Halo: Reach Discussion

God, the shotgun in Halo 3 was just terrible.
It took about 2 hits to kill someone at close range.
Even against The Flood and they've always been about a 1 hit kill at close range.

And on top of that the H3 shotgun looked retarded.

Artistic liberties to tell the story they came up with :/. I mean, come on, it's a game. Look at some of the explosions and effects used in Hollywood movies. It can be no different there.

Neither medium are true reality and thus no one should hold them to any such standards such as reality.

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

Don't mean to get offtopic, but Just Cause 2 seems to acknowledge that 40-50 yards. The damn AI EATS my fucking health with shotguns, even when far away. Makes me want to cry

Also, if they wanted they could just as easily write off saying that some kind of round was used which gives it more instant UMPH! but at the sacrifice of range. That and they said that in previous games (or was it just Halo2 or 3?) the projectiles sometimes went outside the reticule? Something which DOESN'T happen in Reach.

In the end: artistic liberties.

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This.

What I was saying was just that I felt like the shotgun in Halo 3 had no merits. It was bad at medium range, and almost equally bad at point-blank. I just hope whatever they do in Halo: Reach, it maintains a useful position in the weapons lineup instead of being completely cast to the wayside in favour of the Hammer and the Sword. Because bullets are cooler. :D

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Originally Posted by Pooky

What I think is funny is how the weapons technology steadily moves backwards as the series progresses. On the human side for example, there's the shotgun. In Halo 1, it could 1 shot people at a considerable range. In Halo 2 the 1 shot kill range was toned down quite a bit, but you could still 2 shot people from a good distance. In Halo 3, the shotgun can 2 shot people from 3 inches away and 1 shot them if you're shoving it down their throat.

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you obviously know nothing about shotguns in videogames. They realized how stupid it was to have a shotgun be able to 2 shot people from a good distance, so they toned it down for balance.


I mean shit, they have nukes in halo's story, but you don't use them in the game because that would be boring. I too prefer the halo 2 shotgun over the nerfed one. I was just defending a developers opinion. I was insisting that gameplay is better than realism. Realistically, a charged plasma pistol would fuck you up something horrible, and that would be boring.

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Originally Posted by Heathen

you obviously know nothing about shotguns in videogames. They realized how stupid it was to have a shotgun be able to 2 shot people from a good distance, so they toned it down for balance.


I mean shit, they have nukes in halo's story, but you don't use them in the game because that would be boring. I too prefer the halo 2 shotgun over the nerfed one. I was just defending a developers opinion. I was insisting that gameplay is better than realism. Realistically, a charged plasma pistol would fuck you up something horrible, and that would be boring.

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Yeah shotguns being useful is totally stupid, every weapon should be helpless against the BR from 5 feet away good idea

p.s. way to get mad over rep

so the focus rifle...thoughts on that?

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Originally Posted by sevlag

so the focus rifle...thoughts on that?

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It looks awesome.
It's a battle sniper.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

Yeah shotguns being useful is totally stupid, every weapon should be helpless against the BR from 5 feet away good idea

p.s. way to get mad over rep

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PROTIP: Armor Lock

To the kids arguig about Halo 2 vs Halo 3 shotgun. Halo 2 was host dependent, good connection or host gave you incredible shotgun ability and Halo 3 is server side so everyone can use it the same way.