Will we ever get good map making tools like halo custom editions?

I wonder if we will ever have as great mapping tools as Halo CE. I really would love to be able to make new scenery weapons vehicles ect. Will microsoft ever release or "unlock" the full version? Will Kornman00 ever finish the tag extractor and be able to make a Full good version of the mapping kit for H2V?

We would be able to make even greater maps if they gave us the full mapping kit in the first place :/ ! Why didn't they make one like halo CE's in the first place!?


Can someone please answer these questions.

-Flames

Welcome to September 2007.

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Originally Posted by Flames

I wonder if we will ever have as great mapping tools as Halo CE. I really would love to be able to make new scenery weapons vehicles ect. Will microsoft ever release or "unlock" the full version? Will Kornman00 ever finish the tag extractor and be able to make a Full good version of the mapping kit for H2V?

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Whoa, slow down there.

Community-made tools rely on the community. Last I knew, Halo 2 Vista's community is pretty weak; there aren't a lot of people out there who are willing and eager to make time to work on tools for a game they see as dead on arrival.

Not to be mean, but if you'd REALLY like to see these tools released, research map cache file structure and tag file structure and get on it yourself. In addition for not wanting to work with a game they see as dead, making tools upon request for a "dead" game is something the community would want to do less.

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Originally Posted by Flames

Why didn't they make one like halo CE's in the first place!?

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Microsoft made the fatal mistake of trying to cater the tools to the "average user" when they should have made them for the "general developer." That, and it's pretty much a given that they didn't want people making maps and mods that would unlock achievements online easier than the normal gameplay (they might as well remove the Friends list from LIVE with that logic), plus they didn't want any copyright infringing content on their service (more bullshit; WE host the servers. LIVE only connects players to other players here.)

Their are more people playing Z_sanctuary_pb2 than people playing Sanctuary in Halo 2 Vista. That is why no one is developing for halo 2 vista. No one is playing it.

Last I remember Jahrain created that tool to actually make a render model. If he got that to work, what about Kornman's Hek? Could they work together.

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Originally Posted by KiDD

Last I remember Jahrain created that tool to actually make a render model. If he got that to work, what about Kornman's Hek? Could they work together.

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No, Jahrain is gone now. His last post was back in August, and the post before that one was back in March.

Did he ever tell anyone how the tool worked, could anyone replicate it?

If you mean the gbx-model-upgrader, yeah that works.. readme was included so you can make render-models. Korns guerilla can't open those tags though.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

If you mean the gbx-model-upgrader, yeah that works.. readme was included so you can make render-models. Korns guerilla can't open those tags though.

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He meant the process that Jahrain went though to turn the gbxmodel into a render model. He wanted to know if Jahrain told anyone about that.

Damnit, why the hell did they ruin this game.

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Originally Posted by KiDD

Damnit, why the hell did they ruin this game.

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The Game is dying to me. Halo 3 for PC would satisfy me.:party: