Quick-Crit 2008-2009

[Advancebo]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/advanceodsthelmet.png
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/advanceodsthelmetwire.png

Polys: 135
Triangles: 252

[Sever]

Oh god the proportions and facets are WAAAAAAAAY off. At least take a glimpse at some reference material before attempting to model anything. Look at H3's Spartan ODST Helmet, H2/H3 ODST's, the Landfall and Prepare to Drop trailers, and maybe even the McFarlane toy version.

[DEElekgolo]

WTF! Thats my helmet!
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9595&page=149

[Hotrod]

No, the two helmets are different. Put them side by side, and you'll see the differences.

The proportions are off, and more polys couldn't hurt.

[Advancebo]

DEEHunter thinks he sent me his odst helmet model, and i just copied off of it. With exact vertex placement. What I did was use his helmet as a reference, as it looked easy to me model. I can easily see differences in his picture, and mines.

[Heathen]

What's wrong with her hair exactly? Oh, and you're right about the nose. Just a bit too big.
Idk, maybe just how it is untextured, but I dont like the way it does at the bottom. Looks too fat >.>


Reminds me of the mass production Evangelion's:


Swat I was thinking.


WTF! Thats my helmet!
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9595&page=149
Naw, its different. Yours looks nicer imo, but still not too awesome. Maybe textured up and crap, but i have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

[DEElekgolo]

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5866/vraygitemplatesa0.png
Left is smoothed. Right is un-smoothed.

[ICEE]

Well I have a lot of stuff going lately, so my progress has been slow but here: my latest throw grenade animation. These have always been my Achilles heel, so criticism would be helpful.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z295/iron_clad_photo/animations/throw.gif

[BobtheGreatII]

I'm pretty sure that when you throw something, you have to pronate... which would be bringing your (left) hand over to your right side when you turn your body to throw... Just looks like he's swatting at something in yours. Right hand animation looks great though. I'll leave it to the experts from here...

[ICEE]

I was actually thinking of bringing the entire left arm in some so less upperarm is visible. I think you might be right about that though.

[NuggetWarmer]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/Beamriflefinalmb.jpg
Hi.

[rossmum]

That looks quite smooth, I always failed at smoothing

Could use more detail though.

[Heathen]

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5866/vraygitemplatesa0.png
Left is smoothed. Right is un-smoothed.

too tall. Proportions are off.

[ICEE]

Wow looks nice nugget.. No complaint from me

[Heathen]

samesies.

[Advancebo]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/pd.png

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/pdwire.png
Polygons: 285
Triangles: 606

[ICEE]

So do you just never finish things Advancebo?

[ExAm]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/pd.png

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/pdwire.png
Polygons: 285
Triangles: 606Hey, I made me one o' thems a while ago too!:

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture048.png

[Pooky]

Bleh, Halo 3 equipment.

The designs of the things make no fucking sense at all. Who makes these things, and why do they have no stylistic resemblance to either army?

I mean seriously, the Power Drainer looks like some kind of ornate Forerunner globe.

[ICEE]

Thats a good point. Only the grav lift and active camo have a definite origin. I wonder, is the bubbleshield UNSC or covenant? the trip mine seems to be UNSC but it has a forerunner-ish design.

[Sever]

The Power Drainer, Radar Jammer and Flare are Brute (notice the grip-bands wrapped around the handles, as seen on other Brute weapons), the Gravity Lift and Deployable Cover are classic Covenant, and the Tripmine is Human. The Auto-Turret is obviously Forerunner, and the two other campaign-only devices (Invincibility and Cloaking) are some form of Covenant apparatuses. I'm guessing that the Bubble Shield and Regenerator are both Covenant as well, due to their usage of shielding, but they both could be Human as well, due to their visual characteristics and the fact that the UNSC coppied and researched Covenant shield technology.

[Heathen]

^

I think the bubble shield is forerunner.

[Geo]

Bleh, Halo 3 equipment.

The designs of the things make no fucking sense at all. Who makes these things, and why do they have no stylistic resemblance to either army?

I mean seriously, the Power Drainer looks like some kind of ornate Forerunner globe.


What you mean you don't think a shiny glowing ball with a odd placed handle that always rolls away from where you throw it isn't a very smart military like idea? Well.... Me neither.

[Con]

the fact that it rolls is key. The ones you want to stay with you like the bubble shield and the regen have legs for a reason.

[ICEE]

But if you really want this thing far away from you, one would think it would come with a launcher of some kind.

One meaning me
Think meaning wish
and come meaning someone please model this concept.

[Mass]

The Power Drainer, Radar Jammer and Flare are Brute (notice the grip-bands wrapped around the handles, as seen on other Brute weapons), the Gravity Lift and Deployable Cover are classic Covenant, and the Tripmine is Human. The Auto-Turret is obviously Forerunner, and the two other campaign-only devices (Invincibility and Cloaking) are some form of Covenant apparatuses. I'm guessing that the Bubble Shield and Regenerator are both Covenant as well, due to their usage of shielding, but they both could be Human as well, due to their visual characteristics and the fact that the UNSC coppied and researched Covenant shield technology.
the bubble shield and regenerator are both Brute, FYI.

[ICEE]

I think its safe to call them covenant rather than brute. If I remember right the brutes are significantly lower than humans on the technological ladder.

