[WIP] Requiem

do u like it





wip!!!

Needs more engine and completion. Looks good so far though.

i did sum more!!





there will be something separating the two sides of the bottom floor later on!

I like the style- it's definitely Halo-esque. I can't quite figure out the layout/gameplay style, but it's certainly promising. Is this your first map? Or just the first you've posted here?

i have seen this somewhere before... a while ago on halomaps...

E: yeah, knew it.
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?...&topicID=36803
either this is Sel with a new account or somebody taking credit for his work. the post date says yesterday, but i could swear iv seen this or something very similar to it a long time ago when i used to frequent halomaps.

Maybe because it looks like Firedragons tutorial map?

idk, i just recognized the shape and color the second i saw it.

i'd like to call bullshit for 500 alex

I'm the only person who sees the phallacy?

Wow new guy this is going great we should play starcraft some time but I don't have internet atm ok well cya, have a good yif!

Wow, thats very good! Hope you dont run into too many issues when compiling!

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i have seen this somewhere before... a while ago on halomaps...

E: yeah, knew it.
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?...&topicID=36803
either this is Sel with a new account or somebody taking credit for his work. the post date says yesterday, but i could swear iv seen this or something very similar to it a long time ago when i used to frequent halomaps.

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i am the sel this is my map!

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I'm the only person who sees the phallacy?

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hot

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Wow new guy this is going great we should play starcraft some time but I don't have internet atm ok well cya, have a good yif!

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yes!

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Wow, thats very good! Hope you dont run into too many issues when compiling!

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ty :3

http://ichlugebullets.files.wordpres....gif?w=76&h=80OH NO THERE IS A WIP OF AN EXTINCTION REMAKE WITH THE SAME NAME IM USING FUCK FUCK http://ichlugebullets.files.wordpres....gif?w=76&h=80

whatever will I do

A dude on hmaps wanted some closer up picture of the interiors, so here.

When's this map going to start looking good? :downs:


But seriously, it does have a nice Halo feel. Keep up the good work.

The door texture looks oddly grungy... otherwise it's not that bad for a first map. (:

Is it going to be totally enclosed or are there going to be "outdoor" sections. It's hard to tell from the pics you posted weather you still need to do walls or what's happening.
Hope it's not going to be all grey btw!

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The door texture looks oddly grungy... otherwise it's not that bad for a first map. (:

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This is selentic btw.

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This is selentic btw.

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But he's making a good map :S

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But he's making a good map :S

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Just wait for the secret furporn room. (or unsecret?)

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Just wait for the secret furporn room. (or unsecret?)

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Yeah I can't wait.. I mean, uh... gross yeah, gross...

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Just wait for the secret furporn room. (or unsecret?)

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I think it'll be full of trainporn this time around.

naw :3

dwood had it right.

Looking good so far........

Looking good man.

You better be doing original pieces for this map, not just recycling your heavy/medic innuendo >:B

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You better be doing original pieces for this map, not just recycling your heavy/medic innuendo >:B

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do you like hat sex stories

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3332789/UnusualEvent.mp3

Finished up a bit more, got a little more to do, maybe next week or so it'll be ingame.

So I got it ingame.

Still got to deal with portals, con is down for another sky, expect some 4v4 gamenights soon.

Hell yes.

Needs a Freelancer stop posting sign.

Oh and a good sky from Con wouldn't hurt either. I'm not sure if this has really been done before to this extent or if it would be suitable to how this map was designed, but I really think giving this a space sky similar to the colorful one in Halo Reach would be awesome. This could be a Forerunner space station or satellite flying around a shield world or something, with good looking energy shields protecting the players from vacuum.

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Needs a Freelancer stop posting sign.

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This could happen.

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Oh and a good sky from Con wouldn't hurt either. I'm not sure if this has really been done before to this extent or if it would be suitable to how this map was designed, but I really think giving this a space sky similar to the colorful one in Halo Reach would be awesome. This could be a Forerunner space station or satellite flying around a shield world or something, with good looking energy shields protecting the players from vacuum.

