OpenSauce SDK for Halo CE 1.08

Why the hell shouldn't kornman "open the doors"? Because we're all retards who don't know how to code? Because you're speshul for knowing how the engine works and you fear that if other people know stuff, you won't be so speshul? It's true that there are virtually no Win32 programmers in the CE community, but that isn't a reason to withhold resources from the general community.

It may be a waste of time, but if you knew anything about CE's history, you would know that the information pool has grown since CE's release, where all we had was a single tutorial on how to create a collision BSP and import it into the game. And guess who filled the pool? Everyone. If it weren't for people exploring and adding their knowledge and resources to the general collective, CE would have gone belly-up quicker than Halo 2 for Windows Vista.

I'm not saying that you need to tell us everything you need to know right now, but that you shouldn't be criticizing someone on releasing potentially valuable tools and information because the community is incapable or because knowing this information somehow makes you special.

PS: Snaf's post was correct, thank you very much. Plz2b fucking you're saelf.

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Originally Posted by Eluveitie

Seems like Korn and me have to commit suicide then. You shouldn't talk about a subject you don't know anything about. And no, don't even compare this to 3d modeling.

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I don't need to know jack shit about something to know you're being an immature crybaby prick. No, no dyslexia, it was an inside joke that is used around here. Nice attempt. BTW, your reading comprehension is lacking if you can't tell I was suggesting you off yourself because of your uptight attitude. Just because you've been working at something for years doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to other people developing something. So like i said, kill yourself, or answer why he shouldn't open the doors for others. Your years of work and selfishness is not applicable.

Not applicable to Karnmon00 unless you plead and plead and possibly pleasure him.

Thanks for visiting again Patrick.

This has absolutely nothing todo with "crybaby" or me losing status. I had never had any problems sharing my knowledge with other people...Korn was always the one keeping everything in the dark. He was the one having all the knowledge for 3 years and he didn't share it and now that it's basically dead he releases something...but I don't blame him...I can understand him.

There is a difference between giving out a source code or sharing knowledge. Grenadic showed us the map file structure and didn't release a source code so we could have 5 versions of HMT.

This source code only extends knowledge to just a few people so don't pretend that this is something useful for the community if only 3 people can really even read it.

I don't really care but you guys are always the ones starting to cry about any type of Bots...well here are your "doors" to it.

@p0lar
Don't talk about CE's histroy. I was there back then when you registered.

@Snaf
Don't call me selffish as I have shared my knowledge more openly than Korn. I don't care about your little forum inside jokes...if you people don't have a real social life I don't care if you shat bricks or fucked you're self.

just b/c you think there are only 3 ppl in this "coumminty" doesn't mean there is. There are lurkers, passer-bys, academics and potentials who may use the source as a starting ground for what is a new science to them. Don't think so relative. The knowledge is never for anyone to give out unless from the original creator(s). I didn't make the engine and neither did you.

Eluve why do you even care? Anyways, Korn, I'm taking a look at Open Sauce in-depth for once. It seems Open Sauce doesn't play with MS VS C++ 2008 very well but hey it opened right up. ^_^. If I have problems playing with it I'm going straight here. Also, what areas do you recommend to look at first? I did main.cpp but I can't decide where to go from there.

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

just b/c you think there are only 3 ppl in this "coumminty" doesn't mean there is. There are lurkers, passer-bys, academics and potentials who may use the source as a starting ground for what is a new science to them. Don't think so relative. The knowledge is never for anyone to give out unless from the original creator(s). I didn't make the engine and neither did you.

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Im with KM on this one.

he's done so much for the community already, and all to lend us a hand.
it would of been easier for him to not bother and leave this community rot but because of him where still here.
Modacity exists and so does it's little community.

He's already proven his worth time and time again, and where yet to see you come up with anything for us, so why should we listen to you.

E: alias's for the loose.

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Originally Posted by Dwood

Also, what areas do you recommend to look at first? I did main.cpp but I can't decide where to go from there.

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main.cpp has all the component initialization references, just trace the call graph for each component (ie, Console or GameState) to see whats being done behind the scenes.

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

Sorry, have to use my iPod for replying still. Not the best foruming method

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Use your iPod to read my PM about the Delaggonator. :embarrassed:

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Originally Posted by Eluveitie

HURPDEE DURP DEE DURR

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Your still a selfish faggot. :caruso: