Quick-Crit 2008-2009

The QC Thread is a place for your most current works of any kind or any game and get quick advice. Why use this instead of a [GALLERY] thread or a WIP thread in another section? You can post your projects in their own thread if you want, but if you want fast advice on a smaller project, this is the place for you. This is not a place for you to dump all your work (It's not a big truck), but rather a place for work that doesn't require a whole thread in the Studio. That being said, please avoid posting loads of images. Keep that to your [GALLERY] threads. Essentially, this is like the good ol' Offtopic Gallery Thread minus all crap that plagued it and its sibling in the CE section.

So here are the rules:

• This is not a [GALLERY] thread, only post your most current work that does not require a whole thread.
• Make sure your images are big enough to crit, not too dark, and remember that wireframes for models are helpful.
• Images larger than the page size must be put in [shot] tags.
• Use [spoiler] tags sparingly; it's annoying having to click to open and view every single one of your images.
• Last but not least, no shitposting. This thread's been going good so far, don't ruin it.

Let's see some work!

p0lar edit:

Please note the following addition to the AUP as of 2/17:

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CRITIQUE

Keep in mind that there are professional artists, modelers, writers, animators, etc in this community who have taken college courses and have degrees in varied areas. When posting your work for critique, please specify if you are looking for professional advice to make it as perfect as it can get, or if you just want a basic rundown to improve your work.

• When asking for professional critique, you are opening yourself up to comments that you may find mean or rough. Feel free to inquire further or challenge the critic if they're too vague or you disagree, but do not retaliate to these comments (i.e: "fuck off, it took me X days to make this what do you know"), as this is normal in the professional world, and retaliating in such a way makes you look incompetent.
• If asking for basic advice, make sure to specify what the final role of the work will be. Is it an artistic piece? Will it be going into a game?

If you do not specify what kind of advice you'd like, it will be considered by default that you are looking for a professional review.

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Map I've been working on with Duce.

Name is Haven, I'm gonna make a thread when I get further along.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...omeworklol.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...havenbase3.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...havenbase2.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/unoitfoo.jpg
I've done quite a bit of the terrain, but in general, if it looks good, it's Duce.

I would make the center "panel" in (each one of those sections of 3 on the big wall) have some little detail extruded out somehow to break the pattern.

Reminds me of Valhalla in a good way.

Jesus mass. Your work is incredible. I can't wait till this map is finished. From what I can tell, theres nothing really that needs fixing. It's overall amazing :awesome:

I love it.

Also, good idea for a thread, Con. :haw:

This is my current lyrical project, and I'm just looking for any other writers' (and anyone else's') opinions and constructive criticism on what I've done so far. I still need to update it in my gallery topic (link in my signature), but that will come later, probably after I'm done with it for the foreseeable future. Of course I'll work on it much later in time, but that's not the point right now. I just want to know what anyone thinks about it. I still have to write the second and third verses (as seen by the exes). I still feel unsure about the addendum (last two verses) due to the fact that their timing is completely off when compared to the rest of the song, but I'm thinking about having them as spoken/whispered/mumbled verse rather than sung. If anyone has questions about this particular work's meaning, feel free to ask.

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Remind me how to stand again
I'm sure I can't on my own
Tracing lines you've left behind
Chasing your trail alone

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Even though I feel this way
I'll believe what you say

Loosing my balance
You pull me in
Sleepwalk my way
Into your daydream

Even though I feel this way
I'll believe what you say
You say I'm not dying / Lend me strength - Remind me
You say I'm not dying / Lead me through - Your reverie

Treading through the fallen petals
Your ocean drawing nearer
I see the wind run through the trees
But I don't feel your breeze on me

Squinting into the distant sun
I rescind my dreams
Blinded by the sharp reflections
I can't be reached by your fading shine

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I like the idea you've got, but crazy connor likes rhymes >_>

*rhymes :eng101:

I'm giving you crit on your spelling.

Amazing lyrics man. Would I be assuming to much to say that Tool and A Perfect Circle are your favourite bands?

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I love it.

Also, good idea for a thread, Con. :haw:

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yes......... con >_<

i said this needed to be done weeks ago. just a different format for it.
good to see somethings finally being done about it.