[Sever]

Yeah, the Bubble and Regen are obviously not Brute technology. They are Covenant, but not Brute - the Brutes just kept them after the schism

[ExAm]

Pen 'n Ink
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/1020082033.jpg
The assignment was to take a few images from a magazine and slap them into an art piece. The two guys are from a boat building scene (though I changed what they were doing), the lighthouse was from a diagram, and the houses down below were from an overhead view of a field.

Protip: I suck at proportions.

[FluffyDucky™]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/Beamriflefinalmb.jpg
Hi.

Omg looks like super advanced hair straigthener! ME WANTS NOW! :mad: GIMMIEEEEEEEEEEE, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Advancebo]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/bs.png
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/bswire.png

Polygons: 475
Triangles: 938

[Reaper Man]

Nice work Exam, I can't draw for shit with pens D:

[Heathen]

Top has to spin Advancebo. Dont forget.

[Advancebo]

Top has to spin Advancebo. Dont forget.

yah, i detached it from the main part
btw, the main body is just a bunch of extrudes and bevels

[Pooky]

Yeah, the Bubble and Regen are obviously not Brute technology. They are Covenant, but not Brute - the Brutes just kept them after the schism

Neither of them look like anything Covenant to me. :S

[rossmum]

I strongly doubt they are, that's why. They're either Brute (they might be dumb but they can probably reverse-engineer as well) or Forerunner.

[Pooky]

Hey guys I found some sacred artifacts of our gods laying around these ruins. Let's toss them at random into gunfights!

I guess that could make sense for the Brutes, but would never be done by Elites. Which would sort of explain their abrupt appearance in Halo 3.

[rossmum]

The Brutes seem to care more about their beloved 'Great Journey' than the actual Forerunner themselves (and by extension their stuff), whereas the rest of the Covenant tiptoe around shit to avoid breaking it. They're pretty much just there for the winnings, really, so that does sound entirely likely.

[Hunter]

@Exam: Wait... What is the guy about to hit? The man... or the bacon and eggs?

[ExAm]

@Exam: Wait... What is the guy about to hit? The man... or the bacon and eggs?That's a cucumber. The guy in front of him isn't even in axe range...

[ExAm]

I strongly doubt they are, that's why. They're either Brute (they might be dumb but they can probably reverse-engineer as well) or Forerunner.They're brute, most likely constructed by Engineers, like the Chopper was.

[Pooky]

They're brute, most likely constructed by Engineers, like the Chopper was.

Question: If Engineers can make shields that are impervious to all weaponry while still allowing freedom of movement, why wouldn't they be on vehicles? Or even infantry?

I don't buy the 'they're Brute' theory.

Besides, the Covenant are supposed to use existing technology, not make it. Since technological advancement is heresy.

[ExAm]

Question: If Engineers can make shields that are impervious to all weaponry while still allowing freedom of movement, why wouldn't they be on vehicles? Or even infantry?

I don't buy the 'they're Brute' theory.

Besides, the Covenant are supposed to use existing technology, not make it. Since technological advancement is heresy.*sigh*
Read the damned books.

[Pooky]

*sigh*
Read the damned books.

Not if they were the last books on Earth.

[Hunter]

That's a cucumber. The guy in front of him isn't even in axe range...
I know it probably wasn't Bacon and Eggs.. I just like them :D

What is he actually swinging at though?

P.S. It does look good. Very Good.

[ICEE]

Question: If Engineers can make shields that are impervious to all weaponry while still allowing freedom of movement, why wouldn't they be on vehicles? Or even infantry?

I don't buy the 'they're Brute' theory.

Besides, the Covenant are supposed to use existing technology, not make it. Since technological advancement is heresy.

Did you pull that out of your ass? If technological advancement was heresy, wouldn't the engineers be shishkabobs?

[ExAm]

I know it probably wasn't Bacon and Eggs.. I just like them :D

What is he actually swinging at though?

P.S. It does look good. Very Good....The damned cucumber

[Hunter]

Sarryy Lol.

[Dwood]

Sarryy Lol.

Hunter your sig is killing the joke get some textures on those nao

[Geo]

...The damned cucumber

Isn't an axe a little bit overkill for a cucumber?

[Heathen]

Um...how is it even questionable that the Bubbleshield is Forerunner?

[ICEE]

I don't see how any of it could be forerunner, unless someone found massive stockpiles of it in a giant forerunner closet or something, and they were miraculously unharmed by time, though activating them for 30 seconds causes them to explode.

[Corndogman]

I say they're forerunner, and the covenant just made more of them exactly the same, keeping the same design.

[Heathen]

I don't see how any of it could be forerunner, unless someone found massive stockpiles of it in a giant forerunner closet or something, and they were miraculously unharmed by time, though activating them for 30 seconds causes them to explode.

How about "its a game and not everything has to fit the canon. Its for balance and gameplay." How bout that?

[Pooky]

Did you pull that out of your ass? If technological advancement was heresy, wouldn't the engineers be shishkabobs?

I recall reading in one of those trashy books that Cortana was easily able to convert Covenant plasma weapons into a vastly more effective form, and the only reason the Covenant hadn't done so was because it was considered heresy to alter their lord's creations.

[DaneO'Roo]

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9730/thecloseshaveey8.jpg
Rough idea concept.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/702/thecloseshave2xz8.jpg
More polished design.

yes I did it for the lulz

[Advancebo]

carpenters dream machine

[killer9856]

carpenters dream machineAnd mine :3

[Heathen]

Zombie's nightmare.

