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[343guiltymc]

The 4670 is not better than the 9800GT at all, but if you can't use a card that requires a PCIe power connector, the 4670 is as good as it gets...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814133279
That's a 9800 GT without a external power connector right?

[Varmint260]

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814133279
That's a 9800 GT without a external power connector right?

I daresay you might be right. It says nothing about external power connectors in the specifications, and I cannot see any power connectors from the pictures provided. I haven't seen a 9800 without them, but then I was a little taken aback that my 9500 didn't, so you can't go by me. If those pictures are accurate, though...

[343guiltymc]

I daresay you might be right. It says nothing about external power connectors in the specifications, and I cannot see any power connectors from the pictures provided. I haven't seen a 9800 without them, but then I was a little taken aback that my 9500 didn't, so you can't go by me. If those pictures are accurate, though...

Well before PNYwent with a reference 9800 GT with 6 pin power connector. But they changed the card to one without it, though they obvious forgot to change the specifications info like the decrease in core and shader clock. I guess what I'm asking is, is this card as good as a reference 9600 GT or worse than it? The 9600 GT is only slightly below the level of the stock 9800 GT right?

[Warsaw]

Well, this is a relatively new and interesting development...I guess that makes this the best card without a connector. Go for it. =D And yes, performance difference between the 9600GT and 9800GT is close to nothing.

[Sargent_Hawk]

I'm hoping for a computer upgrade, money is so fucking tight though, maximum is $150(note this is at christmas time when we have the $150 for the upgrade), I've done some searching but couldin't find much.

current specs:
GFX: Nvidia Geforce 4200 Ti. (old, but runs TF2 mid settings at 40 FPS, surprising actualy)

Processor: AMD 1.8 Ghz.

Ram: 1GB

Motherboard: I cannot remember, but it uses AGP 8X or so, no PCI-e slot, if anyone finds a good deal on a motherboard, processor, and GFX card that totals at $150 maximum please let me know.

I would give more info but I can't remember most my specs to save my life, and Steam crashes every time I try to check from there(also to lazy to open up my computer and actualy look).

E: If anyone has some old computer parts they arent using anymore give me a thought please.

[Warsaw]

Holy shit son...you've even got Rossmum and Heathen beat for ancient computer specs...

The best GPU you can get for the AGP 8x bus is either the HD 3850 or HD4650, not sure which is better off the top of my head though, since they are pretty much dead even on paper. 3850 has a slight advantage with its GDDR3 memory and 256-bit interface.

HD3850

HD4650

If I were you, I'd save up and get a new computer altogether. What is the exact name of your CPU, so I can figure out the socket (unless you have the socket name, then give me that).

[FluffyDucky™]

I'm hoping for a computer upgrade, money is so fucking tight though, maximum is $150(note this is at christmas time when we have the $150 for the upgrade), I've done some searching but couldin't find much.

current specs:
GFX: Nvidia Geforce 4200 Ti. (old, but runs TF2 mid settings at 40 FPS, surprising actualy)

Processor: AMD 1.8 Ghz.

Ram: 1GB

Motherboard: I cannot remember, but it uses AGP 8X or so, no PCI-e slot, if anyone finds a good deal on a motherboard, processor, and GFX card that totals at $150 maximum please let me know.

I would give more info but I can't remember most my specs to save my life, and Steam crashes every time I try to check from there(also to lazy to open up my computer and actualy look).

E: If anyone has some old computer parts they arent using anymore give me a thought please.

Wow, how does that even turn on????? I agree with War. Time to upgrade buddy.

[InnerGoat]

That CPU is too slow for any newer video cards so don't bother.

If you can, save a little more until you have $200. Otherwise...

With $150 164 on newegg,

cpu = 55
ram = 28
motherboard = 45
psu = 36
video = 55

[FluffyDucky™]

You're better off waiting till you can pocket some more money, unless you're in a hurry.

[Warsaw]

I agree. Not worth the money to upgrade UNLESS you have at least a Socket 939 and enough money to get an Athlon 64 X2 as well as some RAM and a video card, and at that point you would probably have enough money to buy at least an AM2- or LGA775-based system.