You'd be on the right lines, but overstepping a tad, Dane. Maynard's lyrical abilities are quite a good inspiration, as you might have seen in my past signature set, which quoted Rose, The Noose, H., and Gravity, but his groups (including Puscifer) don't make the cut to be within my top 5: Lacuna Coil, In Flames, 311, Static-X and Ghost Machine (one of the many projects featuring Ivan Moody, the former vocalist of Motograter and the current vocalist for Five Finger Deathpunch, who will be featured as a minor act at the Mayhem Fest this summer - I'm going to see them in DC in August!). This one specifically is heavily influenced by In Flames' The Chosen Pessimist, from their latest album A Sense Of Purpose. Add me on aim or xf when you're free and we'll chat etc.

Also, lolross.

Also also, we need a smiley for lolross.

ohh man that reminds me SOO much of somethign i was working on a while ago. i never finished it tho.

shame, i think it'd go along with that quite well.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2...rpillarjd3.jpg

Don't yell at me about geometry errors, i'll get to them in due time, tell me what you think of the design. I'ts not done by the way, only just started the side wall parts like 2 minutes ago.

It looks quite nice. If it had to fit somewhere in the Halo universe (which it absolutely doesn't have to if you don't desire it to), then I would have to say it were some of the more recent Forerunner or oldest Covenant architecture, since it, and your similar artwork of late, seems to be a bridge between the two races' styles (but still definitely your own), I could totally see this style working for a hexagonally radial map idea that I've been doing some sketches for lately.

It's not for halo.

Looks good.

Can I see a clay render meester? :D

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Can I see a clay render meester? :D

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Not until its done. I haven't smoothed it or ironed out some of the problems in the verts.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3084/bandcamptw9.jpg

crits welcome.
yes this is a joke

What the fuck hahahaha

Its a box. A human box. It holds stuff. I don't know what stuff, but it holds it.

There will be hundreds of these in different colors strewn about a decaying military storage facility map I'm working on (Condemned: inspired by, but not a full-blown remake of, Damnation). I'm going to make a wonky-looking clamp-forklift to move it, and to have a nameable piece of scenery, and thus a nameable location.

Its dimensions are 50-wide, 75-long, and 43.75-high (so you can still crouch-jump onto a two-high stack, which will be imperative to gameplay), 2064 verts, 410 faces.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...323/Box000.png
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...323/Box001.png
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...323/Box002.png
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...323/Box003.png
Tell me what you think, and if it needs any improvements. I made it completely with spline modeling, so don't bitch at me about chamfer/bevel tools. Any additional insets will be done via bump mapping, as to keep it somewhat low-poly. If anyone wants to skin it, that would be great.

I'm curious as to what excuse you can come up with for the corners. They seem unnecessary and just reduce the volume with no apparent benefit.

I didn't like how triangles looked (they were way to similar to the Cobb boxes from H2SP/Elongation), and hexagons are cool. If you want to get all logical and theoretical, you need somewhere to put the contents labeling that won't be covered when the boxes are stacked, and the triangular area doesn't provide enough usable space for the labeling. Also, these boxes are more about durability and safety than volume-efficiency. I said they were for a military storage facility - if the contents are munitions, you can give up a bit more space for being clear that you should be careful when shipping/opening the crate. Thanks for making me justify that.

That works.

For the top of the box, you should continue some of corner's lines across the length and width of the box to form a lid.

Any methods of opening the box won't be modeled, since I'll be having over 100 of them placed around the map (the majority in inaccessible areas, so detail isn't that major), I'm just giving them enough model detail to be interesting. If you want to skin it, you could make it appear as if it had a lid...

I could totally imagine putting my junk in that box.

Just trying out some new texturing advice I got. I always mess up with brushes, so Maniac is going to send me some of his scratch and grunge brushes..
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...aulerFinal.jpg

Model made by Aklass for H3MT. Texture may or may not be temporary as of yet.

^:awesome:

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I could totally imagine putting my junk in that box.

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Put your junk in my box plz...

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Just trying out some new texturing advice I got. I always mess up with brushes, so Maniac is going to send me some of his scratch and grunge brushes..
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...aulerFinal.jpg

Model made by Aklass for H3MT. Texture may or may not be temporary as of yet.

