The $800 billion dollar Stimulus Bill

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Originally Posted by Masterz1337

I think this is the one time today I wasn't trying to be offensive actually.

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Masterz1337

Banned

vOv could've fooled me.

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Originally Posted by legionaire45

Something tells me that fighting a new war won't have that effect because businesses are completely different now. However, if effort was put into something else on a similar scale, then things would be much better for the US. Things that pop into my mind; Finding alternative sources of energy, cleaning up our vehicles, etc. Too bad the US is only interested in nationalizing banks and making half-hearted attempts at making our cars appealing to anyone.

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I agree. The only reason that World War II ended the depression is because it allowed FDR to spend the kind of money he had always wanted to without futile attempts to balance the budget constantly. Republicans had to choose between their militarism and their all-curing free-market silliness, a conflict of hurrs you might say. World War II made expansive government spending unavoidable.
If people got their heads out of their asses and realized that a balanced budget isn't going to be feasible when an ass-backwards financial system has made the government the only remaining viable generator of economic demand and would just let the money start flowing in realistic quantities to some half-useful causes we could slow unemployment and decline while trying to fix a number of social and infrastructural problems in the process.

WWII only helped us out of the Great Depression because we didn't fight in it till later. We recovered our economy by selling Military Hardware to European and Asian Countries that were fighting Japan and Germany. That is what got us out of the Depression, not us actually fighting the war.

Us starting a war would only make things worse.

Also Graham, there is $50Billion in the stimulus that is going to go to schools.

Sure, us manufacturing arms for other countries helped the US out, but so did manufacturing arms for ourselves. The bottom line is that it created jobs, not that the US got money from it. With people earning money, they spent more, and thus the economy pulled itself up. WWII would have helped the US out regardless of its entry date.

Woot, Just got a raise. Fuck you recession,

Nice bump.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

Sure, us manufacturing arms for other countries helped the US out, but so did manufacturing arms for ourselves. The bottom line is that it created jobs, not that the US got money from it. With people earning money, they spent more, and thus the economy pulled itself up. WWII would have helped the US out regardless of its entry date.

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I know a guy who makes 350,000 US a year for welding Patriot missiles. And I know that the guys who work at gun factories make around 50,000 US a year. The fact is that guns are a definite business enterprise. After all, the invention that allows us to dominate every species on the face of this planet is in very high demand all over the world. The US government should shut down all of its money-sucking air force programs and focus on our infantry and firearm manufacturing. Put some goddamn M-16s in peoples hands so they can defend themselves from all da crazies all over the world. But tahts just my opinion.
By the way, the majority of the money in the stimulus goes to small businesses. And buying out corporations isn't a bad thing; we did it in the 30's to very much success.

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Originally Posted by Phopojijo

Nice bump.

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It's semi-legit :)

Lol, masters got banned.

Old news bub...