanoes, hydrogen bombs were dropped into the volcanoes and the frozen space aliens were destroyed.
However, Xenu's plan involved setting up electronic traps in Teegeack's atmosphere which were designed to trap the souls or spirits of the dead space aliens. When the 1.4 trillion spirits were being blown around on the nuclear winds, the electronic traps worked like a charm and captured all the souls in the electronic, sticky fly-paper like traps.
The spirits of the aliens were then taken to huge multi-plex cinemas that Xenu had previously instructed his forces to build on Teegeack. In these movie theatres the spirits had to spend many days watching special 3D movies, the purpose of which was twofold: 1) to implant into these spirits a false reality, i.e. the reality that WOGS know on Earth today; and, 2) to control these spirits for all eternity so that they could never cause trouble for Xenu in this sector of the Galaxy. During these films, many false pictures were implanted into these spirits, which resulted in the spirits believing in all the things that control mankind on Earth today, including religion. The concept of religion, including God, Christ, Mohammed, Moses etc., were all an implanted false reality that to this very minute is used to control WOGS on earth.
When the films ended and the souls left the cinema, they started to stick together in clusters of a few thousand and remained that way until mankind began to inhabit the earth. Today on earth all the spirits of these aliens have attached themselves to our bodies and are the root cause of the false reality that all but Scientology's OT 8's on earth experience. It is the job of all Scientologists to remove this false reality from the world by auditing each and every space alien spirit and human on earth to CLEAR not only this planet but the universe. For those who oppose Scientology and stand in their way like the LMT and all Scientology critics, Scientology promises to do away with them "quitely and without sorrow".
I have calculated that on average, each person on planet earth has 2,314 of these Body Thetans (BT's for short), Hubbard's term for the alien spirits, causing you and all mankind to be constrained by Xenu's false reality. The average cost for Scientology to OT 8 is a mere USD 360,000, meaning that each BT only costs USD 155.57 to clear. Now that is a bargain if there ever was one.
Hubbard never said the overall cost to the planet would be cheap, but let's examine it. The planetary cost equation is as follows: 1.4 trillion spirits times USD 155.57 equals a mere USD 2,104,550,960,000. Just think about it -- USD 2.2 quadrillion -- shit, that's enough to keep Rear Admiral Miscavige and Marty in casino chips for a long time.
As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers of the Marcab Confederation finally discovered how evil he was and overthrew him. He is now locked away in a mountain on one of the planets and kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery. Several of Xenu's relatives can often be found on ARS.
In fact I know people who have sat in a room at the Sancastle building in Clearwater, Florida for 5-7 hours per day, holding two asparagus cans together, attached to a lie detector, talking all day to these dead space aliens. And guess what? You'll never ever finish talking to dead space aliens until you leave Scientology.
I am repeating this story to you as a warning. If you become involved with Scientology then I want you to do so with your eyes open and fully aware of the sort of material it contains.



Bob Minton

[Jay2645]

Wow...

And here I thought that MORMONISM was crazy...

[Limited]

Google and Wikipedia are your best friends. :eng101:I really wanted a one sentence sum up.

Isnt it to do with religion, they believe that the world was made by god. Or is it the other side where they believe theres a scientific reason for how the world was made.

[FlyingStone]

I really wanted a one sentence sum up.

Isnt it to do with religion, they believe that the world was made by god. Or is it the other side where they believe theres a scientific reason for how the world was made.

One sentence would be something along the lines of... Its pathetic.

But the all great way to sum it up would be threw this :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-126281853779690652

Watch it. It is the only way to really sum it all up.

-F.S

[Emmzee]

1 sentence, eh?

Scientology is a bogus religion founded by a science fiction writer that scams its followers out of massive amounts of money and time.

[Tweek]

ive got plans.

i'm not revealing what, because it's not legal :awesome:

[Limited]

Fucking hell, that American "Tommy" was an arrogant prick. He never let our BBC dude give his stance on the situation. This "Scientology" bs is weird. Its on the same level as those nutjobs in the westboro baptist church.

I hope they start to freak out about these anonymous videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrkchXCzY70

[Jay2645]

2 bits of info in this report (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-threat31jan31,1,6115546.story?ctrack=1&cset=true):
1. Someone played a practical joke on Scientology (And it worked!).
2. Apparently, Anonymous has already made the first strike, as near the end, it mentions that Scientology's site was hacked. No mention of Anonymous, but THEY are notorious for hacking.
I don't care which side wins the Scientology war, really. It's just fun to watch.
Also,

Fucking hell, that American "Tommy" was an arrogant prick. He never let our BBC dude give his stance on the situation. This "Scientology" bs is weird. Its on the same level as those nutjobs in the westboro baptist church.

I hope they start to freak out about these anonymous videos.

YrkchXCzY70
Fixed.

[Emmzee]

All Anonymous is ever going to do to Scientology is hack and vandalize their website.

Not going to make much of a difference.

[nooBBooze]

appearantly some anonymous-guys are calling 911 to denounce random scientology leaders of possession of kiddieporn.

[OmegaDragon]

Rofl.

Also, Google "Dangerous Cult" and see what they have done.

[ImSpartacus]

a cult based around an evil space monster that fucked up some peoples souls and what not.
based of a science fiction book.

From there it kinda went
Cult --> extortion --> Religion (tax evasion) --> extortion --> Extremists.

hence why so many members make Massive donations of hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years there in it. and why the "church" (:lmao:) Makes such masses of wealth that they can recruit a seriously badass Legal team that Stomps into the ground any bad mouthing or "telling it like it is" comments about the church.