[Con]

How about "its a game and not everything has to fit the canon. Its for balance and gameplay." How bout that?
You do realize bungie made this game right?

[Heathen]

Yes. What does that have to do with it still being a game and not always having to make sense with the story line. Canon might not have been the right word.

It doesn't always have to fit into the story seamlessly. Maybe its just because it makes it fun.

[Con]

If there's one thing I've learned from Halo, it's that Bungie never does things "just because". I think you underestimate the amount of design and thought behind the game objects.

[ICEE]

I was just contributing to the conversation heathen. With that attitude we just shouldn't question ANYTHING they do.

[ExAm]

Isn't an axe a little bit overkill for a cucumber?
You're missing the point :v:

[NuggetWarmer]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/seagull.jpg
Randomness.

144 tris.

EDIT: Made a quick skin and I rigged it.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/GulFinal.jpg

[Pooky]

legs and feet?

[Tweek]

have you ever actually SEEN a bird?

[Evil_Monkey]

It looks like the low poly bird used in Halo 3.

[Hunter]

*Cool pic*
Rough idea concept.
*Cool pic*
More polished design.

yes I did it for the lulz

Does it cut the grass at the same time? :D

[NuggetWarmer]

It looks like the low poly bird used in Halo 3.

That's what it is. I really didn't spend much time on it since it's not looked at very much.

[rossmum]

Someone should do a decently detailed, ragdolled Golden Eagle. Always wanted one for GMod :|

oh, and current side-project renders on way

e/ hi

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/60m.jpg

[SnaFuBAR]

low poly panzerfaust eh? should make a high poly to go with it and bake normals. should be easy, it is just a series of cylindrical and conical objects.

[rossmum]

I should. I should also add a few more sides to the grenade itself so it looks decent in FP :F

[Heathen]

You're more likely than me to be right cons.

[k4is3rxkh40s]

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3607/acczb4.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3605/wireou1.jpg
Don't know where exactly I'm gonna use this, just modeling it for fun right now. Supposed to be lightly based on the robots from RF Online. Errors/smoothing/missing pieces, etc. C&C on where its going so far?

[MMFSdjw]

Still lacks a lot of detail but I'd love to know what yall think.
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/30/120/41113111/n41113111_35021809_5268.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/30/120/41113111/n41113111_35021810_5571.jpg

[ExAm]

The reloading mechanism for my launcher. Needs some work, methinks.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture247.png
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture248.png

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture249.png
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture250.png

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture251.png
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture252.png

[Rob Oplawar]

wowzers. ExAm, pullin out all the stops.

[ExAm]

moar
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture253.png
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture254.png
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/Picture255.png

[rossmum]

That's looking pretty awesome

e/

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/60m2.jpg
smoothing on sight makes me want to kill things

[Hunter]

*facepalm* ExAm has won yet another competition...

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Woooooooooooooo!!!
I made...
..
.

........
..
This!
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Firebomb.jpg
Its a cylinder of fire! WoOOOooO

[nick3d]

Ayup creeping up his arse agen are we hunter ;)
only joking mate

E:
why is it that, exam has to completely destroy the other competitors, all the bloody time :(
lol

[Hunter]

i c wa u did der...

[nick3d]

i c wa u did der...

Whats that in english? :confused2:

[rossmum]

Getting there

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/60m3.jpg

[Advancebo]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/fire_nade1.jpg

Wah, everyones doing it

[ExAm]

*facepalm* ExAm has won yet another Protip: I HAVE NOT EVER WON ONE OF THESE COMPETITIONS. Now shut up, please.

[Disaster]

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/render_start.png
Starting on a female character. I think there's something wrong with the face but I just can't place my finger on it. Help would be appreciated.

[Snowy]

model the boobs then we'll talk.


ok, her forehead/head seems too round.

[Disaster]

model the boobs then we'll talk.


ok, her forehead/head seems too round.
Maybe thats why. I justt finished the breasts :D

[ICEE]

Can't really look at the face very well with the wires. Could you also post a non wireframe render?

[rossmum]

Starting on a female character. I think there's something wrong with the face but I just can't place my finger on it. Help would be appreciated.
Is that who I think it is?

[Disaster]

Is that who I think it is?
is it? :P

[rossmum]

If it is, you're doing a lot of work you don't need to as far as the body is concerned

[Disaster]

If it is, you're doing a lot of work you don't need to as far as the body is concerned
I know. I'm using her for something else as well. And for future references.

also
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/character_2nd.png

[rossmum]

Alright, now I know what to crit :p

I think the proportions are off on her face, perhaps not against usual anatomical refs but compared to who she's supposed to resemble her face seems too narrow and the distances between the various parts are off. I've just played around with that render and the closest match for angle I could find and it does seem a bit off, I'll send you some more pics to work off. I could be wrong and it could be the angle/lack of hair throwing me, but it never hurt to be sure.

Also, try avoid anything too muscly... she shouldn't look like an athlete, but nor should she look like she's been to McDonald's every day of the week. Try find the middle ground, something that would fit a fairly young and fit person but not one who goes out of their way to look the part.

Uploading shit, expect a PM soon

[Hunter]

:P
Looks very natural and good. :D


Edit: Needs more nipplish

[Rob Oplawar]

her face looks too masculine. The proportions seem human to me; they just seem male. I can't think of the proper adjustments off the top of my head, but I'm sure if you google it you can find the differences between male and female facial proportions.

[rossmum]

Check your inbox, disaster

[Disaster]

K thanks.

