[Map] Révolte (Uprising multiplayer)

[GAIGHER]

wé tinkiet j'ai bien régler les distanse dafichage
le Portal é nikel ossi
Haaaa je Bande télman sé bon ^^

tu peu demander a Z si il veul bien me plaser les tag
je choisiré quel tag je veu
et je leur diré ou les plaser

ouf tu é revenu je men soté plu moi ^^

[Masterz1337]

Crates will havem to be vehicles, and scripted into the MP map. I can give him the CMT crates if he has aim or MSN messenger. Also, can he remove the CMT from the actual map name, since it has no CMT mod?

Thanks for whoever will translate this.

[beele]

Crates will have to be vehicles, and scripted into the MP map. I can give him the CMT crates if he has aim or MSN messenger. Also, can he remove the CMT from the actual map name, since it has no CMT mod?

Thanks for whoever will translate this.

Les caisses devront être des véhicules, et préétablires dans la carte de MP. Je peux lui donner les caisses de CMT s'il a le messager de MSN ou AIM. En outre, peut-il enlever le CMT du nom de carte, puisqu'il n'a aucun mod de CMT ??

[GAIGHER]

ha ok My msn gaigher@hotmail.fr
I renames CMT_Révolte > Z_Révolte ?
Z'team Are OK ?

[Hunter]

I have got some crate tags which I made a while back. It is basically a vehicle which you can get into, so you can hide in side.

But the crate needs better physics. You can use them if you want to.



J'ai obtenu quelques étiquettes de caisse que j'ai faite un pendant que de retour. C'est fondamentalement un véhicule que vous pouvez obtenir dans, donc vous pouvez cacher dans le côté.

Mais les besoins de caisse mieux physique. Vous pouvez les utiliser si vous voulez Ã*.


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/The.png
Old picture from years ago Lol.

[Choking Victim]

Hunter, your crate doesn't match the map style AT ALL.

[paladin]

It looks like a crate from Counter Strike 1.6...

[Hunter]

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Sorry.

I could make you a crate, but I can't make it into a vehicle because my tags are fucked. And i can't be bothered to re download the hek. Lol.

[GAIGHER]

waaa WMHunterTLS It is beautiful
Sorry, but I already have the c_storage
Thanks Masterz1337


News Img
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5850/zrvoltqi7.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3296/zrvolt3ja0.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5818/zrvolt4ym4.jpg

[SgtBotley]

sweet ass population man, GJ

you got a vision.

[Masterz1337]

That looks real awsome.

[Sel]

Go classic, vehicles and weapons.

All your other maps have ridiculous combinations that are downright retarded.

Otherwise Id guess its okay, theres something I find distasteful about the cliff texture, so if you could replace it with something prettier thatd be grand.

[GAIGHER]

I can touch the 3D !
3D finich
Population finich
Gayme type finich
...

MAP FINICH !!!!!!!!

And You !
My msn gaigher@hotmail.fr

Z'team Are OK ?

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

<3

[Sel]

I can touch the 3D !
3D finich
Population finich
Gayme type finich
...

MAP FINICH !!!!!!!!

And You !
My msn gaigher@hotmail.fr

Z'team Are OK ?


You can do what I just told you in sapien and guerilla.

And it would take all of 10 minutes.

[GAIGHER]

tu a déja fabriquer une map toi ?
j'ai l'inpertion que tu me demande de corijer des bug de 3D et de UVWmap avec sapien et guerilla
fo arété de fumer mon povre

[Roostervier]

Holy shit, that's awesome work man! Great job.

[Sel]

tu a déja fabriquer une map toi ?
j'ai l'inpertion que tu me demande de corijer des bug de 3D et de UVWmap avec sapien et guerilla
fo arété de fumer mon povre

Uhh translate please?

The cliff texture does not require re UVW mapping, unless its some really odd texture. You should just be able to swap the bitmap in the shader.

As for replacing all the stuff with classic, that simply requires you to change the item collections, and vehicles.

Should take all of 10 minutes.

[paladin]

Very good Bungle man.

[Heathen]

lookin good :D

[MMFSdjw]

looks great but you should add some mist/water spray at the bottom of those waterfalls.

[jngrow]

Reminds me of one of the later Halo 2 SP levels. Damn, this level would be majestic on a newer engine.

[Heathen]

Reminds me of one of the later Halo 2 SP levels. Damn, this level would be majestic on a newer engine.
agreed

[PenGuin1362]

Indeed.

Looks great, keep it going :)

[Disaster]

It looks pretty good.

[ultama121]

Nice, eye liek teh goud loks.

[Lightning]

Looks great!

The only gripe I have is the radiosity doesn't look as good as it could. Try messing with your light shaders some more, and darkening the ambient lighting indoors/place light strips to accent the interiors.

Also, less neon-blue water fog is a must.

[Nimverus]

Excellent Environment :awesome: Best work in ages and I like the idea of the wave texture with the water its groovy ;)

[GAIGHER]

looks great but you should add some mist/water spray at the bottom of those waterfalls.

Sapien screenshot
sapien.exe not valide waterfalls effet

[Masterz1337]

He says sapien doesn't display particle effects.

[GAIGHER]

yés "sapien doesn't display particle effects"


The weapon that I want

The Pistol z_sanctuary
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9643/pistolnr7.jpg


The Conv Carabine z_sanctuary
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2122/convrn5.jpg


The Energy sword z_sanctuary
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1615/enid6.jpg


The Needler z_sanctuary
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2799/nellderxd1.jpg


The Sentinel Weap http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6842
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/10-13-07/sbeam_fire.jpg


The Brute shot http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6842 (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6842)
http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/09-24-07/bshot_fire.jpg



The Sniper z_sanctuary
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1224/snipernb8.jpg


The Beam rifle http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6842
ViZbCKyGla8


The HUD http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6842 (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6842)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/282/hudbg7.jpg




The Frag grenade z_sanctuary
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1744/fraggrenadexg3.jpg


The Plasma grenade z_sanctuary
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3204/plasamgrenadax0.jpg


The Cyborg+FP z_sanctuary
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/905/bipdfq4.jpg




how place

replace "c gun turret" to "c gun turret z_sanctuary"
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4931/copiedezrvolt3wf4.jpg



http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3944/39894367pj1.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1050/94001863yo9.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8698/62106436hv3.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6209/95654150ra1.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9472/29324048tu7.jpg


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7248/35968938ha1.jpg


http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4963/53116154ig4.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3600/80826471ev5.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7040/98323371vm3.jpg

[paladin]

You continue to amaze me. WHY COULDNT YOU HAVE COME ALONG 2 YEARS AGO!!!??!?!

You sir, win.