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I haven't played reach, show me pics.

Or maybe another gas harvesting station at another gas giant?

I think it should stay near the ground if anything... not real sure about space.

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Originally Posted by NVOUS

I haven't played reach, show me pics.

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0:55 - end has some good scenes of the nebula and gas clouds apparently surrounding Reach. Stuff like that being seen where the sky is and maybe a bit of a shield world in the background would look sweet. Actually, just try and replicate this picture in the sky but with more nebulas and gas clouds floating around somewhere as well:


This station could be one of those mining station things hovering around the planet in the foreground that's being chopped up for resources.

Wow, it looks epic. I have one small thing though, and it's just me, but I don't like the upgraded scenery and devices you have set up. They should just be the original Halo assests imo.

But hey, it's your map. You shouldn't take crap from anyone else (me) if you like it the way you like it. Great work either way!

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Wow, it looks epic. I have one small thing though, and it's just me, but I don't like the upgraded scenery and devices you have set up. They should just be the original Halo assests imo.

But hey, it's your map. You shouldn't take crap from anyone else (me) if you like it the way you like it. Great work either way!

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Well, there aren't any stock halo standing teleporters, or doors that are the appropriate size for this, so not much I can do about that!

Anyway, if I can get a hold of jcap, we might have some gamenights soon (today?) on this~

ALSO

walktimes

shortest route from interior spawn

35 seconds to enemy flag

25 seconds to reach your flagstand from there

long route

45 seconds

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Originally Posted by NVOUS

Anyway, if I can get a hold of jcap, we might have some gamenights soon (today?) on this~

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You can always PM me. I have complete access to the gamenight server.

fuck pms

add my steam or aim or something

Added on Steam.

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0:55 - end has some good scenes of the nebula and gas clouds apparently surrounding Reach. Stuff like that being seen where the sky is and maybe a bit of a shield world in the background would look sweet. Actually, just try and replicate this picture in the sky but with more nebulas and gas clouds floating around somewhere as well:

who knew? freelancer is actually helpful

This station could be one of those mining station things hovering around the planet in the foreground that's being chopped up for resources.

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hey who knew? freelancer is actually helpful

Alright so here's the plan. Remove grenades on spawn. Remove Rocket reserve ammo Lower sniper reserve ammo to 4, from 8. Make it so you can't jump onto the bridge from below. Add covie boxes and shit. Make all teleporters two way. Switch OS and sniper rifle positions.

The grenades that spawn by the teleporter exits make it easy to just spam frags into the base.

Thought I saw some untextured faces in a few spots.

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Thought I saw some untextured faces in a few spots.

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That's because this was just a play test build. The graphical portion of Sels maps are usually the last thing to be completed since they're not really important.

However, add those holo-consoles around the platform under the bridge that I mentioned Sel.

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Originally Posted by Timo

The grenades that spawn by the teleporter exits make it easy to just spam frags into the base.

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Yeah, I'll move those, though with no grenades on spawn I expect that the grenade issue won't be a problem.

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Thought I saw some untextured faces in a few spots.

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Yeah, I'll get those fixed up eventually.

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

That's because this was just a play test build. The graphical portion of Sels maps are usually the last thing to be completed since they're not really important.

However, add those holo-consoles around the platform under the bridge that I mentioned Sel.

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k

could we have a beta link?

It was posted in the Gamenight 4/8 thread.

http://www.modacity.net/forums/showt...l=1#post577977

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?...6803&start=106

hahahaha this is pathetic

CAG Gonzo
Period 1
Mrs. Whine

How to Whine

Such elegant poetry. What he said is what I was saying, but I suppose the words I chose led to different interpretations. The fact that some of you seem to think I'm throwing a temper tantrum because I chose to fight for the name for my map politely instead of just ignoring SeL leads me to believe that you 1) aren't paying attention to anything but your own contorted views, and 2) that no amount of discussion will persuade you otherwise.