[rossmum]

If you need refs to supplement my horrible descriptions body-wise I suppose I could always force myself to find refs for that too :downs:

[Evil_Monkey]

Looking good Disaster, IMO the forehead looks a little large though.

[Heathen]

The way the nose is turned down a bit makes her look more manly. Try giving her a more feminine face.

[Chainsy]

Practicing my speed painting, time this took was 10 minutes, was just getting in some base style for a character design I was thinking about.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/basecharacterpractice2.png

[Gwunty]

You modeled the tits wrong disaster.

[Advancebo]

Practicing my speed painting, time this took was 10 minutes, was just getting in some base style for a character design I was thinking about.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/basecharacterpractice2.png

Looks like a Native American.

Also Im not an artist, so whats with the color splotches on the right?

[Disaster]

You modeled the tits wrong disaster.
They aren't going to be seen.

[Advancebo]

They aren't going to be seen.

should be :B

[Chainsy]

Looks like a Native American.

Also I'm not an artist, so whats with the color splotches on the right?
Base colors, what I used to create the tones on the man there, you pick out a certain set depending on what color or age you want him/her and blend them to create what you want. Detailed areas like cheeks, forehead and center nose tend to be render then other areas, while on men the jaw area tends to be a grey steel or chrome color blended for an aftershave. Then the other colors are just natural ones.

[Corndogman]

Looks like a Native American.

Also Im not an artist, so whats with the color splotches on the right?

I'm guessing so he can go back and pick the same color he was using before after he changed the color he was using.

[Geo]

I'm guessing so he can go back and pick the same color he was using before after he changed the color he was using.

You sir, are correct. Its like a painters paint palette thing. That little odd shaped, wood paint holder.

[Chainsy]

Except all I have to do is use a dropper tool to get the color back. :3

[Advancebo]

Except all I have to do is use a dropper tool to get the color back. :3

you could have saved them into swatches pallete

[ExAm]

you could have saved them into swatches pallete
You can do that? Holy crap!

[Chainsy]

I like it better having them on the canvas so I can mix them quickly and so I can constantly view each one at once while painting at the same time, I just find it quicker.Also, elite base mouth practice:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elitebase3.png

[Advancebo]

Nice, except no tongue

[Chainsy]

Elites do not have tongues from what I have seen.

[NuggetWarmer]

AUG! The colors are wrong tbh. The elite is supposed to have dark black/brown skin, with a dark red + maroon mouth. There's also way too many teeth being shown than there should be at that angle.

[Geo]

Mabye he wanted an albino elite? Hmhm?

[Chainsy]

I am making race colors of grayish white, brown, black, redish, and blueish.
The coloring for the grey one I based off the small lizards that live around my area. Also I raised the gums to show off the teeth more on the upper jaw.

[Chainsy]

Well I am back, and have been working on redoing the night of the covenant as I promised, and have decided to show that I have the cliffs done. All I have to do is paint in the lake and sky and elite and it will be ready.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/nightofthecovenantrevamped.png

[Chainsy]

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/nightofthecovenantredone.png

[Con]

You've got different techniques clashing in that piece. In the water it looks like you used a filter or a brush that makes that pattern, but everywhere else (except the stars) is sketched. They don't mix nicely. Parts of your image are blurry and hand drawn, others stand out and ruin the good parts. I'm also having a hard time seeing shape. Though you generally did a good job shading, the perspective is confusing and it's hard to tell the difference between one plane and another.

[Chainsy]

I always have trouble with ice, but I wanted the ice to stand out, as in smooth ice bright ice versus jagged rock. Also I am aware of the distance of planes issue and am working on that, can you be more specific on what parts need to be less sharp or less blurry?

[Con]

that really depends on your style. I like to keep things detailed, but it takes much longer.

I dunno if you remember this drawing of mine:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3011/ruinsxp1.jpg

You can see I got bored of it and stopped, and i never achieved the detail I wanted consistently through the image. The foreground is nice, but the background was rushed I think. I also didn't spend enough time on laying out the pic, I just started drawing once and this was what I ended up with.

[Heathen]

I like it but I am having a hard time figuring out the angle....its too obscure.

[Rob Oplawar]

stop being such a good photoshop artist, con. you're making me feel inadequate.
e: have you seen this comic (http://www.blastwavecomic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=1) before? that's what that picture reminds me of. i can't remember precisely where I found that comic- it's quite possible that you or someone else from modacity first introduced me to it. :P
ee: oh yeah, now I remember, somebody posted a panel of it in the random funny pictures thread.

[Con]

yeah it was inspired by blast wave, I was reading through a bunch at the time.

[Heathen]

Reminds me of tankmen. (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/322150)
http://www.screenhead.com/images/2006/07/tankguys46546465.JPG

[Apoc4lypse]

XD never seen this blastwave stuff before, looks like something I'd spend hours reading lol...

Also bak to what con said, I usually tend to draw my backgrounds better than I do my foregrounds.. lol

E: I like the styles from this blastwave comic, and I'm, reading the info on it apparently its all just taken widely off of apocalyptic styled games and movies. Some of this stuff would make a cool mod/game. e1.5: sounds like he doesnt like the idea of people expanding on it tho..

[ExAm]

Pastel stuff
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/1027082055.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsxV49pmnL8

[Corndogman]

I'll be completely honest here, the thing underneath looks like a face with feces spewing from the mouth.

Other than that, It looks great!