[Heathen]

Great Placement ideas :D

[Sel]

I still stand with using classic weapons.

If you mix and match, they tend to be ridiculous, and some of the ones youve suggested there are really quite imbalanced.

Youre proposing mixing in, lasers which do not work in CE at all.

With a ton of other stuff.

If youre going to use a weapons set, use a complete one that is known to work well for gameplay, dont just take part of Z teams stuff, and mix it with other stuff. Chances are they wont mix very nicely at all.

I still stand with classics over anything else, but dont mess up this map with a weapons set that will overall work out badly.

[Heathen]

I still stand with using classic weapons.

If you mix and match, they tend to be ridiculous, and some of the ones youve suggested there are really quite imbalanced.

Youre proposing mixing in lasers, which do not work in CE at all.

With a ton of other stuff.

If youre going to use a weapons set, use a complete one that is known to work well for gameplay, dont just take part of Z teams stuff, and mix it with other stuff. Chances are they wont mix very nicely at all.

I still stand with classics over anything else, but dont mess up this map with a weapons set that will overall work out badly.


2 things...one, that comma was bugging me.

and two, I agree that classic is the way to go.

[Sel]

Whats wrong with the comma?

[Pooky]

Where did he ask for a laser anywhere... and don't tell me you call the sentinel beam a laser or I'm going to slap you

[ultama121]

You seem to have the map all laid out. This is going to turn out great.

[Sel]

Where did he ask for a laser anywhere... and don't tell me you call the sentinel beam a laser or I'm going to slap you

The sentinel beam is a laser. >:/

[Pooky]

The sentinel beam is a laser. >:/

*SLAP*

No it's not it's a beam.

[Masterz1337]

You'r a fucking moron if you think CE is about classic weapons. You must have the same idealogy as MGS when they made their mandates for H2v.

[Sel]

*SLAP*

No it's not it's a beam.

A Laser Beam *SLAP*


You'r a fucking moron if you think CE is about classic weapons. You must have the same idealogy as MGS when they made their mandates for H2v.

I never said it was about classic weapons, but theyve been tried and have shown to work very well, and theyre far better to use, than mixing and matching a bunch of random weapons together that could or could not even work in CEs engine.

[paladin]

I thought the whole idea behind Halo Custom Edition was to have creative, non-classic content.

[Heathen]

I thought the whole idea behind Halo Custom Edition was to have creative, non-classic content.
Well, technically they didn't originally intend for people to make custom weapons...

Masterz:
And as far as it being ALL about classic weapons, I don't think so. I just don't think that EVERY map should have custom weapons. But I forgot that this was a Halo 2 themed map so I withdraw my previous statement...better?

and Selentic:
The comma was in the wrong place. Since I read things out loud in my mind, it threw me off. No ill will meant by it. I'm no grammar Nazi.

[paladin]

Well, technically they didn't originally intend for people to make custom weapons...


Are you sure... or are you just basing that off of H2V.

[Heathen]

No, I'm almost certain that the tools weren't originally created for all this (interesting) custom content.

[Pooky]

He's not mixing and matching random weapons... he's asking for the z team tagset and a very specific set of weapons to match his map layout :\

[GAIGHER]

there will be only 1 single map
NO version !
NO classique !

if not his weapon powerful enough
or
too powerful
change the damage_effect !!!!


PS: selentic ta geul !!!
jé limpérsion que tu a jamer fé de map que tu é un gros bouler qui coné rien
alor dégaje sal con

[Sel]

PS: selentic ta geul !!!
jé limpérsion que tu a jamer fé de map que tu é un gros bouler qui coné rien
alor dégaje sal con

I still dont speak french, and the translater tells me you called me a river in belgium.

[Heathen]

Something mean to selentic....

[OmegaDragon]

PS: selentic ta geul !!!
jé limpérsion que tu a jamer fé de map que tu é un gros bouler qui coné rien
alor dégaje sal con

:ohsnap:

:XD:

[TeeKup]

A Laser Beam *SLAP*

No.

The Sentinel Beam is a concentrated beam of super charged particles. A laser is a burst of energy that forms in small pulses.

[=sw=warlord]

No.

The Sentinel Beam is a concentrated beam of super charged particles. A laser is a burst of energy that forms in small pulses.
No.
A laser is a stream of charged photons being streamed in a thin line with the intensity to cause damage.

[Pooky]

A laser is an electronic-optical device that emits coherent light radiation. :eyesroll:

[=sw=warlord]

A laser is an electronic-optical device that emits coherent light radiation. :eyesroll:
and what is light radiation consisted off?
Thats right, photons.
if you managed to get a nice large magnifying glass you could make a nice laser with that to set fire to ants and such...that is if your disturbed that way other uses are setting siblings on fire.

[TeeKup]

That's basically what I said but in my own terms. Wtg.
Laser:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2901/thumbpreviewpngpw0.jpg

Beam:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8255/gundamseeddestiny4954pg9.jpg

Now shut up.

[=sw=warlord]

No.
you was reffering to microwave energy not photons.
l2research before making foolish comments.

[Pooky]

No.
you was reffering to microwave energy not photons.
l2research before making foolish comments.

How about shut up now unless you have something to say about the map.

[TeeKup]

I was referring to the shape and form of the burst not what it consists of. Jesus Christ.

[=sw=warlord]

I was referring to the shape and form of the burst not what it consists of. Jesus Christ.
He has nothing to do with this:XD:

[paladin]

gtfo...

[ultama121]

He has nothing to do with this:XD:
Nice try... :fail:

[Sel]

My point was that the sentinel beam will work just as badly with CEs netcode, as a laser, so it really doesnt matter :/

They work terribly over a network, so just stay away from them tbh.

[n00b1n8R]

Lasers work fine, it's the sword which fails miserably. :raise:

[Sel]

Lasers work fine, it's the sword which fails miserably. :raise:

Especially with that lunge script :/

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Script?

[n00b1n8R]

However it's done, it fails.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Mmm, yes.

BTW, we (Zteam) have agreed to take your map in when we have time. Though, of course, it definitely will not make us release our newer content early and therefore will be populated with PB2 content... unless you'd rather wait.

[Disaster]

He probably will wait lol. I would.

[ShadowSpartan]

He probably will wait lol. I would.
I don't see why he would. The PB2 content was fine and people had fun with it, hell people still play the PB2 maps in servers. He's gonna have to wait quite a while if he decides to not use our PB2 content.

[Pooky]

My point was that the sentinel beam will work just as badly with CEs netcode, as a laser, so it really doesnt matter :/

They work terribly over a network, so just stay away from them tbh.

