see through building in sapien?

[cheezdue]

Hm making 2-sided walls seems complicated in many ways

[Idjiki]

Hm making 2-sided walls seems complicated in many ways

not really.... you already have some walls, just clone them, push the clone over a bit, use the attach button to make the new walls a part of your original wall (plane), then just connect them with new faces (polys)....

or just do the % thing and you will have a real basic building to run in and out of for boring's sake..

[cheezdue]

Good thing i put this thread up before this website goes down, very good advice. Thanks guys

[johnnyblaz20]

not really.... you already have some walls, just clone them, push the clone over a bit, use the attach button to make the new walls a part of your original wall (plane), then just connect them with new faces (polys)....

or just do the % thing and you will have a real basic building to run in and out of for boring's sake..

Didn't i say that? You need to watch some tutorials cheesey. Thats all the other advice i can give.

[cheezdue]

Yeah, sucks being a new person around an experienced community

[xBigDaddyx117]

That was so fucking stupid! who the fuck would shut down a site just for a joke? I REALLY hope it was atleast shut down to do matinace.

[johnnyblaz20]

You did not notice a differance? wow

[Idjiki]

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(laughing at BigDaddy...in a good way)

ya the walls aren't all that hard to do, I'm newer than you and i got it down... its all about just doin' it... all of this is real complicated at first... every damn last bit of it...

and then, it gets easier... a little

Here: Wall Pic <-- pic of steps below (just click on it to see it in IE...if its little then clik on it to zoom in...*lamers note)

create a plane with only 1 segment (i started mine at 1000x1000...it can be scaled down later to a size that fits masterchief better)
Convert to Editable Poly
Select Edge mode under Editable Poly
Select Insert Vertex
Insert verts where you will basically want edges to be...
Now select Create tool in Edge mode
Create the Edges between the new verts
Create more verts as needed
Create more edges as needed
With the Move tool select either the verts or the edges that you want to move around to shape your windows and doors
Once your windows and doors are all lined out and look nice (the one in the pic was done real fast...you should take some time here to get it all "on the same level") you can delete the faces that make up the window and door...essentially punching holes out
In Polygon mode, select the whole plane
Now, select the Move tool
Hold down the shift key
left click and drag on the plane (or the move tool qizmo on a specific axis<--best way)
This will copy the plane you just made
Select Clone To Object: (you can name it whatever you want, really doesn't matter)
Now use the Select by Name tool and select the new plane (Object01 in this case)
Select Polygon mode and use the Flip tool
Select the Object01 again and in Polygon mode use the Attach tool
You can left click on the first plane now or go to the Select By Name tool again and select the first plane (Plane01 in this case)
This just brings the two plains together so that you can work on them both
Now, in Polygon mode use the Create tool
This just shows you all of the verts and you can create new faces by connecting the dots essentially... i made one for the pic and left one side undone
Continue doing that between the walls, windows and doors till its all sealed up (unless you will be adding more walls.. in that case leave the places where new walls will be added)

What you do here depends on where you are going with it..
You can clone this whole wall now and put it in as another wall... rotate it around so that the corners meet up nicely
Then with Poly mode Attach tool attach the two walls
I use Vertex mode to move my corners to a 45 degree angle and then I use Target Weld to weld the verts together... you could use Edge mode too (Target Weld)
Now you have two walls... just keep going like that until you are all done

its all about manipulating your verts and edges, the clone tool, attaching and optimization... you should make it look nice (my example pic was done real quick and is kinda ugly)... let me know if you have any questions or what not.. its pretty easy actually

Hope that helps.. and I am interested if anyone has a better method or what not... I like to learn

[cheezdue]

hahahahhahahahhahahahaaahhahahaa
ha
ha
ho
ahh
k
(laughing at BigDaddy...in a good way)

ya the walls aren't all that hard to do, I'm newer than you and i got it down... its all about just doin' it... all of this is real complicated at first... every damn last bit of it...

and then, it gets easier... a little

Here: Wall Pic <-- pic of steps below (just click on it to see it in IE...if its little then clik on it to zoom in...*lamers note)

create a plane with only 1 segment (i started mine at 1000x1000...it can be scaled down later to a size that fits masterchief better)
Convert to Editable Poly
Select Edge mode under Editable Poly
Select Insert Vertex
Insert verts where you will basically want edges to be...
Now select Create tool in Edge mode
Create the Edges between the new verts
Create more verts as needed
Create more edges as needed
With the Move tool select either the verts or the edges that you want to move around to shape your windows and doors
Once your windows and doors are all lined out and look nice (the one in the pic was done real fast...you should take some time here to get it all "on the same level") you can delete the faces that make up the window and door...essentially punching holes out
In Polygon mode, select the whole plane
Now, select the Move tool
Hold down the shift key
left click and drag on the plane (or the move tool qizmo on a specific axis<--best way)
This will copy the plane you just made
Select Clone To Object: (you can name it whatever you want, really doesn't matter)
Now use the Select by Name tool and select the new plane (Object01 in this case)
Select Polygon mode and use the Flip tool
Select the Object01 again and in Polygon mode use the Attach tool
You can left click on the first plane now or go to the Select By Name tool again and select the first plane (Plane01 in this case)
This just brings the two plains together so that you can work on them both
Now, in Polygon mode use the Create tool
This just shows you all of the verts and you can create new faces by connecting the dots essentially... i made one for the pic and left one side undone
Continue doing that between the walls, windows and doors till its all sealed up (unless you will be adding more walls.. in that case leave the places where new walls will be added)

What you do here depends on where you are going with it..
You can clone this whole wall now and put it in as another wall... rotate it around so that the corners meet up nicely
Then with Poly mode Attach tool attach the two walls
I use Vertex mode to move my corners to a 45 degree angle and then I use Target Weld to weld the verts together... you could use Edge mode too (Target Weld)
Now you have two walls... just keep going like that until you are all done

its all about manipulating your verts and edges, the clone tool, attaching and optimization... you should make it look nice (my example pic was done real quick and is kinda ugly)... let me know if you have any questions or what not.. its pretty easy actually

Hope that helps.. and I am interested if anyone has a better method or what not... I like to learn

*ugh* so much knowledge stuffed in my hollow brain.

[johnnyblaz20]

Just work with this once through and it'll change how you look at building a structure. I'll admit it may be overboard for what you're trying to do but its a good thing.

http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tut...g-blocks/33115