[Wip] CCP map - Impetuous

Eh well I would rather post it here for whatever reason. But I am working on a MP map for ccp. Impetuous is a small canyon carved by wind, water, and time on Delta Halo. With a river running through the map from red base to blue base. The structures were made for irrigation of a larger river that flowed to a lake, but eventually the water lessened and there is only one small river now.

It's only on it's second beta, so there is still more to add/change.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7841/impetuous1az6.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4052/impetuous3ib9.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/729/impetuous4wp3.jpg


Also, the second picture, the ridges of the platform are a different texture now, so I would rather you not get bitchy on me about it. Pictures are also in chronological order. Meaning first when was the very first build (alpha actually) two days ago, second was yesterday, and third was a couple minutes ago (from when this post was made).

Oh, I like, looks real good.

Needs more variation in terrain.

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Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP

Needs more variation in terrain.

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Lol.

You can't see it because of the lighting... It makes everything one solid color. Look in the shadows and you can see what he terrain is like.

Maybe make the structure look damaged? I think it would add to how old they are.

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

Lol.

You can't see it because of the lighting... It makes everything one solid color. Look in the shadows and you can see what he terrain is like.

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No I saw. Im saying IMO it needs more variation.

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Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP

Needs more variation in terrain.

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Agreed, it's not flat but it does seem a bit bland.

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Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP

Needs more variation in terrain.

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I recently made a small Halo themed map with terrain that looked as flat in max, but was fine ingame.

Also, map is bad, get out :)

Looks very interesting. Keep up the good work :)

[n00b]What does CCP mean?[/n00b]

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Originally Posted by Rescudo

Looks very interesting. Keep up the good work :)

[n00b]What does CCP mean?[/n00b]

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yes, I agree, what is CCP?

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I recently made a small Halo themed map with terrain that looked as flat in max, but was fine ingame.

Also, map is bad, get out :)

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wai i no git luv :( /me gets out

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Originally Posted by Rescudo

Looks very interesting. Keep up the good work :)

[n00b]What does CCP mean?[/n00b]

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Covenant Campaign Project.

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Originally Posted by Stealth

yes, I agree, what is CCP?

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Covenant Campaign Project.

Me likey. Keep up the good work.

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

Covenant Campaign Project.

Covenant Campaign Project.

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lol, okay. Keep up the good work :)

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4052/impetuous3ib9.jpg

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The tunnel exits are completely unnatural. It implies that the stone used for the walls of the tunnel have absolutely no width.

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Originally Posted by Arteen

The tunnel exits are completely unnatural. It implies that the stone used for the walls of the tunnel have absolutely no width.

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http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/9...etuous5vj9.jpg

So what do you suggest I do then Arteen?

Add a border to the outside where the wall meets the tunnel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/door_001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/door_002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/door_003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/door_004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/door_005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/door_006.jpg
Something like these.

Ah, ok.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2...etuous5yi6.jpg
Better? And I don't feel like making it all special with chamfered top edges because I don't feel like re-UVing the cliffs. Which took about 2 hours to UV...

u don't really have to if you're good witht he cut tool :/

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2...etuous5yi6.jpg
Better? And I don't feel like making it all special with chamfered top edges because I don't feel like re-UVing the cliffs. Which took about 2 hours to UV...

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Not by much. It looks like you didn't feel like making it all special with chamfered top edges. Besides, it wouldn't take more than two minutes to fix the cliff UVs.

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Originally Posted by Arteen

it wouldn't take more than two minutes to fix the cliff UVs.

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I wish. :/

Just use the target weld tool to fix the messed faces. 30secs tops.

Needs more chamfer tbh.

To hell with the UVWs.

You wanna see a UVW error, then i'll show you the shit i'm going through with SnaFs' UVW'ing. Just fix the bloody thing you girl.

(Note to SnaF; I enjoy it :))

Wow, way to make a good map when you dont wanna spend the time to make it better and fix an error.

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Originally Posted by PlasbianX

Wow, way to make a good map when you dont wanna spend the time to make it better and fix an error.

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More like I will spend time to fix it for the next build since I just did radiosity for a new build several minutes ago. :|

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

I wish. :/

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It really won't. I don't see what is so difficult about it.

• Collapse the UV

• Detach the bad/unuved faces

• Do a simple box UV or something like that

• Reattach to the rest of the cliffs

• Select UV unwrap

• Move and rescale the altered faces to where they should be located on the UV

• Weld UV vertices there

Is that so hard?

Well now it wouldn't. Because I never knew how to do that. :|

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Originally Posted by Btd69

You wanna see a UVW error, then i'll show you the shit i'm going through with SnaFs' UVW'ing. Just fix the bloody thing you girl.