:|

There was a sentinel beam in one of the CMT MP maps, and there was a sentinel beam you could dev spawn in all the pb2 zteam maps and they both worked fine :\

[itszutak]

Sentinel beams actually are the best to use with CE netcode. You sweep the laser until you hear the beeping, and hold it there. Much easier than say, the sniper rifle or even the pistol.
(See the spartan laser in CMT MP maps)

[Love De Lux]

Par la même occasion, nous ( Zteam) sommes d'accord pour s'occuper de votre map quand on en aura le temps. Mais, bien sur, ça ne nous fera pas sortir nos derniers contenus plus tôt, et ça sera populated avec les objets des PB2... sauf si vous préfèrez attendre.



Ca a l'air fantastique !

La seule chose que j'ai a dire, c'est que la riadosdité n'a pas l'air aussi bien que ce qu'elle pourrait être. Essayez de bidouiller vos lights shaders un peu plus, et d'assombrir les points de lumières ambiantes d'intérieur/exterieur pour accentuer les intérieurs.

Aussi, moins d'eau couleur bleu-néon serais le must

.

[GAIGHER]

ha ba tu é la toi
la map é fini je feré rien de plus desu

pui je peu pas écléré ma map avec les linche du model
je sui oblijer de plaser des linche fixtur

[GAIGHER]

je patiente

je fait une otre map
mé pas pour cmt ni z
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2775/newsmaplt4.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

Interesting concept.
Perhaps some Ice around the place to stop hogs hooning around too much?

[Sel]

lulz

AOTCR

[Corndogman]

Looks pretty cool, although I'd like to see that rendered.

[Love De Lux]

ha ba tu é la toi
la map é fini je feré rien de plus desu

pui je peu pas écléré ma map avec les linche du model
je sui oblijer de plaser des linche fixtur

Je faisais juste que traduire héhé :p

Pour l'éclairage, a toi de voir, moi perso j'yvais avec des scenery avec un marker ou y'a un effect qui crée une couleur lorsqu'on fait la lightmap ^^

Sinon il me semble que je me souviens de cette carte, c'est pas celle ou y'avaisune espece de mur invisible ?

[GAIGHER]

si sé elle mé sé bon je sé corijer se bug
jen é trouver 2 otre méme sur séte map
sé un bug qui figure méme pas dans la tool
il y en a méme sur les map Cmt ^^
regarde http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMph8NRva5w

moi pour les liche je plase des .device_light_fixture
j'ai méme fé une copy du sceneryo o ca ou il fon une coneri en plasen les arme ^^

[il Duce Primo]

I have seen that error in Seclusion. I think it's an error either with Blitzkrieg exporter or just tool.

[Masterz1337]

No clue waht causes it, arteen might know. I think he just shifts geometry aroudn till it disapears.

[GAIGHER]

we must move fist causing the error

not the tool
not .JMS

the error is not scripted

[Roostervier]

You usually get things like that when you have nearly co-planar errors in your map (tool will tell you about them). It usually only affects projectiles and vehicles.

[Sel]

Most of my maps tend to have those, but Ive never noticed any of those before.

I guess import the WRL and look if there are any coplanars in the area where the projectiles and stuff are getting fucked?

[Corndogman]

Ghost faces, fix any co-planars you may have, maybe move some verts if you can, then re-export the jms. recompile and all that.

[GAIGHER]

Ghost faces not scripted .WRL

I find playing on the map
there are on every map

not on the map for Halo *
it is a special tool

[GAIGHER]

je continue l'autre map
I still another map

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5620/lingeef3.jpg


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6132/solegg9.jpg

[paladin]

Looks nice, I would try to be a bit more original though.

[Ki11a_FTW]

those projectile and vehicle errors are so fucking annoying. Look in my destination map between the base thats near the ledge and the middle structure, and fire a rocket, it will explode on nothing, vehicles crash into it to, i didnt check if V2 fixxed it... but its kind of annoying to fix if its on a structure, terrain is more easy

[n00b1n8R]

What's up doc?

[GAIGHER]

How long I must wait ?

My Msn gaigher@hotmail.fr

[Sel]

Gawsh, I think the frenchies scared away CAD D:

And be patient, CAD has a lot on his plate, yoyorast, Zteam shits, and your thing. Give him time.

[Heathen]

Damn....stop piling the guy....thats why he's receded into the depths of rl.....the poor guy has started living again.

[GAIGHER]

he knows not tag on the Internet ?

[NuggetWarmer]

He has a real life, meaning that he has personal things to work on. No offense, but I think you should take an English class. :o

[Patrickssj6]

No offense, but I think you should take an English class. :o
How about YOU take an French/Spanish class? You can fucking easily derive words from his basic French.

Second option, just shut up.

[NuggetWarmer]

No thanks, I'd rather not. :)

Also, clearly stated in the rules that you must fluently speak ENGLISH.

[Patrickssj6]

Yes and that's the most stupid rule I've ever seen. You would rather have him leave? Along with me...if I would have started on this forum and I would have followed the rules I wouldn't be posting right now :v:

[NuggetWarmer]

The main reason I told him to take English classes, is not only for our sake, but for his. Right now he thinks that CAD has to give him the tags in real life. :-/

[GAIGHER]

I only made
I took the map z_sanctuary
I crak ...
HEX ...

look img Z'team Tag
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7725/gaigherpk2.jpg


http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8187/gaighe1lu2.jpg




And BSP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9388/zstructurgz6.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6452/zteamxq1.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/723/zteamstructurxe3.jpg

[ultama121]

Gaigher, I'm guessing that you think that CtrlAltDestroy has to give you the tags in real life (like what Nugget said). That is a misunderstanding, you just need to wait for CtrlAltDestroy to get time.

Argh, I wish De Lux was here to translate perfectly :(.

[GAIGHER]

ok ok
why not add it on the internet ?
ok i pasient

lol look "cmt_Snow_Grove.map"
http://images0.hiboox.com/images/2008/1zuntwb8.jpg

http://images0.hiboox.com/images/2008/a50a0hqd.jpg

[ultama121]

I'm afraid that if I say anymore I'll just confuse you more. He will add it on the internet, not real life. I didn't mean to confuse you.

[GAIGHER]

yes yes I patient
I wait

[ultama121]

Oh ok. :)

[Choking Victim]

I suggest you don't rip anymore like that GAIGHER, besides, those tags are old. Our current maps you can't "crak" as we've made a program to protect them. Why would you want to rip models that you can get from halo 2 anyway?

[Corndogman]

I don't think CMT or ZTeam will be too happy about you ripping their content.

Translation:
Je ne pense pas que CMT ou ZTeam sera trop heureux au sujet de toi déchirant leur contenu

[GAIGHER]

he ok

lol look spartan laser cmt_Snow_Grove.map
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9499/lasermu6.jpg

[Sel]

So youre able to rip from CMT and Zteam, Good job, now what brought this on, or are you just trying to be the next (old) Cheatsman?

