[GALLERY] Newbkilla's past to present work

Ah here we are, first terrain ever attempted:)

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7947/mapjc2.jpg
2nd attempt with smoothing

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7929/fixqo5.jpg

Got photoshop, and made my own blood texture and got it Halo.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9343/bloodth9.png

Started working on a Call of Duty 2 map remake. It's called Carentan France.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6...rentan1on1.jpg

My 3rd AR remake.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9797/76131865kr7.jpg

Shuttle Pod found in Joshflighter's Sig.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6676/shuttlezf1.jpg

Forerunner structure based off of one found in "The Art of Halo 3" book.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1923/eratab.jpg

Forerunner structure made when I was sick a couple weeks ago. It's made for an SP map. Having Flood with some Covenant encounters.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7844/sofark.jpg

Tell me if I'm breaking any rules here about image sizes..

You're forerunner structures seem too fat. D:

Alright, I'll look into it, but the one from the book only showed a side view. So I kind of had to improvise the rest of the body.

Glad you came around here killa. :)

Good work, but I dont like the second last forerunner thing. :(

What about it?

This is the side view by the way.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8125/scan0004mk8.jpg

I dont think it was meant to be so wide. :o

Snaf's going to rage at you. Hell, I will too...

Forerunner structures taper towards the edge. They're not boxes, they're not just chamfered at the edges, they're tapered. If you open up any of the Halo beamtowers, or any other major Halo structure with a finlike piece, it gets narrower as it comes towards the edge and then it chamfers.

e/ You can even see the taper on that concept, so uh

That's not rage at all.. I appreciate you for speaking up and critiquing what was wrong with the forerunner.

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Snaf's going to rage at you. Hell, I will too...

Forerunner structures taper towards the edge. They're not boxes, they're not just chamfered at the edges, they're tapered. If you open up any of the Halo beamtowers, or any other major Halo structure with a finlike piece, it gets narrower as it comes towards the edge and then it chamfers.

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Actually this helps me a lot.. every once and a while i'd pump out some forerunner thing and i couldn't figure out what was wrong with it.

You can thank Snaf, I had the same problem. I could never tell just what it was that differentiated between 'Forerunner' and 'trippy triangular thing', but he pointed it out to me during a Schism discussion.

hrrrg.... oh ok ross said it already.

saved your ass! Hope to see it improve.

I'm lost for suggestions. Any help?

Joshflighter: hmm
Joshflighter: go see what modacity says
Joshflighter: lmao
Joshflighter: I dont really know
Joshflighter: :(

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1461/wutnao.jpg

if i find the time i'll go ahead and post a demo for you.

Thank you. The only tutorial I've ever watched was the Beretta 9000. Besides from that, I've just looked at forerunner and tried to make variations of it.

That would be great Snaf, I've always had trouble with the whole tapering thing, like figuring out the angles and such. I'll look into it though.

Newkilla, thanks for posting that picture. I've actually been trying to model that structure for a while now, but I didnt have a good ref. The image is a super blurry pic that someone sent to me, so this helps. Add me on xfire please: corndogman939.

:) Just let me know if you need any more.

Looks good, you have the right idea for forerunner stuff, just try to keep it making structual sense and it should be fine.

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Originally Posted by Newbkilla

I'm lost for suggestions. Any help?

Joshflighter: hmm
Joshflighter: go see what modacity says
Joshflighter: lmao
Joshflighter: I dont really know
Joshflighter: :(

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1461/wutnao.jpg

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The extrusions/gradations on the the side are gratuitous and ugly, you should use panels, lights, or any form of actual item that could theoretically serve a purpose to add detail to your wall. Please use more curves too, circles and some ninety-degree bends can really break up some of your angular monotony. That piece on the top simply does not look right, you're going to have to axe that. It's phenomenally trite for forerunner buildings to be capped with that shape. The wall is very similar to something I once did but it needs more detail or bolder shapes, perhaps some sort of device every three panels or something. The cut out shape that you have in your indentation looks funky, too.

Here is what I feel looks wrong right now:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...otos/crits.jpg

Here are some ideas for improvements:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...otos/ideas.jpg

It's not about having detail, it's about using detail.

Nice drawings :O
Definitely will look better.

Reminds me of Avalanche, especially with Mass's additions.

