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Mr Buckshot
April 19th, 2008, 03:46 PM
I've known that AI couldn't sync online in the first Halo engine, and so far it doesn't seem to have any success in the Halo 2 engine. No AI online = no co-op online.

But then I started playing Halo 2 again and I noticed that a few things that couldn't sync in the 1st Halo (switches and the bottom-right score meters and the train in Terminal) managed to sync here. So...AI mb?

As the editing kit gradually becomes unlocked, I've been contemplating. Would there really be a way to get AI to sync online in Halo 2? If so, that would unlock the possibility of cooperative maps, though a safer start would be to have maps with bots first.

I'm not a programmer, so I don't know anything about the coding in either version of the Blam engine, but I do know that the second-generation Blam engine is more advanced, so I'm just wondering.

Syuusuke
April 19th, 2008, 04:01 PM
Assuming major things didn't change in Halo 2 Xbox, syncing AI could be possible in H2V because there have been some maps with AI in it. And I think there was an Outskirts multiplayer.

ultama121
April 19th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Actually, you can play the entire Halo 2 Xbox campaign online over system link with any tunneling program. They've managed to actually ENTIRE campaign maps, scripts and all. (BTW these are the actual maps themselves, not converted BSPs) Links:

http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=74514 (http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=74514) (Old Mombassa with a nice skin)
http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=74515 (An app that can convert any map with a button click)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3vM5zetKk (Video of Halo 2 Coop online)

Syuusuke
April 19th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Oh the entire campaign now?

That's cool...now WHAT ABOUT H2V?! =/

ultama121
April 19th, 2008, 08:51 PM
Er... I'm not sure, you'd think that if it worked for the Xbox version, it'd work for the PC version.
Edit: The guy who discovered how to do this, just swapped a few reflexives, do you think that would be possible for H2V?

Kibito87
April 20th, 2008, 04:18 PM
I've known that AI couldn't sync online in the first Halo engine,

As a matter of fact...they do.

Masterz1337
April 20th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Not on PC.

Zeph
April 20th, 2008, 04:22 PM
As a matter of fact...they do.
No, they dont.

Patrickssj6
April 20th, 2008, 04:35 PM
As a matter of fact...they do.
Go back to Halomaps (or wherever you came from; I don't even want to know tbqh) and learn what "syncing" in real terms means. ;)

Vicky
April 20th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Wasn't that big rotating thing on Zanzibar for CE synced in some crazy laggy way?

Lightning
April 20th, 2008, 05:40 PM
We smashed bipeds. :V

Also, AI syncs on Xbox's Halo 1 via network.

Masterz1337
April 20th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Go back to Halomaps (or wherever you came from; I don't even want to know tbqh) and learn what "syncing" in real terms means. ;)


We smashed bipeds. :V

Also, AI syncs on Xbox's Halo 1 via network.
Someone got told. Kibito is a pretty well known xbox modder, you should know who you talk to before you decide to bash them.

Pooky
April 20th, 2008, 08:05 PM
Someone got told. Kibito is a pretty well known xbox modder, you should know who you talk to before you decide to bash them.
^

I expect better from you patrick :(

Kornman00
April 21st, 2008, 05:35 AM
We smashed bipeds. :V

Also, AI syncs on Xbox's Halo 1 via network.
thanks to how the machines started off with the same conditions and inputs, but I've never seen sufficent research into how far the sync'ing goes to prove that it's "flawless" like halo 3

Patrickssj6
April 21st, 2008, 12:05 PM
Someone got told. Kibito is a pretty well known xbox modder, you should know who you talk to before you decide to bash them.

I don't care how much fame someone has. I don't care if I talk to you or someone new to this forum with just 1 post and negative reputation.

"As a matter of fact...they do."

Go more in depth? It doesn't sync on H1PC...definition for syncing is sending the specific memory blocks to the client and back. "Smashing Bipeds" is hardly what you call syncing. I didn't know about network syncing on H1X and I guess sorry for that, but next time please be more precise. I hate those short answers similar to Veegie's ones where you pretend to know something others don't.


^

I expect better from you patrick :(

Oh you did? Sorry to virtually disappoint you.

Masterz1337
April 21st, 2008, 04:54 PM
He did say the first halo engine, that doesn't really mean PC. REgardless, it is a bit vauge, but you shouldn't mouth off to a "newbie", just because they are "new"

Pooky
April 21st, 2008, 04:56 PM
Oh you did? Sorry to virtually disappoint you.

No you're not. You've been being a virtual annoying troll lately though.

Mr Buckshot
April 21st, 2008, 08:31 PM
Well, in a way, Halo PC maps did sort of manage to "sync" AI online. But the AI's movements are completely unable to keep up with the server action, as are MANY, MANY features. For example, look at the gate on Zanzibar. Often, players experience the effect of being able to walk through the solid gate, because the gate has opened but hasn't synced with the server. Same thing goes for the windmill - at times it can be seen to be completely stationary.

On the other hand, these cool features are able to keep up with server action in H2V.