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VERY nice

tahts a very nice looking box.
good job :)

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Originally Posted by ßðÐŻÍ££å

tahts a very nice looking box.
good job :)

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agreed, my own theories for the corners came to mind right away though before I read anything, perhaps they are shaped that way so they can be carried and/or moved on and off of shipping vessels (spacecraft of some kind) thus having the shape at each corner for maximum control and manipulation of the freight boxes, or what ever you'd be naming them. I thought possibly some sort of electro magnetic arms of some sort could "clip" or attach to the corners, then move it around and such. You could also create "shelf" type objects that fit into the hexagon shapes for when there stacked together. Idk jus thinking creatively, I like em :D

EDIT: My idea is make your fork lift use the corners to hold it kind of, if that makes sense to you... *the idea is in my head and looks right in my head, but idk how else to explain it.* XD

Thanks everyone for your comments on the crate. _@/

I'm already re-planning the box - the hexagon corners will definitely stay, but I just don't like how the ring around them turned out. I'll be making functional indentations so the clamp-lift (like a forklift, but will use clamps - get it? The clamps will grab from all four corners of the crate with eight connection points) will be able to grab them easily, as well as allow the boxes to be stacked and held in place when spacers are used in between layers.

Also, I've just about finished the 2-d layout for the intended level, and I am glad to say that everything effortlessly fell in to place. I still have no idea how I even got so much work done on the layout in so little time, let alone got the idea. It is quite unlike any other map concept that I've had in the past, yet it makes perfect sense to me. I have completed the weapon/player/scenery/flag/hill/ball/checkpoint spawns and am quite happy with the results.

The history the map's setting is an abandoned military storage/shipping facility, and is thus quite industrial (chain-link barriers, fluorescent lighting, ventilation ducts, maintenance and elevator shafts, and a crapload - 142 as per the last layout - of boxes), but is also in a state of disrepair. The only strategically-important damage to the structure is a pair of gaping holes in the ceiling/floor of the second/third levels which allows travel between the two areas. Later on, after I've gotten the basic model in-game, I (or whoever I can get to help) will touch up the model with area-specific damage and decay.

The map was definitely inspired by Damnation, with the two bases being stripped-down versions of the parallel ramp areas. The catwalks and pathways connecting them have been completely replaced, however, with 3 levels of combat - an almost-pitch-black lower floor and a god-ray illuminated middle floor, both filled with an array of support pillars and barricades, and an open-combat landing pad on top. Each floor has numerous ways to descend, and almost as many ways (for the skilled jumpers) to ascend from one level to another.

I am currently looking for someone who can help with the skinning and HEK work, an associate, if you will. Fell free to PM me if you're interested and have the time - the 3d work should be done within the next week or so, my work schedule permitting.

Something Ive been working on lately.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...c/pillar-1.jpg

Any complaints?

That thing on the side that looks like a blast door partially open is kinda :\

Looks really good except for that screwed up hexagon thing in the tower. It doesn't look that forunner to me. Overall good work however. Also, needs a front support because it looks really awkward with that big tower and nothing holding it up except where its attached to the base.

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Also, needs a front support because it looks really awkward with that big tower and nothing holding it up except where its attached to the base.

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I don't think so; forerunner architecture has a lot of stuff like that. One needs to look no further than The Covenant or TSC to find similar overhangs. The most it needs are a few energy tethers or something.

dude it looks like a penis.

i'm not joking.

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dude it looks like a penis.

i'm not joking.

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dude you have a fucked up penis.

i'm not joking.

at least my penis doesnt have "master chief shaped" crabs running all over it D:

needs work dude. you've got a massive overhang with two smaller round areas next to it :gonk:

My attempt at trying to create my own style of patterns and such.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8...runner1mo5.png
Ignore the watermark in the middle.

hm, it's, well, hm
Idk, it seems like the style is sort of self contradictory. plus the base seems to have nothing to do with the pattern on top of it.

So, in art I have this whole topic on 'decay' that I have been working on, kinda looking at vanitas related stuff.
The skeleton on the left is painted on two pieces of rusted metal I found in an old abandoned house near mine (was actually part of the roof XD)
Both drawn on the same page because I'm supposed to be putting together a "research work book", gunna be painting the apple thing on a larger piece of metal when i find one.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6629/img0125rf2.jpg
E: for some reason the yellow parts of the metal look extremely saturated on my desktop screen, yet on my laptop monitor, appear fine, I hope it's just my desktop screen being mis-calibrated.. :saddowns:

E again: Yes, I know I need to fix the thumb bone.

Looks good, though the lower part of the skeleton could use work. Might also be worth emphasising the fusion joints between the various skull bones.

As for me, been working on my HL2 Raising the Bar soldiers some more; churned out another two today:

Looks great Ross.