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Reminds me of Avalanche, especially with Mass's additions.

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Yea, uh... Was about to say this...

:p


Now, its time to see the new model newbkilla. :)

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Reminds me of Avalanche, especially with Mass's additions.

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Yeah, I see what you mean there. And also, thanks Mass :) That looks real awesome now, I'm gonna fix it up and see. Thanks again Mass.

It calls to mind your early forerunner work, Mass. I can see why you have taken such an interest, as have I.

Here's hoping Mass and the other good Forerunner modelers on this forum coach you along, Newbkilla, as I don't have the time. I'll be following your work. ;D

His work was my inspiration :) First page of the quick crit thread.

Double Post:

I did what you showed. But I still hate the top "errection" It doesn't look good at all.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5862/huhr.jpg

Looking better, but I bet there is much more crit for that. :)

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Double Post:

I did what you showed. But I still hate the top "errection" It doesn't look good at all.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5862/huhr.jpg

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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...otos/ideas.jpg


Not quite everything. It looks like Mass was going for that Guardian look with the overhang. The main overhang block looks too thick and you didn't use most of the design there. The side actually looks pretty good, but there are a couple details missing there as well.

I'd do a side comparison if I were you of the model and then the ref.

What's the green circle above the lower door?

sorry, I was drawing in paint, I meant for the top something more like this:
http://www.bungie.net/images/games/h...sketch_009.jpg
The thing in the front

I do think it looks better now, particularly the wall.

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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...otos/ideas.jpg


Not quite everything. It looks like Mass was going for that Guardian look with the overhang. The main overhang block looks too thick and you didn't use most of the design there. The side actually looks pretty good, but there are a couple details missing there as well.

I'd do a side comparison if I were you of the model and then the ref.

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I did do that, but it didn't really help.. It looked like this.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6589/sideyiv.jpg
Mass, the image you gave, looked cool at the perspective view, as being a 2d image. But in my model, it looks disgusting.

What does the model look like without the top?

You could try something saucer-like if you really need to "cap" it.

Alright, I fixed it up a little, and it looks much better than last time, though I do believe there is some room to improve. Though it still doesn't quite look like your concept.
And also, what did you mean by "What does your model look like without it?"

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2195/betters.jpg

I actually am liking it. :)

How would one fly the banshee off if there's a big pole in front of it? Also, I don't like the circles on the side walls. Make some sort of lighting there instead.

I think its just a beam of energy

Yea, it's not going to have a collision model, it's not going to be solid.

EDIT: Also, tried to spice up the erection a little.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8962/wouldthish.jpg

looking better. I have to say though, you should put something else in those circles spots. I can' think of it right now, but those aren't going to cut it.

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Also, tried to spice up the erection a little.

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Kill it, I'm not convinced it even needs it.

By the way, I meant those circles as those circle-lights from the halo 1 forerunner lights.

Alright, I'll remove the circles, and remove the erection, but I think the top will be a little plain.. I'm going to have to put some more detail up there, now that the erection is gone.

Add an inset in the areas with the circles.

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Originally Posted by Mass

Kill it, I'm not convinced it even needs it.

By the way, I meant those circles as those circle-lights from the halo 1 forerunner lights.

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Right, well I removed it just to render and show you, but it looks a bit homo to me..

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7650/homo.jpg

I like how it looks, that erection was a nuisance to look at, and how it is now leaves room for a banshee to actually fly up there without interference. Now it's looking a lot more like Epitaph than anything else, which is cool.

Excuse my lovely paint skills, but here's a concept I drew out on paper, but I drew in ps.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7...aintskills.jpg

I'm thinking off having that as the entrance to the structure, the place behind the place where I deleted the erection. If you don't understand, that's fine, I'll edit my render to show you.

E/ Hope this might help, but it's gonna be the entrance by the landing pad.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5...skillsrend.jpg

Looks like the door from Halo in Halo 3.

Looks much better now without the erection, it looks more like an impenetrable fortress than some wimpy little base now. I would suggest getting rid of those extrude>inset>intrude rectangles on the very sides of the walls, they seem like you just threw them in there so the area wouldn't be empty, not like real details.

The door seems like it would fit better in an interior hallways, but its hard to tell what it will look like from a paint drawing. I guess we'll see how it looks when you model it.

