The $800 billion dollar Stimulus Bill

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Originally Posted by kid908

just because it great jobs doesn't mean it's dept free. the only ones who benefit from war are high profile bank owners. as we need money to go to war which we need to barrow from the federal bank with interest, which create more dept.

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Do you know how total wars are funded?

Bonds. Lots and lots of bonds. Sure, now they owe money to the people, but with activity back home, we can now generate it. Rob's plan, applied to a real-world scenario with less abbreviated activities, would actually be a good plan if it could be set up without being detected (which is admittedly unlikely). How did America become the dominant power in the first place? Reconstructions after World Wars I and II. We didn't have to set those up, but we need another similar setup now, and there isn't one (so make one! =D).

In similar line of thought, if Africa were reliable about paying back debts, we'd have a banking gold mine there, but you can't expect to collect when the government you lent out money to three weeks earlier is gone and replaced by a new one saying the terms of the loan are void.

"Why should I have to pay for someone else's mistake BY FORCE? Really, I'll help the less fortunate or downed when I want to, but when I'm forced to pay for funds that go to other people's problems..."
^This is the question that is being toiled with now. I'm agreeing with it because my family works hard and is getting along enough to where we can barely pay our bills. The stimulus plan is bared on the middle class, which if it continues with more and more then we'll end up being the victims of the economic stage too. The money Obama is giving to people is so insufficient and nearly useless compared to what we'll have to pay in the future if this continues. That's what I've gathered from the news, my parents (who are intelligent individuals in this matter), and just plain common sense.

I don't like this economy, but instead of forcing people to pay for others' needs in their taxes, you should rally up support and keep some of these huge ass businesses from taking fucking vacations.

I see what Obama is trying to do though, so who can blame him, yet I'm not sure if it's the option for the moment. It's almost socialist, just not to an extreme (thankfully).

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Originally Posted by legionaire45

...welp, war did help us out of The Great Depression anyway...

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where already in the war on Trevor :v:

I agree with the just random giving out of cash to people who didnt earn it. Now schools budgets are being cut because of this. The schools need newer technology to function with everyday life, but this random giving out of cash just makes people more lazy and drop out. They figure, if they act innocent enough, they will get a big check from the government. So.. Everything else is alright with me, just not this.

a 300 dollar stimulus check isn't going to encourage anyone to be a dropout.

Minors don't even get a check do they? And any College student knows how valuable 300$ is.

you don't get a check unless you paid taxes.

And with the shit pay most students make, I doubt anyone is going to drop out RobertGraham

Okay, sorry geez, do we have to go on offense about this? MASTERS...

I think this is the one time today I wasn't trying to be offensive actually.