Oh, seniority, huh? You mean that interesting social trait that arises when people become familiar and friendly with an individual, then as time progresses, begin siding with said individual, and fighting for what he wants? Yeah, that's not seniority. It's popularity. And it has no correlation to whose map should get the name. SeL may be more experienced, and I recognize he has seniority over me because of his experience, but that doesn't mean I'm evil for defending my desire to keep my map named as is.

My map is no longer shat on steroids. For the last time, people, stop using that in your arguments. I'm unclear as to what part of 'Requiem is no longer a rip, copy, or remake of Extinction' you are misunderstanding. It started out as a plan to overhaul the Extinction concept; nothing more.

Again, I'm not whining. Say again: I am not whining. If I need to repeat it for you a third time, then all hope is lost for you. I chose to confront this issues. What if SeL releases his Requiem, and I release mine, with neither of us giving thought to each other's work. Would you not say that is disrespectful and rude, on both of our parts? Thus, I have brought this up now, instead of ignoring it, as SeL has done.

Newbkilla, how about you go back and read my response to SeL before saying all I have to do is rename my scenario file? You might learn something, and can avoid coming off as a fool who is making inaccurate/incomplete assertions.

Sel's map is of higher quality to you. In my opinion, my map is better than his. SeL will feel the same way (about his map). You can't use personal opinion as a concrete base for determining who has rights to the map name.

“Last I checked bungie has not made any maps where you fly around in invincible vehicles for 5 minutes before seeing anyone, sorry.”

This is true. However, you cannot extend this statement to my map, as it is not a copy, rip, or remake of Extinction. I used to love that map, but it attracts some of the worst players in CE. Too noobtastic, hence this weird long and drawn out process that is called multiplayer design, which you seem to have conveniently overlooked. Ask yourself this: does it seem logical that I would go through all this effort of making a fantastic map, just to have it left to rot by leaving everything up to the noobtacular par of Extinction? If you're getting an answer other than 'no', you have problems with some process of your logic.

“I've been at this for four years, all changing the map name requires is taking your .scenario and saving it under a new name :s”

I'm sorry. Do you have access to my hard drive? No? So you don't know where I have references to Requiem. I have dozens of scenes bearing the name in some aspect, not to mention several documents describing the plan, process, testing procedures, etc. Renaming them, while not difficult, would certainly be tedious. Not to mention, I've been operating with Requiem as the name for over two years.

“A halomaps thread, as I've already pointed out, hardly constitutes the amount of time in development, let alone rights to a map name”

Perhaps, but it does alert the public to your intent. You can say you've been working on a map named Requiem for 10 years if you want. But if no one else knew that, and someone else comes along and publicly declares their intent to use the name before you do, well you don't really have anyone to be mad at other than yourself. I get you had the name first (in this case), but no one else can vouch for you (again, in this case), and you can't (more than likely) offer concrete proof. This is how most things of this nature work.

“My answer probably would have been different if what you were making looked anything like a map that has the potential to play well, and not something doomed to be incredibly popular among the bad players who play the maps like it (read most of the ce community).”

Geez man. No need to get all pissy. I could extend similar conjectures to your map if you want to take that route. We can all find things wrong here. You clearly don't seem to be a big fan of large, open maps. But your logic here fails in that you seem to think I'm going to use the same noob-based weapon and vehicle palettes.

Let me make this clear: a lot of thought is going into tailoring the tags to help coerce a tactical application of effort on the part of the player. Translation: I'm working hard to cut down the noobiness of the palettes. If you can't accept that, fine. But stop bringing it up, because this map is no longer a copy, rip, remake, or anything else other than a large map with some smaller minimaps within.

I understand the majority of the CE community is under-aged and incredibly nooby at playing the game. But they'll still have maps like Extinction and Coldsnap to go noob to their heart's content. Requiem is for intelligent, strategic and tactical players. Ive spent a lot of time not only considering how to tailor the tags to this style of gameplay, but also how to tailor the BSP to discourage camping in places, using any one vehicle or weapon throughout the game, and so on, so forth.

If you don't like big maps, that's your opinion and I won't try and convince you to leave it. But quit whining about mine. I'll take your criticism, but you haven't given me anything other than a modified statement of your hatred for large maps filled with nooby palettes. If you have something specific related to the map itself, lay it on me.


"I came in here expecting to see more progress on the Extinction remake. Ugh...wut?"

"and you found a good map instead

*SHOCKER*"

Real mature of you. For someone who has been in this business for a while, you sure are acting childish and intolerant. I'd think spending a few years in this kind of community would build up a sort of immunity to things like this, but I suppose it could summarily have the opposite effect. Nevertheless, I won't be joining you at your level. You have fun continuing to make a fool of yourself.

I came here to figure out who was naming their map Requiem. Holy cow. It was supposed to be as simple as 'Hey, I wanted to use Requiem for my large map, but you want to use it for your small map. What should we do to rectify this so we don't both release a map with the same name?'.

But no.

Your cocky self decided, for some reason or other, to turn it into some sort of big deal. Grow up already. I really don't understand why you're so worried, or what the hell your problem is, unless there's something under the surface going on here. You don't see me getting arrogant about my map, awesome as it is. It's better than yours in my own opinion, largely because it is my own labor, but also because I just don't liked close-quarters map designs. Too inviting of noob tactics. But in either case I'm not about to go preaching to the community about how my map is so much better than yours.

If you can't have even the common decency to be polite about all this, then whatever. You continue making your 'oh so special' map, and I'll continue mine. Obviously, you'll be done before me, as I still have quite a lot of work to do before alpha release. If this whole name issue can't be resolved due to your grotesque inaction, then do whatever you want, because it seems that's all that matters to you, anyway.

To those suggesting one or both of us rename our maps (and that are doing so politely), I'm considering the notion. If SeL decides his almighty superior map is to be named Requiem and gets it out before me, obviously, there's nothing I can do about it. I'll rename my map to something entirely different that will in no way bear any relation to Requiem or a production from SeL.

Since SeL will likely continue to stand idly as his map and its name are challenged, let this be an end-all: quit whining about the name. Move discussions about my map to my thread, and keep criticizing this one on this thread. Don't mix them up any more than they already are.

So uh yea.

Looks like someone needs to stop using a thesaurus every time they post :|

Sel, just come up with a good name and don't tell anyone except extremely trustable people what you may want it to be... It should fit whatever design the map ends up going with imo, if you go with the space station style that could influence the name... Etc.

If you want me to stop using common sense on that kid let me know.

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I doubt it matters what you do haha he's obviously fucking retarded also it's really really gratifying that I've made a hundred 12 year old halo nerds ultra angry at me because I don't care about some 5km box map :33

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I'd unsubscribe from that thread unless you're providing feedback about his oh so superior map. I tried being reasonable about it but it somehow exploded into some drawn out ordeal before I realized he and his pathetic followers aren't understanding a word of what I say.

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who even subscribes to threads

hahahahhahah this post jesus

Alright serious post here does anyone know how to do pull off the shield recharge effect (ie snow grove)

So you don't care about the nerds at Halo Maps, yet you must bring the drama here. Cool.

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So you don't care about the nerds at Halo Maps, yet you must bring the drama here. Cool.

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yeah? Does it offend you, YEAH?

I made my first post on halomaps just for this thread.

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yeah? Does it offend you, YEAH?

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Lol, you should think before you reply.
Let me rephrase: Think before you post.
Thats what my entire post above this is about. You saying one thing, and doing another.
;)

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Lol, you should think before you reply.
Let me rephrase: Think before you post.
Thats what my entire post above this is about. You saying one thing, and doing another.
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let me rephrase that

you shouldn't post at all

Changelog for this weeks test.

