Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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January 31st, 2009, 11:02 AM
xExus

Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

I was thinking about about a remake of the Halo 3 map The Pit for H2V. I think it would be a great map for Halo 2.

I remember Conscars was doing a remake of Valhalla a long time ago... so is it possible to do this? That would just be awesome.

:)
January 31st, 2009, 11:13 AM
Syuusuke

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

Just don't abandon it =P
January 31st, 2009, 12:05 PM
Con

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

Halo 3 content with the h2ek is the problem, but the map should play well enough on h2 with some balancing...
January 31st, 2009, 03:01 PM
Pyong Kawaguchi

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

It can have h3-like gameplay, but new models/textures is another story, I did figure out how to replace textures a while ago in custom mp maps.
January 31st, 2009, 08:39 PM
DarkHalo003

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

I'd ask Penguin or Polar about this, mainly because they are working on the CE port. Perhaps you could get something going with that?
January 31st, 2009, 08:56 PM
Disaster

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003

I'd ask Penguin or Polar about this, mainly because they are working on the CE port. Perhaps you could get something going with that?

I didn't know polar was working on it? Thought it was Zteam and peng?
January 31st, 2009, 08:57 PM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by disaster

I didn't know polar was working on it? Thought it was Zteam and peng?

It is, he's mistaken.
January 31st, 2009, 09:17 PM
DarkHalo003

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

It is, he's mistaken.

Sorry, I saw Polar often in that thread and did get him mixed up. But, yeah, mainly ask Zteam or Penguin if you want to try to get a port to H2V. Not sure how successful it would be though.
February 1st, 2009, 12:36 AM
PenGuin1362

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

Yeah, me and Zteam are working on a h2v port of the pit, our priority is CE, than once we finsih that it's h2v
February 1st, 2009, 05:14 AM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by PenGuin1362

Yeah, me and Zteam are working on a h2v port of the pit, our priority is CE, than once we finsih that it's h2v

That's fucking awesome. Any guess when it's gonna be done?
February 1st, 2009, 09:15 AM
Syuusuke

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

When they're sexually satisfied with CE's contents.

Hey, you could try the Lockout-lookalike, Blackout? I think.
February 1st, 2009, 11:01 AM
leorimolo

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

I could probably get you the retail halo 3 textures for the pit, letme ask my friend if I can rip them first.
February 1st, 2009, 11:14 AM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

I could probably get you the retail halo 3 textures for the pit, letme ask my friend if I can rip them first.

Screencaps? Don't bother, we can manage.
February 1st, 2009, 11:37 AM
leorimolo

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

Screencaps? Don't bother, we can manage.

No.
February 1st, 2009, 11:39 AM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

No.

From who then? No one's publicly cracked the compression scheme and the only way people are extracting textures nowadays are with screen caps on dev kits.
February 1st, 2009, 11:41 AM
leorimolo

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

From who then? No one's publicly cracked the compression scheme and the only way people are extracting textures nowadays are with screen caps on dev kits.

We place the Texture on our hud, then you take a picture with the devkit tools. Its a perfect rip
February 1st, 2009, 11:42 AM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

We place the Texture on our hud, then you take a picture with the devkit tools. Its a perfect rip

That's what i mean. Screen caps. It's far from perfect, and again we can manage.
February 1st, 2009, 11:45 AM
leorimolo

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

That's what i mean. Screen caps. It's far from perfect, and again we can manage.

Chocking I'm honestly fed up with you thinking you know everything. Its a fucking perfect rip, it will get you far better than any other thing that exists right now. Explain to me how does it differ from extracting the texture directly from the raw.
February 1st, 2009, 11:47 AM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

Chocking I'm honestly fed up with you thinking you know everything. Its a fucking perfect rip, it will get you far better than any other thing that exists right now. Explain to me how does it differ from extracting the texture directly from the raw.

The alpha channels screw up the texture, there's some quality loss, bump maps can't extract, and the list goes on. Trust me on this, I know more about it than I can even tell you.

Also, are you dense? ITS SPELLED CHOKING
February 1st, 2009, 11:51 AM
Masterz1337

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

Just quit it Leo. You have no idea who you're talking to.
February 1st, 2009, 11:55 AM
leorimolo

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

The alpha channels screw up the texture, there's some quality loss, bump maps can't extract, and the list goes on. Trust me on this, I know more about it than I can even tell you.

Also, are you dense? ITS SPELLED CHOKING

"xl DeToX lx (11:54:14 AM): bump maps yes
xl DeToX lx (11:54:17 AM): alpha maps maybe"

There you go.
February 1st, 2009, 12:00 PM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

"xl DeToX lx (11:54:14 AM): bump maps yes
xl DeToX lx (11:54:17 AM): alpha maps maybe"

There you go.

I don't get it, is he agreeing with me? I've talked to detox and darkshallfall, dark complains about the alpha's blending with the base rgb channels therefore editing the base map to look different. Jpeg compression is the source of the quality loss. Normal Maps don't show correctly when screen capped on the hud.

I'd post examples of these, but I'm not one to leak content that isn't supposed to be public.
February 1st, 2009, 12:03 PM
leorimolo

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

I don't get it, is he agreeing with me? I've talked to detox and darkshallfall, dark complains about the alpha's blending with the base rgb channels therefore editing the base map to look different. Jpeg compression is the source of the quality loss. Normal Maps don't show correctly when screen capped on the hud.