(Note to SnaF; I enjoy it :))

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:XD:

Looks like an interesting enough map... but what'll really make it shine is a lot of custom textures (I am so FUCKING sick of seeing Blood Gulch grass textures in every single map) and a new skybox. Definitely needs a lot of work, but has potential. The whole box canyon thing is a little overdone though, you should have some branching paths and possibly underground tunnels and overground walkways. Just my opinion.

Tunnels are already thought of and being executed. It has a new sky, thank you Boba ;p. And it really isn't a box canyon, I don't know where you get that from... It's more like an L if anything. Bloodgulch has no grass texture, it is a detail texture for the basemap, and there is no other grass detail texture (that I know of).

So make your own?

Thats hard, like super hard. The stock one doesn't look that bad.

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Originally Posted by rossmum

So make your own?

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You're not serious, are you?

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

You're not serious, are you?

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Possibly... how hard is it, what's involved? Never tried :p

Let see you make a realistic, tile-able, good looking grass texture. :| That looks good when tiled a lot.

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

:|

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You say :| too much :XD: . Very interesting map, looks like one that will be fun to play. But anyways, what else is going on in CCP besides this map?

Pixies and candy canes, obviously.

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

Let see you make a realistic, tile-able, good looking grass texture. :| That looks good when tiled a lot.

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Point taken.

Perhaps base it on that one, but add variation?

Whiplash, will this one do?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...tail_grass.jpg

C'mon guys, I have the hookup on all textures big and small :)

EDIT: I can pimp yo map, East Coast Australia style.

Green grass? What the fuck? :O

Oh my god Btd I love you. Thanks. :)

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Originally Posted by Arteen

It really won't. I don't see what is so difficult about it.

• Collapse the UV

• Detach the bad/unuved faces

• Do a simple box UV or something like that

• Reattach to the rest of the cliffs

• Select UV unwrap

• Move and rescale the altered faces to where they should be located on the UV

• Weld UV vertices there

Is that so hard?

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Would you even have to go through all of that? I usually just select the faces I want to modify and then apply the modifiers. It leaves all of the other stuff alone, so you don't really have to detatch.

Ya, you don't have to detach it, and you don't have to move it, just target weld the verts.

EDIT: You have the weirdest modeling technique I have ever seen whiplash.

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Would you even have to go through all of that? I usually just select the faces I want to modify and then apply the modifiers. It leaves all of the other stuff alone, so you don't really have to detatch.

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I'm a newb at UVing, I know. :(

Yea thats what I do too Ghost.

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Originally Posted by Nic

Yea thats what I do too Ghost.

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... i lol'd. I dont even think you know how to UV :lol:

Yea not well, but I know enough(ish) to get by.

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Green grass? What the fuck? :O

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Yes! I never seen it green before :0.

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Originally Posted by WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ

Oh my god Btd I love you. Thanks. :)

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I have most environmental detail maps; snow, sand etc.

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Tunnels are already thought of and being executed. It has a new sky, thank you Boba ;p. And it really isn't a box canyon, I don't know where you get that from... It's more like an L if anything. Bloodgulch has no grass texture, it is a detail texture for the basemap, and there is no other grass detail texture (that I know of).

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Box canyon doesn't mean shaped like a box, box canyon means it's a canyon with walls on all sides. Making it a non-box canyon would entail adding multiple pathways and possibly a cliff or some other open segment.

Alot of the Halo campaign is done in that fashion..

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Originally Posted by Btd69

Alot of the Halo campaign is done in that fashion..

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Yes, I know that. That's why that kind of map is getting tired. Having a dropoff or undergruond portion of a map, or even aboveground portions of the map (Lockout, as an example?) adds a lot more depth to the gameplay than the usual Halo formula of *spawn, pistol pistol pistol death*, because you have to look up, down, and all around for enemies. Less open space and more dark corners also means much less long range pistol sniping and makes the gameplay more frenzied. What really kicks ass in a map is to have paths that utilize every facet of three dimensions. Indoor, outdoor, below and above. Danger Canyon did that, and Yoyorast Island did that. That's why you still see servers running those maps. I'm not sure why people like Blood Gulch so much but it follows the same basic formula. It has indoor portions, outdoor portions, tunnels valleys hills and cliffs. Maps like Hugeass which are nothing but large outdoor areas get old fast, and that's why that map was a fad you never see played anymore. A map has to cater to all the different playing styles of potential players, or few people will be playing it.

But this is an SP map.

Wait Impetuous? This is actually supposed to be mp... >_>

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Originally Posted by Me

Eh well I would rather post it here for whatever reason. But I am working on a MP map for ccp. Impetuous is a small canyon carved by wind, water, and time on Delta Halo. With a river running through the map from red base to blue base. The structures were made for irrigation of a larger river that flowed to a lake, but eventually the water lessened and there is only one small river now.

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Mmmhm.

In that case, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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Originally Posted by Btd69

In that case, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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less text more pics :P

You don't tell pics when to come, they tell YOU!

lol Fair play