[ExAm]

Supposed to be a mask with a beard or a trunk I guess.

[Roostervier]

Supposed to be a mask with a beard or a trunk I guess.
This is what I saw it as at first. Thanks for fucking it up, Corndog. >:|




D:

[Geo]

I saw the shit too :\ My mind is kafuxed

[Con]

yeah, I saw it that way too. gg internet

[ExAm]

yeah, I saw it that way too. gg internetI haven't actually watched 2g1c yet :awesome:

[beele]

I'm trying to make nice renders these days.

Just something I'm making (a Bacardi glass). Not yet entirely finished, but I'm getting there. I'm still tweaking a lot of settings, one of them being the text on the glass that states Bacardi (it's black while I've set it to be white :s)

http://www.beeles-place.be/halo2mppics/nr/glas3.jpg

[Pooky]

I'll be completely honest here, the thing underneath looks like a face with feces spewing from the mouth.

Other than that, It looks great!

:lmao:

[ExAm]

:lmao:You shut your whore mouth >:U

[DaneO'Roo]

The bump effect and the sticker is cool, but tbh my whole class has made better glass material in blender.

Cmon man this is max, use that shit.

[beele]

The bump effect and the sticker is cool, but tbh my whole class has made better glass material in blender.

Cmon man this is max, use that shit.

I'm still trying to get it to look :awesome:, but it already takes 45 min to render that, maybe I'll try on a lower resolution

[DEElekgolo]

Use Vray.

[Reaper Man]

I haven't actually watched 2g1c yet :awesome:
Me neither :awesome:

[beele]

Use Vray.

I am using vray.

[DEElekgolo]

I am using vray.
Learn how to use it. Ill be glad to tell you how. I made a template for WIP renders you may use. http://deelekgolo.deviantart.com/art/Vray-GI-Template-99926790

[Advancebo]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/wraith_types.png
Back Wraiths: Halo CE
Front Wraiths: Halo 2
Middle Back/Front: Standard
Middle: Darker Blue Standard
Left: Anti Vehicle Green
Right: Anti Air Red
Modeling new cannons for the Anti Vehicle and the Anti Air Wraiths.
Soon to be Open Sauced

[teh lag]

Oh cool, you can use the selection and hue/saturation tools in PS! Bravo!

I especially like the sloppiness of forgetting about the metal that's supposed to remain dull blue/gray.

[Disaster]

Oh cool, you can use the selection and hue/saturation tools in PS! Bravo!
^ At least make new skins for them instead of changing colors...

[Advancebo]

actuall i switched channels

[teh lag]

actuall i switched channels

...


:suicide:


At least put some effort into making a decent product.

[Advancebo]

i will modify the textures, maybe retexture after i finish modeling new cannons

[Chainsy]

Starting on H3MT's elite, any suggestions will be nice, planning on using a detail map for metal.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/elitechestwip.png

[Advancebo]

i really dont think h3mt doenst want an elite not halo 3?

[Invader Veex]

Too much plating. And it really isn't giving me the "Halo/Covenant" feel.

[Chainsy]

Then how did I get the model and unwrap? Directed at advancebo.

[legionaire45]

Texturing makes it look more like some kind of gray harlequin fetus than an elite.

Make a higher polygon version, bake out some bumps and use that to help give your texture more detail. Right now it looks really flat, ugly and boring.

[Chainsy]

Not my model, it is going into CE, so no bumps, so I can not truly make it unflat unless nugget redoes the model. I will bake when I have the lines done, and I am keeping it a neutral grey since it s a biped for obvious reasons, instead of skinning it red, white, green, blue, purple, orange, ect. Grime and stuff will be added with a detail map.

[rossmum]

It's too overdone. There are lines everywhere and it's distracting, not to mention it doesn't really look all that Covenant - and grime really does not strike me as something you'd see on an Elite's armour.

[Chainsy]

Chipped paint?

[ICEE]

D: chains it looks really flat. Also, if this is h3mt's elite, shouldn't the elite look like halo 3's elite? Don't put so much detail in one place, it distracts the eye, and frankly, it looks like the elite used a torch to burn a maze design into his helmet. I'm expecting to see a mouse running around in there somewhere looking for the cheese. I can appreciate the attempt at detailing, and maybe it does look good on the unwrap, but really the details your adding are things that should be modeled in, not skinned on. Elites usually keep it clean , so the grime and chipped paint you added don't really fit. A few light burns or scratches might look ok, but this doesn't really look right to me.


E: also don't forget your promises!

[Chainsy]

Fine, screw it.

[FRain]

puSFSx10sMk

Model, Rig, and Sounds aren't mine, but I wanted to animate something that WASN'T Halo, and I found these things. Crit, comments are welcome. Also, some parts are snappy and have been fixed.

[rossmum]

Chipped paint?
These aren't humans. They're Elites. They are a race of fiercly proud warriors with longstanding traditions and and an overly stuffy, vain bearing. I strongly doubt you would find their armour in anything less than immaculate condition, with the exception of battle damage which would be repaired immediately after the cessation of hostilities.


Fine, screw it.
Not the attitude to take, sonny.

e/ mag tap looks more like a grip tap, might want to do something about that

[rossmum]

Shameless bump

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/ma5bflat.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/arskin3.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/arskin4.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/arskin5.jpg
Working with this thing is a pain, the way the skin stretches in some places and just plain doesn't show in others pisses me off. In the end the only real advantage of redoing the entire receiver and upper heatshield was being able to say I did the bastard myself. :|

[Tweek]

Fine, screw it.

jesus fuckign christ, what kind of a little girl are you, you fucking crybaby.
boohoo, they is not say nice things!

go sit in a corner and cry yourself into a fucking dehydration ffs.

