protection [ztpt]<zteam>

[=sw=warlord]

Also, if you had no problem, why dont you just give him the files instead of him having to hack his way in, which means any other maps that are protected now have a security hole.

Yeah i agree, but masters being responsible is like asking gaigher to speak perfect english without a single piece of punctuation missing.
i always thought team leaders were supposed to be the responsible one, the reliable member of a team.
And don't give me the bull crap about doing it just for fun.

E:

Not really. Just because the tags are out there does not mean your team approves of someone using them. You should condemn Gaigher's actions, rather than approve of them.

Well,in my opinion as team leader, That wouldn't be in the best interest of the team. If members have a problem with it, they can talk to me.

Wait...WHAT?

[ShadowSpartan]

THX Masterz1337

I hope that my maps give publicity for CMT and Z'team

Masterz does not speak for myself or Zteam. You do not have my permission for using anything related to Zteam (not like it will stop you from using it, because you are that type of person). Zteam does not need, nor do I even want the type of publicity that would come from you using them.

[leorimolo]

Masterz does not speak for myself or Zteam. You do not have my permission for using anything related to Zteam (not like it will stop you from using it, because you are that type of person). Zteam does not need, nor do I even want the type of publicity that would come from you using them.

lol. What are you going to do about it? Can't you guys honestly not care and just do shit for fun?

[mech]

Great map can I have a beta!!!

[Kornman00]

Uh, hate to burst your bubble but Gaigher is talking about the Zteam protection on the SPV2 public beta done by Shadowspartan.

Obviously your on some kind of e-rage vendetta against me, so I'll let you continue to make a fool of yourself. If I cared about reputation I wouldn't do or say half the things I do.

Uh, hate to burst your bubble but I and Our don't go together. Obviously a team member in CMT wants the tags (or at least their's) to be on lock down or there would be no protection, but you publicly let it be known that you don't care what these people do with your team's works. Let me take a step back: you don't care what these people do with CMT's works. Why do you have "Team Lead" as your title? You would fucking know better that as a "lead" your words speak for the "team" if you had real prior experience in such a position, professional or not.

Obviously you really don't care about reputation but go a head and keep doing what you do because you don't have any cohesion in team works or representation.

[Con]

lol. What are you going to do about it? Can't you guys honestly not care and just do shit for fun?

That's not the point. The point is if you want to use somebodies tags, you better have permission. If GAIGHER keeps using the zteam tags without permission, then he won't be getting any help from this community. We don't support people who totally disregard the courtesy of permission. You're right, zteam can't do anything about it now that he has the tags, but GAIGHER's just hurting himself.

[Masterz1337]

Its up to the creators, it does break the law, they are still stealing the content.

Masters, you of all people should be sticking up for your team, being a team leader you cannot be influenced by your own opinions, only whats best for the whole team.

Also, if you had no problem, why dont you just give him the files instead of him having to hack his way in, which means any other maps that are protected now have a security hole.

I believe what's in the best interest of the team, is to allow people who have the tags use them as long as they give us credit.

For your second question, I'll tell you on AIM, I can't really post that here on the forums.

[Masterz1337]

Uh, hate to burst your bubble but I and Our don't go together. Obviously a team member in CMT wants the tags (or at least their's) to be on lock down or there would be no protection, but you publicly let it be known that you don't care what these people do with your team's works. Let me take a step back: you don't care what these people do with CMT's works. Why do you have "Team Lead" as your title? You would fucking know better that as a "lead" your words speak for the "team" if you had real prior experience in such a position, professional or not.

Obviously you really don't care about reputation but go a head and keep doing what you do because you don't have any cohesion in team works or representation.

If I didn't have any understanding on how to run a team, CMT wouldn't be one of the few teams left standing. I do things my way, and they work well enough for me, and have led the team this far. We have our own way we manage things, and so far I've only seen people who are clueless about what goes on (or people booted from the team over their own actions) criticize the way I run things. Actually, Salimander would be the exception to that, but he has his own way about going about things.

There is a divide in CMT over if the maps should be protected or not, but it's my call to protect them, even though I'm not interested in having the maps protected.

Likewise, now that tags are out there, I feel it's the best interest for the team to allow people to use the tags as long as they give credit. While I wish people had respected the team and not let them out there, there's no point in making a deal out of it. They're out there, people are going to use them, so we might as well let them use them.

[Horns]

I would love for a community who can respect peoples wishes when they create content for the comunity, partly for them selves, but mostly for the community to enjoy...

But no, people have to take advantage and take tags. if they give credit or ask permision I don't really give two shits... but a lot of them don't, which si the reason is pisses me of so much because they get all of the credit for making the content if people do not realise whoes it really is...

Map makers should be able to use default HEK protection with the risk of people making unprotecters instead of wasting their time making new protects because of some disgusting scumbags.

Im going out now anyway, byebye

If everyone was respectful to honor everyone's wishes then mappers wouldn't have to protect their maps. People would be respectful enough to always ask no matter what, and if they say no then not to use the content. Unfortunately there are always going to be "Faggots' on the internet.

[p0lar_bear]

For the love of christ, not this shit again.

I really wish you people wouldn't get so worked up over this. YET AGAIN, I'll lay it out.

MORALLY, this is wrong. The maps are protected for varying reasons, the best two being that either the content is unifinished and not ready for a release, or because the map author doesn't want to share. In either case, the ideal community member should be respectful of this wish and ask the author if they can use the content beforehand, and to not circumvent encryptions and whatnot, as this is how copyrights work in the real world, and it's what we in the business call a "dick move" when someone betrays another's simple wishes to meet their own ends.

LEGALLY, all of you are wrong. None of us own shit. The minute we process source files in Tool or hit Save/Save As in Guerilla's file menu, the data generated belongs to Bungie. The map file also belongs to Bungie. If you can't deal with the reality that your content may be used without your permission (which is not yours to even give in the first place), I kindly suggest that you get the fuck out and go mod Source or Unreal- oh wait, they're open source to begin with, you'd cry even more about it. If anything, Bungie should be cracking down on all of us for reverse-engineering their data structures and engine, as it says right in the fucking EULA that we aren't supposed to do that.

In short, stop fucking crying about people ripping tags. I'm sick to death of this drama. Personally, I'd prefer it if people would do it the nice way, but I don't see a reason for people to get bitchy when people use "their" tags without permission.

THIS IS ARE TAGS