[Masterz1337]

It doens't matter, he told me about it befor ehe even psoted this. TBH, I don't care, long as he checks with me before giving stuff out or using it.

[HDoan]

he ok

lol look spartan laser cmt_Snow_Grove.map
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9499/lasermu6.jpg
Oh wow you can rip, big deal. It just shows us that you will stoop low enough to rip from protected maps instead of waiting, and to make it worse you show off.

[Masterz1337]

Actually it's pretty cool he's only the second person to crack encryption.

[ShadowSpartan]

Actually it's pretty cool he's only the second person to crack encryption.
Wonder who the first could be? :p

Anyway, I doubt he actually cracked the encryption, all he did was extract single tags using hek+. It was just random of what models he got. Any person can do it.

[t3h m00kz]

Oh wow you can rip, big deal. It just shows us that you will stoop low enough to rip from protected maps instead of waiting, and to make it worse you show off.

Wait for what exactly?

Personally I think it's fine if he rips them. Using them, however, is something else. He's proven to know how to model and have some very good knowledge of the Halo modding system.

Hell he might learn a thing or two from the models he has now... but I feel if he wanted to use them in his own map I think he needs permission of the creators to do so.

I've always felt that an open source Halo would be a good idea. UT2004 has that sort of system and it works out really well. However, doing things like using content without permission in my opinion is unacceptable and those who do such things should be shat upon.

It's always amazed me that people would go through such drastic steps to protect their content and not release it open source for everyone to have fun with... I mean shit. I made a few weapons that I put a lot of effort into, and while I did have it protected for a while, I eventually opensourced it when I was "done."

I worked on it as something everyone could enjoy.

Also.


all he did was extract single tags using hek+. It was just random of what models he got. Any person can do it.

Don't think you should have said that out loud :haw:

[ShadowSpartan]

Don't think you should have said that out loud :haw:
It's common knowledge anyway, so didn't really matter.

There isn't much he can do with the extracted models and bsps. All he has from us is the models from Halo 2....which aren't that hard to get. He doesn't have any useful tags but I still don't like the fact that he is bragging about getting a few models and the bsp from our maps.

[Arteen]

Anyway, I doubt he actually cracked the encryption, all he did was extract single tags using hek+. It was just random of what models he got. Any person can do it.
I just tried it and HEK+ wouldn't let me. :(

Not that I need to rip anything; I don't need CMT's tags and I have a bunch of unprotected versions anyway, but :fail: regardless.

[ShadowSpartan]

I just tried it and HEK+ wouldn't let me. :(

Not that I need to rip anything; I don't need CMT's tags and I have a bunch of unprotected versions anyway, but :fail: regardless.

Its not really the fault of HEK+, but rather Windows.

[t3h m00kz]

It's common knowledge anyway, so didn't really matter.

There isn't much he can do with the extracted models and bsps. All he has from us is the models from Halo 2....which aren't that hard to get. He doesn't have any useful tags but I still don't like the fact that he is bragging about getting a few models and the bsp from our maps.


Okay man. That's cool. But I still think everyone takes the whole ripping thing way too seriously, personally.

I mean it's just a game, gosh darn.

[NuggetWarmer]

Ripping is for losers. I prefer to make my own stuff.

[t3h m00kz]

Yes, this is true, making your own stuff is great. However there are tons one could learn from tags that other people have made. Z-Team's sword with a very accurate, working lunge for instance. I have no idea how that weapon works. However I've managed to boggle minds with my Shock Rifle and Fuel Rod. I've open sourced the weapons for anybody who wants to use/learn from them, because if more people get to look over quality weapons, more will learn to make their own, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there won't be less people ripping and putting the shit in their own maps, there will be more of that as well... but for people that actually want to LEARN to be creative and mod, they can learn more easily if they've got some good examples of weapon tags.

Come to think of it, tags are one thing, models are something completely different. I'm more of a tag-worker than anything else, I've got little to no skill in 3DS Max, so I guess I don't know how what it's like to put HOURS OF WORK into something and have other people use it.

So... whatever, man. ;o

[n00b1n8R]

Who cares if it's ripped. CAD said he can use their stuff, Masterz said it was ok to rip it (though he didn't seem to give permission to release it), WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

Everyone get out of your bandwagons.

[p0lar_bear]

Stop making a huge fuss over ripped items. The models are technically Bungie's property once they're in the map cache file. If the creator cared so much, they'd ask Bungie to issue a C&D. Also, I wonder why I never see anyone up in arms over ripping, modifying, and reusing Bungie's stock content.

Gaigher, vous avez étudié anglais du tout? Votre anglais est tres mal, mais votre travaux est bon. C'est la seule raison que je ne vous ai pas interdit, pour être honnête.
Gaigher, did you study English at all? Your English is very bad, but your work is good. It's the only reason I haven't banned you, to be honest.

[GAIGHER]

he ok cool ^^

cmt_tensity.map ...
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/373/cmttensityhh9.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

What's the point of you showing off these extracted BSP's?

[yoyorast]

Conseil de français : Mec je sais pas si tu comprends tout ce qu'ils te disent mais les modérateurs veulent que tu arrête de poster des photos de map de bungie.. tu devrais rester dans le sujet du topic, Ã* savoir : ta map (qui est pas mal dailleurs).

[GAIGHER]

ok ok j'arétte
mé sé cool a fair

bon jaten alor ...

[Patrickssj6]

and here with my crippled understanding of French for you Americans:

Yoyo: "If you don't understand everything they say, the moderators want you to stop posting pictures of maps from Bungie. Stay on the subject of your topic, in this case your map (which isn't to bad by the way).

xD

[Heathen]

Wish someone spoke spanish.....I'd be useful :P

[Reaper Man]

Wish someone spoke spanish.....I'd be useful :P
Oh dear god. It's French. http://www.squareforums.com/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

Or

Dios Mio, es francés.

[MetKiller Joe]

Wish someone spoke spanish.....I'd be useful :P


I'm surprised nobody has used babelfish.

[Timo]

Oh dear god. It's French. http://www.squareforums.com/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

Or

Dios Mio, es francés.

Oh dear god. It's in English.

He meant that he can understand Spanish, so if someone that only spoke Spanish, he could help.

;p

[Llama Juice]

I'm surprised nobody has used babelfish.


Babelfish works well when its all spelt right.. otherwise it chokes.

[Sel]

I'm surprised nobody has used babelfish.

If GAIGHER werent speaking LEET french, then maybe it would work.