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Teleporters are now two way

Grenades on spawn have been removed

2 Shields in mid

Rocket launcher reserve ammo removed (was 2)

Sniper reserve ammo lowered to 4 (was 8)

Swapped OS with Sniper Rifle

Raised the bridge, you can no longer jump onto it from the lower area.

Playerclipped more areas.

maybe more things I forgot.

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Anyone want to put money on Selentic getting banned? I've got 200 bucks on two weeks for being a belligerent jerk. Any takers?

He already got banned once for a similar thing.
What makes you think he won't just make a new account again?

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Anyone want to put money on Selentic getting banned? I've got 200 bucks on two weeks for being a belligerent jerk. Any takers?

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I'll take that 200 from you now since he won't be getting banned, at least not for doing his best at dealing with the idiot kids at HaloMaps.

pay the man tyrant.

Damn. You take checks?

Canadian mafia ITT

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I'll take that 200 from you now since he won't be getting banned, at least not for doing his best at dealing with the idiot kids at HaloMaps.

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Yes, but he is bringing it here.
Btw, Dee was banned for what he did on a game.
Funny how this forum works now.

post about it more

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Yes, but he is bringing it here.
Btw, Dee was banned for what he did on a game.
Funny how this forum works now.

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DEE was banned for destroying hours of creative work. You're saying someone who comes to your house and burns down all your paintings shouldn't be punished?

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DEE was banned for destroying hours of creative work. You're saying someone who comes to your house and burns down all your paintings shouldn't be punished?

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Since I don't want to help continue shitting up this thread...can somebody edit the wiki to reflect this? I don't remember what happened.

Freelancer you're a fucking tool. The forum and your stupid server are two separate entities. Just because you sucked Jcap's dick to get moderator status doesn't mean you have the authority to ban someone off a game dev forum for something he did on your private server.

Tl;dr Kill yourself

btw it wasn't even DEE, it was SFloyd.

Well, cya~

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DEE was banned for destroying hours of creative work. You're saying someone who comes to your house and burns down all your paintings shouldn't be punished?

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This is pissing me off.
I did not DO anything first of all.
For one, you do not have valid proof and this forum has taken a lead drop since you became moderator.
SFloyd was the one that was in the IRC and posted the Ip of the server to places such as 4chan and a few random irc channels on gamesurge.

And even if it was me, you took action in your usual immature manner of trying to press the "eject" button more than once.

SFloyd was more than willing to claim credit for the greifings since he doesn't give two fucks about this community but regularly joins the IRC to sift through the debris of a community you are tyrannizing.

But wait, you wouldn't take the chance of being proven wrong.
You wouldn't want to put on a show if you know you have a chance at screwing up.




Just sayin.

Modacity has an IRC? :O Why wasn't I told?

I was mostly kidding around. Sorry that I shitted up your thread Selentic, I mostly meant it as a joke/was trying to make a comment about how people always squabble over you for some reason.

BTW, the wiki has info on banned users? Can I get a link? I'm kind of interested now...

A) Any further discussion on these irrelevant points in this thread will result in Infractions. If you'd like to make a thread in the appropriate forum about it, be my guest.

B) I never asked to be a moderator, one of the existing moderators recommended that I should be promoted. TheGhost and jcap then approved this after I was extended an invitation.

C) jcap was the one who made the decision to ban DEE. He and I both had proof that DEE's Minecraft player destroyed blocks, SFloyd was also found guilt and consequently banned as well for the same thing. In addition one of the two allegedly invited the other to the server and then that player proceeded to invite people from other message boards and 4chan to come grief our server.

D) Griefing is generally a one time ban offense on almost every Minecraft server I've ever played on or heard of, jcap and I fully support that policy on the Modacity Minecraft Server. I guess jcap decided that it was also serious enough to warrant a site-ban.

