Buyer's Remorse - An open letter to the devs of H2V

[Patrickssj6]

Anisoptric Filter?

Anyway of course I agree with this and especially with the "If It Ain't Broke..." part.

Patrickssj6
Content Developer
H2Vista.net

[Limited]

Firstly, I agree with you. This game could be improved alot by a few simple things. To me, the game hasnt lived up to its hype, maybe because they didnt give us full details, so we just assumed what it would have.

Now, what do you really want to achieve with this post jcap? Awareness that we dont like this game? Hopefully it will, but then? A change of the game? The problem is in my eyes microsoft, yes I bash them a bit, but at the end of the day, microsoft helps me and bill gates is one of the most impressive sales men in the world. But any game changes, just like halo 1, need to go through microsoft first, I'm pretty sure the game makers (I cant remember who it was, but the bum a knife or whatever his name is works for them) they'd probably agree to unlocked kit, but then that idea has to go through microsoft, and getting some thing past there as we know from previous problems takes along time and will probably not work.

[beele]

I totally agree with this.
I haven't given up hope YET.

beele
h2vista member
h2vista.net

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

add me if you dont mind?
i mean cmon! i really was hoping for CMT's mod to be moved onto halo 2 vista and play it with more features such as dualwielding and such
but nope! Microsoft had to take it all away

[dg]

That was extremely well written. I truly hope the developers, minus bum has knife, take it to heart.

[Zeph]

If Halo 3 PC doesn't have an editing kit, I will be the closest thing to depressed without actually being so

H3V, 2010: Believe?

Halo 3 would be bound to the same kind of limitations as H2V. Windows Live is just a total bitch for modding.

[UXB]

If Halo 3 PC doesn't have an editing kit, I will be the closest thing to depressed without actually being so

IF, and it is a big IF, Halo 3 is brought to PC I sincerely doubt that there will be an editing kit or an SDK as PC people like to think of it, because from Bungie's perspective there is one: They call it forge.

Bungie is an Xbox game company, a successful one, and software for consoles has a different user model than the mouse/keyboard PC users. I could be wrong but I suspect that their break from MS will make it logistically more difficult for them to have access to the PC game design teams to port their games.

[Rob Oplawar]

I agree with this wholeheartedly, and I have a thing or two to add:

I've been forced back to Halo CE for my mod, but due to the age of this engine, once my mod is done I'm going to move on. If H2V were fixed, I would gleefully jump onto that engine, but with no light yet visible at the end of the tunnel, it's looking like I'm going to be contributing to someone else's game, community, popularity, and ultimately profit.

My point being that this game is dying a quick but agonizing death, but if the developers were to address some of these issues in an automatic patch it could be saved, and people would, you know, buy it. It would be worth your while, H2V dev team, to fix this, because then in addition to possibly salvaging your reputation, you could salvage the user base and turn a profit.

Here, look at Halo CE. After many years it is still selling, because it has great tools for custom content. Custom content is the way games are going these days. Custom content is what people want. Custom content is what keeps a game like Halo CE going strong despite its increasingly obvious age.

As it is, I am abandoning Halo 2 Vista. Nothing would make me happier than an H2V patch to convince me to stick with it.
Or perhaps, like what was done for Halo for the PC, a free download of an unlocked editable version like Halo Custom Edition, complete with a good Editing Kit, that requires the key from your purchased version to run.
So, if this ever gets to the eyes of whoever would be in charge of the decision to save this potentially great game, please consider it, and if the answer is still no please at least tell us why, and if the answer to that is money, I'll understand. If that's the case, though, it really is a shame that you fucked up so much.



So, er, yeah, if this does become a petition, count me in.

-Rob Oplawar

[343guiltymc]

I remembered months before the game's release, someone said that " if you're PC can handle vista, it should have no problem with the H2V". Oh I was such a fucking fool, believing that statement.

[demonmaster3k]

yea, halo 2 for windows vista is a piece of shit in a jewelery box
i heard the complaints, now i'm turning away.... (at best stay with hce)
there are other games out there anyways (*cough* battlefield 2142, bad company (coming soon), crysis, quake 4, bioshock... the list goes on and off topic)

if bungie/hired gun does decide to change their judgement with a new patch release (probably not) i might reconsider... (just glad i didnt waste $50 when the original was even better)

...this thread's name reminds me of a level's title: No Remorse

[edit]
i doubt halo 3 will make an appearance in the next 2 years (halo wars, maybe cos ensemble's Age of Empires series is pc rts) and if it does, i hope MS at least has the DECENCY to learn from this mistake

also, if custom content inteferes with live, why not make the custom-content levels unranked (like what EA does along with many other producers)