[GAIGHER]

heee ok

...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4567/maput9.jpg

[Rentafence]

My god man, you're like a machine. Your pumping out maps left and right!

[NuggetWarmer]

Ok, you ripped the base and some terrain from the Halo Campaign and just changed the textures a little?

[Monopoly]

No, you ripped it.

[Sel]

Ok, you ripped the base and some terrain from the Halo Campaign and just changed the textures a little?

.

[Tweek]

you know you can actually learn alot from ripping?

posting it as your own is quite another thing though.

[Rentafence]

Wait wat? What level is that? It looks like the last level of halo 3.

[SnaFuBAR]

part of silent cartographer i think.

[Tweek]

assault on the control room, the last bit, where you actually enter the controlroom

[SnaFuBAR]

yeh i figured it was one of the two.

[n00b1n8R]

Wait wat? What level is that? It looks like the last level of halo 3.
Did you even play halo 1?

[Rentafence]

Did you even play halo 1?

Yes I did mister. However the last time I played that particular level was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. <:mad:>

[BobtheGreatII]

you know you can actually learn alot from ripping?

posting it as your own is quite another thing though.

When did he start claiming it as his own model?

[Pooky]

Wait wat? What level is that? It looks like the last level of halo 3.


part of silent cartographer i think.

:lol:

[t3h m00kz]

Good lord...

Assault on the Control Room

And the last level in Halo 3.

They're both basically the same place, because the re-made ring in Halo 3 is a replacement for the Halo ring in Halo 1.

Not to spoil the story. Goddam.

[Arteen]

Good lord...

Assault on the Control Room

And the last level in Halo 3.

They're both basically the same place,
But they're pretty unmistakable, given the myriad obvious and significant differences between them. :eyesroll:

[t3h m00kz]

That's true, but I think it's implied that they're the same general area... with the design of the interior halls and all ;P

[GAIGHER]

lol b40.map halo1 :XD:

and it cool ?

[NuggetWarmer]

No, not really.

[Sel]

I dont really like it, its just the AOTCR thing mirrored :|

[Arteen]

I can't say I like it. It doesn't look it would make a particularly fun map unless it has significant changes to the original mesh that the picture didn't show. :\

[Pooky]

I always thought the control center pyramid would make an awesome multiplayer base... but the way you've got the middle of the map set up it would be pistol/sniper hell.

[Sel]

Then theres the little thing about getting all the way up to the top of the other base, which takes all of 5 minutes :|

[Pooky]

Then theres the little thing about getting all the way up to the top of the other base, which takes all of 5 minutes :|

Except you can always change some of the original base and add other paths :u

[Corndogman]

yea, change up the bases a little to make it easier to climb, and maybe add some other pathways, like some tunnels in the cliffs or something.

[Arteen]

Except you can always change some of the original base and add other paths :u
But we're commenting on Gaigher's map, which doesn't do that. :u

[Pooky]

But we're commenting on Gaigher's map, which doesn't do that. :u

Except I'm offering advice, not really just commenting :u

[Arteen]

Except I'm offering advice, not really just commenting :uWell, I also agree that the area has potential given some changes to the layout. ü

[n00b1n8R]

What if you spawned in the other team's base on CTF (which would be this map's main game mode)?

[Sel]

What if you spawned in the other team's base on CTF (which would be this map's main game mode)?

Thats called assault, except you dont spawn in the other teams base, their flag spawns in yours.

[GAIGHER]

Me GAIGHER
Me no idiot ;)

Shee fly (noob :p)
Cave (Red cave , Blou cave)
Jump (no death)
Valley (Gost , Wartog ...)
Téléporteur , Bridge
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1174/pasagetc5.jpg

[itszutak]

Is there cover between bases? Pistols or snipers could destroy anyone attempting to cross through the middle >_>

[NuggetWarmer]

I don't really like it.

[Sel]

I don't really like it.

This, and stop turbosmoothing.

[Lateksi]

I see... is the structure scaled down or something? Would be pain in the ass to play that map with less than ten players.

[GAIGHER]

BIG map (noob , no gameplay)

middle map = Wartog , Gost , Tank , Pelican , C_Guner , Shee ....
Weap = canon , roket , big sniper .... (noob weap)

the french call on a large map
this is what I done
OK !!!

PS: JATEN pour Z_Révolte ....

[Lateksi]

Yeah thats cool but what's a big sniper? Like a one-shot-kill sniper?

[GAIGHER]

big sniper = Noob Weap (Killer Veicul 1shot 1kill)

noob weap <=> noob veicul
hé !!! ^^

[NuggetWarmer]

Ok, so I can see this'll be real fun...

NOT.

[Hotrod]

That map might be better if the bases were designed so you could just walk to the top with one, straight ramp, therefore not taking 10 minutes to go up, and if the bases were a bit further away, maybe on a curved path, a bit like Sidewinder. Some cover in between the bases would be good as well.

[Sel]

I dont think it really had any gameplay potential. Using singleplayer structures as multiplayer bases in most cases is a very bad idea. They were not designed for multiplayer, and dont really work with it too well.

Exceptions are of course the infinity bases, and one or two others.

[Lateksi]

So umm, what happened to the Halo 2 styled map? I think it was way cooler than this. Let's not even talk about the gameplay!

[supersniper]

Personally I would make this map smaller or add much cover in the center and keep the weapons to classic. (also if you intend on keeping the vehicles put many rockets or fuels in the center.) Also if you put shees in make it so they cannot shoot the fuel shot. or at least balance it out. When making this map you want to think of every single aspect of game play before you think about how it will look or the size. Yes the French people want a big map but as you see here the community is not that interested in anymore big maps.

[TeeKup]

Let's not even talk about the gameplay!

Yes because we all know thats irrelevant anyway..

[n00b1n8R]

Thats called assault, except you dont spawn in the other teams base, their flag spawns in yours.
Yeah, I get that, but the difference here is that it's not one team attacking at a time (like in the assault games I usually see), but both doing it. Pushing deep into the "other team's base" seems to be really what this map would be suited for.

Yeah, they could just play it on assault, but nobody actually plays that game type.

[Pooky]

That map might be better if the bases were designed so you could just walk to the top with one, straight ramp, therefore not taking 10 minutes to go up, and if the bases were a bit further away, maybe on a curved path, a bit like Sidewinder. Some cover in between the bases would be good as well.

This.

It might be good with a wide straight ramp with no cover going up the middle, and all those narrow spiraly ramps with lots of cover for a longer but safer way up.

[n00b1n8R]

This.

It might be good with a wide straight ramp with no cover going up the middle, and all those narrow spiraly ramps with lots of cover for a longer but safer way up.
There is one of those. :raise:

[Pooky]

There is one of those. :raise:

on the base itself

[n00b1n8R]

It is.
I've run up that thing so many times in SP (whenever I don't go for the banshee).

