PSA: Me

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Originally Posted by Bodzilla

When was the last time we actually had a growing user base, enough to warrent a hard stance on posting behaviour, because the site had potential to grow and expand?

We dont need to intervene with threads that people are arguing in, we dont need to tone everything down because there is no goal, no end point for us to go in.

we're slowly dieing a littler bit everyday, acknowledge it for what it is, so just loosen up and have fun and let the site run it's course.

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I'm not on any side here since I don't even really know what this is about, but in a general sense, pointing out the small size of the user base is a weak argument for less/no moderation, in my opinion. For one, is there any evidence that letting people tear into each other with no moderation is good for the user base? For all you know, such things could be detrimental to the user base. Sure, the people who behave in such a way enjoy the leeway. What about other people, though?

who honestly takes modacity as a serious website anymore.

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Originally Posted by Bodzilla

who honestly takes modacity as a serious website anymore.

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I did, and that's why I was promoted to moderator.

It's a losing battle though, when the site has more pro-anarchy members than people actually looking to do something productive/serious.

i was in your same shoes 3 years ago, but the websites evolved and changed to what it is now.
we dont need to be content producing pioneers... theres just no demand for it.

i'd rather we just had a bit more fun.

Had a chat to KM about it
Zizenstein: how we going brotoss
Zizenstein: was just asking for your opinion on the whole freenlancer vs the mob thing
kornman00: meh, at least n00b got unbanned
Zizenstein: do you agree with me that the website at this stage is pretty much dead in the water, adn the best thing we can do is just sit back and have a bit of silly fun
Zizenstein: or do you still see it as a viable thing to be invested in.
kornman00: i think, as the site stands, it has no direction and thus no purpose/reason to have some hardcore rules other than ones that keep the site from getting raided
kornman00: unless they had plans to do something with the site, there's no reason to be hard asses with users
kornman00: if the site slips into trololoing, there's no going back, so if they were going to do something with the site they wouldn't want that
kornman00: but they're not, the site is just there
kornman00: it's one giant user lounge
Zizenstein: so you believe it's just the nostalgia
Zizenstein: ?
kornman00: well, yeah, i guess you could say, that and it's just an established community
kornman00: there's not going to be a mass migration or anything, so it's a hub for people who know each other
Zizenstein: my thoughts exactly
Zizenstein: mind if i post this
Zizenstein: or do you wanna stay outta it?
kornman00: i'm fine, go for it
Zizenstein: coolio, you just explained my position a littel more clearly then i did.
Zizenstein: thanks
Zizenstein: <3

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Originally Posted by Cortexian

I did, and that's why I was promoted to moderator.

It's a losing battle though, when the site has more pro-anarchy members than people actually looking to do something productive/serious.

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I was doing something productive but various people decided to moan like cats in heat so I decided to ditch modacity as a platform for updates on my projects and go to the developer endorsed website for my updates.
It's not that people aren't being productive, it's that they're not productive here because the website doesn't give enough incentives when the official websites have more opportunities than fan ones like this.

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Originally Posted by jcap

(And what I mean by "stupid opinions" is not to infer that I disagree with your opinions...it's the whole "my opinion is right and therefore you are wrong" stupid shit.)

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I'm just going to point out that nobody was doing this in the Ace of Spades thread besides Freelancer. None of us said 'we are right therefore you are wrong'. We comprehensively proved him wrong, so he deleted the whole conversation and tried to pretend it never happened.

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Originally Posted by Cortexian

You guys would rather invent things that "I said" that fit my "stereotype" instead of taking 10 seconds to understand the meaning behind what I say. I usually don't go into every fine little fucking detail when I'm talking about something when it seems that the underlying meaning is EXTREMELY FUCKING OBVIOUS.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

I feel your pain there, bro. I type something, people read two words in the opening sentence, and then start a raging reply. Fucking. What.

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No fucking shit, now you guys know how I felt.

But really, I'm with Zilla on this one. I just don't see the overzealous moderating as helping anything. If there was some conscious attempt to restore order to the conversation then maybe. But silently deleting any posts that you don't like just provokes anger.

So who got banned?

I rarely read threads on here any more, I pop on to make sure no one has died and take a look at a few threads but in reality I hit that Mark Forums Read button a lot.

I come back to the site because I don't follow any other forums/communities.

The problem with this site is its userbase. It's really like Jcap says; too incendiary and over-staunch with opinions. I'm easily to blame as well, but at least I'm nicer about deferring other's opinions, unless I'm defending my argument from other posters who in turn post in an aggressive manner. I really like how Jcap put it though, that everyone keeps adding gas to a fire in an argument. Basically, someone starts the campfire, but no one puts it out, thus causing a massive forest fire. In addition, this site's userbase consistently utilizes the "I'm on the internet, so why the fuck should I care what people have to say? I'm anonymous." which is a shitty, shitty way to proceed in any argument. This site isn't going places because people don't care enough for it to because a.) anyone putting in cruddy quality at first is utterly berated and gangraped by a sadistic community, b.) this community is immature in how it presents its argument and is biased towards generally one-sided every thread (IE, anti-American or Liberal) regarding politics or debatable ideas, c.) this community is based off of traditional backwash instead of the change like it always proclaims.

Now, I would suggest methods of improving this, but then I'd probably be told to fuck myself or I'd be ignored or people would simply do what they do to Lancer and say it's just me posting. Either way, I'll take the same road the rest of this site takes and not suggest what you could do right to fix anything wrong because its current state simply is ugly. That's basically what this site is: an grudging, ugly man that refuses to take any advice because he's ugly.

And I don't mean everyone when I say this community. The people I'm talking about are the same people that are mentioned over and over again when this site reaches a shitfest. Sorry for lashing out at anyone, but I'm sick of some attitudes on this forum.

This website hasn't claimed change for a long time.
It's filled with "has been's" who have done what they've set out to do and now just want to sit back and relax.
the website was originally for Halo 2 vista and we all know how that went down.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

This website hasn't claimed change for a long time.
It's filled with "has been's" who have done what they've set out to do and now just want to sit back and relax.
the website was originally for Halo 2 vista and we all know how that went down.

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And that cannot be shifted to something new?