E) Interestingly enough, the most common comment I've heard from the staff is "at least he [Freelancer] still takes the site business seriously". If users can't follow our very simple to understand Acceptable Use Policy they can feel free to bugger off. If they're leaving because they have some kind of personal vendetta against me or because it's a cool bandwagon to jump on, they're free to do that as well.

Now, any posts not about Selentic's new map (currently named Requiem) in this thread will be met with an appropriate Infraction and soft deletion to prevent any more thread shitting.

Wait, NVOUS is Selentic? Damn, I need to get with the times. Well at least it explains the good map design.

Alright so here's the planned changes from today's test.

4 frag Grenade spawns in each base

Move the teleporter in the bottom mid into the center of the platform, remove camo, replace os with camo/os powerup.

More cover on the bridge.

Other than that, we should be pretty much good to go.

When is this supposed to be happening?

About an hour and a half ago!

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naiß :D

attn everyone

FUCK

PORTALS

FUCK

PORTALS

FUCK

PORTALS

FUCK

PORTALS

FUCK

PORTALS

FUCK

PORTALS

Love the middle part. Good job on the map. Like it a lot. :)

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attn everyone

FUCK

PORTALS

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Well....I guess there's always a hole.

Ugh- portals frigging blow. I found during Precipice that portalling inclusively works better than exclusively. I.e. Portal so that you move from area to area, rather than sealing off sections so they won't render. Idk if that makes sense, but it worked for me a bit.

what

how do I do that

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He means close off parts that you won't see entirley, IE, those intersections in Requiem or the back teleporters.

What higuy said. Sorry, I didn't see your response until now, or I would have elaborated.

What I've found is that the game is better at only rendering a section that you're in versus not-rendering a section you're not in.
That sounds bizarre, but take a look back at the tutorial map in the HEK. They portalled the hallway so that when the player is standing in it, everything else disappears. When I tried to do the reverse in Precipice, i.e. portal an area so it would disappear when I -wasn't- in it, the game gave me bizarre visual portal errors. Therefore I suggest portalling inclusive areas first, and then the areas like higuy suggested. Also exactportals are the best for everything ever.

Note that the entire art is totally random to a point, so what worked for me might turn out to not work at all for your map :ugh:

halp



the bsp model is 28k~ tris, why is it rendering over 100k

Because it renders BSP in multiple passes. I've seen that it renders lightmaps first then does a second pass for textures, so it makes sense that it does extra passes for other shader features such as reflections. As for over 100k, thats including all non bsp triangles as well, so scenery, weapons, sky, etc. The final tri count for your BSP at that particular camera point is 74224. You could turn off reflection cube maps on geometry that you dont really notice them on to confirm this, could help to reduce your tri count.

Alright.



This is pretty much as low as I can get it without seriously compromising the visual appeal of the map so any other suggestions?

Also I'm curious what fog is, there's no fog in the map, aside from the skybox fog, and after removing the skybox, it still lists 14k tris being used for it. As far as I'm concerned that's easily 14k tris that could be cut out, if anyone knows how.

Try Globals to see if anything in those tags is causing fog.

There, fucking finally, optimized a few more things I forgot, and it seems to be working now (I've spoken too soon on this before, so yeah, we'll see :V)

Looks good but boring...

Oh didn't see the pics on the last few pages, looks nice man I like

Edit: Sorry for double post.

attn : conscars

WORK OR ELSE PENALTIES

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attn : conscars

WORK OR ELSE PENALTIES

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MORE HOLOGRAMS.


But seriously, that looks nice... need to step up the notch on mine. Just need things to stop disappearing. Good work.

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MORE HOLOGRAMS.


But seriously, that looks nice... need to step up the notch on mine. Just need things to stop disappearing. Good work.

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Aim me and I might be able to help

selenticthepanda

also make this your wallpaper if you think conscars is a lazy shit !!!