[GAIGHER]

my map my decisions !!
the french love


PS : CtrlAltDestroy
I will finish the deam_sentinel and publish it on halomaps.org

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/24/firerx6.jpg

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/2140/mellebt6.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

CtrlAltDelDestroy gave you permission to their tags in this map too?

[GAIGHER]

no ^^
nothing has buffered !!

or is CtrlAltDelDestroy ?
I would improve its tag ^^

[SnaFuBAR]

if he didn't give you permission, don't use it and don't publish it :rolleyes:

[GAIGHER]

expects that says "yes" ?
ahahahha
nothing has buffered !!

I will not wait
I have already waited long enough

nothing has permission to masturbate !!
if someone banned me I crak every tag !!

Me GAIGHER 1st FR Mod Map Halo CE full and trial !

[n00b1n8R]

Is this guy saying what I think he's trying to say?

[Sel]

I gave up on trying to understand his posts a while ago.

[Patrickssj6]

How about we ban him? I feel rebellious.

[Bastinka]

nothing has permission to masturbate !!
if someone banned me I crak every tag !!

Me GAIGHER 1st FR Mod Map Halo CE full and trial !
Lol I think hes angry cuz a lot of people hate the french. This is a reason why, but I thought he was pretty cool up until now.

And no you're not the first French modder for Halo CE, yoyorast is first FR modder for Mod Map Halo CE full and trial !

[Lateksi]

How about we ban him? I feel rebellious.
Yeah lol but I guess you didn't read the if someone banned me I crak every tag !! -part.

[Patrickssj6]

Yeah lol but I guess you didn't read the if someone banned me I crak every tag !! -part.
lmao

Why do you think I added the "I feel rebellious" part? Do you think I give a...if he "cracks" (wth does he mean with cracking anyway?) anything?

He is in no position to make any threats, that salope.

[Bastinka]

Who cares?
He'll end up like being ahs sonic, that i crack everything guy and anyone else that nobody really gives a shit aboot :P Mostly Halomaps.org people (kids), not saying all of them are kids, just most.

[Lateksi]

You guys are propably right but it's not nice if he ends up making maps full of other peoples content to what he hasn't got permission to use.

Damn I have to study some english more, I make my posts look too complex or something O.o

[SnaFuBAR]

expects that says "yes" ?
ahahahha
nothing has buffered !!

I will not wait
I have already waited long enough

nothing has permission to masturbate !!
if someone banned me I crak every tag !!

Me GAIGHER 1st FR Mod Map Halo CE full and trial !
all i read was GIVE US TEH TAGZ!! why don't you just do your own work? permission to masturbate?? what the hell?? you naive child.

[Hotrod]

Lol I think hes angry cuz a lot of people hate the french. This is a reason why, but I thought he was pretty cool up until now.

And no you're not the first French modder for Halo CE, yoyorast is first FR modder for Mod Map Halo CE full and trial !

Actually, I think he's angry because we're telling him that he's not allowed to use other people's tags without permission. Since he thinks that CtrlAltDestroy will say yes, then to him, that means he can use them.

Yoyorast is French? I never knew that, though it doesn't really make that much of a difference.

[Corndogman]

Yoyorast can communicate perfectly fine with us in English though.

[NuggetWarmer]

I think he's trying to tell us that he is going to masturbate on the admin who bans him, then suddenly become pregnant with tags. Oh, and Borat is in there somewhere...

[n00b1n8R]

Lol I think hes angry cuz a lot of people hate the french. This is a reason why, but I thought he was pretty cool up until now.

And no you're not the first French modder for Halo CE, yoyorast is first FR modder for Mod Map Halo CE full and trial !
No love for love de lux?

I think he's trying to tell us that he is going to masturbate on the admin who bans him, then suddenly become pregnant with tags. Oh, and Borat is in there somewhere...
I lol'd

But anyways, I'm all for opensource tags, but if the authors don't want their tags used by other people, then thats their say. All you've done now is make you look like an immature retard who's throwing a tanty because he may not get his way.

[Phopojijo]

Keep it civil guys.

But yea, other modding communities are open-source. In fact, the Unreal community's official editors can open content by default. Nothing is "protected". Anything made can be decompiled.

[t3h m00kz]

^- this man speaks the truth. Some absolutely epic mods for UT2004 that people have worked uber hard on are all 100% open sauce.

http://runestorm.com/ for instance. AMAZING STUFF, and it's all open sauce.

[GAIGHER]

or he is gone (CtrlAltDestroy)
He said "yes" to add the tag on "Z_Révolte"
he looked , he looked , he looked
it not time !
I made myself ! (I have the time)

[n00b1n8R]

Yes, but has he said you can add it to the other map (the one with the control room bases)?

[Choking Victim]

or he is gone (CtrlAltDestroy)
He said "yes" to add the tag on "Z_Révolte"
he looked , he looked , he looked
it not time !
I made myself ! (I have the time)
Zteam in no way shape or form gave you permission to rip our tags. If you had the patience to wait a few weeks longer, you would have gotten some updated tags with all new content. But just because of this, you're now left with old unfinished beta versions of our tags. Due to our new protection program, you won't be able to rip any of our newer content.

If anyone can translate to french, please do.

[Sel]

or he is gone (CtrlAltDestroy)
He said "yes" to add the tag on "Z_Révolte"
he looked , he looked , he looked
it not time !
I made myself ! (I have the time)

He said that he would do the map population with the tags, he did not say you could do it. Also, nice job blowing it.
:dramabomb::dramabomb::dramabomb::dramabomb::drama bomb:

[Love De Lux]

Zteam in no way shape or form gave you permission to rip our tags. If you had the patience to wait a few weeks longer, you would have gotten some updated tags with all new content. But just because of this, you're now left with old unfinished beta versions of our tags. Due to our new protection program, you won't be able to rip any of our newer content.

If anyone can translate to french, please do.

La Zteam en aucune manière ne t'as donné la permission de ripper nos tags. Si tu avais eu la patience d'attendre quelques semaines de plus, tu aurais eu les tags mis Ã* jour avec le tout nouveau contenu. Mais a cause de ça, tu est coincé avec de vieux tags pas finis. Grâce a notre nouveau programme de protection, tu ne sera pas capable de ripper aucun de notre nouveau contenu.