[Chainsy]

Hmmm? You do not understand, I decided to ditch it to give it to someone who knew better. I am not a very good skinner, and I am not going to stubbornly do it when people say its wrong. I am not giving it up, I just need to learn a bit more before trying at it, and since I will not change overnight, it will keep the owner of this elite waiting, when someone else could skin it just as good, maybe even better. Sorry if it came off in the wrong form to you, but I am more laid back and when it doesn't work out, I either restart or just toss it out, not cry myself to hydration and never touch an unwrap again, sorry if you misunderstood.

[FRain]

Hmmm? You do not understand, I decided to ditch it to give it to someone who knew better. I am not a very good skinner, and I am not going to stubbornly do it when people say its wrong. I am not giving it up, I just need to learn a bit more before trying at it, and since I will not change overnight, it will keep the owner of this elite waiting, when someone else could skin it just as good, maybe even better. Sorry if it came off in the wrong form to you, but I am more laid back and when it doesn't work out, I either restart or just toss it out, not cry myself to hydration and never touch an unwrap again, sorry if you misunderstood.
Wow. You must not understand what criticism is. You cannot be babied through this. Take that fucking crit and use it. People actually give EFFORT to tell you what is wrong, and instead you trash it. I know, because I used to do that, but did you see that my work got about 25% better after I actually took the criticism?

[Disaster]

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/carbine_yeah.png?t=1225640518
Carbine skin by me. Model by nugget.

[FRain]

That's hot, but it might just be the lighting. Pic of just the diffuse please.

[Disaster]

That's hot, but it might just be the lighting. Pic of just the diffuse please.
its not the lighting, theres just 1 omni, Its the spec and normals.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/carbine_diffuse.jpg
Just the diffuse and nothing else.

[Heathen]

I dont like it. Its just too uniform with the purple. Hard to explain atm.

[FRain]

Metal is never 1 solid flat color. There should be some lighter variants, and darker variants of scratches and detail. It just shouldn't be 3 colors on your skin.

[Disaster]

http://www.bungie.net/images/News/WeeklyUpdate/carbine.jpg
Its all same colors with a few variation just like my skin. The variation is all done in specular maps btw.

[FRain]

Don't do that. Put the variation into the diffuse map, even if just a little.

[Disaster]

There is. You just can't see it because of the bad render. Let met get a better one.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/carbine2.png
And thank you doan for the normal maps (he got all pissy because i didn't say anything :|)

[HDoan]

Normal by Doan.

[FRain]

wat?

[ICEE]

puSFSx10sMk

Model, Rig, and Sounds aren't mine, but I wanted to animate something that WASN'T Halo, and I found these things. Crit, comments are welcome. Also, some parts are snappy and have been fixed.

the hand movements when he goes back to grab the grip don't look very natural to be honest. it looks a little too flowy. When he pulls the magazine out, it doesn't really look forceful, and there could be a bit more time between mag out and mag in. I like the animation overall though. Where did you get the rig?




its not the lighting, theres just 1 omni, Its the spec and normals.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/carbine_diffuse.jpg
Just the diffuse and nothing else.

It looks pretty bland to be honest. Without the specular and normals it looks a bit stretched and boring. You could put a bit more detail into the diffuse at least. Also, unwrap on the handle looks very bad, along with the circular holes in the back of the gun. It looks lazily unwrapped overall.

[rossmum]

Don't do what the big devs are doing these days. They're all getting excessively lazy and putting no effort in, relying on normals, spec, and God knows what else to make things look good. If you look at some of the diffuses that end up in games these days, they're more or less just flat coloured. It might be easier and some people might actually think it looks better, but it's a bad habit to get into because if you do need to rely on the diffuse alone later on, you're fucked.

[Hunter]

Silenced BR
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/silenced_br_2.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/silenced_br_4.jpghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/silenced_br_5.jpg

Shit renders are shit, un-realistic silencer un-realistic because its basicly a metal tube and silencers are not made like that.

[killer9856]

Your battle rifles always makes me happy

[ICEE]

How come no view from the other side hunter? You even mirrored the scope-less BR to avoid showing it.

[Advancebo]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/ehrjefa.jpg

[Hunter]

I mirrored that it in the last picture because that picture wasn't meant to look like the BR was duel wielded. It saved me rendering two pictures each with the other sight on.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/silenced_br_6.jpg

[Advancebo]

I mirrored that it in the last picture because that picture wasn't meant to look like the BR was duel wielded. It saved me rendering two pictures each with the other sight on.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/silenced_br_6.jpg

Lol i wish

[Disaster]

Don't do what the big devs are doing these days. They're all getting excessively lazy and putting no effort in, relying on normals, spec, and God knows what else to make things look good. If you look at some of the diffuses that end up in games these days, they're more or less just flat coloured. It might be easier and some people might actually think it looks better, but it's a bad habit to get into because if you do need to rely on the diffuse alone later on, you're fucked.
I made them so they can be baked into the diffuse. The spec and normal won't go into CE. Also, I didn't unwrap it, I'm not sure who did.

E: Also, Advancebo, Your Barrel makes me unhappy
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/barrel_render.png

[Advancebo]

I made them so they can be baked into the diffuse. The spec and normal won't go into CE. Also, I didn't unwrap it, I'm not sure who did.