And Nugget, as far as I'm concerned that brute gun skin is pretty well monotoned and blurred to hell and back.

It's mostly blurry because I saved the .jpg on low quality. :(

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My attempt at trying to create my own style of patterns and such.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8...runner1mo5.png
Ignore the watermark in the middle.

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Having an overlaying pattern of detail like that is fine, except you don't want it to continue across large parts of the texture. The pattern of boxes and shapes in your other layers seem too bright compared to the very dark metal base you've chosen. The boxes seem too much like an afterthought than anything else. Add detailing and scratching along the exposed edges of details, like they would be scratched in real life.

Reaper Man, I love the mixed-media work there. I often use scrap-metal, pieces of screen, and other random things in my work to give texture and vary the surface, and I'd say you're doing a perfect job of it.

Rossmum, great reskinnings of the Combine. One pointer: play with the goggle lenses a bit more - the main functionality of the lens color on the original version was to make the bipeds recognizable in dark areas. Look at how the neon teal lenses relate to the grey-blue secondary camouflage color, and try to emulate that same pattern in your own three variations. Also, think about what environments the permutations would be used in to decide what would work best to make them stand out in different lightings. Additionally, I think you should make some camouflage variants of the Combine Officer - I've seen your other renditions and found them interesting and well-suited for their respective environments, but not practical for urban/rural combat. Heck, you should even attempt to reskin the Hunter, Strider, APC, Helicopter, Dropship, Gunship and all of the CP/Combine weapons and drones. I think you've got enough talent to do a whole series.

Now, on to my stuff. I believe I'm almost done editing/reconfiguring my latest lyrical work for now. I've tried to centralize it and make it more concise, while still retaining its semi-ambiguousness. I've tried to work with the theme of blocking out the unwanted truth with a memory, only to have it bring about overall detachment. I don't think I've said it before, so let me clarify things: I use '/' to denote a change in vocalists and '-' to denote a pause. Here goes:

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Remind me how to stand again
I'm sure I can't on my own
Tracing lines you've left behind
Chasing your trail alone

Blinded by the sharp reflections
Your distant sun grows cold
Wandering through your reverie
My intentions draw blood

Even though I feel this way
I'll believe what you say
Hopefully

Losing my balance
Your gravity pulls me
Sleepwalk my way
Into your daydream

Remind me how to stand again
I'm sure I can't on my own
Even though - I feel this way
I'll believe - What you say

Treading through the fallen petals / Even though
Your ocean drawing nearer / I feel this way
I see the wind run through the trees / I'll believe
But I don't feel your breeze on me / What you say

Squinting into your distant sun / Even though
I rescind my dreams / I feel this way
I can't be reached by the fading light / You say I'm not dying
But your shine still embraces me / You say I'm not dying

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Tell me what you think!

I'm still looking for someone who wants to help me get my current HCE mapping project in-game - I'm almost done with the BSP, and will be using standard weapons/bipeds for the time being, so it will only involve skinning/lighting help, and population, which is already fully diagrammed.

Loosing isn't a word. Losing is.

;)

Actually, it is a word (the act of loosening, kinda redundant but w/e), but still wasn't the word I had intended. Thanks.

Loosening is the word for the act of loosening, loosing is slang. :p

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8.../CrateB000.pnghttp://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8.../CrateB001.pnghttp://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8.../CrateB002.png
This is my second rendition of my crate. I'm much happier with how it turned out. I believe it looks a bit more functional and 'Human' without the clamp-points being connected by unnecessary 45° angle grooves, but that's just my opinion. Tell me what you all think - better or worse than the last crate?

I liked the other one better.
It had better proportions tbh. This is almost a cube.

Umm... :/

It must just be the angle, because it's the same exact size as the other - all I did was restructure the indented areas. What do you think of those parts though?

Newer one is better.

Newer one makes more sense. Those indentions reinforce the whole structure.

Conclusion...

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Cool. I've been trying to make my modeling more logical and structurally acceptable, and I think I've got it. Thanks for the feedback! Now, is anyone interested in skinning it? I just need to add a few reference lines to discern the seams where the crate separates when opened, and to show where the digital controls and displays will be, and it'll be ready to go!

I was bored...

http://www.llamajuice.com/img/phone.jpg

About a half hour spent

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FTFY

Lol, jk, looks nice. Shading is decent. Screen could use some work, but there's no going back now. :lol:

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I was bored...

http://www.llamajuice.com/img/phone.jpg

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My sister has that exact phone, nice likeness.