----------------

Bravo Gaigher, tu a baissé dans l'estime de tout le monde ici, voler des tags, c'était la chose la plus stupide que tu pouvais faire.
Je prendrai le temps de traduire d'autres posts plus tard =/

Congrats Gaigher, you're now seen as a lamer, stealing tags was the stupidest thing you could do. I'll take the time to translate some posts later =/

[GAIGHER]

Oups ok
javé pas tou bien compri ^^

[SnaFuBAR]

ENGLISH! DO YOU SPEAK IT?! Post in english, and not your broken, poor french that we can't translate.

E: this is what he had posted before:


Oups
bon je vé atendre que Z'team fase els nouvel map Bloker
je poré les craker enco

[Tweek]

Oups
bon je vé atendre que Z'team fase els nouvel map Bloker
je poré les craker enco


dear sir, i kindly ask you to slowly die in a fire.
when you are dead, once again, i shall have gained some happiness.

furthermore, i would like to request that your family take their own lives as well, as to prevent your genepool from corrupting our precious race further.

much love and kisses,
Tweek.

[§partan 8]

по английски пожалуйста абвгдеёжзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя№

[Lateksi]

Mitä vittua te oikein puhutte? Tää menee ihan pellolle koko paska, kukaan tästä mitään tolkkua saa.

[DrunkenSamus]

Umm...WHAT? This thread is seriously spiraling out of control and I have no idea what the hell is going on. And why did someone say something in Russian?

[bleach]

So this is now Zteam_Révolte? Lol, why doesn't Gaigher just make custom weapons?
I've seen so many infractions and warnings this week.

[ShadowSpartan]

So this is now Zteam_Révolte? Lol, why doesn't Gaigher just make custom weapons?
You obviously haven't read the thread thoroughly. We were going to populate it and such, but we are very busy people. He got impatient and decided to take it into his own hands and rip some of the tags out of our maps. They were old and outdated tags, and have improved much since then. Now he won't be getting any tags at all from Zteam, so no this is not Zteam_Révolte.

[bleach]

Like what others said before me: he made a bad decision and should have waited.

[mek]

GAIGHER, word on the street is you got a tiny dick

[Roostervier]

My friend translated it as, "Oops well I'll wait until Zteam makes a new map ''blocker(protector??) I haven't cracked it yet."

Still, your stuff was pretty impressive for a random new guy, wish you would have been more patient. :\

[t3h m00kz]

So this is now Zteam_Révolte? Lol, why doesn't Gaigher just make custom weapons?
I've seen so many infractions and warnings this week.
Making a map and making weapons are two completely different things.

I'm a tagger; and I can tell you it's a completely different thing than modeling a map. I have no experience whatsoever for modeling a map, or modeling in general. If you were to ask me to make a map although I have experience making unique, custom weapons, I'd fail miserably.

[il Duce Primo]

The people who are saying that he should have waited and say he made a mistake for ripping the content. I see nothing wrong in ripping and then the people in Zteam say he did it without permission. Why does he need permission from you? None of that stuff he ripped belongs to you. He is mapping and does it for a hobby most likely and you are just saying don't do this because we said so. Such bullshit you speak of.

[DaneO'Roo]

^ no, just no.

[GAIGHER]

qui vous dit que jé craker les tag ?
j'ai tré bien pu les refér a 0
nn ?

Z'team neré pas plase les tag de toute fason
quen il eré vu les astuse de la map :eek:

[SnaFuBAR]

you know looking back at your other work, and the fact that you've shown yourself to be a ripper, i don't believe you modeled much of anything in "revolt". it's just a rip of uprising (i believe that would be one definition of "Révolte").

you didn't model this map.

[DaneO'Roo]

I agree. Also, for fucks sake why aren't translators actually translating his speech?

[SnaFuBAR]

because he posts in broken "leet" french.

[GAIGHER]

moi jutilise lui
http://translate.google.com

[SnaFuBAR]

think we haven't tried that? POST IN ENGLISH, YOU USE THE TRANSLATOR.

[GAIGHER]

you know looking back at your other work, and the fact that you've shown yourself to be a ripper, i don't believe you modeled much of anything in "revolt". it's just a rip of uprising (i believe that would be one definition of "Révolte").

you didn't model this map.

paréxenple la avec http://translate.google.com
sa dit que jé pas le modé 3D de la map et que sé pas moi qui les fait
mé je pense que sé pas sa
SnaFuBAR a lére intélijen il a du voire toute les foto que jé poser de le construction du 3D

[SnaFuBAR]

can't understand you, and it doesn't translate. speak english.

[GAIGHER]

think we haven't tried that? POST IN ENGLISH, YOU USE THE TRANSLATOR.

a la je croi que j'ait commpri
il me di décrire en engler avec le traducteur

Englich:
yes I will do my mieu

[p0lar_bear]

That's a little better.

So answer this question:

What, exactly, is going on here? From what I can understand, you felt that CtrlAltDestroy took too long to respond to you, so you decided to rip tags from older builds.

Now that you have them, you're going to fix and release them, and if we ban you for it, you're going to crack the encryption on Zteam's maps so you can rip the tags anyway.

Is this correct?

[GAIGHER]

yes

map will be called "Z_Révolte"
there will be a credit to the tag

3 days to crack 1 tag
I prefer to keep for me

[p0lar_bear]

Well, you're not going to get banned for ripping old tags. The worst that's going to happen already has; the community generally dislikes you and ZTeam doesn't want to help you with official content anymore. What WILL get you banned is if you keep posting like an idiot; keep in mind that for reasons unknown, the staff has been lenient on you with the first thing mentioned in our registration terms and conditions: that you must be capable of writing legibly in English; something you fail miserably at time and time again.

The only things I can suggest to you are: change your map name. You are not affiliated with ZTeam, and releasing your map as such will confuse users. Also, if and when you release the tags, make sure you distinguish clearly that you are not with ZTeam.

This whole situation is petty and childish, nothing I can do now except facepalm.jpg and roll with it.

TO OTHER USERS: Keep it civil in here. Before any of you go on about how he's stealing ZTeam's content, keep in mind about what ZTeam's content is. For one, the source was rips from Halo 2, modified to work on Halo 1's engine better. Two, the tags themselves legally belong to Bungie. Anyone posting to chastize GAIGHER further for "stealing tags" or being a ripper will be penalized. You people need to realize that dragging on drama and senselessly bashing people, even if it seems they deserve it, is killing what little community there is.

[supersniper]

You people need to realize that dragging on drama and senselessly bashing people, even if it seems they deserve it, is killing what little community there is.
I've been trying to say that for years...

Also GAIGHER personally I would just delete the tags apologize and start making your own stuff again. You will be more respected. I had high hopes for this map but not anymore. It now feels like another blood gulch mod to me. Better luck in the future.