E: Also, Advancebo, Your Barrel makes me unhappy
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/barrel_render.png

its my first unwrapped texture :/

[Disaster]

Its to low res for an object like a barrel.

[HDoan]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/ehrjefa.jpg
Your screenshots textures disgust me

[Heathen]

Those sst's are bad.

[Advancebo]

I used screenshots as a base

[Heathen]

I think you mean as a barrel.

[Disaster]

Seriously. All you did was screenshot a texture and put it on a cylinder...

[HDoan]

You didn't even unwrap the white rings to the rings you modeled on.

[Advancebo]

actually i unwrapped, then i placed the screenshot then edited.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

It doesn't matter what you did or didn't do, it looks terrible.

[Chainsy]

I still feel something is missing on the front part of the helmet, may make some indents. Also, I need to make the honeycomb pattern less noticeable.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/newhelmettype.png

[Advancebo]

Looks way better :D

But I thought the honeycomb pattern was only on the elites grey rubber-like parts to allow movement at joints?

[Chainsy]

It is on the rubber parts, and not on the metal, but I decided to give the metal less noticeable ones, sort of like the vehicles.

[DaneO'Roo]

I made them so they can be baked into the diffuse. The spec and normal won't go into CE. Also, I didn't unwrap it, I'm not sure who did.

E: Also, Advancebo, Your Barrel makes me unhappy
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii256/echo216/barrel_render.png

I find it ironic that your barrel is also shit. I'm going to take a stab here and say where the seams meet up, its mirrored, isn't it. The "streaks" look terrible, the sticker looks slapped on, theres no real detail, it's just grunged red and erased on a layer above what looks like flat grey. No rust, no decay streaks or peeling paint, where your rings are, the detail makes no sense at all, you have a sort of gaussian amount of wear and tear which also makes no sense. It's quite obvious you slapped on a grunge brush or something to get your details, because it doesn't look how it should. A better job could be done within 20 minutes.

[Rentafence]

Looks good to me

[Chainsy]

No crit for me?

[DaneO'Roo]

Looks good to me

Besides the fact that it looks chalky, undetailed, monotoned, the so called paint looks more like concrete, the streaks look like bad paint strokes rather than streaks, and doesn't actually look like a barrel?



And chains, I don't think you wanna hear my crit. Besides I'd just be repeating myself.

http://fc50.deviantart.com/fs33/i/2008/307/9/f/Halo_Elites_by_dano555666.jpg

Use mine or bungies as a ref if you have to, i'll send you a dam jpg of my textures, just fucking fix what your doing, because your details aren't covie at all, and they look like a sketch. Stop using your mouse or tablet to do those details, because your drawing skills aren't up to the job. Use the pen and line tools.

Also, do each layer of height on a seperate layer. Deep parts, blacks, bottom layer, whites and absolute highest points, top layer. Anythign else inbetween. The selection tools are probably the most useful things in photoshop tbh.

[Chainsy]

Ok, thanks, also the reason it looks like a sketch is because the scale for the head on the unwrap requires me to use a 1 pixel brush to make those seams, those seams on the helmet are literally 1 pixel in width on the unwrap.

[NuggetWarmer]

*achoo*
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/CMTArmor.jpg

[Advancebo]

Mark V Armor FTW

also is the coloring from the UV map or is it the omnis?

[NuggetWarmer]

Omnis.

[Con]

Dane, people appreciate the crit but can you refrain from calling it shit? That's unnecessary and untrue. His barrel isn't bad and it's definitely not shit.

[Advancebo]

Its better than my shiz

[FRain]

the hand movements when he goes back to grab the grip don't look very natural to be honest. it looks a little too flowy. When he pulls the magazine out, it doesn't really look forceful, and there could be a bit more time between mag out and mag in. I like the animation overall though. Where did you get the rig?

Oh, sorry, didn't see this post. Thanks for the crit, and I just kinda searched around on fpsbanana.com for rigs, and models, and that kind of stuff.

[rossmum]

Did a little work, still need to get the fucking highlight on the upper heatshield lined up... thing is a pig to do. Will begin on the stock once that's done, I think.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/ma5bflat2.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/arskin6.jpg

[SnaFuBAR]

Don't do what the big devs are doing these days. They're all getting excessively lazy and putting no effort in, relying on normals, spec, and God knows what else to make things look good. If you look at some of the diffuses that end up in games these days, they're more or less just flat coloured. It might be easier and some people might actually think it looks better, but it's a bad habit to get into because if you do need to rely on the diffuse alone later on, you're fucked.
just.... no.

[Tweek]

dude.. the diffuse is SUPPOSED to be nothing but flat colour, that's what the fucking thing IS FOR!

[rossmum]

It depends on how well the engine handles lighting, and exactly how plain the diffuse is. If the engine has brilliant lighting then yeah, leaving that up to normals, specs, etc. is fine but to call out an example, I refer you to the HL2 Ep 2 sniper and autogun. Both (so far as I can tell) rely heavily on the engine for lighting and detail, and honestly both look too much like plastic. Even though painted lighting doesn't always match the environment, I'd rather have that than matching lighting which looks like shit and kills all the detail. The other thing though is when people literally make it almost a flat colour with no differentiation at all, fancy advanced lighting or not you need some variation on the diffuse.