I like how its looking now.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1263/smalln.jpg

I changed the erection to a doorway.

It's looking better, but the doorway could be smaller.

Good job, I am liking it more and more. :)

Going to bed now,

I fixed up proportions of the door compared to vehicles and bipeds. I also started working on the inside of the hallway on top.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3763/bettern.jpg

Doorway looks much better. There's something about the part above it that I don't like, though I can quite put my finger on it. It just doesn't really "Flow" with the rest I guess.

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Right, well I removed it just to render and show you, but it looks a bit homo to me..

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7650/homo.jpg

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This was much better.

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This was much better.

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Not really, the doorway is better because it creates more of a barrier from getting attacked/sniped.

Started a new room for the building. This area will be the "control room". You go here to unlock some plasma shields (holding flood).

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9300/moreb.jpg

Can you put a spartan in there for scale? Because I don't know if that platform can fit a spartan.

Also, the overhang could use something to jazz it up. Right now, it looks a mite too repetitive with the same kind of fin design going on the platform and the overhang.

I could, but the chief is to scale with them, in Halo 3, Chief is about 1/2 the size of those things on the ground. As they are in the scene, but I will spice up those things on the top.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/484/56347124.png
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7408/46109929.png
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1967/11963827.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6321/46002162.png

Got this baby in game. Now I gotta fix the non planars, as well as texture it, and maybe add more to it.:dance:

Triple bump :O It's been a month, and I've done quite a few things.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7320/boxbetter.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9835/badquality.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8336/wip.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9316/wip2v.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...e2ce52144d.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...e8887ba1f8.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...f792882529.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...a71dfc7a5a.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...6fbdfe119d.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...828e921fce.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...1a015ba050.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...0d1fb42d35.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...33ddce258b.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...c71f598ce8.jpg

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...d3b538e0c8.jpg

I have yet to improve my texturing abilities :V
If anyone could help me out there. Also, on the terrain, I do see the smoothing error.

The map looks great, but the textures and I guess the lighting make it look very bland. Plus, there's no scenery - as I'm sure you're already aware.

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The map looks great, but the textures and I guess the lighting make it look very bland. Plus, there's no scenery - as I'm sure you're already aware.

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Which map? There are two separate maps. The one is the forerunner sp map, and the other is a sci-fi. The sci-fi map is the only one with 1 scenery object at the moment. I'm going to do better lighting. I must consult Dee for help though. The metal ground texture is mine on the sci-fi map there, and the ground as well as the cliff texture on the forerunner map are halo 2's.

Started this yesterday. It's about 4k triangles so far, I am going for hi-poly. I am working from a one sided ref, note there are really no other references. But since I've played the first Killzone, I sort of have the feel of the guns.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9040/killzonew.jpg

What does the actual gun look like?

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen018.jpg

I wished I still played your maps with you... Its looking awesome. I dunno bout the weapon, I think you should finish more and then post. Imo of course. :)

You better be active during the summer buddy :) Testing was always fun with you, not to mention I always raped you :D

Please tell me if I'm doing this right..

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4143/barrelsl.jpg

Model is 50 polygons.

no :S

Show me the secrets :O

The worn off paint at the top doesn't look realistic and the whole texture is really blurry and lacking interesting details.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...rel_render.png

Theres a barrel I textured about 4 months ago. I'm not really happy with it. But you can see what you need to improve on.

Seems like you just painted away at your texture on one layer and didn't try to give it any depth at all

Actually have 4 layers, but still. I forgot my radiation sticker :O

But still, I may have the process all right, or all wrong. I don't know. I did this in about 30 minutes or so. But The texture size is 768 by 768. Yours looks big, because I can see the detail, and it doesn't look distorted. I may be wrong. I would like to actually see someone texture a simple object, as the one video you showed me lagged, secondly, it was hard to follow, and he worked so fast.

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Actually have 4 layers, but still. I forgot my radiation sticker :O

But still, I may have the process all right, or all wrong. I don't know. I did this in about 30 minutes or so. But The texture size is 768 by 768. Yours looks big, because I can see the detail, and it doesn't look distorted. I may be wrong. I would like to actually see someone texture a simple object, as the one video you showed me lagged, secondly, it was hard to follow, and he worked so fast.