Reminds me of the time I was supposed to be in Chemistry class but instead I spent the whole period drawing a picture of the Dracula book I had with me :p

Took me around 4 hours to model this terrain. The Forerunner hallway and surrounding polygons are going to be replaced by a less shitty version when I finish the surrounding terrain; the hallway's a separate object than the rest of the mesh.

This is my first attempt at plane modeling an environment, not weapons like I've been practicing with. Combined the newer skills I've learned with some old stuff from previous map modeling.

Still has a shitload of work to do, but it's a start.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...ry77/beach.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...-wireframe.jpg
Poly and triangle count both stand at 375.

One thing that comes with experience is efficiency. I was about to make some abrasive remark about "omg it took you 4 hours to do that", but it occurs to me that when I first started modeling I took a lot longer to do simple stuff.

Now, don't get discouraged when I say this, but, that terrain needs a lot of work. The cliffs are too uniform and smooth, and, well, you should look at some cliff modeling tutorials.

Kudos for trying plane modeling, tho. I only started that recently. :-3

e: *looks at it a bit more* well, the cliffs are alright I suppose, they're not that bad, but still,
... well yeah they're bad.

I'm used to working with my old techniques, but Halo doesn't like them for some reason. The other engines I used to work with let me get away with FAR MORE than Halo does, so I have to re-learn my techniques.

i know exactly what you mean.
*still learning editable poly*

Any advice on exactly WHAT to fix, for future reference?

EDIT: OK, I followed Tweek's cliff tutorial and spruced up the cliffs. Poly/Trit count is at 407.
Untextured, unsmoothed:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...untextured.jpg
Untextured, smoothed:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...untextured.jpg
Textured (Default B30 Bungie cliff textures, custom crappy placeholder beach bitmap), Smoothed:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-1.jpg
If the new cliffs pass judgement, I will proceed on to the shitty Forerunner pathway I currently have. Hopefully it will look the same in-game as it does in the textured render, I rather like how that looks, but I understand if you guys can find flaws.

There is no wireframe this time because the only real changes were a couple cuts, re-arrangement of some verticies and the addition of a noise modifier. That, and I'm too lazy to get off my fat ass and render one.

Better, but still to flat. Don't rely on the noise modifier to make to cliffs look good, because it won't. Use soft selection and drag the verts to make it look more rocky. I'd give you an example, but halos stock cliffs suck major ass.

OK, I've beefed up my cliffs some. Here's a side-by-side comparison, new up top, old on the bottom:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-2.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-1.jpg

Also, wireframe:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...ireframe-1.jpg

It seems like it sticks out a lot more in Max for some reason.

The new cliffs look great.

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Thanks!
I injected more steroids into the cliffs, I'll probably stop here, unless you guys say otherwise. Once again, new on top, old on bottom.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-3.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-2.jpg
I think I may need to re-do some smoothing groups on the new cliffs, I'll get to work on those.

The cliffs look fine, but the tunnel/entrance looks really bland.

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The cliffs look fine, but the tunnel/entrance looks really bland.

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If the new cliffs pass judgement, I will proceed on to the shitty Forerunner pathway I currently have.

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It's refreshing to see someone around here improving with every new bit of criticism, nice work! The cliffs do look good.

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qft
Still needs work, but you actually seem to be getting something out of the tutorials, which is good because to be honest, I don't know jack shit about modeling cliffs. Never done it before. keep up the good work.

Nice improvement! Most newbies around here stay noobs, don't learn squat, and burden the forum. Your the exception. Keep up the good work. :)

I take criticisms of my models to heart, always have, no matter how harsh.

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qft
Still needs work, but you actually seem to be getting something out of the tutorials, which is good because to be honest, I don't know jack shit about modeling cliffs. Never done it before. keep up the good work.

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Thank you.

I'll further the variation in my cliffs, possibly add another outcropping. To increase gameplay value, I'm also probably going to add in a cave as well.

I've been learning Forerunner architecture, but I want to see what you guys think of this. I'm not used to modeling Forerunner, so it probably looks horrible. Both sides ARE symmetrical (I used the symmetry modifier), but it doesn't appear that way in the render for some reason, the left-hand side appears to be bent when it isn't.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...ent_center.jpg
Should I scrap it and try again?