On another note,

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/arskin10.jpg
Tweaked according to Snaf's crits over AIM, looks a lot more pre-loved now

[Con]

Why do you have so many scratches where those segments join and not on the top where they should be? You're also going to add some detail to the part behind the ejection port right? The top would look good as a lighter colour too btw, not to make it look too much like the H3 AR but just to break up the monotony of it right now.

[DaneO'Roo]

Because bungies original AR uvws are fucked, thats why. The top is stretched like a 12 year old at a gang rape.

[rossmum]

:lmao:

But yeah, pretty much what Dane said. I'll probably add some detail to the arse end later on before I start on the stock and grips, been at it all morning and then playing Halo all evening. I need a bit of a rest.

[FRain]

Because bungies original AR uvws are fucked, thats why. The top is stretched like a 12 year old at a gang rape.
ROFL, Sig'd.

[Con]

Because bungies original AR uvws are fucked, thats why. The top is stretched like a 12 year old at a gang rape.
It's not stopping him from doing the back two segments.

[rossmum]

no, but consistency is

e/ if you mean the heatshield. the rear receiver will get scratched up too, don't worry

[rossmum]

shameless bump

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm258/rossmumv2/structures.jpg

;o

[SnaFuBAR]

not bad tbh

[Geo]

I like the bottom base alot. The back of it looks kinda like a coffee travel mug with a weird lid :P

[rossmum]

I'll probably draw up some more later. One of the things which always draws me back to Halo is the stunning beauty of the Forerunner environments, and while I've been meaning to make a map for some time I kept giving up because I didn't have any real objective. I still haven't got a set-in-stone ground plan, but I definitely know what I'm aiming for now, and I want to get this done.

I was having trouble capturing the 'feel' of Forerunner architecture, but then I threw the Halo 3 OST on and it all became clear :-3

[Gwunty]

Must...model. ill brb

[Chainsy]

Quick design I drew in 5 minutes of an infantry elite, wanted your opinion on the design and where I should go with it.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/1chains1/infantryeliteprototype1copy.png

[rossmum]

That helmet looks like it belongs on someone rather high up the chain, really

[Chainsy]

Maybe zealot?

[rossmum]

Yeah, or High Council member

[Chainsy]

Well I have high council and chancellor designs being worked on, so I will probably go with zealot.

[ExAm]

Aren't the zealots supposed to have big headdresses?

[Con]

Aren't the zealots supposed to have big headdresses?
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Zealot

[Sever]

Aren't the zealots supposed to have big headdresses?No, but Honor Guards (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Sangheili_Honor_Guardsman) are.

[ExAm]

The silver elites with the large headdresses aren't honor guards, though. What are they?

E: Councelors.

[Advancebo]

Silver are Ultra, if they look like the red honor guards, there called Ultra Honor Guard or something like that

[ExAm]

Silver are Ultra, if they look like the red honor guards, there called Ultra Honor Guard or something like thatNo. Ultras =/= Elites with large headdresses.

[Advancebo]

Ma first texture
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/cust_barrel.jpg

yah yah it sucks, to much sponge i thing

[teh lag]

Ma first texture
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/cust_barrel.jpg

yah yah it sucks, to much sponge i thing

Can you at least try to type properly?

Also, if you know it sucks, why post it...?

[Disaster]

I barfed D:

Looks like somebody wiped diarrhea all over the fucking barrel.

[Heathen]

^this

[Invader Veex]

Experimenting with bump, specular, and illumination maps. I have never used any of them before.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5066/renderao0.jpg

I made this design a while back, so it's not anything great.
And I stole the background color scheme. You know who you are.

[Sever]

Looks cool. I don't know a damn thing about the in-game quality of it, but I find it visually pleasing. A few of the tight parallel edges could be spaced a bit more, though.

[BobtheGreatII]

In before Dane's crit...


I like it though... looks good.

[Heathen]

looks neat.

[ExAm]

Passable for a low budget old-engine game.

[legionaire45]

Back at it again. Completely new model.
http://morgancabral.com/media/content/shinyrender.png
http://morgancabral.com/media/content/prettyrender.png
http://morgancabral.com/media/content/wutwut.jpg
I'm using another person's model as reference for the thumbstock part of it since my old one had loads of smoothing errors. This one is finally nice and clean and pretty. I actually intend to finish this one (Ross, please don't murder me D:).

BTW, that smooth part was a BITCH.

[Hunter]

[quote=Advancebo;320685]Ma first texture
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/cust_barrel.jpg



Looks way better than the screencapped one. Just work on variation and make it look realistic :D

[rossmum]

The only time you use that much sponge is when you're making galvanised surfaces. Lose the contrast on that layer and work in some (credible) grunge and damage. Don't use blobs of solid white, make full use of blending options, layering, and brushes as well as selection and brightness/contrast. Damage should be grey or silver, never pure white. And for Christ's sake, do something about the lighting. Unless this is meant to be next gen and you're going to add normals and such in later, it needs shadows and highlights.

[DaneO'Roo]

Experimenting with bump, specular, and illumination maps. I have never used any of them before.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5066/renderao0.jpg

I made this design a while back, so it's not anything great.
And I stole the background color scheme. You know who you are.


I know who I am :P

Also, the basic pattern flow is decent, but if it's intended to be forerunner, it's not really getting there at all. The bump and soft spec is pretty nice though.

http://fc72.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/310/d/e/Large_forerunner_floor_plate_by_dano555666.jpg

Add more interest on the shapes and also just as importantly, in between the cracks,