water problems

[cheezdue]

Ive been trying to put the water in my map for quite some time, but for some reason, it looks very ugly. I followed the water tutorial from halomaps but that didnt help out. Any help guys?





p.s. were can i upload photos to show how my water looks like?

[Vicky]

If you look at the properties of the pics of others you see where they posted them.

[Hunter]

Photobucket.
Imageshack.

Just google for a free image host.

I use Photobucket (http://www.photobucket.com)

[cheezdue]

ok this how my water looks like in sapien

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/cheezdue/H2Sapien2008-03-2114-44-59-67.jpg


this is the shader for it

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/cheezdue/Capture.jpg

and this is how i have in the structure bsp file

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/cheezdue/Capture2.jpg

so does anybody know what im doing wrong?

[xBigDaddyx117]

lucky for you I have made a tutorial WAY better than code brains, just give me a min to upload it.

Edit: Ok here it is, I have uploaded it to www.halomaps.org (http://www.halomaps.org) although I dont think it is up yet.

[cheezdue]

Thanks dude! +rep!

[Warningshot3]

wow that is sexy water +rep for you xBigDaddyx117.

@ cheezdue. also make sure the water plane and its UVW is the same ratio, ill just post a pic. note click on the pic to get full zoom.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8443/watersomethingokwhateveby6.jpg

[cheezdue]

hey theres a problem, there are no shaders:eek:!!!!!!!!

[Warningshot3]

no shaders in the tutorial? that sucks.


anyway from what i learned you dont need to add the water shader to water definitions in the bsp. that shader slot is used for ocean water and to make the ocean water animate you use the ocean templates, just take vindication_water shader and change the template. to set the height of the ocean water you change the number under the water area in the bsp and the ocean water doesnt need any geometry to be made in 3ds max.

shader looks like this.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8068/oceanwaterrw9.jpg
use ocean_static_opaque_blend for non see through ocean water.

[xBigDaddyx117]

crap, let me fix it, i think i put the bitmaps in twice.

yeah i never got the tut tested, well i guess i just did, lol im uploading the correct version now

Edit: Ok here is the FIXED version, tell me if there is something else to be added b4 i reupload it to halomaps please thx.

[cheezdue]

Hm i think thats all....

[xBigDaddyx117]

wow. Idk what my deal is, but my last reply i forgot to paste the link to the new version, sorry.
Water Tutorial - FIXED (http://files.filefront.com/water+tutorial+fixedrar/;9864499;/fileinfo.html)

Do all you think My tutorials are good? My next totorial will be on how to make a custom ground.

As I said in the tutorial. I would like to thank johnnyblaz20 for giveing me the shader in the tutorial.

If you like My tut, +rep. :)

Thanks.

[Warningshot3]

so cheezdue is your water ok now?

[cheezdue]

Yeah it worked. It showed up nice and looked real, but it didnt animate. >_<

[johnnyblaz20]

To me the the water_pool templates are the easiest to set up and looks the best "in my opinion". I'd change your template. Oh the ocean template in my opinion looks too blocky but the cool thing is you can adjust it's height in the structure_bsp, but who needs that? I pick quality. With the water pool template you do not need to set as much in the structure_bsp, also make sure if you do use a water_pool template DO NOT even touch the FOV or sapien will crash. <--as i remember. I also would not set the reflection and refraction bump scale in your structure_bsp above 2 or 3 to start. and you don't really need to mess with anything below that in the bsp with a pool_template shader. Just make sure to set your colors and apply your shader in the structure_bsp.

If your water does not animate it is 1 of 4 things.

#1 your bump_map_index is incorrect.

#2 your water bump bitmap is the wrong one

#3 Double click on all your bitmaps in the shader and scroll down and make sure the "UNUSED" box is unchecked. That will make the bitmap invalid.

#4 Did you apply your shader to your map's structure_bsp???

Hope that helps.

[xBigDaddyx117]

Yeah its your shader, i changed it a little and i did say thank to you in the tut.