[GAIGHER]

oula ^^
ok

[t3h m00kz]

Before any of you go on about how he's stealing ZTeam's content, keep in mind about what ZTeam's content is. For one, the source was rips from Halo 2, modified to work on Halo 1's engine better. Two, the tags themselves legally belong to Bungie.

You just said what I didn't have enough balls to say. Kudos :haw:

I agree that it's BS that everyone's so overprotective of their work when it doesn't even entirely belong to them.

Besides, From what I've seen, open source modding communities manage to accomplish so much more than ones like this.

Look at some Source games, as well as the UT series. What does Halo: CE have to show in comparison to even one of those? Not nearly as much. And Halo: CE's relatively easy to mod too! Even I'VE managed to swap out some weapon models... I've yet to do that in any other engine.

[Love De Lux]

Well, you're not going to get banned for ripping old tags. The worst that's going to happen already has; the community generally dislikes you and ZTeam doesn't want to help you with official content anymore. What WILL get you banned is if you keep posting like an idiot; keep in mind that for reasons unknown, the staff has been lenient on you with the first thing mentioned in our registration terms and conditions: that you must be capable of writing legibly in English; something you fail miserably at time and time again.

The only things I can suggest to you are: change your map name. You are not affiliated with ZTeam, and releasing your map as such will confuse users. Also, if and when you release the tags, make sure you distinguish clearly that you are not with ZTeam.



Bien, vous n’allez pas être banni pour avoir ripper des vieux tafs. Le plus grave de ce qui pouvai arriver est déjÃ* arrivé; la communauté en général ne vous apprécie pas and la Zteam ne veut plus vous aider avec leurs contenus. Ce qui vous FERA banni c’est si vous continuez de poster comme un idiot, n’oubliez pas que pour des raisons unconnus, le staff a déjÃ* été indulgent avec cette première chose mentionné dans nos termes d’inscription et de conditions : vous devez être capable d’écrire dans un bon Anglais ; ce que vous avez raté misérablement encore et encore.

Les seules choses que je puis vous suggerez sont : changez le nom de votre map. Vous n’êtes pas associé avec la Zteam et sortir votre map en tant que tel troublera les utilisateurs. Aussi, si et quand vous sortirez les tags, soyez bien sûr d’écrire que ils ne sont pas les votres mais ceux de la Zteam.

[GAIGHER]

a ok
japéle pas la map Z mait je mai un crédi

[Pooky]

TO OTHER USERS: Keep it civil in here. Before any of you go on about how he's stealing ZTeam's content, keep in mind about what ZTeam's content is. For one, the source was rips from Halo 2, modified to work on Halo 1's engine better. Two, the tags themselves legally belong to Bungie. Anyone posting to chastize GAIGHER further for "stealing tags" or being a ripper will be penalized. You people need to realize that dragging on drama and senselessly bashing people, even if it seems they deserve it, is killing what little community there is.

Not to mention that this particular drama is as old as the community itself :eyesroll:

[GAIGHER]

I halo2 and Halo 2 Map Editor
you said that was not the tag halo 2 ?

[Apoc4lypse]

bleh... there all just angry because you want to call the map z-Révolte or what ever. (They don't want you pretending to be part of the z map team, or they don't want the map to be called z-Révolte when z team didn't do anything, or didn't want you using there stuff) Which is funny because instead of whining about wanting credit, now there whining that they don't want there name to be put on the map, which is just a complete paradox when compared to what most people end up complaining about when there stuff gets stolen :o)

To be honest, I like this guy, I don't care if hes taking stuff with out permission, mainly because hes doing so with a good cause (good map and good bsp that was custom made, hes proving himself that much) complimenting good weapons and tags that were made by the community. The very reason open sourcing has its benefits, it lets the community collaborate better when it comes to making maps.

The reason I like this guy, hes just going around all the bullcrap boundaries that hinder good maps from being made with out a care in the world for what we think, but at the same time hasn't really done anything wrong.

Hes making a map, and its most likely going to be good... so in the end it doesn't matter how or where he got the tags, as long as theres credit, which he is gladly giving to the creators.

[ShadowSpartan]

Which is funny because instead of whining about wanting credit, now there whining that they don't want there name to be put on the map, which is just a complete paradox when compared to what most people end up complaining about when there stuff gets stolen :o

We never have "whined" about our name being put on the map, in fact we have not whined at all. We were complaining about our tags getting ripped out of our maps. If we wanted them to be out in the public...we would open source the maps. It's our choice whether to give out the tags, not anyone else's choice.


To be honest, I like this guy, I don't care if hes taking stuff with out permission, mainly because hes doing so with a good cause (good map and good bsp that was custom made, hes proving himself that much)
Oh so stealing tags from other community members makes a person all glorified in your eyes? It's so sad that you actually believe that.


The reason I like this guy, hes just going around all the bullcrap boundaries that hinder good maps from being made with out a care in the world for what we think, but at the same time hasn't really done anything wrong.
Yes he has done something wrong, taken tags out of our maps without our permission. The maps are protected for a reason and a person should respect that. I hardly think of map protection as "bullcrap boundaries", just a way to keep our tags from going into shitty maps, which is exactly what would happen. We were all for letting him use our tags and populating the map for him, but then he got impatient, ripped our tags, and in doing so ruined it for himself.


Hes making a map, and its most likely going to be good... so in the end it doesn't matter how or where he got the tags, as long as theres credit, which he is gladly giving to the creators.
It does matter because ripped tags out of a protected map is disrespectful to the map creators because they obviously don't want their content getting out there.

[p0lar_bear]

Oh so stealing tags from other community members makes a person all glorified in your eyes? It's so sad that you actually believe that.From whom, again? Those are Microsoft's tags. They were Microsoft's tags from the moment Tool spit them out or you clicked File > New and then File > Save in Guerilla or Kornman. Read the EULA.


It does matter because ripped tags out of a protected map is disrespectful to the map creators because they obviously don't want their content getting out there.If people didn't want their content getting out there, they wouldn't release the content in the first place. Once you put something out into a map cache file and distribute it, anyone with the know-how can and will rip from it if they have the desire, knowledge, and tools.

The Halo community is the only modding community I have ever seen with this problem. Wake up people: you don't own shit, end of story. That is something you must accept if you're going to use the HEK and Bungie's engine/data structure. If you don't want people getting your stuff, then don't freaking release it.

Any further discussion of pro/anti-ripping in this thread will result in some infractions. Knock off the drama. :cop:

[GAIGHER]

Insomnia_map soon



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[SnaFuBAR]

Did they tell you that you could use the tags?

[Apoc4lypse]

E: n/m... but oh gr8 here we go again.

[Choking Victim]

Did they tell you that you could use the tags?
Nope

[Sel]

Oh great its this cunt again.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Nope

lawl.. well it looks good