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Syuusuke
February 3rd, 2008, 10:09 PM
So one day I wanted to delete a bunch of files on my Documents folder using Shift+delete. The added shift key would "permanently" delete the file without moving them to the recycle bin, I'm just too lazy to go to Recycle Bin or Disk Cleanup to clear the Recycle Bin and remove them.

So, I [thought] I clicked on some one file, and pressed shift delete, I saw the usual window that pops up when deleting files, but I noticed it said something about 954mb, I was like "WHOA:eek: WTF, CANCEL DAMMIT, CANCEL!!" It did, it spared half the files that didn't fall victims to the dreaded Perma-delete buttons.

Now, is there an actual program that can somehow recover these, I mean I've heard of "undelete" programs that can recover files that have been deleted from the Recycle Bin, well my situation is similar. Since there are so many of these so called Undelete softwares, I don't which one actually works and is legit... So help me out? I deleted the MOST important files from my computer :fail:

Thanks in advance.

Also, I am willing to pay for software, what the hey, these things don't really come for free, but if there is a free software, that's awesome!

For the tl;dr:
-I accidentally deleted major files and they're not in the recycle bin because I used shift-delete which resulted in being gone. Just like if you deleted the file if it was in the recycle bin.

-Need a program that undeletes, willing to hand over moolah for such program.

-Gracias.

4RT1LL3RY
February 3rd, 2008, 10:53 PM
First off, have you tried doing a system restore?

System restore returning the system index to its old state. As long as a file wasn't "securely deleted".

ExAm
February 4th, 2008, 01:58 AM
If you've been moving stuff around, or have restarted since then, then there's not much hope. You might be able to recover some stuff with this, though:

http://rapidshare.com/files/89020328/restore.zip.html

If you've done anything like what I said above, the files may either be gone, corrupted, or their filenames may have been mixed up.

beele
February 4th, 2008, 03:35 AM
Tuneup utilities has such a feature. (there's a 30 day free trial if I'm right)

CrAsHOvErRide
February 4th, 2008, 06:04 AM
If you have turned off System Restore like me...which you actually should...then they are almost unrecoverable.

StankBacon
February 4th, 2008, 11:53 AM
If you have turned off System Restore like me...which you actually should...then they are almost unrecoverable.

thats a big negative.

i was able to recover some pretty old files with this one program (forgot the name) after restarts and other shit....

all that matters is the data doesn't get overwritten.

adumass
February 4th, 2008, 12:24 PM
I used this program once and recovered some files, its free. http://www.aumha.org/a/recover.php

Phopojijo
February 4th, 2008, 01:04 PM
thats a big negative.

i was able to recover some pretty old files with this one program (forgot the name) after restarts and other shit....

all that matters is the data doesn't get overwritten.
Not true... sort-of.

Using statistical analysis of harddrives you can recover data (not always fully -- but partially) up to about 8 or so overwrites. (Hence all the file-shreaders "8-way random write" options... it's to throw off the statistical analysis programs)

That being said -- since I assume you don't work for the FBI or similar government agency... 1-2 overwrites may still net partial recoveries. To be safe though -- limit harddrive access until you find the program to do it.

Here's one here I found on Google -- http://ntfsundelete.com/ -- it appears to only rebuild NTFS tables... and not actually do a bit-by-bit statistical analysis of the sectors. So if you do too much writing on that one harddrive -- it doesn't appear to be able to undelete it.

Some programs do.

Syuusuke
February 6th, 2008, 05:36 PM
I'm an idiot

I made a 600 mb wav File in the folder I stupidly deleted, so now everything but ONE song is gone.

Phopojijo
February 6th, 2008, 08:17 PM
I'm an idiot

I made a 600 mb wav File in the folder I stupidly deleted, so now everything but ONE song is gone.Not necessarily.

There are programs to undelete, as I said, multiply-overwritten data sectors (up to about 8 overwrites). They're usually either really expensive, government class, or both. (They look at statistics to guess the most likely value, 0 or 1, that it should be) SpinRite does this -- but for a different type of data recovery I believe... not just unerases.

Just don't touch your computer and see if you have any friends who do freelance tech support for the DND or military. Usually they're allowed to play with the software for personal use -- and a lot of them are heavy smokers. Just a tip :) Carton of Cigs = Cheap computer repairs.

Limited
February 10th, 2008, 05:04 PM
I had a really good program that was good for recovered deleted files, but I cant think of the name sorry. There are some good ones out there, the one phopo suggested sounds good.

Just for some general info:
Files are nearly always never actually deleted from your windows system, even when you remove them from your recycle bin, they are still on your hard drive. You need to overwrite the files numerous times to actually fully delete them, just like phopo said, alot of permanent deleting file software has to overwrite the files a to of times to actually fully get rid of them. This is why you can usually recover your files.

Syuusuke
February 10th, 2008, 06:25 PM
$89.00 eh.

kenney001
February 11th, 2008, 06:04 PM
how the hell can something that has its bits all jacked from being overwritten be recovered? I thought th 1's and 0's were either one or the other, and when you everwrite them, they change.

just a personal question for intrest...

Phopojijo
February 11th, 2008, 06:28 PM
how the hell can something that has its bits all jacked from being overwritten be recovered? I thought th 1's and 0's were either one or the other, and when you everwrite them, they change.

just a personal question for intrest...If data's been overwritten -- there's still little bits that remain. What specifically -- not sure... I'm not a harddrive expert. But yea -- you can run statistical analysis on the signal and guess what the old data should be. You probably won't get all the data off perfectly -- but for law enforcement/military purposes -- getting little bits of data is still evidence enough.

That's why all these shredder programs have "8-way random writes" -- they're designed explicitly to screw with the statistical analysis of the drives. Simply zeroing all data once will still allow enough data to at least partially recover lost bits. You basically need to completely randomize the entire contents of the drive multiple (8 is considered safe) times.

It's always easier -- by far -- to recover data that's not been overwritten of course... simply deleting a file tosses out it's index in the file system. Scan the "free space" for not-empty sectors and relink them.

If it's overwritten -- it's not just a matter of finding the data -- it's also a matter of reassembling what fragments are at least partially legible...

CN3089
February 11th, 2008, 09:33 PM
Tuneup utilities has such a feature. (there's a 30 day free trial if I'm right)

TuneUp Undelete (http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/).




e: Also, this is why using Shift+Delete is horrible and you should never ever do it.

Emmzee
February 11th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Listen closely, because this fix is complicated. Note that it will only work in XP.

Turn your computer off and wait exactly 29 seconds. No more, no less. Turn it on. When you see the Windows icon and the loading bar underneath it, wait until the loading bar has gone across the screen exactly two times. Press ctrl-shit-f5. Hold it for exactly 2 seconds, then release and hit caps lock three times in the space of one second. When that is done, wait for the login screen. While at the login screen, click your username (will only work if you have a password) and hold down f1, f2, f3, and f4 for exactly 5 seconds. Let go of the keys in this order: f3, f2, f4, f1. Then, log in as normal. Before the taskbar loads, press ctrl-alt-shift-tab-space-f11-delete in that order, holding down each button once presses. Hold these down until you get a BSOD. Then, without turning off your computer, open up the case and scoop exactly one tablespoon of chocolate ice cream into the motherboard. Chocolate, NOT vanilla with chocolate syrup, etc. Then, close your case and wait for the ice cream to melt.

Then, go to the store and buy a new computer, because you just fucked it up.

Phopojijo
February 11th, 2008, 11:08 PM
^ Odd -- I was expecting you'd move in with your uncle in Bel-Air.