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Its a 1024x1024 and has a tileable detail normal thats 512x512

4 layers is not enough. I think on my average texture, i have like 50 :|

You can't use 768x768
It's not a power of 2

Actually, it works buddy. I have made textures that size many times.

But yea, having help on this would feel great. Especially when I know I'm actually doing it right.

Well you can paint on it, you just can't use it in a game engine as most game engines support textures that are only powers of 2.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7569/knifeonwood.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9...mangrenade.jpg

way too low res, and there's no reason to use that shitty wood backdrop for the props. The knife looks like plastic.

Low res wood? Or the skin?

Your skins are low res and poorly defined.

I don't see how. The grenade was already pointed out. But not the knife.

http://www.game-artist.net/forums/wo...n-grenade.html

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Well you can paint on it, you just can't use it in a game engine as most game engines support textures that are only powers of 2.

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Which is why Bungie used 768x768 in Halo 3 right? :eng101:

Alright then let me put it this way, you're making your textures too soft.A t 1024x1024 it should be a fuckton sharper than that. Your material representation is really lacking, and the damage on the handle is extremely overdone, and not even the right kind of damage. You've done metal damage on what looks like is a rubber handle, i can barely see your wireframe because you chose light gray instead of something we can see, your models are inaccurate. On the handle itself you've got WAY too much highlight (detail is washed out), no shadows and not nearly enough of the actual construction material showing.

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Which is why Bungie used 768x768 in Halo 3 right? :eng101:

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key word there was most

:eng101:

They look stony and the StHg is entirely the wrong shape. Use better refs.

Close to being finished, but the back sight is messed up. I have no idea how to do it D:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2237/shotty.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2...llishotty2.jpg

um looks fine apart from the butt of the gun seems too suddenly cut off. I do not know how to give a better description in my current state lol.

Oh almost forgot, it's a M3 Benelli Shotgun. Here's the side view.

http://www.beausrpworld.com/m3Conver...thetic12Ga.jpg

yeh you've done the textbook plane modelling technique thing where you just profile shift and drag edge in poly edit right? yeh well guaranteed a real life Benelli hasnt got a cut off butt like yours bro. Make it better :thumbsup:

Yea, I suppose I could include that intrude at the tip and I could chamfer the edges of the butt. But thanks for the support :)

hawt model.

Maybe round off the butt of it.

Stock and grip are wrong, bottom of receiver is wrong, pump is wrong, missing action bars. Keep at it and correct these things.

Not trying to be demanding or anything, but could you be more specific?

Your pump is one shape the whole way through. The real thing has many distinct regions.

Your stock is flat. The real thing is oval.

Your trigger grip is flat. It needs to extrude from oval at the bottom and then flatten out towards the bottom of the receiver BUT NOT BE TOTALLY FLAT.

The bottom of the receiver is rounded. Not flat. Fix it.

Thank you.

When it comes to the stock, remember, quads are your friend. Also if this is going into any sort of game you don't need the stock plate. or hardly any details on the stock for that matter. It won't ever be seen.

Render

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4...nderbarrel.jpg

Viewport

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1593/viewport2.jpg

With normal map

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4...lswithbump.jpg

Much better then you have before. :)

Idk what happened to the bevels on the sides of the barrel. The uwv's are messed up. I tried to fix it once, and it looked better, but it's still crappy. And also, this looks like a trashcan barrel at a park I went to yesterday, lol.

To be honest the texture you picked doesnt really help. Its very stretched.

Also look into specular textures, they help give metal that extra pop. Also put in some lights, perhaps bake on an AO, that helps add to the realism.

I tried to fix it up again.. This was taken a while ago. But anyway,

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6463/barrelupdate.jpg

I added some rust of the bottom of the barrel and top. I do have a specular map in there already. It doesn't really help considering I'm using a special shader that already gives it the "shine".

a barrel that beat up shouldn't "shine" it should have highlights in certain areas, but shouldn't have much specular to it at all.

Also, the bottom of your barrel looks more like concrete than metal. The texture overall doesn't look like it really fits the barrel because of the scratches and such that go through your rings on it. It looks like you had a barrel sitting in a park, some kids scratched the shit out of it, (but didn't dent it at all) then someone clamped those rings around it afterward.

The normal's blue channel also looks inverted or something... look at the white spots on the barrel that's laying down. it looks like they're extruding, rather than intruding. (is that a word?)