Ok. Thanks atleast this time you gave me a concise answer. Anyways as far as compression goes they're not really in Jpeg more like PNG, but I'm guessing it still looses some quality.
February 1st, 2009, 12:06 PM
Choking Victim

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

Ok. Thanks atleast this time you gave me a concise answer. Anyways as far as compression goes they're not really in Jpeg more like PNG, but I'm guessing it still looses some quality.

I didn't give you a concise answer earlier because supposedly you knew more than me on the subject, so i assumed you knew what i was talking about without me spelling it out for you. The jpeg compression I was talking about was in the screenshot extractor tools, like this one: http://www.halomods.com/forums/viewt...?f=112&t=69911

I forget the one I used that saved them as jpegs.
February 1st, 2009, 01:59 PM
CtrlAltDestroy

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by leorimolo

We place the Texture on our hud, then you take a picture with the devkit tools. Its a perfect rip

We've attempted going this route a long time ago. Honestly, they just ended up looking like shit.

Besides, we really don't need extracted textures for this project anyways.
February 1st, 2009, 02:59 PM
PenGuin1362

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

There's no reason for any of this discussion anyway. Con has already finished all but 1 texture I need for the map...
February 3rd, 2009, 09:46 AM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by PenGuin1362

There's no reason for any of this discussion anyway. Con has already finished all but 1 texture I need for the map...

Wait... so it's nearly done?
February 3rd, 2009, 10:47 AM
Joshflighter

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by xExus

Wait... so it's nearly done?

Umm... He just said that he has all the textures but one. I don't think that means the map is almost done.. :o

I may be mistaken though.
February 3rd, 2009, 10:54 AM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Fear1337

Umm... He just said that he has all the textures but one. I don't think that means the map is almost done.. :o

I may be mistaken though.

Nah, I'm the one being mistaken. I just didn't realise that.
February 3rd, 2009, 11:20 AM
ShadowSpartan

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by xExus

Wait... so it's nearly done?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fear1337

Umm... He just said that he has all the textures but one. I don't think that means the map is almost done.. :o

You are correct.
February 5th, 2009, 09:13 AM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan

No.

You are correct.

You fail?

lame post bro ~con
February 5th, 2009, 09:21 AM
ShadowSpartan

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by xExus

You fail?

What? All I did was clarify that Fear was correct.
February 5th, 2009, 04:45 PM
KIWIDOGGIE

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

To end this, or to start something else.

Foundry, The Pit Beta, Sandtrap are in a working beta. all have been seen before.
February 6th, 2009, 08:32 AM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan

What? All I did was clarify that Fear was correct.

Well, I was annoyed by that extremely lame post. All you did was repeating the news and making me look like an idiot. :)
February 6th, 2009, 09:14 AM
ShadowSpartan

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by xExus

Well, I was annoyed by that extremely lame post. All you did was repeating the news and making me look like an idiot. :)

It is only "lame" in your eyes because it made you "look like an idiot"? That's really sad.

I didn't even repeat the news, I was saying that you were not correct and that Fear was correct. If you want to continue this discussion, do so through a private message.

Anyway, Conscars, I see that you were in this topic. Go finish up that last texture!
February 7th, 2009, 12:12 PM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan

It is only "lame" in your eyes because it made you "look like an idiot"? That's really sad.

I didn't even repeat the news, I was saying that you were not correct and that Fear was correct. If you want to continue this discussion, do so through a private message.

Anyway, Conscars, I see that you were in this topic. Go finish up that last texture!

1) No. Those two things weren't connected. I never said that.

2) Yes, you did. I said in a post above you that I was wrong and the one being mistaken. So it felt pretty lame when you said "You are wrong". I already got that. Your post felt and was completely unnecessary. That's why I replied "You fail?" as a joke since you didn't contribute anything to the site at all, you was like somekind of an useless echo. But besides, who the fuck cares? This is just the internet.

So I don't give a shit about this from now on. :)

k?
February 7th, 2009, 12:14 PM
Inferno

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

You better watch it brosef. Shadow is going to be :mad: at you.
February 7th, 2009, 01:21 PM
xExus

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by Inferno

You better watch it brosef. Shadow is going to be :mad: at you.

Oh whatever. I will stop posting in this thread unless something important about the map comes up.
February 7th, 2009, 01:26 PM
ShadowSpartan

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

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Originally Posted by xExus

1) No. Those two things weren't connected. I never said that.

Actually, they are connected. You called my post "lame", and you said that my post made you look like an idiot. Therefore it is logical to say that you felt my post was lame because it made you look like an idiot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xExus

2) Yes, you did. I said in a post above you that I was wrong and the one being mistaken. So it felt pretty lame when you said "You are wrong". I already got that. Your post felt and was completely unnecessary. That's why I replied "You fail?" as a joke since you didn't contribute anything to the site at all, you was like somekind of an useless echo.

You are not working on the map, therefore whatever you say can not be considered "news". I was simply clarifying that the map was not almost complete, because Fear was not 100% sure on his answer about your incorrect assumptions. So you think that setting the record straight about some misleading information is complete unnecessary? I beg to differ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inferno

You better watch it brosef. Shadow is going to be :mad: at you.

Lol. :p
February 8th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Bad Waffle

Re: Halo 2 Vista Map - The Pit?

Can everybody juuuuust step back for a second? I'm like the king of e-fighting, and from personal experience it never turns out right. Exus is just eggin' ye on, shadow.

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