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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Sever View Post
    Harsh?

    No.

    Not in the slightest.
    I'm not even going to give you any critique until you come back with something worthy.
    That post made you sound like a shittier version of the old (mean) Snaf. Don't act like you're some hot shit. Go ahead and give crit, but don't start spewing your elitism.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Well any way 1617 is mah poly count if I'm not mistaken.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Sever View Post
    Not in the slightest. It's just a bunch of boxes with intrusions and a few angled edges. None of your 'buildings' even have an iota of a sense of purpose. Detailing can only go so far - for the construction to make sense, there must be function built into the foundation of the map. Right now all you have are a few boxes with some random-looking, 'broken'... catwalk thing. Rebuild the map from the structures up - don't even fucking touch the terrain, you suck at it right now (nothing wrong with that - I do as well) - and build them in a way that shows why they were built.
    I found it pretty harsh and out of character. While I agree with your points here, these should have been stated in your OP.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    You don't have to add 3d detail to everything guys. Alot of things you can use texture for. Even though the walls on his buildings don't have 3d detail doesn't mean he can't use window textures, door textures, etc. It's better to do that instead of modeling in a windows or door and adding texture to those later. If you are using the halo 2 bitmap source for this map then you will be fine. Just don't use a plain brick texture for those non detailed walls on your buildings.

    I like the model though, keep it up!
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Looks like a decent start. You have some good ideas.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Thanks Pali! preAlso that is pretty much what I would like would be HELP with doing the textures WHEN I get to that point of texturing, thank you for pointing that out for others AK49. But I couldn't ever have worded it as good as you did.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Always avoid the "crumpled paper" look on your terrain. It doesn't look like anything but bad modeling or glaring errors. If i were you, i'd model details of the terrain you want FIRST, then fill in the polies between them. trying to bend, twist and contort your mesh just won't cut it.

    The damage on the building is really not working out at all. It looks terrible. You need to take a look at pictures of buildings damaged by blasts, urban warfare, and lack of upkeep (abandoned) and the like. Same goes for those damaged rails...er...walkways?... idk. Figure out what you're trying to portray before you try to build it. Get references.

    Simply another case of pursuing without a clue. Once you get some knowledge about anything you're trying to make you should hopefully improve.


    E: if you want to learn game modeling, get the fuck out of halo and go to cryengine2 or ue3. If you want to learn to model, completely ignore halo.

    if you want to just make shit for fun, low res, low effort, stick with halo.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR View Post
    if you want to learn game modeling, get the fuck out of halo and go to cryengine2 or ue3. If you want to learn to model, completely ignore halo.
    I want to comment on these before you get the wrong idea. While Halo is certainly not representative of current-gen game modeling, learning to model for Halo is an easy way to break bad modeling habits because of its unforgiving engine. If you want to learn to model, work with Halo, and only after you've learned basic modeling practices should you move on.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    You know what would be a cool 3rd party tool in something like 3ds max (or something calculated in the in-game editor)? A damage simulator. So you can pick an effect from your game's assert library and choose the damage path, run it and then have the physics backend (try and) determine the after math in terms of geometry (which can then be baked in). Then the engine could also store the end state of the damage so the designer doesn't have to go in a add details for the damage (burnt ground decals and such).

    Or just have an engine with destructable world geometry. However, that is no easy task.
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    Re: [WIP] Mombasa Bay

    Like Snaf said, model the structures and everything first then your ground. The general shapes are too blocky.

    Make them more interesting, take a look at the level on Halo 3 where you destroy the AA Wraith and the Scarab on that cliff, there it a boat on there as well.

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