[Vicky]

Posting it was never approved by johnny, rep-----

[xBigDaddyx117]

I have made my own shader and replaced it in the tutorial just to put a stop to some of this bs that has been going around. The new link to the changed tutorial. When i started I wished people would have helped me so now Im helping people learn what I have learned along the way though asking people. and if you dont like this then get the shader off halomaps, i don't care. I was just trying to help.


Download Link (http://files.filefront.com/water+tutorial+fixed+2rar/;9878065;/fileinfo.html) - Get it while it's here.

[p0lar_bear]

Here we go again with drama that started back in CE...

He doesn't have to remove the links, and I'm not removing them either. The original author has no say over who can do what with game assets once s/he gives them out, be it a tag, or a whole map. If someone decides to leak something, then that just sucks, oh well.

BigDaddy, if you did indeed get these shaders from someone else, then I urge you to cite your sources. While what I said above stands, it's kinda wrong to claim that you're solely responsible for something when it's a modification of something existing, and the community in general looks down on that.

[CodeBrain]

So, this is what I get for helping a community?

Some asshole who thinks that my tutorials suck?

Listen buddy, those tutorials were made in the BEGINNING of Halo 2 Vista Modding, WAY before your time. So cut the shit, stop dissing over my tutorials that were older than you.

If you want to diss, do it somewhere else, because that I "believe" is against the rules, under "Flame-Baiting"

Seriously. This is what I fucking get...Unbelievable.

Even before you came, people mocked the fact that my tutorials suck.

Im sick and tired of this.

Sorry for the e-drama, but I just....tired of this bullshit.

[Idjiki]

Honestly, I've looked at both tuts and I could tell that CodeBrain's was older. Its always easy to look at something already done and do a better job.. so I was happy that BigDaddy took the time to make a new one.. not sayin anything bad about CodeBrain's... props for being the first by alot.

[armoman92]

^ true

[xBigDaddyx117]

So, this is what I get for helping a community?

Some asshole who thinks that my tutorials suck?

I never said your tutorials sucked in the tutorial, I just said I made a better one.


Listen buddy, those tutorials were made in the BEGINNING of Halo 2 Vista Modding, WAY before your time.

I have been mapping since the beginning of halo CE.



So cut the shit, stop dissing over my tutorials that were older than you.
Atleast I dont live with my mom still, You don't know me.



If you want to diss, do it somewhere else, because that I "believe" is against the rules, under "Flame-Baiting"

Seriously. This is what I fucking get...Unbelievable.

Even before you came, people mocked the fact that my tutorials suck.

So what are you getting on my case for, you are acting like I rewened your rep.

PM Sent To Me:


:/

At least I tried making a tutorial for people to follow. Have YOU done anything at the BEGINNING of Halo 2 Vista modding? No? Thought so.
Nope, I was still helping people in CE
and dont get mad if i can come in later that you with less experience and still make better things.


Yes, I know that my tutorials sucked, the fact was through that it was in the beginning stages, and not where it is today. So yes, it has been outdated. Still, there is no reason to fucking diss my tutorial. Just keep your stupid rude comments to yourself.

If you cant handle that, then you shouldnt even be here.


Why do you get mad if someone says your tutorial sucks, if you say it sucked your self?


Vickys signature: I laughed so hard when i saw this shit.

Think twice b4 handing out any shaders, maps or whatever to xBigDaddyx117..
:XD:
lol, dude. JohnnyBlaz20 gave me permisson to use his shader, I just forgot to say it was his shader, I did say his name in the video though, he said it was cool though.
why would someone that didnt have nothing to do with anything try to make a bigger deal out of it than the actual person that made the shader.


Once again I didnt say your tutorial sucked in mine, I did have permission to use the tutorial and you need to learn how to listen and read.

I will continue unfased ;)


Someone just lock this way off topic shit.

[Idjiki]

too bad the tut doesn't have splash-able water... that would make my day!

splish splash
splish
splash

[CodeBrain]

To BigDaddy

Woops, my bad, I was just mad....sorry to dump it all on you.

I would complain saying that I had a bad day, but Im not like that.

Sorry Bigdaddy.

Apologys?

:D

[xBigDaddyx117]

Its cool.