To be perfectly honest, it doesn't really look forerunner at all. I would suggest looking at some screenshots from Halo for inspiration. Use a few while modeling to give yourself a better idea.
I'm no master at it myself, but there are some people here who are obsessed with forerunner stuff. They should be able to give you some of the general guidelines of forerunner architecture.

I would really appreciate those guidelines, thank you.
Also:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-4.jpg
Water taken from a Halo 3 screenshot, made by Bungie studios.
The Pelican will serve as a turret for defense of the main hole, the secondary cave (off to the right) is just out of range of the turret.
It won't be flyable or anything that will kill gameplay, just a turret on a Pelican which will probably be on fire.

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I take criticisms of my models to heart, always have, no matter how harsh.

Thank you.

I'll further the variation in my cliffs, possibly add another outcropping. To increase gameplay value, I'm also probably going to add in a cave as well.

I've been learning Forerunner architecture, but I want to see what you guys think of this. I'm not used to modeling Forerunner, so it probably looks horrible. Both sides ARE symmetrical (I used the symmetry modifier), but it doesn't appear that way in the render for some reason, the left-hand side appears to be bent when it isn't.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...ent_center.jpg
Should I scrap it and try again?

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Throw that away right now. That doesn't look Forerunner the least little bit. That looks like something that belongs in Red Faction II. Have you even looked at Forerunner structures? They look nothing like that in the least. All you've done is warped a box and added extrusions and nothing more.

nice smashed box.

forerunner is all about picking the right angles. Usually I stick with 45s and 30s and 90s, but reall what you should do is pick a few main angles and use those same angles over and over again.
Forerunner typically puts extra angles into an otherwise straight line, ie

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and avoid acute angles on insets- typically inside corners should be chamfered.

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hope that helps.

Also avoid just using extrude. Play around more with editable poly.

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Also avoid just using extrude. Play around more with editable poly.

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this. I'm tired of seeing forerunner geometry that's just a box that has been repeatedly extruded and chamfered and extruded some more.

It's been deleted from the model, I'll redo it to get it up to par.

I'll try to see if I can dig up more tutorials for Forerunner modeling. I wasn't using any references at all, and it was obvious.
But what about the beach? How does that compare?

Animated 3d grass.

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I would really appreciate those guidelines, thank you.
Also:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...77/beach-4.jpg
Water taken from a Halo 3 screenshot, made by Bungie studios.
The Pelican will serve as a turret for defense of the main hole, the secondary cave (off to the right) is just out of range of the turret.
It won't be flyable or anything that will kill gameplay, just a turret on a Pelican which will probably be on fire.

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give them cliffs some z brush!

Nice animated grass :o

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Nice animated grass :o

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That's amazing :downs:

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Originally Posted by il Duce Primo

Animated 3d grass.

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As I said on HaloMaps, I can has? :o

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Originally Posted by il Duce Primo

Animated 3d grass.

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Pretty simple, but nicely done.

@ Animated Grass

Show that video to someone who's not interested in modding... or... someone who is using a less ancheint engine...

luls will ensue.

Nicely done though, would be a nice touch for maps, if subtly done.

I seem to remember seeing a tutorial once for making animated plants exactly like that. Hm. Looks decent tho.
I'm curious, is it scenery, or is it detail objects? (Can you even animate detail objects?)

nice work, primo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ea/Photo86.jpg

Bored on my lunch break... the top half is just gestural so... yea. it's fugly.

gestural?

Any good texture? Not accurate but is it any good?
Not finished all of it either, just comment on the finished part.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ll/Texture.jpg

Actually, it looks pretty good. Keep working on it thought. Your really aren't sowing much.

I personally like the way it looks, but I don't know much about texturing. Just wait around for Dane to give you some pointers. What I can say though, is that the lip at the end (the faces and the edge of the main semi-cylinder, as well as the edges contacting it) needs scratches and whatnot.

Its like my 2nd texture. I havnt really tryed before.

But I may as well learn.

too cloudy. doesn't look like metal. it looks more like black charcoal got smeared all over dark gray paper. learn material definition, please.

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gestural?

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as in... it's a seven second doodle... just threw something there for the general shape/proportions before going back through it an fully rendering it out.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

too cloudy. doesn't look like metal. it looks more like black charcoal got smeared all over dark gray paper. learn material definition, please.

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are you talking about Hunters skin or your own? *check sig