I don't see much of a difference between Scientology's cult-like activities and the popular religions of the world (especially christianity).

Churches take 'donations' from people. They also preach godly, outlandish things of equal idiocy of Scientology's preachings.

To any outsider, most religions of the world look like cults (and they basically are). They difference is that these religions have mass adoption so they are by definition 'normal'.

I'm not saying scientology is good or bad, but I've seen extremeists from just about every major religion. There's also pacifists from each religion. I think it comes down to individual personality more than anything.

I'm sure there are Scientologists that don't mean anyone harm. But I don't doubt that there are just as many that do mean harm.

As for anon, I don't know. They seem to just want to have fun more than anything else. Although I think that not having one central 'home base' will help not give any target for Scientology's legal team.

I'm curious to see what comes of this, i hope anon doesn't turn into a hippie group that is reduced to pitiful small scale protesting for a hopeless cause.

I'm rootin for the lulz.

[Sel]

I found the real Tom cruise video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tySJTPJJc1Y

[Limited]

:O Any one where bout the protests? Anons wore the Guy Fawkes masks from V for vendetta :D classic...

Lots of people when to the one in London apparently.

[nooBBooze]

the author of the ringworld dunno his name right now, once said that the majority is always sane. sure, scientology might be a pyramid schmeme based on a mediocre science fiction book (+author) that not only consist of a random hotchpotch of popular and historic philosophic concepts but , summarized, its also obvious and barely disduised bullcrap. (dc-like ufos? aliens that have been dropped in volcanoes and killed by hydrogen bombs and their souls agglomerating in human bodies after they have been indoctrinated illusions like religion and the like?) seriously, i think the story of the alleged dude, son of a much mightier dude in the sky who also happens to vote republican seems much more plausible to me there. but thats not the point.
even the koran and the bible can be thaugt the "wrong" way.
i think brining down scientology or at least the attempt to do so can be a first step to dismantling fanatic and possibly subversive and conspirative cults (i would also say that term applies to poltiically active christian/muslim organisations and entities).

on the other hand, anon conists of a bunch of idealistic (dont get me wrong, idealism is great but its bound to be crushed by reality eventually:() /b/tards and scientology seems to have found an effective way of exploiting idiots, the most energyefficient and renewable ressource of our times. and since the entire world is now under the banner of capitalism, thats a good thing.

EDIT: id say there is a major difference between churches and scientology. while the first ones are mereley loosely organized, scientology is more like a multinational corporation. like mcdonalds. but without a redemption drive through.

also, appreciating ur sigs omegadragon :)

[Limited]

I kinda agree with noob in his first paragraph. The majority of people are sane, usually correct. Religion however, can mess (well not mess, but change) even the smartest, knowledgeable people, its just SO strong, faith can draw in any one, even the most level headed people, when religion is involved will do crazy things for religion. I'm surprised and upset the actor from my name is earl (earl) is a Scientology, he has definitely gone down in my books.

Thats why I hate this Scientology stuff, the fact they claim it a church, I feel sorry for USA, having actually given them the status, we banned it in UK.

[nooBBooze]

having said that i think that scientology is more like a well organized private corporation specialized in "faith" rather than a church, id say that the nature of their organisation triggers major and systematic specialization in certain sectors such as what i would call "brainwashing" and mind-gangrape (=superlative of mindfuck) while constantly draining the financial ressources of their followers.
mb the scary thing about them is that it really may be a religion that has been massively improved (almost maximum success rate at converting new members, average drop out rate close to zero [it seems]).

mb its really the coldblooded efficency (you just cant deny that their efficient) thats scary about scientology and not their bullcrap work of fiction they base their faith on. but after all, if our traditional churches had the means or the will to organize in a privatized firm, they would really have similar agendas as they would surely develop similar strategies to efficiently exploit the human psychology.

but thats just my 2 cents.

[Bodzilla]

I'm sorry guys, but a church that has Contracts on there members, is no church at all.

Scientology can get fucked.

[Botolf]

Germany has the right idea about Scientology.

[Sel]

:O Any one where bout the protests? Anons wore the Guy Fawkes masks from V for vendetta :D classic...

Lots of people when to the one in London apparently.

On the news yesterday.

Here in ontario, think it was Ottawa.

Some guy walked in dressed up as that rickroll guy, with the mask, clothes and the music, he pulled the dance from the song and rickrolled the church. It was SO lol

[OmegaDragon]

London Coverage (http://deathboy.livejournal.com/1082404.html)
Dallas report (http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa080210_mo_protestors.acfdde3f.html)
Australia report (http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/anonymous-confronts-church-scientology)
Toronto report (http://torontoist.com/2008/02/scientology_pro.php)


I was surprised that I saw the mention of Anon's actions in FL in our local newspaper.

[teh lag]

In general the Feb. 10th protests should be noted to have been huge sucesses.

http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewforum.php?f=13 for info on what happened at them.

Also, there's another set of protests coming on March 15.

[LlamaMaster]

Thats....amazing. I'm stunned that they could actually get so many people involved. Also, I LOLed freaking hard at that first link Omega. xD

[Con]

kEUldKrviIM

lol

[Limited]

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OHpjcZNM8_k

:D Haha

[Emmzee]

They Rick Rolled Scientology.

Fun times.

[LlamaMaster]

I wish I was there, I live about 25 minutes from the Austin Scientology Church. :(

[Bodzilla]

I am supremely proud of these guys.

Fucking stick it to the man.
Good job anon.