Sapien Expert Mode

**Masterz1337** · August 13th, 2007 08:51 PM

It has more options, lets you re-referance tags I believe. I don't have H2EK on this PC, so I can't check.

**Con** · August 13th, 2007 08:55 PM

normal mode should have been the locked down HEK, and expert mode the good ol' CE-like version.

**teh lag** · August 13th, 2007 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Conscars

normal mode should have been the locked down HEK, and expert mode the good ol' CE-like version.

We can always fantasize about what could (and should) have been...

**Limited** · August 13th, 2007 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Conscars

normal mode should have been the locked down HEK, and expert mode the good ol' CE-like version.

Too right, to be honest I dont see why it unlocks stuff since it doesnt really unlock THAT much. Like some one said I think it was put in before they locked the whole kit down.

Did bungie/hired gun mention any updates to the editing kit?

**FireScythe** · August 13th, 2007 09:04 PM

It's more likely that the values that are made changable by expert mode are values that either don't need to be changed, shouldn't be changed, or if changed to an incorrect value would cause problems later on.

In other words, you need to have "Expert" knowledge to know what each value does and what they should and shouldn't be.

**Con** · August 13th, 2007 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Limited

Did bungie/hired gun mention any updates to the editing kit?

Nobody official has mentioned anything about ANY updates yet. It makes me sad.

**jahrain** · August 13th, 2007 10:31 PM

The expert mode just unlocks certain attributes for tags you can edit in sapien just like in guerrilla. Usually its for properties you shouldn't be messing with.

**Kornman00** · August 14th, 2007 01:37 AM

Expert mode has been in guerilla (and sapien) since Bungie was dealing with it. Its nothing Pi put into it. Its really meant for a programmer to fix small things tool fucked up on, or from fucked up inputs made by a designer.

**et_cg** · August 14th, 2007 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Limited

Did bungie/hired gun mention any updates to the editing kit?

The "Map Editor" kit we have is unsupported by Microsoft, Pi, and Hired Gun. Expect no updates, unless they see fit. Which at the current rate of decay, I see no inclination for an update or any type of tag release.

As for the Sapien Expert mode, yes after toying around with it, I've noticed it's mainly values that are only made during import. Given that the designer/artist/whatever gives it a bad import value, instead of re-importing after changing, they have access to the debug.html, and Guerilla's expert mode which allows the change to happen in less time. (Depending on it's complexity)